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Objectivism is Godot, who never arrives.

Whatever goes over his head is considered the ramblings of a madman who convinced him about Abraham's one-god and then of Marx - one promising him paradise the other utopia....which never materialized, no mater how long he waited. 
The incomprehensible - which is god, i.e., Godot - is that which disappointed him by failing to materialize, so now whatever is incomprehensible to him is one and the same - objectivism - the divine object of his youthful expectations.
Wise man and Madman are one and the same...spouting incomprehensible gibberish.
Philosopher and Priest are one and the same for him, always speaking never telling him what to do to achieve enlightenment to find his way to god, i.e., the absolute - certainty, completion, omniscience, omnipotence, finality...peace.

Death.
The abyss.

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The tree is Godot. 
There is no God....there is nature, symbolized by the tree.
The "clowns" are waiting for what was always there.
Godot is not a man, a being...there is only the tree.

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The leaves that sprout from it, represent the changing continuity of the world. I.e., nature changes, but Man stays the same, stunted. But of course, he also changes, which is why he suffers, and why one of them 'perceives' the flux, he catches on to things in his environment that are happening, senses that they might mean something, or are connected to something in himself, but its more comfortable not to exert any effort to work it out, better to just be a moron and leave it to chance. His changing is diverted from the external into himself, where is can be remade into an immutable substance, that can conveniently never be understood. The clowns are stuck in a loop, like the one on ILP is.
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Truth, being a function of nature, is contingent on any conduit where it can reveal itself. So, even the most degraded minds can communicate truth as it relates to a part of the world which resulted in what they are, and so from their inferiority, we learn what is superior, from ugliness, we appreciate beauty, etc. Let nature contrast what we must see.
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There's a stubbornness there to rival that of a despondent ass that has been overburdened by its master and his cane.
A refusal to go on, knowing that the same brutal trip will be repeated the next day and the day after.
A desire to collapse right there, not to 'make a stand' but a 'sit down and out.'
Sisyphus reaching his wits end.

Vain, vain, all is in vain.

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Unable to differentiate right from wrong, sensible from nonsensible, the clown settles for subjectivity to conceal the loss of trust in his own judgment.
All is nonsense, the clown tells himself, unable to understand, unable to distinguish, unable to discriminate.

If all cannot be one then all most certainly can be none.

The Power of Nil, seduces the rabble....the slaves in the catacombs, the workers before the machinery....the dejected mule before its Sisyphean toils.
All is nonsense they comfort themselves. All is nil and void.
They need not toil any longer, they can settle down and wait...for the end, which is the final nil.

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There is flutter of anger, of fury in him, directed at the messenger, the boy, giving him the 'bad news' yet again that no salvation will be had. The bitterness, the rage to want to do something for himself stirs, but his cowardice and weakness dominates him and, like an old domesticated dog, after giving a defiant bark, he slumps back down again, defeated, resigned.
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Ego...the lucid part of self, defensively redirects the unconscious self's need for guidance.
Having lost trust in itself - self respect - the unconscious seeks aid in others, but the ego cannot bear to grovel so it creates antagonistic circumstances from which it then attempts to disassociate from.
In this way, it hopes, it will receive insight and help without having to beg for it.

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My son does something similar when he wants me to speak and share my opinions, because I do not speak much, being Spartan and all. 
He antagonizes me so that I can be made angry and then verbose...as I was when I wrote those long essays back in the day.
Without passion there is no honesty - we know someone when we fight him, and it is in pathos where the true self emerges, before it returns to tis concealment. 

Private (personae) and public character of the mind/body.
The nervous system must be agitated to reveal the synthesis fully and completely.
Eros and Thymos - affirmation of life and affirmation of death.

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Perhaps the most undying contribution of the worshipper of nil is his inability to offer alternatives to whatever is presented to him. He considers it all an affront, an intrusion, forcing him to accept, when all he can to is reject for no reason at all, other than nothing is ever sufficient - nothing is ever perfect, complete, total....complete. 
The very source of his error becomes the very source of his stubbornness. 
He can offer no better explanations, definitions, theories, only his rejection, his nullification, because nothing can ever measure up to the absolute oneness he was once enamoured with and subsequently gravely disappointed by.
If nothing can be perfect, then nothing is perfect.
He defends nothingness's perfection - its completeness, emptiness no fullness can ever match.
The one-god of Abraham is debunked, let us worship its absence, total, absolute absence, its nil. 

There is nothing to offer....all is nothing.
The somethingness of nothingness - the absent absolute is absolutely absent.

The desperate degenerate offers nothing but negative critique. It has nothing other than nothing to offer, drawing you into its state its final retribution against an existence that proved to be disappointing, a nothing.
Like Socrates it wants to destroy the minds of the youth, though he is convinced he is liberating them from certainty, so that they will not grow to be tyrants...
A gadfly...sacrificing himself by drinking the final cup, despite being able to be free.
A postmodern Socrates as the harbinger, a prophet, of a coming Messiah, offering salvation to the masses.
All for one; one for all!!!

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And what will this Messiah be?
Becket offers us "Lucky" - a slave, a chosen to suffer, spewing gibberish, in word-associating nonsense.
He is Godot's prophet....but the two "clowns" don't know it; he is the saviour, wearing the noose of his masters - the noose he will be hanged with; the noose they both seek to hang themselves from the tree. 
He is the Messiah made flesh, presented as a lowly decrepit character. Humble. Humiliated.

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"Lucky" - irony, cynicism - chance....chosen...
He is the Messiah of the god of nil.
Meaningless words for a meaningless existence.

The two clowns are not yet ready for his message. They are waiting for Godot, death, god...while nature is present, withering and fruitless.....

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What's important to keep in mind about a desperate degenerate is that it seeks pity. It is frail, and desperate for validation. It cannot give itself anything meaningful and so it must get all it needs from others. It is desperate to be taken seriously, with deference, and merit. But, because its soul is degenerate and sickly, it cannot relegate itself to ask for help or even camaraderie. Its self-hatred lashes out in envy. It cannot help itself. Its ego is too needy and lacks any independence; it hates that it is weak and so it turns the one it wants sympathy from, into an enemy. Like a rabid dog, you feel pity for the disease that is ravaging it, but you know you cannot allow it to get near you because its sad and desperate plea for pity will instantly transform into teeth gnashing at you.


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.the lucid part of self, defensively redirects the unconscious self's need for guidance.
Having lost trust in itself - self respect - the unconscious seeks aid in others, but the ego cannot bear to grovel so it creates antagonistic circumstances from which it then attempts to disassociate from.
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Recovering Abrahamics are so disturbed by the "death of god" - the totalitarian, authoritarian absolute one-god - not the concept of "god", that they must replace the absoluteness, which si lost, with another, its opposite, its negation.
The "one" with the "nil" or "none".
Binary. 
Nihilism must remain within the binary - either/or.
If not complete, certain, whole, oneness, i.e., singularity, then complete, whole, nothingness, i.e., void, abyss.
If not absolute order then absolute chaos.

If an external will did not create it all then man's will must be the creator of all.
Words referring to abstractions must be maintained abstract, referring to ideas in the mind where divinity exists unsoiled, perfect, complete and whole.
They cannot relinquish power to what is indifferent and unconscious, i.e., nature, including both order and chaos.
They must have access to power. Authority must be made into something that can be coerced, bribed, or seduced; it must remain intentional, willful, rational.

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Fear/Anxiety is, of course, what overcomes skepticism and reasoning.
Where there is existential anxiety charlatans sell their products on the marketplace - those with the most "positive" message sell the most product, gain the most loyal following. 
Their effect is healing, joyous, comforting, calming; all self-deceptinos are positive in that they reinforce survival; survival at all costs.
Reality, and awareness of it, is a secondary concern. What matters is survival.
Self-Deceit is a proven survival strategy.
The mind can tolerate so much of reality before it is overwhelmed,. needing a comforting lie which remain plausible, so as to not require more self-deciet
A fine balance between degree of deceit (ideology) and degree of truth (reality).
Truth is like water....too little and you die....too much and you drown.

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Desperate Degenerates understand or misunderstand others within their absolutist either/or world view - ideology contra reality.
Then, when the other contradicts their misunderstanding of them they do not question their own understanding of them but his understanding of the world. 
They are never at fault....all nihilists fall into this self protective trap.
Whatever they perceive that challenges their established world views, their understanding, are at fault - they are envious or hateful or self-cotnradicting....it is never their own understanding which is at fault.
They are always victims of someone jealousy or irrational hatred or error in judgement - if not sinners, then capitalists and if not capitalists then objectivists... 

Look at where this leads...
In the US, after decades of being brainwashed - via Hollywood and media - that race and sex are social constructs they are burning down their country, because inequality cannot be explained in any other way other than systemically...so the system must be racist. their own presumptions are never in doubt.
So, now the system must intervene to socially engineer parity under the erroneous presumption that all inequality is systemic...
Now it has to become racist, giving special privileges to a segment of the population so as to create this ideological state of equality and equity of outcomes. 
To doubt that this is based on a mistake, and that races and sexes are not social constructs but genetic...would require a overturning of decades of comforting convictions. 
Doubting these core beliefs would be tantamount to sacrilege in a world dominated by the Church...where they burned those who doubted the existence of their one-god. 
They are burning down their cities and murdering whites...instead. 
All because they cannot and will not doubt their own convictions.

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Debaters of "bad faith"....
Who could have predicted?

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Riiight...
How do we know this racist isn't just talking pie in the sky gibberish and actually speaks Japanese or Swahili....can't tell what he is speaking because appearances are superficial. Sounds like yak yak to me...
Ahhh....here's a idea that just popped into my brain subjectively....what if we can gauge the validity of what we perceive from the cosnequences...in this case that of the responder?
What if this can also be applied in all contexts and in all circumstances?

Naaaah....it's all subjective. Generalities are for objectivists, like Ayn Rand.

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The most self-hating spiteful minds will proclaim to have a "monopoly" on suffering and that they suffer more than others, using it as a leverage point for superiority. Because if they cannot be strong and resilient, then they will turn thier inferiority into a power complex. Since pain is something more prevalent among people, it can be used as a total negation, a total defense against any detraction or animosity. Who can say something bad against the victim? The one who suffers so terribly? So, who is to say thier vulgar, hateful and repulsive behavior isn't also part of thier suffering? We musn't deride those who suffer, because we all suffer. Jesus laid the groundwork for generations of superior victims and degenerates to stake thier claims to power.
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Victim hierarchy, implying that he who endured the most suffering overcame and was made stronger by it.
In Abrahamism those who suffer the most, because god willed it, deserve salvation if, and only if, they acknowledge his will in their endurance.
In Judaism the meme's survival is what counts, so whatever they, as individuals or a people, endure it is for the perpetuation of the meme, i.e., dogma, ideology, which is defined as Divine.
This is their "burden," often represented as a messianic mission - divine duty.
In secular forms god's will is replaced by universal determinism - fate; it is written; it has been determined; it is in the stars....etc.
Universe is a kind of cosmic mind and we are participating in its neurological processes - stars and galaxies like neural clusters.
If you can read the stars you read god's will, or what has been determined, so astrology deals in self-fulfilling prophesies - power of suggestion.

Man subconsciously, and consciously, wills what he desires - conviction is like a placebo.
The "victim" has to believe that it is not he or she but an external agency - an external will, or universal order - or some such - preserving their "innocence" as a signal of their worthiness - virtue signaling.

The primordial sin is not an Abrahamic invention.
Ancient-Greeks had something like it only theirs was about the guilt of consuming other life
- ouroboros; pagan's honour their kill to make amends.
Abrahamics added the narrative with the tree and snake...all metaphors.

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An interesting aspect of victim psychology...

When it suits them, race is a social construct; when it doers not, race is real.
This follows the Jewish rule. When it suits them, they are a tribe, a people, genetically distinct, when it doesn't they are a religion, part of the Abrahamic triad.

What makes the difference?
Power.
When they feel powerless, they deny who and what they are, when they feel powerful they admit who and what they are.
Appearances do not matter if they are the victims, but when being a victim is an advantage then, suddenly, race does mater.

This is what they call "subjectivity".
When they feel insecure about a reality they are extremely skeptical, unable to form a judgment, unconvinced by the evidence, but then when weakness becomes a strength they suddenly become convinced, certain beyond doubt...
Power built on the pretence of powerlessness. Hebrew paradox. They made the acquisition of power by playing the role of the powerless victim into a artform.
This is what the Frankfurt school taught...and what we are living through with critical race theory and cancel culture.
Deny all biological identifiers that are unflattering or inhibit power, but then weaponize some biological identifiers to play the victim card so as to attain power an d victimize those that challenge you, through pretending to be powerless victims.
Moral card.
This is Abrahamism 101...the mosaic laws established this possibility of using ethics to manipulable and control.
A very feminine methodology.
Guilt, shaming, accusing, pretending to be threatened to rally support from collectives etc.

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The "rights of paedophiles" will be protected.
It is, after all, ageism.
Maturity is subjective.
Denying children the "determined" freedom to enjoy sex goes against what has been determined by a "just and benevolent" universe.

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I don’t like Jordan Peterson, but I agree with him about the left’s obsession with power. I think the main motive of these degenerates is to assert themselves as part of an emerging power structure, and I don’t think they give much thought to its ideologies other than having a mere cursory knowledge of them just for inclusiveness. They are too braindead and primitive to even think about what they are doing, drug-addled, just animals and minions for the postmodern liberal elites. They search for any opportunity to release their self-hating resentment against the world, while mindlessly doing the state’s bidding to secure for themselves a place in its future. The ones who control and use these animals, will be the ones who will institute the culture of fucking children, they cant wait to legalize it; this is an ongoing destabilization process and these freaks are being used to get the job done before they will be cast aside.
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Even retards can teach us...even out enemies....even those we dislike can reveal...

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Criminalizing reality while promoting the next sexual dysfunction to be "liberated from paternalistic norms," i.e. paedophilia.
After homosexuality, and transsexuality, paedophiles will be the next "minority, victim group" to exit the closet, to proudly celebrate their diversity.
I predicted this would begin shortly after penning my Feminization of Man thesis...in the late nineties.
Any resistance will be silenced and eventually censored as ageism or paedophilophobia...

But do not fret...this will never finalize because the downward spiral will have progressed so far down degeneracy that an explosive reaction will stop it, and reverse the tide, fearing that paraphilia and fetishism - a symptom of degeneracy and desperation - will expose the people who advocated them to external forces that don't give a shit about their enlightened wokeness.
The trend is already under way.
Degeneracy always accompanied civilizational collapse, as did the parasites and vermin that emerge and dominate when death and dying is near.
Cults of death and worship of the nil, is prevalent in a world detached form reality, but it reaches an apex of absurdity when the end approaches.

Underlying the worship of oneness - positivity - is a foundation of nihilism - negativity.
See Abrahamism, and Marxism.
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This is how the normalization of bestiality will proceed.

An example of con-artists feeding on superstitions and idiocy.
See astrology.

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All paraphilia will be normalized....until the final collapse.
(((Capital))) is internationalist....it knows no ethnos, no race, no sex, no homeland, no patriotism, except toward its messiah....money.



Depravity will reach a level where it will soften the foundations of the social structure....like termites eating away at a home's foundations.
At some point the entire edifice collapses.

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