To my mind Europe was abrahamized in 3 main stages:
Alexander and his conquest of Asia, uniting of the tribes first let semetic ideas to penetrate. The Roman empire perpetuated that scheme and totally domesticated most of the barbarian tribes. Later on Germans in their autism actually started to take christianity seriously and severed all pagan elements, the death seal.
All has gradually been going in decline since the start of these events, picking up pace ever since protestants started truly dominating. Hitler was the result of too rapid change, too wide of a gene-meme contradiction. So the war rectified that contradiction.
How many more layers down can this thing go, and can/will it be reversed are the two questions I live for.
Is becoming Catholic at this stage submiting or reversing?
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I would add that not only the Germanic tribes but many Indo-European tribes were seduced by Abrahamism, mainly because of this appeals to a fundamental human existential anxiety, concerning mortality and how he, as an individual, compares to others.
The question alludes to my positions on Russia, and how from secular nihilism - Marxism - it is now returning to a previous state of religious or spiritual nihilism - Orthodox Christianity - because the masses needs a lie to cope with existence and their own place within it - or, in regards to their individual mortality and quality, relative to the group, or others. Nihilism, as I've explained, is a defensiveness against reality and human self-consciousness.
In my view this reversion, return, to a previous more spiritual state - as opposed to the secular less spiritual more rational stage - would be like the process of dying from a disease. Recuperating from a disease would be an inversion of the process of falling ill.
I'm not suggesting returning to Abrahamism, Catholicism or otherwise, but that this is, for the masses, the only way back to health. The masses always needed a lie, or a literal interpretation of allegories concerning existence and the human condition. A movement out of this last stage of secular nihilism, would mean a return to spiritual nihilism - a more healthy form of nihilism offering a relief from the world's 'cruelty' and 'injustices' as the average man would experience it. I don't see how the average man can return to paganism and give-up the Abrahamic victim identity, that helps him cope not only with mortality and life's injustices but his awareness of himself and what he, as an individual, is, relative to others.
In my view this reversion, return, to a previous more spiritual state - as opposed to the secular less spiritual more rational stage - would be like the process of dying from a disease. Recuperating from a disease would be an inversion of the process of falling ill.
You sure about that, we dont exactly return to the Spring through the Fall either, somethings gotta die.
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I don't see how the average man can return to paganism and give-up the Abrahamic victim identity, that helps him cope not only with mortality and life's injustices but his awareness of himself and what he, as an individual, is, relative to others.
I dont think he ever will, to be "average" is to be Christian-like in whatever past or future form it takes. Helots were Christian before its spread, they were just subjugated from becoming the ideal. They will be ready to be easily subjugated/dealt with again once they become feminine and mixed enough and lose their technological crutches as a result.
I see a new form of Paganism emerging that will meet the demand for a unifying force, given the emerging Superstates, but will not rely as heavily on "averages" for its quantities, I would say a hero is yet to come who will represent the Patriarch like Zeus or Odin, but perhaps he is already here, in all of us, awaiting to emerge.
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A return does not imply forgetting. A disease, when survived, leaves its impact on the organism.
Everything repeats but never in exactly the same way.
The masses, of every age, need a lie. They need to believe the metaphor literally. They need complete, absolute, certainties. They need finality. They need the real to be delivered in a form they can comprehend and find comfort in.
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The masses, of every age, need a lie. They need to believe the metaphor literally. They need complete, absolute, certainties. They need finality. They need the real to be delivered in a form they can comprehend and find comfort in.
I just dont see anything moving upwards as long as they're around, we can see how well that went the last time it was attempted... But perhaps you're right, as annoying as they might be, they are like the woman we must all conquer at some point in order to preserve ourselves.
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The masses, of every age, need a lie. They need to believe the metaphor literally. They need complete, absolute, certainties. They need finality. They need the real to be delivered in a form they can comprehend and find comfort in.
I just dont see anything moving upwards as long as they're around, we can see how well that went the last time it was attempted... But perhaps you're right, as annoying as they might be, they are like the woman we must all conquer at some point in order to preserve ourselves.
The alternative is mass extinction to rebuild after a cleansing - this is what happened with the Black plague that triggered a renaissance once all the genetic garbage had been washed out of the European gene-pool....ironically this is why Jews dominated after the so called holocaust.
Unfit mutations accumulate over time - when there is no culling, like in nature. This degenerates the group.
the alternative is a multi-tiered system, like Hindus constructed - casts. In Capitalism it is called Class.
Difference being gene/meme. The first is based on heritage and blood, the second on inheritance and wealth. Mediocre masses will always need a plausible lie - a flattering, comforting lie. Plenty of charlatans to sell them such a lie to further their own agendas.
Out of those first two at least I would just call them Caucasians/Indo-Europeans. Ironically I have never seen Sami's or heard anyone talking Sami in real life, there are even more Somali's in Finland than there are official Sami's (according to statistics).
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I might have some Sami blood from my mothers side, her family was from the far north, i need to check.
My half sister has fully black hair, but still blonde kids. My brother's daughter has among the strongest & most beautiful nordic phenotypes I've ever seen.
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