Charity and Altruism: Have you ever done this?.....It feeeeeels really good

the 15 seconds later......... great!

I can hear the sharpening of blades already...

Ha! luv ya Erik, you are not just a beautiful face.

Allemotion I want to tickle the walls of your mouth with my tongue.....

In regards to the original post, no, I haven't done that. I've never had more than 1000 dollars in my bank account at a time. I've never been able to afford anything really.

I gave 100 dollars to a homeless man once. Felt good - like I was doing the right thing.

I gotta get with the program, and start accommodating people's greed if i really want to feel good about myself. Gotta make more money. What the hell was i thinking, telling that bum he should get a job?
I'm so ashamed.

stargazer wrote:

I gotta get with the program, and start accommodating people's greed if i really want to feel good about myself. Gotta make more money. What the hell was i thinking, telling that bum he should get a job?
I'm so ashamed.

Right on, LOL

I bet it feels even better when you film it and tell everyone about it. "One small deed can make a difference" right? I wonder what sort of person could think giving some random person $100 is "making a difference" and to top it off, actually feels better about themselves after( and feels truly "generous")... With the fresh glow of "doing the right thing"...I cringe... But I'll stop feeding the troll now...

Stabbing has commenced.

perpetualburn wrote:

I bet it feels even better when you film it and tell everyone about it.  "One small deed can make a difference" right?  I wonder what sort of person could think giving some random person $100 is "making a difference" and to top it off, actually feels better about themselves after( and feels truly "generous")... With the fresh glow of "doing the right thing"...I cringe... But I'll stop feeding the troll now...

The fact that in this day and age, a two dollar tip wouldn't garner the same level of gratitude from a one hundred dollar bill, speaks of the stupidity of the OP, and the cultural decline that is modernity.

But smiles are good things, what does it matter if it takes $100 to get one or $20,000?

Smiles make you feel good inside. the modern motto: 'If it feels good, do it'.
If a prostitute offers you a blow job, you should not waste one more minute worrying about whether she has Herpes or something worse. A blow job is a good thing, it feels good...just do it!

Perpetual, you seem like the type of guy that would get pissed off if someone held the door open for you.

Erik wrote:

Perpetual, you seem like the type of guy that would get pissed off if someone held the door open for you.

Why do you say that? Because I don't give in to sentimentality? Because I don't try to win appeal by showing how "caring" I am to the "less fortunate"? What does that have to do with general good manners?

Holding the door open for someone is, really, unnecessary; people have their own two hands to do that themselves, right? What, the fuck, are they thinking? That one doesn't posses the strength and autonomy to be able to do it by themself? Insulting! Patronizing! How dare they! I cringe.

I wish I could do this.

Still, there is an element of condescending power in the giver's charity.

Erik wrote:

Holding the door open for someone is, really, unnecessary; people have their own two hands to do that themselves, right? What, the fuck, are they thinking? That one doesn't posses the strength and autonomy to able to do it by themself? Insulting! Patronizing! How dare they! I cringe.

Holding the door for someone is just courtesy. Giving out $100, taping it, and getting high on how generous you are(how you're "paying it forward"), is completely different. Can you see the difference? You can't draw a parallel in terms of helping the weak, because the person you're holding the door for isn't seen as weak in the same way as the homeless person you give the money to.

It is a very humbling experience, to give to a person, who is in dire need, for whatever reason.

It's only because you do not understand the dynamic.
The giver presents himself as superior - that's his fix.
He projects himself in the other's position - this is then "humility" - then he gives, implying that he is not.

That is your opinion.

You ignore a person on the street in need, as you don't wish to acknowledge that this could happen to you....... and it could.

Advice.

Don't go back to Greece to live.


Sometimes, misfortune is out of a person's control.

reasonvemotion wrote:

That is your opinion.

That's a very powerful observation.

reasonvemotion wrote:

You ignore a person on the street in need, as you don't to wish to acknowledge that this could happen to you....... and it could.

Is that what I do?
Tell me more about my habits.

reasonvemotion wrote:

Advice.

Don't go back to Greece to live.

Was I intending to?
Some advice, for your advice:

Never give advice when not asked for it.
It's like a handout...condescending, even if well-meaning.

I know the purification of the ideal is what you need to make it deserving, but I prefer to understand the entirety of the human condition, and not the romantic idealistic, childish parts - the easy parts.

When I give a homeless person money I feel good.
And I do not comfort myself with lies to explain this pleasing feeling, nor do i need to do so to give again.

Keep your hands in your empty pockets.

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Sometimes, misfortune is out of a person's control.

No response to this, I note.

And?
So is fortune, sometimes.

One accepts it even if it is not.

And it has nothing to do with what I said.

reasonvemotion wrote:

Sometimes, misfortune is out of a person's control.

"Misfortune" in your context, being a reassuring euphemism for the indifference of reality. A bad coincidence is a misfortune; a series of poor choices and bad judgements on the other hand, is simple nature. The projection of "unjust" by labeling it as misfortune is a mind attempting to correct nature by making it into something it is not.

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Some advice, for your advice:

Never give advice when not asked for it.
It's like a handout...condescending, even if well-meaning.

Are you doing exactly what you advise not to.

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"Misfortune" in your context, being a reassuring euphemism for the indifference of reality. A bad coincidence is a misfortune; a series of poor choices and bad judgements on the other hand, is simple nature. The projection of "unjust" by labeling it as misfortune is a mind attempting to correct nature by making it into something it is not.

Have you experienced dire misfortune, STARGAZER.  The Avatar says it all.

Outerlimits.

You are bright.

Why thank you darlin!

Little ol me had an inkling of such, but I just had to have it said by a big gorgeous hunk such as yourself.

How did you come across that Youtube video, Reasonvemotion? The guys that run that channel are vulgar PUA's.

The video was not posted by Rollo.  You may know of Him.  I love what he writes.....

"The fear of loneliness is entirely too exaggerated in modern western romanticism. The popularized fear-mythology of becoming the “lonely old man who never loved” is the new ‘old maid’ myth made popular in an era when a woman’s worth was dependent upon her marital status and (at least now) equally as false a premise. But in our brave new ‘Generation AFC’, men (who’ve become women) are repackaged and shamed into believing this horse-shit as part & parcel of feminized gender role reversal. And thus we get Speed Dating and eHarmony and a host of other “conveniences” to pacify the insecurities that this reversal instills.

I’m going to suggest that most AFCs, most feminized, conditioned males, LIKE and embrace the lonely old man myth because it is a Buffer against potential rejection. Does that sound like a stretch? It shouldn’t. When used from a feminized perspective this myth is most certainly a ‘shaming’ social convention with the latent function of getting men to commit to a feminine frame – “you better change yourself soon, or your soulmate might pass you by and you’ll be lonely and desolate in your old age”. That’s the feminized use of the myth, however, the internalized AFC use of the myth is a Buffer. This then becomes his rationale for settling for a substandard LTR or marriage".

The Rational Male - By Rollo Tomassi

therationalmale.com

reasonvemotion wrote:

It is a very humbling experience, to give to a person, who is in dire need, for whatever reason.

Potentially humbling for the receiving party.
How would it be humbling for the giver?

Do you feel less important in the moment you give? That's rationalizing an emotion.
You think that you feel less important because you gave so much. Your mind rationalizes it - 'Well, with this gesture, I demonstrate that I am not any more important than this poorer person.'
NO! You are not doing that at all. You feel good! You feel that this has been the right thing to do. You think that this is good. That you are good. Far from humbling - the opposite.
Sentimentality - having the idea of an emotion.