Surrender and Sexual Predation

phoneutria wrote:

A software architect conceptualizes. He says the cake will be orange flavored, will be moist, will have icing, will be served cold with a dollop of chantilly.
A software engineer strategizes and then develops a formula. He thinks we will add sour cream to the batter to make it moist, we will use both baking soda and baking powder to maximize carbonization, we will use both orange juice and zest so that the orange flavor is strong. Then he writes it all down in a way that it can be implemented with success.
A software programmer implements. He'll take the formula and follow it to the word. If the formula is ambiguous or incomplete, he cannot succeed as he does not make decisions. He has to ask the enginner

Sounds like there is not much thinking left for the programmer in that description. I have to say, I do get the impression that the 'programmer' is just less capable than the software engineer and can only execute simpler tasks. Less experienced and/or less skilled.

Lyssa wrote:

Satyr lives out his essence,, no point in seeing him unpleasant or ugly. He is honesty incarnate when he wants to establish measure with you.

Satyr is a fake, with a mask for every occasion.
The moment his mask drops, he deletes entire conversations.
Satyr thinks I hide, but has 15 different incompatible labels for me.
So much for what he really thinks of his labeling.
Ask me to answer something.
Satyr is so absorbed in himself that everything he sees is his projection.
In the dark, he sees only the internal shadows that wander his mind.
He doesn’t know the difference between description, and justification.
I am standing right here. Ask me to answer something...
Satyr didn’t know what his bitch’s OP said, about surrender.
Because he doesn’t care.
Satyr cares only about his own interests. He is a solipsist about value.
And because of it, you are the victim.
Satyr feeds on and exploits the weak---not for literal food, for his self-perception.
That's the metaphor, literalized. How pathetic...
And hence, he becomes another kind of weakness.
If Satyr respects the past, rather than buries it, why don’t you ask him for our Chatbox archives?


Keep my shirt sleeve.

The hunt is on.

"You don't know him like I do!"

... says the woman with a black eye

Mo wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

Satyr lives out his essence,, no point in seeing him unpleasant or ugly. He is honesty incarnate when he wants to establish measure with you.

Satyr is a fake, with a mask for every occasion.

He's honesty incarnate when he already explained:

"Some things a king will not do, if he is to remain a King:

---Speak openly and honestly when amongst his minions.
---Show contempt for them.
---Refuse to grant them favor, give them hope, lend credence to their worries.

Between a King and a philosopher-King a gulf.
One shuns status thuogh it is thrust upon him, and surrounds him like a cloud.
One has the immediate as a forethought, the other as his main objective.
One reaches for followers, the other feels contempt for them.
One looks inward, via the outward, the other outward, via the inward.
One flatters and expects the same in return, so as to avoid insult, the other cares not for either and indulges in both with the same care.
One places himself at the center of reality, the world, as the arbitrator of justice, beauty, the other places himself on the periphery, seeking towards the center all of these attributes. "

Quote :

The moment his mask drops, he deletes entire conversations.

You speak of that as a generality and give a false impression, when fact is it was the one time and perhaps he did so because he thought it inconseqential. I was not here, so I cannot answer that.
But you were asked sincerely to recall the exchange you had, which is supposed to be significant.

Quote :

Satyr thinks I hide, but has 15 different incompatible labels for me.

And yet you do not even start a thread addressing every one, and let others excavate too, as to who's in the right.

Quote :

Satyr is so absorbed in himself that everything he sees is his projection.

Point out what he's neglected taking into account and where?

Quote :

In the dark, he sees only the internal shadows that wander his mind.

That's saying nothing,, everybody experiences that.

Quote :

He doesn’t know the difference between description, and justification.

And where are you taking that to conclude what about him?

Quote :

Satyr didn’t know what his bitch’s OP said, about surrender.

He was concerned with tangential explorations.

He already stated he was working in a certain context.

Quote :

Because he doesn’t care.

Or he cares about multiple things and doesn't feel the need to accentuate what absorbs his interest.

Quote :

Satyr cares only about his own interests. He is a solipsist about value.

That is healthy. That's the best part about him.
What? He should be some humanitarian, concerned with another's interests?
Empathy is sufficient, sympathy is not a necessity for a philosophical temperament.

Quote :

And because of it, you are the victim.

A victim likes to accrue others to its victimhood to perhaps feel better about itself.

Quote :

Satyr feeds on and exploits the weak---not for literal food, for his self-perception.

As stated before, to deny the strong its nature to hunt is just as unjust as to expect the weak to attack.

Life is such.

Quote :

That's the metaphor, literalized. How pathetic...

You must find reality pathetic.

Quote :

And hence, he becomes another kind of weakness.

Weakness is not evil; it can be a great productive stimulant. Perhaps he enjoys his weakness and cultivates them.

Quote :

If Satyr respects the past, rather than buries it, why don’t you ask him for our Chatbox archives?

If you respect your repute so much, why not look to the future and start your own thread?

Quote :

Keep my shirt sleeve.

That is not what I want to tug, thanks.

phoneutria wrote:

"You don't know him like I do!"

... says the woman with a black eye

The one who is scared to endure pain is the one talking of being a "strong woman" walking "barefoot" and cultivating the earth when she doesn't know the state of her own mind or her own scruples.

:wink:

One who has endured enough pain to know better, dear.
No virgin skin here, plenty of scars to show.

What do you call a woman with 2 black eyes?

The one who couldn't PROVE the "categorical" smear of naivete obfuscates and smears yet another black lie...

The one that doesn't have claws will always be bound to say the world is evil, and it was good.

The one that is weary will spread poison that all love is only exploitative and cynical and weak and weary and spiritually impoverished as itself.

Jaundice begets jaundice.

phoneutria wrote:

One who has endured enough pain to know better, dear.
No virgin skin here, plenty of scars to show.

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

A Narrow soul with no music.

Quote :

What do you call a woman with 2 black eyes?

Pathetic. Miserable.

Anyone who counts their scars and quantifies their pain.

Understand the meaning of walking barefoot, dear.
I've thrown out my stilettos. I no longer care for that kind of pain.
I prefer to feel the pebbles and thorns on my thick and callused soles.

phoneutria wrote:

Understand the meaning of walking barefoot, dear.
I've thrown out my stilettos. I no longer care for that kind of pain.
I prefer to feel the pebbles and thorns on  my thick and callused soles.

Understand the meaning of strong woman dear.

Life is more than clinging to pain of pebbles and pricks.

It is walking irrespective thusly making your own path.

Your brain is wired via pleasure and pain.

This relegates you to the realm of a mere animal.

A cynical animal at that.

Lyssa wrote:

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

The world is and will only be savage, and one who does not think so is the one who is deluded.

phoneutria wrote:

Understand the meaning of walking barefoot, dear.
I've thrown out my stilettos. I no longer care for that kind of pain.

What makes you continue to care for the flaws of your husband and the pain he gives you?

Two black eyes becoming blacker...

are you a masochist?

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

The world is and will only be savage, and one who does not think so is the one who is deluded.

So speaks YOUR weariness. YOUR limitation.

The delusion is your own solipsism.

Lyssa wrote:

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

The world is and will only be savage, and one who does not think so is the one who is deluded.

So speaks YOUR weariness. YOUR limitation.

The delusion is your own solipsism.

In the above we witness fifi's MONOtheistic mindset.

What she experiences is the Only Reality... for all.

Lyssa wrote:

Your brain is wired via pleasure and pain.

This relegates you to the realm of a mere animal.

A cynical animal at that.

And yours is wired via pain alone.
Pain and and it's silly pride.

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

Your brain is wired via pleasure and pain.

This relegates you to the realm of a mere animal.

A cynical animal at that.

And yours is wired via pain alone.
Pain and and it's silly pride.

Fool.

I told you, its beyond pain and pleasure.

Check the Nietzsche quotes section, it was for you, dear.

Phonee wrote:

And yours is wired via pain alone.
Pain and and it's silly pride.

Ha!!!
The man-child must weep at those reading of those words.
Will you be cultivating his wounds to match your own?

The hunt turns to a search and rescue operation.
The hunger was one of Humanitarian concerns.
Who shall rescue that "victim" of her own nature, from the little goat-man, you isn't all that.

"Just a man".
How the man-child must be cheered by his new identity...not only a scholar of another man's mind, the best parrot, but "just a man" no less.

Lyssa wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

The world is and will only be savage, and one who does not think so is the one who is deluded.

So speaks YOUR weariness. YOUR limitation.

The delusion is your own solipsism.

In the above we witness fifi's MONOtheistic mindset.

What she experiences is the Only Reality... for all.

Ask your master about it, dear.
Look for more in nature than there is in it. You'll find your naive delusions there.
Does mother cuddle you and sings bedtime songs?
She feeds you and nurses you, but the only hug you will ever get from her, is death.

She eludes the question about her husband and her own masochism.

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

phoneutria wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

The one who loves life does not wear her wares like an exhibition clinging to her scars to delude herself that the world is and will only be savage.

The world is and will only be savage, and one who does not think so is the one who is deluded.

So speaks YOUR weariness. YOUR limitation.

The delusion is your own solipsism.

In the above we witness fifi's MONOtheistic mindset.

What she experiences is the Only Reality... for all.

Ask your master about it, dear.
Look for more in nature than there is in it. You'll find your naive delusions there.

The one who is weary at the bottom of the hill will tell the other, there is nothing further but death on the yonderside.

But we healthy ones know, no...

Come to me for lullabies, dear.

Quote :

Does mother cuddle you and sings bedtime songs?
She feeds you and nurses you, but the only hug you will ever get from her, is death.

AHA .... such hatred for life..... now it shows...

Lyssa wrote:

She eludes the question about her husband and her own masochism.

He's "just a man" like her daddy...and only the godly will suffice for her cultivated tastes.
Resentiment carries on its path of leveling destruction.

her cynicism is before the absence of the fulfilling ideal....and she remains hungry.

Ask a hungry lion to think of your children, dear.
It might think twice about eating you.

Lyssa wrote:

He's honesty incarnate when he already explained:

"Some things a king will not do, if he is to remain a King:

---Speak openly and honestly when amongst his minions.

Yes, that's a good quote, minion.

Quote :

You speak of that as a generality and give a false impression, when fact is it was the one time and perhaps he did so because he thought it inconseqential. I was not here, so I cannot answer that.
But you were asked sincerely to recall the exchange you had, which is supposed to be significant.

He has been deleting entire conversations for months. Not just one, or ten. When asked, he says it is "to save space". Tell me, is that a lie?

Quote :

And yet you do not even start a thread addressing every one, and let others excavate too, as to who's in the right.

You put as much effort into understanding me as you do who to surrender to.

Quote :

That's saying nothing,, everybody experiences that.

No, it happens less when the person is not so absorbed in himself.

Quote :

Quote :

Satyr cares only about his own interests. He is a solipsist about value.

That is healthy. That's the best part about him.
What? He should be some humanitarian, concerned with another's interests?
Empathy is sufficient, sympathy is not a necessity for a philosophical temperament.

It's not healthy to care solely about yourself, because you are not the sole bearer of value. Everything that is valuable about you, you owe to certain other people---those who created you, those who taught you, and that includes your enemies. As I've said before, your enemies are who you are not---and thus you define yourself against them. You want them to be as strong as possible, because if they are not, you are not. So, tell me about preying on the weak and sickly...

Satyr wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

She eludes the question about her husband and her own masochism.

He's "just a man" like her daddy...and only the godly will suffice for her cultivated tastes.
Resentiment carries on its path of leveling destruction.  

What is sad is to take "just a man" and create a godly illusion upon it.
Because she must believe... because, what is there beyond that belief? What would she do if she had no one to care for her? Who would feel the void of god within her?

Sad.

Mr. Reasonably Compatible is an excellent cook.

Moooooooooooooo wrote:

He has been deleting entire conversations for months. Not just one, or ten. When asked, he says it is "to save space". Tell me, is that a lie?

I presume it's because something hurtful was said...and it had to go.

Mooooooooooooo wrote:

It's not healthy to care solely about yourself, because you are not the sole bearer of value.

Did you get that Phoneee?
And this after I connected value outside myself, to time....and you clutched it to your bosom, as spontaneous.

This hunt brings back memories.
I cannot count the times I was supposed to have been exposed as a fake?

phoneeee wrote:

What is sad is to take "just a man" and create a godly illusion upon it.

Woman, you and your cultivation project, the man-child, give me the material....
Should I say "just because," it's "spontaneous"?

I am "just a man".
And you?
A spider.

phoneeee wrote:

Because she must believe... because, what is there beyond that belief? What would she do if she had no one to care for her? Who would feel the void of god within her?

Are you dropping your knickers in public dear?
For-shame.

To have only faith in the nothingness, to surrender to its inevitability...to die before you are dead.

Mo wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

He's honesty incarnate when he already explained:

"Some things a king will not do, if he is to remain a King:

---Speak openly and honestly when amongst his minions.

Yes, that's a good quote, minion.

Reminders needing to remind the "king" of france shows why Satyr would consider him his poodle.

Quote :

Quote :

You speak of that as a generality and give a false impression, when fact is it was the one time and perhaps hedid so because he thought it inconseqential. I was not here, so I cannot answer that.
But you were asked sincerely to recall the exchange you had, which is supposed to be significant.

He has been deleting entire conversations for months. Not just one, or ten. When asked, he says it is "to save space". Tell me, is that a lie?

He hasn't deleted any,, they are posted on another section in the forum.

What stopped you from making your own copies if you didn't trust him? Take initiative instead of being lazy and pointing fingers.

Quote :

Quote :

And yet you do not even start a thread addressing every one, and let others excavate too, as to who's in the right.

You put as much effort into understanding me as you do who to surrender to.

You keep showing a clear proclivity for hiding, i can only understand as much as you are willing to show me.

Quote :

Quote :

That's saying nothing,, everybody experiences that.

No, it happens less when the person is not so absorbed in himself.

Everybody has a different constitution with differing degrees. There is no strict correspondence.

Quote :

Quote :

Quote :

Satyr cares only about his own interests. He is a solipsist about value.

That is healthy. That's the best part about him.
What? He should be some humanitarian, concerned with another's interests?
Empathy is sufficient, sympathy is not a necessity for a philosophical temperament.

It's not healthy to care solely about yourself, because you are not the sole bearer of value.

He's stated he cares for his kin and those like-minded.
I can attest that he does.

Quote :

Everything that is valuable about you, you owe to certain other people---those who created you, those who taught you, and that includes your enemies.

They only bring out and develop what your own spirit permits you to.

Quote :

As I've said before, your enemies are who you are not---and thus you define yourself against them. You want them to be as strong as possible, because if they are not, you are not. So, tell me about preying on the weak and sickly...

I agree.
He agrees. Hence the continuous challenge at you for 3 months because he did expect [despite what his mouth says] you to stand up to him.

phoneutria wrote:

Satyr wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

She eludes the question about her husband and her own masochism.

He's "just a man" like her daddy...and only the godly will suffice for her cultivated tastes.
Resentiment carries on its path of leveling destruction.  

What is sad is to take "just a man" and create a godly illusion upon it.

Some people are able to live god-like.

People like fifi with diseased minds caught in monotheistic Absolutism - either/or,,, man/god,,, unable to engage in nuances, degrees, cannot appreciate the range between man and god...

Quote :

Because she must believe... because, what is there beyond that belief? What would she do if she had no one to care for her? Who would feel the void of god within her?

Sad.

Because she must believe she must believe...

For her to feel strong, the other one must be reduced to naivete and delusion.

Fifi can only rise up only by pulling others down.

SAD.