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Human behaviour explained within Evolution Theory.

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Emotions are automated reactions to stimuli, established over centuries of natural selection pressures - trial & error - so as to facilitate efficient responses which increases the probability of their effectiveness.

Hate/Love can be explained as impulsive, spontaneous reactivity, circumventing the lucid, conscious mind - which I've called 'ego' to differentiate it from unconscious/subconscious choices and actions.

Hate is usually associated with a perceived threat, and often confused with disgust - oftentimes intentionally - so as to use anxiety/fear as a slandering, shaming, underpinning, rationalizing hate.
Love is often allowed to remain obscure and mystical so as to not expose its underpinnings which are also founded on anxiety/fear, but with a different reaction.
Hate repulses whereas love attracts, makes the other less threatening by focusing on similarities rather than differences, often exaggerating and/or focusing on them - the positive is accentuated/revealed/inflated and the negative concealed/deflated.
Hate does the reverse. Bother are rationalized and given a motive.
Hate/Love are impulsive, physical, reactions given a mental motive, after-the-fact.
Hate is blamed on fear/anxiety, and given a motive, a cause, a "irrational phobia", and love is permitted to remain mystical, irrational, inexplicable, an "irrational divinity" ....mysteriousness.
The hated one can have no positive traits; the loved one can have no negative traits.
Pathos regresses to a simplistic either/or judgment, ignoring ambiguities.
All or Nothing.
Hate distances and separates self from other; love assimilates and integrates, losing self in other; both deal with existential anxiety - responsibility of individuality within cosmic uncertainty.
The higher the anxiety the more willing the mind is to sacrifice self to another, or to distance self from another.

Disgust is more visceral and physical. A repulsion of what is perceived as toxic to the organism's organization.
No hate/love is involved, though we often use the term 'hate' to express our disgust, and displeasure, and 'love' to express our preference, and pleasure.

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The only contention i would say is expressed in this posted meme.
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I think for the dumbest and average men his description is correct, but i think above average men prefer a balance between mind/body.

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PostSubject: Re: Evolutionary Psychology Evolutionary Psychology EmptyFri May 01, 2020 8:40 pm

I admit that I'm an 'ass man' and do not much care for breasts, big or small.
Average size is fine.

As I get older, personality rises in importance.

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As I get older, personality rises in importance.  

As it did for Socrates, just dont put it on a pedestal like he did.

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I associate breast fetishes with length of breast-feeding. Boys that are not breast fed enough, will develop a breast fetish.

The as is clearly connected with reproduction, because it signals fertility.
A woman cannot have a shapely buttocks without also having a 7/10 waist to hip ratio...but woman can have big breasts and be obese, or shaped like boxes.

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As I get older, personality rises in importance.  

As it did for Socrates, just dont put it on a pedestal like he did.

Well, Socrates reportedly had a terrible wife, forcing him to leave the home early in the day and return to it only at night.

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Satyr wrote:
As I get older, personality rises in importance.  

As it did for Socrates, just dont put it on a pedestal like he did.

Well, Socrates reportedly had a terrible wife, forcing him to leave the home early in the day and return to it only at night.

I meant it more in regards to his philosophy but that is true, perhaps what she lacked in personality she made up in other ways...

I prefer an extremely heavy chest myself and you aren't too far from the mark with your description, although unlike what might be predicted from Dutton, i would not pursue the "r strategy".

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Not everything he says is correct, or things I agree with. His positions on religion, for instance....his and his partners, I disagree with.
His partner Woodley has admitted to being an absolutist.

Nevertheless, breasts can be associated with immediate psychological gratification, connected to infancy and breast-feeding....whereas ass is about long term considerations, like the mothers health, her fitness.
Males attracted to breasts tend to seek a dominant, or a motherly female, compensating with a loss of their own mother or an insufficient mother.

We tend to only focus on the deficiencies of the father.

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Dumbing-Down, as Dutton and Woodley talk about [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] will be characterized by an increase in sexual obsessions, and in cRap, and fArt taking over.

Have you dared to watch television these days?
Nothing but simplistic shit for simpletons....
Have you gone to the movies?
Have you tried to find intelligent humour?

Compare the old-Left with the new-Left, the Moderns.
Gone are the grand, wold sweeping ideologue who dreamed of eugenically changing mankind....what we've got today are opportunists, clambering for a piece of the pie, making excuses, thinking only about themselves.
Dumbing-Down.
Hedonism is the new all-encompassing 'truism'.

Feminization of Man.

Dumbing-Down is a retardation - cultivation of perpetual infancy or adolescence.
Nobody wants to grow-up and take responsibility, face reality, think beyond himself/herself.
It's all shirking dimensoinally to a here/now - no past, no investment in the future.....or a future cut off from the past, fantasizing all kinds of absurd, infantile crap, and believing in it; a regression to superposition, magical thinking, irrational hope, i.e., faith.

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Body hungers and can become addicted.
Mind hungers and can become obsessed.

Both expose a weakness, a need/desire that remains unsatisfied.

Drug addiction is an example of a mental deficiency seeking relief in chemical intoxication, gradually becoming habituated with this sate to the point where it cannot live without its support.
Obsessiveness is the psychological equivalent, viz., a psychology becoming habituated with a supportive external factor it cannot live without.

Subconsciously the addict/obsessive wants to integrate this external factor - saturate it into his/her very being, until he merges with it, or wants to destroy it, erase it out of existence so that it no longer confronts him/her with its presence; a need to eradicate what reminds it of its own weakness, or of a truth about its own feebleness.

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Foraging species, such as herbivorous, and herd animals, tend to gather for reproductive and sheltering advantages but remain less cooperative due to the readiness of the nutrients they forage freely and independently from other herd members.

Hunters are more cooperative because the source of their nutrients is less accessible, and they increase their hunting potentials when they cooperate with fellow pack members.

This slight but crucial difference is part of the Abrahamic and Marxist psychology as it relates to 'Indo-European/pagan' psychologies and their authoritarian psychologies.

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whereas ass is about long term considerations, like the mothers health, her fitness.

Well "Joggers" tend to have the same preference despite their short term nature. You sure its ass? And not hips? Hips that dont require a "C-section" to birth a bigger brain.

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I've heard a different theory. Basically, a full breast looks in its shape similar to a woman's buttocks from behind.
As man began to walk on two feet the woman's buttocks were not as exposed to the view of the males as before, so the woman's chest also began to function as the same signal.

Fertility and health wise I suspect a well proportioned hip is more indicative of a woman's overall health than large breasts.

To me at least, if the woman has small breasts yet a well proportioned hip/ass then she still looks feminine and attractive. Nice breasts is like a bonus. But if she has a not particularly feminine looking hip/ass yet big breasts it looks a bit weird to me, like something is off.
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whereas ass is about long term considerations, like the mothers health, her fitness.

Well "Joggers" tend to have the same preference despite their short term nature. You sure its ass? And not hips? Hips that dont require a "C-section" to birth a bigger brain.
Yes, more precisely it is hips to waist ration.
A plump round buttock indicates a store of fat (stored energy) required to carry out a successful gestation.

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This is how "postmodernism" evolves. Strength lacks less than weakness. So weakness is more easily absorbed into a collective will to a greater degree then strength which is more individualistic, self-sufficient. The purpose of equality is to eliminate all distinctions and differences. It cannot remain as a concept, it is too aggressive and demanding in its nature as an absolute, it must externalize itself to the physical and attempt to level any threat of difference to absolutize a power structure.

Globalism is postmodernism; the extension of equality from one particular culture to annex the rest. Imperial equality.

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Physical & Mental, i.e., psychological, traits that increased the probability of successful reproduction were passed-on, those that did not faded away.
Eventually physical & mental specialization cultivated specific traits.

From genes to memes.

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The cost of producing an ovum relative to that of sperm, and the fact of the size of contribution - males contributing less than females - is what determines the physical and mental differences as well as the difference in promiscuity and sexual behaviour characterizing the difference sexes under normal circumstances.

Ovum= energy costly.
Sperm = cheap.

X-Chromosome = more genes.
Y-Chromosome = less genes.

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Evolutionary psychology begins with the premise that mind - psyche - is like the body, a manifestation of evolutionary forces.
It deals with organic behaviours, i.e., patterns of consistent, repeating reliability; studying behavioural rules and placing exceptions in relation to them.

The study of life is the study of patterns that have become aware. It is the study of conscious, intentional, ordering.
This cannot include chaotic forces, other than through their effect on order, manifesting exceptions to evolving behavioural and physical patterns.
Behavioural patterns - norms - always correspond to physical patterns, because mind/body participate in an organic unity.
Mind/Body patterns evolve within environmental circumstances, developing niche survival and reproductive patterns - physical and mental (psychological) traits cultivated to facilitate survival and reproduction strategies.
Only the evolution of self-awarness produces a defensiveness which may develop into nihilistic memes that strive to conceal or to usurp behavioural and physical patterns. Nihilism is always about concealment via semiotics, e.g., garments, language, pretence, etc., therefore it can only emerge - evolve - within organisms that have reached a certain level of self-awarness, e.g., homo sapiens.
Self-concealment - the desire to not be seen - can take the form of self-deciet, self-abnegation, or self-negation.
Denial of any degree of free-will - agency - can be included within this context of escaping responsibility, or evading the recognition of culpability.

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