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PostSubject: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:42 pm

Eventually governments everywhere will control the entirety of the internet in the near future.  When they start making internet identification mandatory for everybody the Joker will disappear from the internet altogether.  I will not even give warning of my disappearance from the internet when this happens.

I will simply disappear from the electronic grid.

No doubt there will be groups that will target political and social dissidents when all of this begins.  You will be ostracized from your job, home, neighborhood, community, and so on when they're done targeting you as a dissident. They might even try to do worse.

Think of them as the internet version of the Stasi.

Enjoy the illusion of free speech while it lasts folks.

In the near future conversations like this will become impossible.

Thought police will become a real thing.

The writing is all over the wall.


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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:10 am




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It's in the goverments/establishments best interest to have a paranoid public. Survival instincts activated; productivity massively increased. Less crime and so on, you get the jist of it I hope.


B, b, b, bu, bu, buu, but, but if it's that easy to invoke delusions - then I wonder how many I can pull off. The thing is for most its much easier to do it through taking part in them, but of course that makes them much less abusable potentially.


Question. Why can you not see through the charades of this world?





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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:21 am

You know making this thread I was very much serious in its creation.

I see through all the charades just fine.

There really will be a time when they will control the entire internet.

Technically they already do.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:47 am

Lets assume your premise. B, b, b, bu, Bu, But, but assumtion is the mother of all fuckups. Anyways. 

Oligarchy has only one main end; to perpetuate oligarchy. If everyting would stay the same ad infinitum there would be NO reason for them to change tactics. So everything has to be a reaction to someting. What might that something be? Greater and greater autonomy to smaller and smaller collectives? More and more peer-to-peer surpassing the system, making the system irrelevant? Less and less top-down?

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Then I hope you can see how they can never catch up, too late, mabey, we'll see. Why do you have this wierd will-to-be-bitch?

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Edit: I realize its a major flaw in thinking people can catch the clues. To sum: you pay attention to some reactions, some of which are exaggerated, misplaced or flat out made up. Put more eyes towards the underlying.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:46 am

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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:51 am

There Will Be Blood wrote:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Blank so soon. Can you come up with anything?

You underestimate the power and resolve of the prevailing oligarchy.

Stay on topic here, please.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:04 am

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There Will Be Blood wrote:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Blank so soon. Can you come up with anything?

You underestimate the power and resolve of the prevailing oligarchy.

Stay on topic here, please.

And you overestimate its ability to understand or value some of the concepts we talk about here.

The people who will be made examples of will be the more obvious "rebels" of this system.

It will allow those like myself to become military officers because it only cares about the appearance of conformity...for the most part.

The modern world is not run by Satyrs, as you might fear.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:17 am

Impulso Oscuro wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:
There Will Be Blood wrote:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Blank so soon. Can you come up with anything?

You underestimate the power and resolve of the prevailing oligarchy.

Stay on topic here, please.

And you overestimate its ability to understand or value some of the concepts we talk about here.

The people who will be made examples of will be the more obvious "rebels" of this system.

It will allow those like myself to become military officers because it only cares about the appearance of conformity...for the most part.

The modern world is not run by Satyrs, as you might fear.

Yes, a person like yourself would sell out.  Why?  Because it's the easy thing to do.

The oligarchs can virtually buy anybody within their pockets. Almost anybody anyways...

World run by Satyrs? Nope.

There are worse people than Satyr or myself running the world presently.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:43 am

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Yes, a person like yourself would sell out.  Why?  Because it's the easy thing to do.

The oligarchs can virtually buy anybody within their pockets.  Almost anybody anyways...

World run by Satyrs? Nope.

There are worse people than Satyr or myself running the world presently.

Ah and the hard thing to do would be sitting in a room with my underwear in my mother's basement and wait till the system collapses to finally get on with my life.
Or to go on a shooting spree trying to take as many as i can.

My allegiance lies with me and me alone, if i have to put on the dog's clothing for a while to adapt then i will do so.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:21 am

The world is run by the best hypocrites or their hired clowns with the best look and acting ability.
The Wizard is still behind the curtain.

And I, a mere goat-man, only expose the lie - pulling the curtain back, ever so slightly.

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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:29 am

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Yes, a person like yourself would sell out.  Why?  Because it's the easy thing to do.

You only say this because your a wage slave with no upward projectile. A grand resentment and self-loathing. Where is any fun? You know a Jester is royal entertainment, and just still a people person. I see nothing even remote.


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Stay on topic here, please.

YOU CLAIM TO BE THE OPPOSITE OF SATYR. VERY, VERY OFFSCRIPT. ALWAYS?


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You underestimate the power and resolve of the prevailing oligarchy.

It comes to a question of the practicality of knowledge. If that statement is just deadset on satisfying your disposition then so be it.



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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:36 am

Oh, here's some real hope I found for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:29 pm

Impulso Oscuro wrote:
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Yes, a person like yourself would sell out.  Why?  Because it's the easy thing to do.

The oligarchs can virtually buy anybody within their pockets.  Almost anybody anyways...

World run by Satyrs? Nope.

There are worse people than Satyr or myself running the world presently.

Ah and the hard thing to do would be sitting in a room with my underwear in my mother's basement and wait till the system collapses to finally get on with my life.
Or to go on a shooting spree trying to take as many as i can.

My allegiance lies with me and me alone, if i have to put on the dog's clothing for a while to adapt then i will do so.

Translation: You will suck the cock of authority if you must to survive and get by.

Mother's basement? My condolences.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:31 pm

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The world is run by the best hypocrites or their hired clowns with the best look and acting ability.
The Wizard is still behind the curtain.

And I, a mere goat-man, only expose the lie - pulling the curtain back, ever so slightly.

And eventually they'll make all of that a thought crime unfortunately.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:35 pm

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Actually my upward social mobility is coming nicely. Just a bit slower than I want it to be.

You presume too much.

When I jest I always make a point of some kind.

Your random images and videos of anime make none.

Let me guess kid, you worship authority and the state.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:09 pm

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Actually my upward social mobility is coming nicely.

Really?

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You presume too much.

Mabey, but mine are NEVER definitive. How so?


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When I jest I always make a point of some kind.

You NEVER make fun at yourself. You're an embarrassment to the branch. I could be a better version of your own ideal than you could.


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Your random images and videos of anime make none.

You have really bad taste. In.... Yeah just about everything.


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Let me guess kid, you worship authority and the state.

Potentially, but never truly. I'm just a learning machine. Adaptment.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:40 pm

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Oh, here's some real hope I found for you.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/the-pitchforks-are-coming-for-us-plutocrats-108014.html#.U8ZtQSy4JxE

I don't deal in hope.  I prefer certainties.

Congratulations, you found some Libertarian and Constitutionalist propaganda something of which I am neither of.

I like to think of myself as being in the position of the Russian mafia upon the collapse of the Soviet Union.  

[I'm an apolitical opportunist and rogue looking out for number one.]

The only difference is that when the United States collapses there won't be anybody left in the world to bail us out.   It will make the 1930's depression look like a walk in the park by comparison.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:45 pm

It'll happen eventually, just a matter of how many decades from now, or years.........

The upper level government can already hack and trace just about anybody on the net. The real deal is to keep a low profile, and understand the competing ideologies.

Anti statists are not going to have an easy time in 2024. Basically anarchists are going to take a huge brunt of government oppression. The government doesn't need any "dissent".
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:46 pm

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Actually my upward social mobility is coming nicely.

Really?

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You presume too much.

Mabey, but mine are NEVER definitive. How so?


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When I jest I always make a point of some kind.

You NEVER make fun at yourself. You're an embarrassment to the branch. I could be a better version of your own ideal than you could.


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Your random images and videos of anime make none.

You have really bad taste. In.... Yeah just about everything.


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Let me guess kid, you worship authority and the state.

Potentially, but never truly. I'm just a learning machine. Adaptment.

Yes, really.  Buying myself a new place to live over the weekend.

A better version of me?  Let's see what you got there hot shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:49 pm

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It'll happen eventually, just a matter of how many decades from now, or years.........

The upper level government can already hack and trace just about anybody on the net.  The real deal is to keep a low profile, and understand the competing ideologies.

Anti statists are not going to have an easy time in 2024.  Basically anarchists are going to take a huge brunt of government oppression.  The government doesn't need any "dissent".

2024?   Try 2022 at the latest.  I'm pretty sure it will happen before then.

As for my own personal variety of anarchists, well, let's us just say we will be a pain in the government's ass especially with that whole continual of governance thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:51 pm

Basically you won't want to be taking any "anti government" hardline stances and putting those opinions on the web, at that time.

Who knows how far the "terrorism" charge will go in a generation or two......
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:59 pm

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Basically you won't want to be taking any "anti government" hardline stances and putting those opinions on the web, at that time.

Who knows how far the "terrorism" charge will go in a generation or two......

You're alright until they start the mandatory internet identifications.

They can come and try to find me in the mountains when the time comes.

Lots of luck finding me..... Needle in a haystack.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:16 pm

Privacy and anonymity on the net is going to start costing more and more money.

If you want to voice dissident ideas then you'll need a secure proxy, and one unregulated and unwatched by the CIA.

That's going to be very difficult to do.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:45 pm

I may protest/riot, and encourage others to do so, if when this happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:00 am

Divergense wrote:
I may protest/riot, and encourage others to do so, if when this happens.

Protests accomplish nothing. Rioting on the other hand......
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PostSubject: Re: Government Eventually Controlling The Entire Internet Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:34 pm

I got. You want. It just... Don't stop. This is entertainment. Lies are entertainment.



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