So what do you propose we do, regress? Go back to living in caves?
In my opinion nature has not gone away. The foundations laid by modernism still underpin the postmodern world, where supposedly all direction has been lost. Like the subconscious still directs the conscious, as all our choices originate in this dark and nebulous region, the simulacrum has turned itself towards the destruction of all non-Western, non-scientific cultures... and their biological origins.
yeah, all the things you lament, it doesn't give a shit about such as preserving western 'personal' culture for all the modern 'shit' as you would call it that you don't like. it doesn't care about preserving a way of life or a certain culture such as specific architecture, style of clothing, music etc. every invention that has taken on worldwide appeal tends to be more efficient. people didn't take to 'modern' western clothing because it was western but because it was more pragmatic etc. this is why box track housing is so prevalent or hirises. as for the personal flair or flavor of the month, that's just insignificant details. the 'scientific' and 'technological' culture is the future because it is exactly noncultural or it's not dependent on personal culture. technology and science has no bias, it just applies to everyone. it's completely pragmatic in that sense.
Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.
This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.
This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
true. it is the flaws that make one seek a solution. otherwise, it is just mindless reaction no different than animals who die off that could not adapt or were just killed off accidently. of course, this still applies in life. for instance, not all salmon make it to their spawning grounds but some do. this is not always due to ability or lack thereof but also chance.
if there were no flaws, there would be no research into anything or inventions of any kind. it would just be whatever is left to survive. this is just adaptation. 'correcting' nature is also another form of adaptation, though this is also imperfect and a continous struggle.
Zizek notes a similar contradiction in The Plague of Fantasies. He points out a strange idiosyncrasy in the military of his own home country:
They abhor homosexuality, yet will engage in the practice of poking the soldier ahead of them, say in a lunch line, in the ass with their thumb.
Now I have always believed that homophobics tend to be guys who are so busy trying to convince everyone they're not gay that you're never quite sure they've convinced themselves. And I know I've already pointed this out. But if you look at a movie like American Beauty ,which I admired but had a problem with the scene in which Chris Cooper tried to kiss Kevin Spacy in that it felt a little too heavy handed to me, then look at a movie like Bully in which the antagonist expressed his latent homosexuality with a kind of bravado that defied anyone to question his sexuality, you begin to understand how subtle latent homosexuality is. This was further confirmed by his obsessive handwashing at the place he and his friend worked at.
I mean you have to wonder if the repulsion Satyr and Eyes feel toward "the feminization of man" isn't more of a repulsion with themselves.
Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.
This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
true. it is the flaws that make one seek a solution. otherwise, it is just mindless reaction no different than animals who die off that could not adapt or were just killed off accidently. of course, this still applies in life. for instance, not all salmon make it to their spawning grounds but some do. this is not always due to ability or lack thereof but also chance.
if there were no flaws, there would be no research into anything or inventions of any kind. it would just be whatever is left to survive. this is just adaptation. 'correcting' nature is also another form of adaptation, though this is also imperfect and a continous struggle.
My point, exactly, cran.
Thought I would have to leave this board for good. Thank god, fate, whatever it is, that it's not completely the nazi/fascist/social darwinist rally that satyr and eyes are turning it into.
d63: My god! I'm dealing with the intellectual equivilent of brownshirt fascist thugs.
I clearly need to find something else to do with myself.
This sentence is too emotional and personal for philosophy. Where is your counterargument? I mean, if you merely wanted to increase minimum wage a little, because you think the capitalists are being unfair, then I wouldn't take issue, although, I would urge you to fight back without the assistance of government, but giving people money for nothing, or next to nothing and allowing them to procreate? if you can't see the absurdity in that then you are mentally deficient.
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Well then why even be here, Eyes? I mean the same could be said for philosophy and all products of the intellect.
My point is that it's a mixed package that we're pretty much stuck with, and the only way out is through.
You confuse artifice with evil and that is your error. Artifice, from culture to tools, machines and computers, is our primary means of survival, it is what separates us from them. Humankind cannot continue to exist without it, as we're extraordinarily instinctively and physically disabled. The key is balance. The world has become too artificial in some respects. Too many of our needs and particularly our wants are being satisfied. We have to cut the fat, sort to speak, the physical, emotional and social fat must be, cut. Necessity is the mother of good inventions, luxury of evil ones. Your communism is a symptom of decadence and decline. What we need now is less.. less is more. Less quantity more quality. Government should intervene less, and when it does intervene, it should kill off the stupid and the weak. The more humans there are, the less precious they are. Allow me to introduce you to a new ideology. I call it green fascism. Government shouldn't do much, but when it does something, it should cull. Less humans and less production/consumption, more quality humans and more quality production/consumption.
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And one problem with your reasoning: since the spider developed the web well before humans developed tables, how many years did it actually take to develop the table? You're math is wrong.
I think Satyr did an excellent of explaining the difference between nature and artifice.
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Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.
This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
That's what they said about the Roman empire. Civilizations tends to go through 4 stages. The first stage- it struggles with the elements for survival. It barely has enough technology to subsist (Winter/dark ages). Then, technology, social and physical, increases and there's a population boom (Spring). Man reaches a climax, the creativity and ingenuity present in spring, abandons him, as he grows fatter (Summer/light ages). Finally, his civilization begins to unravel, his technology has increased to the point where it only serves his vanity and his excesses. In spring and early summer, his inventions were born of practical necessity, and he was appreciative of the sacrifices and improvements his ancestors made, during late summer and fall, he loses his humility and respect, he begins to think of himself as immortal and omnipotent. As fall proceeds, and he starts to realize that he blew it, he turns to mindless hedonism, sensing the end is nigh, and crazed spiritual cults that promise a release and an escape from terrors he is too childish, weak and effete to cope with, unlike his hardened ancestors. A great culling shall occur, whether natural, artificial or a combination thereof, it matters not, for nothing can save the vast majority of humans now. Then, the cycle repeats itself, until man gets it right, or he annihilates himself.
Civilization more/less as a whole, has collapsed 2 times before. The 1st dark age was approximately 1200- 800 bc, the 2nd 400- 800 ad. I think we may be approaching the 3rd, they seem to occur every 1600 - 2200 years.
Civilization has limits. Efficiency can extend limits, but not indefinitely. While we were gorging ourselves, and making sure everyone was fed, food and resources were running out. Man will have to deal with this predicament with a hangover.
At a certain point and in certain ways, civilization is and becomes more like a drug than a food.. more like a toxin than nourishment.
The Jews and communists are like flies.. like cancer. Just as there is a link between obesity and cancer, Jews and communists come to feed off the hard work, wealth and power of others, namely Europeans and Americans.
Then again.. why do anything? We need to do more, we need to do more, I hear them say. Was it not the doing that got us into this mess in the 1st place? As Satyr indicates, activity comes from need, and need is a kind of weakness. Premodern civilization and religion was born of need, postmodern civilization and religion was born of want, or illusory need.. vanity, hubris.
So what do you propose we do, regress? Go back to living in caves?
In my opinion nature has not gone away. The foundations laid by modernism still underpin the postmodern world, where supposedly all direction has been lost. Like the subconscious still directs the conscious, as all our choices originate in this dark and nebulous region, the simulacrum has turned itself towards the destruction of all non-Western, non-scientific cultures... and their biological origins.
yeah, all the things you lament, it doesn't give a shit about such as preserving western 'personal' culture for all the modern 'shit' as you would call it that you don't like. it doesn't care about preserving a way of life or a certain culture such as specific architecture, style of clothing, music etc. every invention that has taken on worldwide appeal tends to be more efficient. people didn't take to 'modern' western clothing because it was western but because it was more pragmatic etc. this is why box track housing is so prevalent or hirises. as for the personal flair or flavor of the month, that's just insignificant details. the 'scientific' and 'technological' culture is the future because it is exactly noncultural or it's not dependent on personal culture. technology and science has no bias, it just applies to everyone. it's completely pragmatic in that sense.
No you idiot, you're just trying to convince yourself of exactly what I said wasn't the case, that the postmodern world is valueless and directionless and acultural. That against all the available evidence white people don't exist anymore and that race and the reasons for it have vanished.
But did you ever know what those reasons were in the first place?
And no, science and technology are not acultural. They have their origins in the in the same intellectual tradition that created the Doric order and classical geometry and the scientific method. This is an aesthetic mode as much as it is scientific. They are both intimately tied up with the physical nature of white consciousness.
Regarding clothes, why did hominids begin wearing them in the first place, because not all did. Why do Africans dress in Western clothes... because it is more pragmatic? How is it more pragmatic in tropical countries to wear a shirt and tie rather than loose fitting clothing? Look at your desperation to prove that the acceptance of Western culture is anything less than your total enslavement and an ending to your ancestors way of life and their culture because quite simply it was childish and naive.
Think again about what you've said, that science and technology are the future. Some races are incapable of producing advanced technology or sophisticated science of any kind. Where does that leave them? They are nothing more than monkeys playing with sophisticated toys - being given those toys - and simultaneously encouraged to think they are inextricably tied in some way to their production, are in some way necessary for it. It's no different to when colonial governers would pay the natives with buttons or when a child sits next to his father in the car pretending to drive it with a frisbee. I've spent years reading the bullshit of so-called post-colonial writers, white and black, as they tried to convince us that the West is backward and somehow the primitive cultures of Africa and the New World are somehow superior. So easily did these emotional minds fall victim to the simulacrum. Just like sheep on a farm are at liberty to judge as inferior and savage the world beyond the pen, but only whilst the fences are there to protect them and a farmer exists to maintain those barriers.
But let these poor creatures have their judgments. The farm exists for a reason, for the benefit of those who exist beyond its walls, not those within them.
You are a nothing little moon head. Your people have found a niche miniaturizing and manufacturing our technology, but its one we've allowed you to have for simple economic reasons. There isn't going to be any Asian empire, as your people have not changed despite the adoption of Western clothes and ways. Underneath the same biology is apparent. You may imitate, but you cannot overcome.
But it'd make a nice Disney film. Like Pocohontas or Avatar or something. The victory of a world that is already dead and buried, like the coming of Christ.
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Which pretty much makes anything you or anybody else is doing here “artificial”.
The only thing we are doing here is discussing issues.
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In fact, it would seem pretty much everything humans have done throughout their evolution, including the creation of Capitalism, artificial. So what is even the point in making the distinction? Seems kind of silly to me.
I know, little girl, I know.
Tell me about the first time you began hating yourself, dreaming of being a woman.
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So what do you propose we do, regress? Go back to living in caves?
It seems that the only "progress" little girls like is the progress towards their emasculation.
Little girl, you are so precious.
Of course it is the masculine tendency to usurp the status quo which is behind this. But you are not following through with the reasoning, little girl. Why would the system prefer feminine minds? Why are females more conducive to social life and more easily integrated?
I enjoy your psychobabble, little woman, I really do. I'm sure your love of yourself lies behind your need to be fully female. I understand how your condition would cause you pain and confusion and that you would dream of a world where all was reversed. Yes, change is inevitable, making you a conservative, in that sense.
Let us begin from the start, shall we? We'll do this the slow and easy way...like teaching a retarded child the ABC's
Why did sex evolve? Let's assume that single cell reproduction using splitting was effective but not efficient, as it relied on mutations during the splitting to create the changes necessary to adapt to environmental changes.
So what do you propose we do, regress? Go back to living in caves?
In my opinion nature has not gone away. The foundations laid by modernism still underpin the postmodern world, where supposedly all direction has been lost. Like the subconscious still directs the conscious, as all our choices originate in this dark and nebulous region, the simulacrum has turned itself towards the destruction of all non-Western, non-scientific cultures... and their biological origins.
yeah, all the things you lament, it doesn't give a shit about such as preserving western 'personal' culture for all the modern 'shit' as you would call it that you don't like. it doesn't care about preserving a way of life or a certain culture such as specific architecture, style of clothing, music etc. every invention that has taken on worldwide appeal tends to be more efficient. people didn't take to 'modern' western clothing because it was western but because it was more pragmatic etc. this is why box track housing is so prevalent or hirises. as for the personal flair or flavor of the month, that's just insignificant details. the 'scientific' and 'technological' culture is the future because it is exactly noncultural or it's not dependent on personal culture. technology and science has no bias, it just applies to everyone. it's completely pragmatic in that sense.
No you idiot, you're just trying to convince yourself of exactly what I said wasn't the case, that the postmodern world is valueless and directionless and acultural. That against all the available evidence white people don't exist anymore and that race and the reasons for it have vanished.
But did you ever know what those reasons were in the first place?
And no, science and technology are not acultural. They have their origins in the in the same intellectual tradition that created the Doric order and classical geometry and the scientific method. This is an aesthetic mode as much as it is scientific. They are both intimately tied up with the physical nature of white consciousness.
Regarding clothes, why did hominids begin wearing them in the first place, because not all did. Why do Africans dress in Western clothes... because it is more pragmatic? How is it more pragmatic in tropical countries to wear a shirt and tie rather than loose fitting clothing? Look at your desperation to prove that the acceptance of Western culture is anything less than your total enslavement and an ending to your ancestors way of life and their culture because quite simply it was childish and naive.
Think again about what you've said, that science and technology are the future. Some races are incapable of producing advanced technology or sophisticated science of any kind. Where does that leave them? They are nothing more than monkeys playing with sophisticated toys - being given those toys - and simultaneously encouraged to think they are inextricably tied in some way to their production, are in some way necessary for it. It's no different to when colonial governers would pay the natives with buttons or when a child sits next to his father in the car pretending to drive it with a frisbee. I've spent years reading the bullshit of so-called post-colonial writers, white and black, as they tried to convince us that the West is backward and somehow the primitive cultures of Africa and the New World are somehow superior. So easily did these emotional minds fall victim to the simulacrum. Just like sheep on a farm are at liberty to judge as inferior and savage the world beyond the pen, but only whilst the fences are there to protect them and a farmer exists to maintain those barriers.
But let these poor creatures have their judgments. The farm exists for a reason, for the benefit of those who exist beyond its walls, not those within them.
You are a nothing little moon head. Your people have found a niche miniaturizing and manufacturing our technology, but its one we've allowed you to have for simple economic reasons. There isn't going to be any Asian empire, as your people have not changed despite the adoption of Western clothes and ways. Underneath the same biology is apparent. You may imitate, but you cannot overcome.
But it'd make a nice Disney film. Like Pocohontas or Avatar or something. The victory of a world that is already dead and buried, like the coming of Christ.
notice you just threw a tantrum? the above is just irate 'blah, blah', blah'.
why? because you didn't like the fact i made a point that not only you don't like but you can't refute, so it was just more 'blah, blah, blah'.
what is your problem with the point? too realistic?
that it's YOUR FRUSTRATION with the fact your delusion that you can have your cake and eat it too, is not working?? lmfao. that it's your FRUSTRATION from the fact it's not just other races that is the problem but your own race as well but constantly project all the problems on to others or the blame as well as stupidly citing anything you can to hold onto this belief of utter superiority (and who gives a shit if someone is first, second, third as that's just life) when things are not going your way?? lmfao. and here is the big clincher: it's your FRUSTRATION that your race goes around like a virus infecting every other culture to be like yours but that same force that runs roughshod and mows down everything else is also eating away at your own culture producing garbage you don't like?? isn't that right?? but instead of facing that, you go on like a kid in the playground yelling out whatever you can to point out what is wrong or supposedly inferior about others because in truth, your own world is slowly and surely being fucked over even by your own kind. isn't that right, bitch?? let's just be real here: who the fuck is letting in hordes of other races into europe and the americas? who is fuking away like rabbits with these other races and producing offspring? hmm...this is what is pissing you off.
of course it is but you don't have the integrity to admit it. btw, as you can see, i highlighted the most telling part because it is also a projection of what is happening to your way of life onto others to make yourself feel better. btw, i've lived in both east and west and from my observation, whites have a wider bell curve so have more geniuses but there overall population is not of better quality as one can clearly witness (lol) whereas in the east it is flipped, not as many geniuses but a more stable, intelligent and more mature population in general. each has it's pros/cons. i really find your shallow and sterile/nonpersonal understanding of life grotesque travesty of it's own. there are others who have good qualities or worthy ones besides yourself, you goddamn bitch. and the world speaks english as well as adopted your way of modern life and most trying to better themselves as well as cooperate as well as many look up to you and you still are not satisfied with that like an ever restless psycopath. you should feel honored that they do, you fuking bitch, but instead would rather look at them with disdain that their culture or way of life is going away as if none of it had any value or uniqueness of it's own just for your constant superiority crutch as if it's some cold jewel.
also, you are quite stupid and keep contradicting yourself. notice westerners don't wear wooden shoes and sweep cobblestone streets anymore either and so on, citing it as childish and naive. you are so stupid because you can only see what is going on from only one angle, i could just go on and on and on..
d63: My god! I'm dealing with the intellectual equivilent of brownshirt fascist thugs.
I clearly need to find something else to do with myself.
This sentence is too emotional and personal for philosophy. Where is your counterargument? I mean, if you merely wanted to increase minimum wage a little, because you think the capitalists are being unfair, then I wouldn't take issue, although, I would urge you to fight back without the assistance of government, but giving people money for nothing, or next to nothing and allowing them to procreate? if you can't see the absurdity in that then you are mentally deficient.
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Well then why even be here, Eyes? I mean the same could be said for philosophy and all products of the intellect.
My point is that it's a mixed package that we're pretty much stuck with, and the only way out is through.
You confuse artifice with evil and that is your error. Artifice, from culture to tools, machines and computers, is our primary means of survival, it is what separates us from them. Humankind cannot continue to exist without it, as we're extraordinarily instinctively and physically disabled. The key is balance. The world has become too artificial in some respects. Too many of our needs and particularly our wants are being satisfied. We have to cut the fat, sort to speak, the physical, emotional and social fat must be, cut. Necessity is the mother of good inventions, luxury of evil ones. Your communism is a symptom of decadence and decline. What we need now is less.. less is more. Less quantity more quality. Government should intervene less, and when it does intervene, it should kill off the stupid and the weak. The more humans there are, the less precious they are. Allow me to introduce you to a new ideology. I call it green fascism. Government shouldn't do much, but when it does something, it should cull. Less humans and less production/consumption, more quality humans and more quality production/consumption.
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And one problem with your reasoning: since the spider developed the web well before humans developed tables, how many years did it actually take to develop the table? You're math is wrong.
I think Satyr did an excellent of explaining the difference between nature and artifice.
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Yes, it is clearly the present endgame of evolution, whether Satyr and Eyes like it or not.
This is not to say there aren't flaws in it. But when have there ever not been flaws? If they hadn't of existed, we would have had no real reason to evolve to point we have.
That's what they said about the Roman empire. Civilizations tends to go through 4 stages. The first stage- it struggles with the elements for survival. It barely has enough technology to subsist (Winter/dark ages). Then, technology, social and physical, increases and there's a population boom (Spring). Man reaches a climax, the creativity and ingenuity present in spring, abandons him, as he grows fatter (Summer/light ages). Finally, his civilization begins to unravel, his technology has increased to the point where it only serves his vanity and his excesses. In spring and early summer, his inventions were born of practical necessity, and he was appreciative of the sacrifices and improvements his ancestors made, during late summer and fall, he loses his humility and respect, he begins to think of himself as immortal and omnipotent. As fall proceeds, and he starts to realize that he blew it, he turns to mindless hedonism, sensing the end is nigh, and crazed spiritual cults that promise a release and an escape from terrors he is too childish, weak and effete to cope with, unlike his hardened ancestors. A great culling shall occur, whether natural, artificial or a combination thereof, it matters not, for nothing can save the vast majority of humans now. Then, the cycle repeats itself, until man gets it right, or he annihilates himself.
Civilization more/less as a whole, has collapsed 2 times before. The 1st dark age was approximately 1200- 800 bc, the 2nd 400- 800 ad. I think we may be approaching the 3rd, they seem to occur every 1600 - 2200 years.
Civilization has limits. Efficiency can extend limits, but not indefinitely. While we were gorging ourselves, and making sure everyone was fed, food and resources were running out. Man will have to deal with this predicament with a hangover.
At a certain point and in certain ways, civilization is and becomes more like a drug than a food.. more like a toxin than nourishment.
The Jews and communists are like flies.. like cancer. Just as there is a link between obesity and cancer, Jews and communists come to feed off the hard work, wealth and power of others, namely Europeans and Americans.
Then again.. why do anything? We need to do more, we need to do more, I hear them say. Was it not the doing that got us into this mess in the 1st place? As Satyr indicates, activity comes from need, and need is a kind of weakness. Premodern civilization and religion was born of need, postmodern civilization and religion was born of want, or illusory need.. vanity, hubris.
again, this is not really true. capitalism is also about greed and exploitation. the reason communism doesn't work yet is because of the tendency towards greed and overconsumption. it's also not true there are not enough resources, it's just that people tend to overconsume. the earth produces an surplus for everyone actually. again, humans don't manage it well because of this tendency or weakness toward greed and overconsumption. this was what is not getting 'right'. also, the 'hardened' ancestors were not without their faults or with the same tendencies, they just go from one phase to the next.
the jews are your own race and communists were not bothering you. instead, it was your people going around exploiting other countries for their resources for your overconsumption and greed. it's like how those corporations don't usually benefit or even fairly compensate but rape those countries and people WHILE the price is your people get fat, and have a greater link between obesity and cancer. ya see, you keep blaming only others but like a typical asshole and for blind ego posterity, delusionally project all the blame and faults onto others. now, this greed is a weakness in any human and it's easy to proliferate and spread but that's another topic.
that said, china is doing something right whereas the west just exploited the earth and others like rabid psycopaths. now, if china makes the same mistake, it will just be the same shit repeating itself. ya see, it's really unproductive to only focus on win/lose scenarios when it can be a win/win. it's just motivated by extreme fear as well as rabid selfishness/greed or ego posterity. unfortunately, people learn from going through shit and it takes them a long time to fix the most root problem, which is themselves. it doesn't matter what type of physical or mental abillity you have if one is always hampered or corrupted by one's vices as there will always be mismanagement. this is one of the greatest challenges of nature and of humanity towards making a truly better change. that is something we all need to work on. it's okay to learn from eachother, it just takes humility to do it. where one is weak, another may be stronger and vice versa.
eyes, you really need to stfu unless you know what you are talking about. to say that others are a cancer that feed off the wealth of the west is assinine and heinous. ironicly, the ones that do are closer to your race or culture such as hispanics or middle-easterners with fundamental religions. asians generally give back to the society they are in or try to be good citizens. they are not the cause of your fuking problems, no way and no how, so you need to stop blaming everyone else. as a matter of fact, there is very little waste in their societies usually and they appreciate what they have. you could learn something from them, asshole fuking twat. also, there is nothing wrong with others improving themselves or learning from you to do so. this is exactly the superior way knowledge should be implemented. the problem will be whether they are overcome with greed and destruction as well. it's your mismanagement and you bred that shit because of your own greed. you brought those africans to the americas to exploit/use them unfairly as well for your decadence and if they are decadent, it's just their adaptation to your culture. you swung from one wrong extreme to another with the same outcome of course. you rape other countries for your decadence leaving those people worse for wear. now with all the shit, there is also work towards improvement and positive change. it just takes time but the positive is balance of eventual power so that people cannot fall into decadence or exploit eachother as much and are forced to be more sane and use resources wisely. the real problem of humanity has always been immaturity no matter what race. isn't it obvious? we want to believe that cleverness in innovation or ability is all it takes to make life worthwhile and that's still not the case.
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Speaking to a German newspaper, Mr Kagame - seen in the West as one of Africa's more dynamic leaders - was as critical of the West as he was generous in praise of China.
"The Chinese bring what Africa needs: investment and money for governments and companies," he told business newspaper Handelsblatt.
"China is investing in infrastructure and building roads," he said, adding that European and American involvement "has not brought Africa forward".
"Western firms have to a large extent polluted Africa and they are still doing it," Mr Kagame said.
Although Rwanda received substantial international aid in the wake of the 1994 genocide, which left more than 800,000 dead, Mr Kagame told Handelsblatt that relations based more on trade than aid were now the most useful to Africa.
"I would prefer the Western world to invest in Africa rather than handing out development aid," he said.
"There is a need for help - but it should be implemented in such a way as to enable trade and build up companies."
The Rwandan leader also said that high trade tariffs prevented African producers from gaining equitable access to global markets.
"It would help Africa much more if industrialised countries allowed us the same trade rights as they give to each other," Mr Kagame said.
again, this is not really true. capitalism is also about greed and exploitation. the reason communism doesn't work yet is because of the tendency towards greed and overconsumption. it's also not true there are not enough resources, it's just that people tend to overconsume. the earth produces an surplus for everyone actually. again, humans don't manage it well because of this tendency or weakness toward greed and overconsumption. this was what is not getting 'right'. also, the 'hardened' ancestors were not without their faults or with the same tendencies, they just go from one phase to the next.
Capitalism is about fairness, what's mine is mine, what's yours is yours. Capitalism is fair and free exchanges between humans. I believe it was crony capitalism that got us into this mess (aka Judeo-Capitalism or monetarism).
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the jews are your own race
The Jews are our own race the way the royal family is our own race. Years of inbreeding and acquiring their wealth through nefarious means has made them corrupt.
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and communists were not bothering you.
The Jews have been in control of our country, though central banking (see the federal reserve), for quite some time. They're gaining more and more control everyday.
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instead, it was your people going around exploiting other countries for their resources for your overconsumption and greed. it's like how those corporations don't usually benefit or even fairly compensate but rape those countries and people WHILE the price is your people get fat, and have a greater link between obesity and cancer. ya see, you keep blaming only others but like a typical asshole and for blind ego posterity, delusionally project all the blame and faults onto others. now, this greed is a weakness in any human and it's easy to proliferate and spread but that's another topic.
It is good to exploit nature to an extent, and many blacks and natives were and still are a part of nature. We have overextended, and now it is time to return to a more, moderate way of life. Ron Paul, nationalism and green capitalism (not monetarism or corporatism) will help us get there.
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eyes, you really need to stfu unless you know what you are talking about. to say that others are a cancer that feed off the wealth of the west is assinine and heinous. ironicly, the ones that do are closer to your race or culture such as hispanics or middle-easterners with fundamental religions. asians generally give back to the society they are in or try to be good citizens. they are not the cause of your fuking problems, no way and no how, so you need to stop blaming everyone else. as a matter of fact, there is very little waste in their societies usually and they appreciate what they have. you could learn something from them, asshole fuking twat. also, there is nothing wrong with others improving themselves or learning from you to do so. this is exactly the superior way knowledge should be implemented. the problem will be whether they are overcome with greed and destruction as well. it's your mismanagement and you bred that shit because of your own greed. you brought those africans to the americas to exploit/use them unfairly as well for your decadence and if they are decadent, it's just their adaptation to your culture. you swung from one wrong extreme to another with the same outcome of course. you rape other countries for your decadence leaving those people worse for wear. now with all the shit, there is also work towards improvement and positive change. it just takes time but the positive is balance of eventual power so that people cannot fall into decadence or exploit eachother as much and are forced to be more sane and use resources wisely. the real problem of humanity has always been immaturity no matter what race. isn't it obvious? we want to believe that cleverness in innovation or ability is all it takes to make life worthwhile and that's still not the case.
"Goldhaber (1997) argues that the economic laws of the Internet world are different from those of the material world. Specifically, information is plentiful on the Internet, but attention is scarce. He argues that since attention is scarce, the ability to gain attention is a form of power in that the person who has attracted attention can then lead people to perform or act in a certain way. ...As the blog numbers increase, so too does the difficulty in attracting attention. ...As Goldhaber (1997) theorized, given a plethora of information, people must come up with ways to gain the attention of the public and one way to do this is to offer something new. He argues that whereas the material or Fordist economy is based on the easy replication of items, the attention economy demands individualism and originality. Thus, the successful member of an attention economy is the individual or company who shuns repetition and duplication. In the world of blogging, you will not be read if you are not offering your readers something new or interesting. I suggest that there are two ways in which people respond to this demand for originality within the blogosphere. They overshare as a way to assert their individualism, or they strive to say something that will allow their readers to see the world in a new way. ...In the drive for attention, the media culture pushes into private space and individuals push the trivial and intimate aspects of their lives into the public sphere. This phenomenon is one aspect of what Agger (2004) described as the breakdown of boundaries between public and private space as well as the “dematerialization” of the line between text and the world."
