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Identification with the Puer/Puella Archetype
One of Jung’s major contributions to our understanding of the human psyche was his discovery of the collective or archetypal unconscious (CW 9.1: 3–72).
Organs of the pre-rational psyche, archetypes are impersonal; each can manifest both a positive and a negative aspect. They adhere to the structure of the human psyche itself and can manifest in relation to inner or psychic life. Like all archetypes, the puer/puella archetype has bipolar aspects, both positive and negative. It is my contention that, collectively, many individuals in the United States, including President George W. Bush and some of his administration, became possibly unconsciously identified with the activated archetype of the puer/puella, which caused them collectively to remain too long in adolescent psychology and contributed to a state of what I am calling “protracted adolescence.”
According to Marie-Louise von Franz, it would seem that Ovid used the term puer aeternus in his Metamorphoses (4.18–20), where it is applied to the child-god in the Eleusinian mysteries. In the positive associations, he is “Protracted Adolescence” the god of divine youth, a god of life, death, and resurrection, corresponding to such oriental gods as Tammuz, Attis, and Adonis; however, in the negative aspect,
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In general, the man who is identified with the archetype of the puer aeternus remains too long in adolescent psychology; that is, all those characteristics that are normal in a youth of seventeen or eighteen are continued into later life, coupled in most cases with too great a dependence on the mother. . . .
In some cases, there is a kind of asocial individualism: being something special, one has no need to adapt, for that would be impossible for such a hidden genius, and so on. In addition, an arrogant attitude arises toward
other people, due to both an inferiority complex and false feelings of superiority. . . . Accompanying this neurosis is often, to a smaller or greater extent, a savior or Messiah complex, with the secret thought that one day one will
be able to save the world; that the last word in philosophy, or religion, or politics, or art, or something else, will be found.
(von Franz 1–2)
I would suggest that there is an apparent general belief held by many in the United States that they are “something special”—if not the most special and privileged beings on the planet. If not a conscious belief within individuals in America, this attitude at least manifests itself in a collective energy that is perceived by the global community as a general arrogance toward the rest of the world. Accompanying this is a sort of Messianic zeal. Thus, perhaps not surprisingly, one of the stated goals of the war in Iraq was to “bring democracy to the
Middle East” (Basham and Preble)—that is, to save the Iraqis from their own fate. In reality, this endeavor has turned into one of the bloodiest catastrophes in recent history, with many thousands of Iraqi civilians slaughtered and more than four thousand American and other troops already dead, with many more maimed and psychologically scarred for life. And there appears to be no end of this carnage in sight.
Americanism promotes and validates narcissistic tendencies.
The cult of personality, directed towards some charismatic guru, is turned inward, the individual worshipping himself as something worthy of emulation.
Messianism is narcissism of a grander scale.
An entire culture can come to believe it is worthy of being emulated or even worshipped - see Judaism - and that it is the "light upon the world" and other such self-aggrandizing crap.
Americanism, having been the product of Abrahamic narcissism, concealed in pseudo-humility, exemplifies the gene to meme hypothesis...an entire population suffering the consequences of institutionalized narcissisms, named American "individualism."

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Gosling John wrote:
Such is the danger when impersonal archetypal energies (in this case, that of the negative aspects of the puer/puella) exert a hostile takeover of the ego of an individual or of the psyches of the collective. Alternatively, the same peril exists when the ego identifies with the potentially dangerous impersonal archetypal energy, when a mere mortal becomes the god. Jung points out that
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[t]he more clearly the archetype is constellated, the more powerful will be its fascination, and the resultant psychological statements will formulate it accordingly as something “daemonic” or “divine.” . . . Such statements indicate possession by an archetype.
(CW 11: 151)
Americanisms Messianic dualities, represented by their binary party system.
Americans think in terms of good versus evil.
Americans including all those around the world that have been Americanised after decades of US indoctrinations via Hollywood and US controlled Media - primarily within its dominion.

this is most evident in their thinking of WWII tropes and how certain terms are permanently associated with 'evil', exhibiting no nuanced thinking.
Thinking entirely emotionally triggered.

I suspect American disillusionment with their 'freedoms' displays in a rejection of free-will, is a psychological reaction to their institutionalized thinking. they, intuitively sense that their judgments are based on propaganda, an external agency, which they might call god, or leave it as a vague reference to some external will.

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The BBC reports that, when George W. Bush met with Abu Mazen, Palestinian prime minister, and Nabil Shaath, his foreign minister, in June 2003, the latter allegedly reports that President Bush said to all of them:
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I’m driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, ‘George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan.’ And I did, and then God would tell me, ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq . . . ’ And I did. And now, again, I feel God’s words coming to me, ‘Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East.’ And by God I’m gonna do it.”
(BBC)
These statements may indicate that some of Bush’s decisions were not only “divinely inspired” but perceived as a direct communication from God, illustrating his possible “possession” by activated archetypal energy (as described
by Jung in the above quotation) that has had signifi cantly tragic results in both Afghanistan and Iraq—at least for those who have been massacred or maimed and for those whose lives have been irrevocably devastated by these wars.
Jung notes, “In the collective unconscious of the individual, history prepares itself” (CW 18: 163). Furthermore, when one or more archetypes are activated in a number of individuals and begin to manifest by coming to the surface, “we are in the midst of history” says Jung:
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The powerful factor, the factor which changes our whole life, which changes the surface of our known world, which makes history, is collective psychology, and collective psychology moves according to laws entirely different from those of our consciousness. The archetypes are the great decisive forces, they bring about the real events, and not our personal reasoning and practical intellect.
(CW 18: 163)

[Protracted Adolescenc].

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He's predicting America's second Civil War, next year.
I've approximated a Civil War # 2 between 2050 and 2080, around 200 years after the First Civil War that unified the States and made the US an empire.
The Second Civil War will be one of fragmentation.
The US is in the starting stages of a civil war, or an internal struggle of America's elites....but it has not yet become 'hot', but it has casualties already - I include Kennedy as one casualty and Epstein as another.
The attempted assassination of Trump is but the latest salvo.....as the passions begin to heat up.
Like the first time this one will also use race as a pretext.
The first, presumably to free Blacks, and the second to presumably replace whites.
The real reason will be economics, and how to manage America's decline from Hyperpower to regional power, and how to deal with its accumulating debts.

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Turning away from nihilism...
"America is not only an idea..."

It is its tangible, physical, people. It is a nation.....though not an ethnicity.
This is basically the shift towards this [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
Also represented by a shift away from fiat money and a return to a gold standard...money representing tangible goods, not an abstraction.

A shift contrary to the movement towards the Transexual agenda.....the logic that makes the tangible a intangible idea, unrestricted by observable phenomena.
Language returned to its original function as mediating connector between the noumena, and phenomena - the abstractions in the mind and the patterns outside the mind.
Sex/Gender, race/ethnicity are not ideological cosntructs....they are biological, physical....they are observable, experienced, perceived phenomena.

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DEI hires....is Americanism.
Secret Service director a female.......
These are not irrelevant to the failures occurring as the Empire declines.

the same ideology that believes populations are replaceable, so if you lower European percentages and replace them with other races, other ethnicities, you will experience no effect....because races are socially cosntructed....you see?
And so is gender....so if you hire females to protect the President, and you place a woman in change, no negative effect.....

But reality don't give a shit about your ideological beliefs.
Nature is indifferent to your humanitarianism and your postmodern convictions declaring sex and race social constructs.



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At this point it isn't certain that Trump will not get involved in another war against Israel's enemies - Iran.
He's not the same man he was during his first term.

They've been grooming him for a long time, to enact a shift in US foreign policy...away from Europe, against Russia, and towards the real enemy, to the east.
Neo-cons and the entire Liberal apparatus are Russia obsessed, due to how butthurt they are about what happened to their ancestors during Stalin's time and later during Putin's takeover, preventing them from realizing their globalizing plans.
This faction does not carry that emotional baggage.....maybe their ancestry is not rooted in Eastern Europe, and this is a major factor in what is going on.
These offspring of (((eastern European))) origins - who are not truly European - are all decedents of migrants that entered the US during the early twentieth century - setting up shop there - gradually taking over America through its media and entertainment industries.

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Liberalism and postmodernism will be America's downfall.
If gender and race are truly social constructs, then this would not be an issue.
Mass migrations from places other than Europe, would not be a threat, but invigorating.

If being a female is cosmetic, physical and has no mental, psychological, implications, then none of this matters.
Whether you hire a woman or a man, will not matter much, because they are interchangeable....born with the exact same range of potentials.
But if this is a lie....then the US is in deep trouble.

If the Secret Service is failing, what about the US military?
For decades they've been enacting their liberal policies.....palcing women in positions of authority....
Will they manage against forces that never drank their cool aid?

How did Rome fall?
Before the end "barbarians" had taken over, and the original Italics became a minority in the very empire they created.

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Charlatan salesmanship...sell to others what you will never buy for your own.
Sell to undermine....
Practice the opposite of what you preach.

Open borders, Transexual rights, identity politics, undermining pateranlism....were all supposed to degrade resistance to their internationalist agenda - their globalization plans.
They tried with Marxism.....and failed.
Their offspring are now obsessed with avenging this failure.
They tried with Yeltsin, and then he promoted Putin and ended it......and they want vengeance.

All this sexual degeneracy was supposed to undermine all resistance to their plans.
Cultivating vices in the enemy, while promoting virtues among your own.
Promote anti-paternalism, anti-family values in your enemies, but practice the reverse - the most stringent paternalism.
Promote open borders in your enemies, but practice apartheid in your own territory.

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A small segment on America's elites realized that when you open the borders of your host nation, your citadel of globalization, you let in the byproducts of your own parasitical disease....Islam.
A very virulent strain of your own superstitious zealotry.

You let in populations that have not been sufficiently groomed by Hollywood and American Media, into docile automatons.
This is a problem.

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Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
“This is simply a continuation of the logic of feminism through individuation. Just as a feminism liberated women from the slavery-like institution of marriage, represented by the tradition patriarchal male head of the family, liberation from the tyranny of the child is the next to follow. Just as liberation from patriarchy required the ability to see through romanticizations of the oppressions of the traditional family, liberation from romanticization of self-sacrifice to an utterly egoistic infant and child follows logically. The child is final tyrant to be overthrown before individuals can truly be free as individuals.
If Westerners lived up to the claims of civilization and tamed their instincts and emotions enough to act upon a rational, consistent individualism, and not discriminate on the basis of kinship relations, nepotism, or sentimentalism, then what does the child become? The child becomes an ‘individual’; simply another individual.
Childbearing and raising children by either sex is a barbaric legacy of the old patriarchal order in the sense that instinct and emotion remains fundamentally uncivilized in that reason has not been fully applied to life. For what rational reason would one have children? The means of childbearing and child raising have been civilized, but what of this end? The instinctive desire to have children is the logic of the selfish gene, not the logic of the selfish individual or rational individual self-preservation.
If an individual is truly free to choose his or her way of life, why would one volunteer for a life of servitude to a child-tyrant? If all individuals are equal, then why opt for this manifest inequality? For those who opt for full freedom and equality, the option to have kids is neither superior nor inferior to options like surfing or mountain climbing.
Who is to say that childbearing is more important than expanding your shoe collection? Feel something missing? Get a dog or a cat. Infertility may bring new life, at least, to the pet industry. If the liberal egalitarian project succeeded in producing a truly individualistic rationalism, no one would have children. The progress of universal individualism would ultimately lead to the end of the biological human race. In this way, the death spiral logic of individualism nicely parallels the death spiral logic of egalitarianism.

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Within Americanism's political landscape, if you are a right-winger conservative you must be pro-Zionism and anti-LGBTQ+....and if you are a lefty liberal you must be anmti-Zionism, and pro-LGBTQ+.
Either way you must support what undermined the world's cultural traditions, reducing resistance to Americanism.

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One of the signs of this either/or absolutism is this self-contradicting compartmentalization.
"Newspeak," Orwell called it.
The ability to simultaneously hold two contrary positions, without suffering any conscious manifestations of this internal turmoil.

They do come out in other ways, such as sexual fetishes, dysfunctions, dreams, neurosis etc.
External manifestations of an internal turmoil, exposing an absence of cohesion.

Entire populations can suffer from it.....especially populations adopting nihilism to find relief form existence.
just look at the inconsistencies in America's policies....
Sometimes it's okay to kill women and children, or bomb hospitals, and sometimes it is not.....soemtiems it is abhorrent.
"Rules Based World Order," means this....the US's schizophrenia will determine when something is acceptable and when it is unacceptable.

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The aforementioned inconsistencies - mind-body dissonance - is part of nihilism.....if one properly understands what nihilism means, and why it developed.

It is my view that what we call nihilism refers to selectively applying a defensive linguistic standard in order to protect our lucid self - ego let's call it - from its exposure to third-person awareness - or objectivity.
I will repeat, in brief my positions, but they require further explanations.
Jaynes (Bicameral Mind) went into the idea of how the gradual emergence of self-awareness, and the inner voice this manifests (internal dialogue), was experienced by man as a spiritual awakening.
His conscience became the voice of divinity; when he deliberated and debated himself, he believed he was in dialogue with spirits or gods.
Well, something similar occurred as man developed the third-person perspective - disconnection from his own ego, perceiving himself relative to other, from a seemingly divine perspective.
A kind of 'out of body' experience.
Of course, nothing like that occurred, but it was all internal - compartmentalisation.
A part of man's man developed the ability to detach and perceive itself as if it were something or someone other than itself- completely detached, Willess, and therefore more objective.
This could not be a permanent state so when it returns to its normal, selfish state of mind, egotism, it recalls this as a painful, disturbing, experience because it recalls its evaluations of itself, relative to an-other, and not all of these evaluations are positive.
In fact, its ephemeral detachment would make them harsh and critical, exposing it to another source of insecurity and anxiety.

To deal with this the ego invented a language-based defensiveness that entailed compartmentalisations that did not require reasoning nor evidence, and could use multiple standards according to the circumstances, with no justifications required.
The magical power of words/symbols could intoxicate the ego so that it could self-deceive, or self-hypnotize, or self-medicate.
There are positive benefits of this mind-trick, for conviction multiplies the effect of an individual's psychosomatic energies.
But there are also negative repercussions, such as a self-induced schizophrenia, where inconsistencies can be brushed away using linguistic magical means, and worldviews could be maintained with no evidence, even if they contradict experienced reality...such as the one-god.
All believers carry this one-god in their head.....a shared compartmentalization connecting them with other believers.
The one-god refers to a part of the mind that can hold this vague concept of a singularity - described in any way imaginable, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, immortal etc.....describing an ideal that cannot exist outside their collective minds.
Collectivized with this shared ideal.
Their one-god is their collective.
The singularity refers to that colelctive.....made up of multiple believers.
The perfect ideal made-up of imperfect beings.
Omnipresent because it is there whenever two or more of them 'gather in its name.'

The ideal is of a singularity....contradicting existential multiplicities.
This 'beyond' or 'above' simply refers to that part of the mind, where this vague concept resides.
In the meantime, these same individuals can go about their daily business with little discomfort....they can return to being rational, skeptical, empirical, whilst simultaneously maintaining this unempirical, irrational, concept in their mind.
The trouble they may experience they've integrated into their belief system - sinfulness.
So, two self-cotnradicting worldviews coexisting in the same brain, without minimal overt effects.....
But there are effects.
A divided, or compartmentalized, consciousness, will experience the effects, even if the culprit is pushed down to the subconscious, and all effects are integrated into its belief systems.....into its nihilistic paradigm.

This outsourcing of consciousness is one such method of maintaining self-cohesion, despite internal fissures.
Nihilism is the philosophical method of using semiotics to deal with this mind-body dissonance, when a person must use a ideology/dogma to comfort itself, or help it cope with a reality that contradicts this dogma and ideology, exposing it to be unrealistic.

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The American model will be imposed to all who fall under the Empire of Lies dominion.
Americanism = Globalism.

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The 60's to 80's decades were the apex of US power.
Since then, it entered the phase of its decline.
60's factors:
Babyboomers came of age
Frankfurt School dominated academia
Immigration policy changed - "correcting its racial biases."
Strausseans finalized their education in textual duplicity - becoming future neo-cons

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And 'white' is used in the American sense....
All Americanized minds reduce race to skin pigmentation, because most of them are already the product of miscegenation., so they need a general and obvious concept to identify with and to be included within.

There are no black, white, red, yellow races.

There are Indo-Euroepans, or Cauacasoids.....Africans or Negroids, Afro-Asiatics, Asiatics, etc.
Language families give a general racial outline....but they also confuse the lines because language can be transmitted easily - through oral or written intercourse (Meme) - whereas genes take longer to be transmitted through physical intercourse (Gene).
Memeologies are extensions of genealogies....so cultures are the representation of a population's historical relationship with existence, with the environment.
Culture is gene specific, even if other peoples can be integrated into it, over time.
Something is always lost in the transmission/translation.

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Discrimination?
Only for Europeans.

It also shows how the holocaust has been established, in Americanism, as a point of historical, and moral, and political, reference.
Victim hierarchy's standard.
Everyone and everything will be judged relative to its overarching shadow.

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Americanism despises all forms of nationalizing resources, because it prevents corporations - their elites - from exploiting them.
They call it socialism, or communism, and rile up men-children with dreams of power and attaining elite status.
Unfortunately, they are not circumcised, even if they have been lobotomized, and they still haven't proven their loyalties by doing what is asked of them.
All they have are dreams of natural meritocracy, a return to jungle laws - they call 'anarchy' - and the hope that one day their true merits will be appreciated by the masses, who they are learning to manipulate and exploit using the same methods being used by the elites they worship.

This is how they understand "Will to Power" - do anything to achieve power.
Anything.
If you cannot, you will not... not in American dominion.

Now they've been seduced by the neo-con - Straussean - idea of concealed messages in the texts they've read.
It will rejuvenate their obsessions because now the texts they slept with, under their pillows - conceal occult messages, necessitating further reading.

Their masters have really taken over their minds...using their weakness - power.
This is what they have always done - the oldest method. Feminine.
Exploit the other's weakness...his deepest desirers, concealing his deepest anxieties.

It wouldn't surprise me if Nietzsche's texts - under the guidance tutelage of the chosen ones - will reveal that Nietzsche was a proto-Zionist.
I mean, this subtext method can rehabilitate Hitler himself.
What if, concealed in the Mein Kampf text, is his loyalty to the chosen ones?
The possibilities are endless.
Men-children are rereading every book they ever read....
But can they decipher the subtext, or will their mentors conveniently expose it to them?

Why is it even necessary to nationalize resources in capitalistic systems?
Because every nation has its useful idiots - the US congress is full of them.
Men with no values and no integrity....shameless men with no loyalties other than to their own pleasures - men that could be bribed into becoming puppets - selling their nation's natural wealth to foreigners.

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This is why the Empire of Lies is declining....
A symptom of tis decadence and degeneracy.
Part of civilizational cycles.

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Fuentes outlines how the MAGA movement has died down, and Trump has given over to the Deep State. Fuentes is really the only relevant political analyst and commentary around. Adam Greene is an embarrassment by comparison, and irrelevant. Nobody has a deeper analysis into America's Illness and Disease.

Thing is this though...if Trump and the MAGA movement is beaten down by the US Deep State, and cannot reinstitute any fundamental change in domestic or foreign policy...then who possibly can? And how would such a fundamental change take place? Instead, the foreseeable future looks like a slow, steady Decline in American political, military, economic power, with sudden lurches of panic and fear, Chaos. It becomes irrelevant who exactly the US President is, because, none of them will be able to pump the breaks to what has already been set in motion since the 1970s.
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