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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 4:55 pm

phoneutria wrote:
Supra-Aryanist wrote:
Mo wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
So you're from what part of America?

He speaks like he's Count Dracula from Transilvania.

But my guess is he's from Wisconsin.

Nay.
What gives with everyone's fixation on my heredity, physiognomy/appearance, and place of origin and residence.
We aren't cool like that. You're getting into Someone's Space/Business. You don't do that.
Welcome to my ignore list.

Consequences of signing yourself up as "supra-aryanist", dear.

Same as when you sign yourself up as female, and suddenly randoms with no idea of who you are will be addressing you thusly:

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Your Was incited a motivation; it was intentional and therein directed, yet nonetheless recognizably immature, variably serving in the drive over the routine rough patches of the week. 

I'm compelled, but am not really one for alcohol and prefer not to drink and drive; besides, your eyes alone would be enough. 
In any case, I'd imagine there's still room in my blood for some European brew with a good Aryan lad or an autumnal maiden.

Then, hop into my Toyota Previa, ma'am: I'm holding the passenger door open for ye, but it can also be powered and driven by Will. This thing gets some of its best mpg while venturing in the margins.

It's just a provisional username, which wasn't even an initial choice. Also, if you're going to call me by my age, then it's only reciprocal to provide yours, as well. 

What's this, dear, electronically propagated pheromones?
Looks to be banter to me, with some type of motive/drive.
Perhaps, in part, to ascertain just how far everyone's heads are up their own asses on this forum.

I forgot the love song:

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I've got your answer: way deep.
But there is room for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 5:57 pm

phoneutria wrote:
I've got your answer: way deep.
But there is room for you.
Wink

Is that your green eye, Phoneutria?

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 5:59 pm

Yes and they're grey.
Don't get your hopes up, kid. I am a mutt.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 6:04 pm

Supra-Aryanist wrote:
Divergense wrote:
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Divergense wrote:
Fabricated?

So you're Germanic and Italic.

I'm Italian on my fathers side, and British (English, Irish and Scottish) on my mothers.

As for Nordic, Alpine, Mediterranean and so on, I think such terms have been largely discredited, or at least, such phenotypes have more to do with convergent evolution than ancestral evolution, if you know what I mean, if not, you can ask for clarification. I still occasionally use them, myself. For example, an Alpine Italian and a Mediterranean Italian are probably going to have more in common than an Alpine Italian and an Alpine Russian, genetically. Geography sometimes matters more, than phenotypes, when determining ancestry. Another example, Negritos are very similar to Niggers in appearance, but they parted ways with them long ago, even before European Caucasoids parted ways with them.

Ah, sure, bro. Semantics, in this particular case. You caught my drift and what you add is reasonable.

My Italian heredity is from my mother's maternal line.
Her paternal side is all the German and Austrian.
Norwegian from my father's maternal line. Our surname is French, however.

Send me a PM if you're on jewbook and want to be friends on there. I've been squandering away some free time on it lately.


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I'm not on facebook, so we'll have to converse via this forum.

Alright, mate. See ye around.
I think you should weave a thread on empirical idealism, in which I'll probably participate. While my mind is open to the possibility of objective archetypes, be they rationally or empirically discovered, it's not wide open. I'd like to hear you elaborate and expound on your theory, and argue for it.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 6:41 pm

Divergense wrote:
Supra-Aryanist wrote:
Divergense wrote:
Supra-Aryanist wrote:
Divergense wrote:
Fabricated?

So you're Germanic and Italic.

I'm Italian on my fathers side, and British (English, Irish and Scottish) on my mothers.

As for Nordic, Alpine, Mediterranean and so on, I think such terms have been largely discredited, or at least, such phenotypes have more to do with convergent evolution than ancestral evolution, if you know what I mean, if not, you can ask for clarification. I still occasionally use them, myself. For example, an Alpine Italian and a Mediterranean Italian are probably going to have more in common than an Alpine Italian and an Alpine Russian, genetically. Geography sometimes matters more, than phenotypes, when determining ancestry. Another example, Negritos are very similar to Niggers in appearance, but they parted ways with them long ago, even before European Caucasoids parted ways with them.

Ah, sure, bro. Semantics, in this particular case. You caught my drift and what you add is reasonable.

My Italian heredity is from my mother's maternal line.
Her paternal side is all the German and Austrian.
Norwegian from my father's maternal line. Our surname is French, however.

Send me a PM if you're on jewbook and want to be friends on there. I've been squandering away some free time on it lately.


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I'm not on facebook, so we'll have to converse via this forum.

Alright, mate. See ye around.
I think you should weave a thread on empirical idealism, in which I'll probably participate. While my mind is open to the possibility of objective archetypes, be they rationally or empirically discovered, it's not wide open. I'd like to hear you elaborate and expound on your theory, and argue for it.

Divergense,

It's not my own theory of knowledge: the principles are ancient, primordial, albeit I have formulated my own individualized epistemology upon its fundamentals.
Analogously, the driving principles of National Socialism, for instance, were nothing exclusive to its particular form or expression. Rather, it was an attempt to align and adhere with the creative hierarchical forces of the Cosmos.
The descriptive "Empirical Idealism" was more or less patterned by Rudolf Steiner, which he came to independent conclusions through influential ideas underlying Goethean phenomenology.
In large part, I appreciate the term because it applies in accordance with the times.

I am compelled by your confidence, my friend. Let me gather my thoughts during this week and rid of the nicotine in my system and then I will possibly try to put something together.
My mind and heart are swamped lately; I should have some time off approaching sooner than later.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:03 pm

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Yes and they're grey.
Don't get your hopes up, kid. I am a mutt.

Don't surfeit yourself, Ms. Eye.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:09 pm

Supra-Aryanist wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
Yes and they're grey.
Don't get your hopes up, kid. I am a mutt.

Don't surfeit yourself, Ms. Eye.

At least you don't pluck out the majority of your eyebrows.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:13 pm

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At least you don't pluck out the majority of your eyebrows.

She keeps them to look more primal.
She wants to make boys shit their pants, with a look.

I'm guessing it's because she wants to be fucked real hard, like an animal....all passion and blood.

Are you the man for the job?

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:22 pm

Satyr wrote:
Supra-Aryanist wrote:


At least you don't pluck out the majority of your eyebrows.

She keeps them to look more primal.
She wants to make boys shit their pants, with a look.

I'm guessing it's because she wants to be fucked real hard, like an animal....all passion and blood.

Are you the man for the job?  

Parts are virtually meaningless without the whole, or contextualization.

Nay, boss. I figured you'd rise to the occasion. Take one for the team, bro.
Besides, who tries to get laid on the internet, much less with a faceless women who is well past age of fertility.


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:25 pm

It's been done, bro....more than once.

Some fertilize using only their semen, others use more potent, timeless, seed.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 7:35 pm

Satyr wrote:
It's been done, bro....more than once.

Some fertilize using only their semen, others use more potent, timeless, seed.

I imagine you're implying your legendary meme.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Aug 04, 2014 8:04 pm

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I would say your needs are about power and control, which are effectively used here, which doesn't quite add up, as you profess to be a WOMAN, (although that is debatable), in charge of what essentially is a male dominated Forum.

Big Girl,

Are you Purple Dragon?


I am everyone here and I am everything but a girl. You know a female like me cannot exist of course.
Feel good and comfort yourself. Now you know a warm fireplace and a luxurious cabin home is not enough already to soothe you.

All these petty distractions you fool around here are all a stalling for your deeper fears and anxieties; when you are ready to face yourself honestly and not in the ignorant self-indulgent way you "advised" Satyr - "One of the most difficult tasks is to rebuild a life for yourself and believe that you are "lovable"" , PM me and we can discuss about life and death - what ails you.

Later.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Aug 05, 2014 10:27 pm

Divergense wrote:
Aryan wrote:
Right: It's always staring us right in the face, as phenomenon, but the ideal, or archetype remains ostensibly elusive.
We choose whether to see it or not. Some have no interest in these inner thoughts and derelict its acknowledgement, and in effect remain part of the delusional herd.
It's why you can offer explicit ideas to people, yet all they will see is abstraction as it were and anything which they do not understand or ascertain is deemed arbitrary.
There are no secrets, but to teach someone things is to really love them. Not everyone deserves to be taught and some things should be shared with only certain people, while other things should be kept to oneself.
Ideas, thoughts, aren't just ours, as they are contained within things. The expression is ours, but it is inclusive to the ideas.
You sound like a Platonic idealist.

Ideas and ideals too, are subject to flux, growth/decay, and while some of them may be innate, or partly innate, that is to say, hardwired into our brains via genetics, most of them are adopted (inculcated) by the individual from their culture and language, which are subject to change, or else ideas and ideals are constructed by the individual, so as to assist him in parsing and comprehending reality. We do not experience them as having an independent reality, the way the objects of our sensations do, they (ideas/ideals) ought to defer and refer to sensation, or else, they are meaningless, they refer to nothing in and of themselves, and if you think otherwise, I'd like to hear your reasons, why?

Aye, our ideals are altered as we understand ourselves and reciprocally the outer natural world, which means becoming culpable and abandoning ideology, rhetoric  and dogma on grounds of tradition and habit alone -- doing away with fanaticism which is the incontrovertible vehicle into illusion -- or without taking it into one's own thought sequences; testing it to see if it holds up to reality/logic.
Through our faculty of thinking, a suprasense if you will, please, we seek to unify this otherwise separated outer world of nature: thinking is what bridges objective-subjective. It's ideally there whether the onlooker is perceptive of it or not.
We systematically develop empirical laws based on our observations of them (ideals). We are really only making approximations, but the more one develops in concordance with one's own higher ideals -- mental evolution -- which necessitates an aim at aligning with these driving principles of Nature, then the approximations become more exact. We also evolve -- or devolve as is often the convention case -- along with the rest of the Cosmos.

Culture is the product of aligning or maligning with these creative Cosmic driving principles, which are hierarchical. As you said, these act on the individual, preeminently during formative years. However, it's problematic, nay, dangerous, when a culture is designed which are in err with ideals of Nature.
The consequences aren't something to take lightly.


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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptySat Aug 09, 2014 1:05 am

But you realize, straight/crooked, 1/0, apples/oranges, and so on, all language/math, all ideas/ideals, don't actually exist, right?
Well, they exist in the same way a painting of an apple exists, but isn't an actual apple, but rather, a gross simplification of a phenomenon, a process, which may very well be, infinitely complex and dynamic.

Sensation is a simplification of process(s), and ideas, a further simplification.
The senses don't see the whole of reality, nor the whole of objects within it, but only surfaces.
Sensation gives us a richer picture of things than reason, which parses sensation, arranges and assorts it according to causation, and similarity/difference.
The reason why mind can't fathom the whole of things, is because the mind is limited, although its limits are imprecise, where as the cosmos itself, is likely unlimited, or at least, is unthinkably more complicated than the one doing the comprehending.

Yes, all our words, terms and thoughts, are mere symbols, representations, estimations and approximations of things, rather than things in themselves, they're ways of measuring the world, just as inches don't exist outside our heads, but refer to things which exist, or which are thought to likely exist or seem to exist outside our heads.
An inch is a construct, we invented it at a certain point in time, and the same thing goes with all language/math, none of which we'll ever be able to duplicate precisely, and none of which exist externally.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyWed Aug 27, 2014 9:29 am

A glimpse of madness in Sweden; they even want to stop the boys when exiting the door, in a pre-school, so that they cannot rush out on the yard; so the girls can be the first.






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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 4:12 pm

This thread seems a fine place to put this...

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Over at Philosophy Now there's a thread (On Ray Rice and Moral Absolutes).

The question there: "Is absolute non-violence against women a true and justified moral absolute?"

My answer: Of course not.

If she's comin' at you with a knife, you best defend yourself.

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Three issues...

Rice's 'domestic violence': since his wife has 'forgiven' him, the rest of the world needs to shut the hell up and go about its business.

Rice's termination (from the team and all endorsements): these are contractual matters...if Rice violated contracts then, boo hoo for him...if the team and endorsers released Rice without an agreed-upon policy for such things in place then, Rice can seek redress in the courts.

'Domestic violence' (in general): I'm guessin' a fat percentage of what's reported is (like many reports of rape) not actually violence of man against woman, but a simple yanking of the man's leash by the woman.

Not sayin' men don't beat up and rape women...'am' sayin' that many of these accusations are horseshit.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 4:58 pm

Henry Quirk wrote:
Rice's 'domestic violence': since his wife has 'forgiven' him, the rest of the world needs to shut the hell up and go about its business.

Rice's termination (from the team and all endorsements): these are contractual matters...if Rice violated contracts then, boo hoo for him...if the team and endorsers released Rice without an agreed-upon policy for such things in place then, Rice can seek redress in the courts.

Looks like this woman belongs to the herd. They claim her.
Fighting the patriarchy gives it away - all livin' in a matriarchy.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 5:26 pm

"Looks like this woman belongs to the herd."

You mean Rice's wife, yes?

Seems to me: she's doin' what all prostitutes (and most wives) do, that is, trading the one commodity she's got (her flesh; the use of her flesh) for cash and comfort (minus the occasional ass-whuppin', of course).

And: knowin' where her bread is buttered, she 'stands by her man' (even as she applies makeup to hide the bruises).

I don't condemn or praise this...it just is what it is.

Not sure what 'the herd' has to do with that since -- currently -- 'the herd' would like Rice castrated.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 6:08 pm

Henry Quirk wrote:
"Looks like this woman belongs to the herd."
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Not sure what 'the herd' has to do with that.

As you have mentioned, she's not the one pressing any charges, at least as far as I know about this story. He's being attacked and ostracized by 'the herd' - his contract and reputation and so forth.

I have no idea about their relationship - how much physical violence, how did it come about, does she stick in the relationship for the money or is it the attraction to the brute? I don't know.
I actually don't think she's a plain gold digger.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyTue Sep 09, 2014 6:39 pm

This belongs in the feminism thread, or elsewhere, especially after looking up this "Ray Rice"...

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyWed Sep 10, 2014 11:13 am

Anfang,

I get it now...the 'herd' mention had me flummoxed.

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"I actually don't think she's a plain gold digger."

I don't either (though, I'm thinkin' that's her primary motivation) simply cuz agendas are never pure but, instead, are always an amalgam (love mixed with opportunism mixed with etc.).

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Burn,

"This belongs in the feminism thread, or elsewhere..."

I disagree but -- as this is her thread -- Lyssa should make the call.
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You disagree because you haven't read the thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 10:58 am

phoneutria,

My justification for posting (what I have) in this thread comes from the first line of the first post in this thread.

However, if you find my posts (in this thread) distasteful, inferior, or off the mark, please, feel free to delete them.

'nuff said
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Not at all. Just out of place.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 11, 2014 7:28 pm

And there you go: transplanted...  Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptySat Sep 13, 2014 2:42 pm

As I understand it: Mrs. Rice went to a lot of trouble, while in the elevator with Mr. Rice, to spit on him, slap him (over and over and over).

If this is the case: then what the hell did she expect he would do?

Stand still and 'take it like a man'?

Circumstance considered: he showed restraint.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptySat Sep 13, 2014 6:51 pm

In my view, the way violence is handled in this society is one of the main elements of feminization and overall deterioration of the spirit. No controlled honest way to settle such things. Just tactics of suppression and kicking the can down the road by drowning the population in distractions.
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Blacks parents are known for hitting their children more often on average than parents of other races. Then as an athlete tries to make and NFL team, aggression is what makes him stand out in training camp, and reflexes makes him stand out during the game.

This so called "scandal" reminds me of the "scandal" that the NBA likely manufactured last spring to create ratings. The owner of the LA Clippers was crucified for innocuous remarks made in private that were claimed to be offensive towards blacks. Then in this later scandal we have a black NFL player basically being crucified for being a black NFL player, showing how little concern the American media actually has for blacks.

What these two "scandals" have in common is feminization. In the first, the "race issue" aside, we had a rich man about 80, being less than completely complacent to the wishes of his much younger trophy girlfriend, trying to tell her who she can associate with at the Clipper games. The outcome was that his ex-wife made out like a bandit on the forceful sell of his team. Then in the latter "scandal", a black athlete failed to make the agonizing effort to suppress his instincts when regarding women.

It seems for an athlete such as Rice to be able to restrain himself during an onslaught such as he experienced he would need to have required a sense of blind worship and submission towards women, a schizophrenia in a sense, where his aggressive instinct is subverted by his worship of women. Basically, he must be feminized everywhere but on the field.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 11 EmptyMon Sep 15, 2014 11:21 am

"It seems for an athlete such as Rice to be able to restrain himself during an onslaught such as he experienced he would need to have required a sense of blind worship and submission towards women..."

Possible but certainly not the only option.

Equally possible: pragmatically exercising self-control so as to minimize potential jail time.

That is: 'I can't just let this person spit on and slap me, and she won't friggin' stop, so, I can beat her face in, or, I can simply stop her...in the first case, I'll probably get locked up for a loooong time...in the second, I might actually skate'.

Despite his obvious shortcomings: it’s possible Mr. Rice simply self-controlled out of self interest, not domestication.

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"drowning the population in distractions"

Innumerable distractions: makin' folks think they 'need' 'this' or 'that' (when what they actually 'need' is less 'this' or 'that')...multiple albatrosses round necks...mill stones and leg irons.


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