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How is narcissism and schizophrenia tied into nihilism?

Nihilism is a reaction to emerging self-awarness, exposing the mind - psyche - to an additional source of suffering, i.e., anxiety, in relation to others. This necessitates a defensiveness, an ideological way of protecting the ego form this exposure, particularly when tis own awareness is also that of another. The individual feels insecure about how he compares to another but also because the others also perceives this.
A defensive attitude emerges developing into spiritual and secular, i.e., political ideologies that negate - nullify - other, or self, or both, so as to escape these unsettling comparisons and exposure.

This creates a noetic schisms between mind/body - using semiotics, i.e., language, to separate and inverse the mind/body relationship of or the sequence of actions/thoughts into throughs, i.e., idea/ideal, actions, i.e., real.
Keeping in mind that actions refer to existence as a state of dynamic interactivity, and thoughts to representations of this dynamic interactivity.

Narcissism emerges as a defensive inflation of ego - the lucid part of consciousness, viz., the "self" in self-awarness; that which is becoming conscious of its own consciousness - concealing self-doubt, or self-hatred in hyperbolic displays of self-esteem, self-love. The more extreme these self-agrandizing, self-promoting, displays the deeper the underlying insecurity concerning how the individual actually compares with others, i.e., how it relates to a perceived other.
Other is deflated or even negated, in the process, and only those that validate or contribute to this inflated sense of self are permitted participation in its internal dialogue.
Just as nihilism compensates for the absence of external references that validate its concepts, by using others who are in agreement, or that carry the same conceptions, so too does the narcissist only engage with those that validate its own inflated ego, lacking all others sources of self-validation.
in nihilistic dogmas/ideologies the collective becomes a self-refeential alternate reality, echoing the same ideals, by excluding a world where they are not validated and do not exist, because nihilistic ideas/ideals can only exist in minds, therefore the like-minded substitute for these absent validating references, e.g., text, gurus become icons/idols of this collective solipsism, each participant becoming for another the external reference the real world is denying, i.e., negating. Reality, the experienced world, becomes a source of negativity, and ideology/dogma becomes a source of positive reinforcement, particularly when it is shared by as many minds as possible.



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Schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder – i.e., dissociative personality disorder – when describing a nation-state, or a super-state is named multiculturalism.
Symptoms – dissociative identity disorder is characterized by the following:
Presence of two or more completely different personalities, memory variations, depression, drug abuse, eating disorders, hallucinations, anxiety, sleep disorders, panic attacks, suicidal tendencies, mood swings.
Diagnosing the American enterprise as a SuperOrganic unity – i.e., Super-State – we can contextualize all the symptoms to what is presently occurring in the U.S. [Circa2020-2021]. With no clear sense of identity the super-state dissociates from its own substantial presence by identifying with fleeting sensations, pleasures, distractions, materialistic pursuits, self-abnegating self-destructiveness, self-narcosis, overconsumption, a steady level of anxiety promoting overconsumption, drastic variations in behaviour, economic and spiritual depression, inability to slumber, to rest, i.e., restlessness, surrender to word-based fantasies, etc.

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As I said, many years ago, society, especially one founded on nihilistic principles, cultivates narcissism and schizophrenia.
I've gone into the details through my positions on mind/body dissonance and how nihilism produces linguistic paradoxes necessitating compartmentalization and self-deceit.
I've gone further by making the audacious claim that nihilism cannot survive in the world - when and if applied as a world-view as a mode of living, existing - unless it contradicts its own states values and principles, and then justifies this via self-deception.

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This relates to the modern/postmodern delusion of "being yourself"....when anyone of any intellectual merit knows the only time you can ever be yourself is when you are by yourself, and even in this instance most cannot be themselves because all they are is the social performance, viz., an adopted character they've learned to conceal their true personae beneath and selectively within.

So, this is what my position is:
Personality = determined by organ hierarchies, establishing a genetic range.
Character = determined by social hierarchies, establishing a memetic range.

When we are with another, to the degree that we have become, over time, intimate with them, we are always performing a character we've established and the other has become habituated with.
The character is a synthesis of the personality to varying degrees, adjusted over time - fine tuned - so as to achieve a goal, even if the goal/motive is nothing more than preserving your level of intimacy with him/her, i.e., preserving trust, love (agape, eros), reciprocity etc.
Here my positions on respect come into play - anxiety/fear of losing something we need/desire and we've evaluated to the degree that it imposes upon us the self-control - self-repression - of respect, viz., we respect to the degree that we need/desire and fear losing what we need/desire.

The more cultivated the personality - sophisticated the mind - the more it must self-control, , self-repress, to accommodate another.
Simple minds, for example, have very little to repress because all they are is the performance, the learned character, echoing prevailing moral and social norms.
More complex minds are fatigued by the performance and seek solitude to regain the energy required to maintain the performance.

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Satyr wrote:
This relates to the modern/postmodern delusion of "being yourself"....when anyone of any intellectual merit knows the only time you can ever be yourself is when you are by yourself, and even in this instance most cannot be themselves because all they are is the social performance, viz., an adopted character they've learned to conceal their true personae beneath and selectively within.

The more cultivated the personality - sophisticated the mind - the more it must self-control, , self-repress, to accommodate another.
Simple minds, for example, have very little to repress because all they are is the performance, the learned character, echoing prevailing moral and social norms.
More complex minds are fatigued by the performance and seek solitude to regain the energy required to maintain the performance.

Even alone, they still exude the same pretenses they put on in society. The film "American Beauty" gave good insight into that. Culture and civilization has gone unchecked for so long, it has invaded all forms of human life, that most cannot escape from it and it becomes all they are and all they know; they themselves become an artificial cultural commodity. We see this also in the current political climate.Total seperation from nature, from the real world, means an attachment to a simulated version of it; which is the feeble need to return to it. This is what romanticism is all about. And the dark side of Romanticism is spiritual impoverishment which cultivates barbaric impulses and psychosis, exactly that which dominates such cultures like the US. The body desperately trying to regain an equalibrium through extreme acts of self-destructive will.

Solitude, in some form of it, would be the only way anyone could access a measure of truth about themselves and identity. Detaching oneself from attachments. But this is unnatural and demands a special form of awareness, intelligence and endurance to manage the suffering that comes with it. The more aware one is of social pretenses, the more the indignity of them stands out and the more they seek to avoid them and refrain from subjecting themselves to them.


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Transsexuality is the manifestation of my thesis, written a long time before it was posted on KTS, in 2011.
Long before anyone could imagine the insanity that would begin to unfold almost ten years later.

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Mind/Body dissonance I identified as a symptom of nihilism, and a declining empire, viz., declining socioeconomic order, paternalism, masculinity.
As authority loses respect - intimidation - repressed psychologies - byproduct of unregulated reproduction producing unfit compounding mutations - become liberated and allowed to express themselves with impunity.
This is the end phase of empire.
Ironically, its success fermented the psychosomatic diseases that eventually bring it down - vermin and parasites emerge unafraid and unhindered, to feed on the dying corpse of a once dominant empire.

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