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Datura wrote:
The UK sold its future and is a US puppet, how?
During WWII lend and lease....
The Germans offered an alliance but the Brits chose to sell themselves to the Americans instead.
After the war Britain was indebted to the US - nor morally, but economically - that entered the war only after it was certain Germany would lose - after Russia turned the tide of German victories.
Since then every war the US has fought, or will ever fight, will include Britain - its loyal lackey.

The US "liberated" themselves from Britain and its representation of old-world hierarchies, and then returned to dominate and inherit the anglo-sphere. Ever since the end of the war the Commonwealth and most of ex-British colonies have fought on the side of the US and its Americanism project - Globalization.
In the EU Britain acted as a US proxy, preventing further unification, because the US doesn't want Europe to become a unified State with a common military and foreign affairs. The US wants Europe to remain an open market, with open borders, as it does the entire world.
A world of exchanges, supply/demand, and nothing that prohibits the free flow of product and resources, including human resources. A world with no culture, other than as another product to be bought and sold on the markets.    

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America has trade deals with some commonwealth countries, sure.. that doesn’t denote any takeovers, and any (seemingly) cultural takeovers are only superfluous. You do like painting a dire picture of the world sometimes Satyr, don’t you?
And your "picture" is naïve and gullible.
The picture I paint is realistic. Reality is not kind, nor is it interested in your romantic idealism; reality is governed by power balances not emotions and altruism.
The US is not a benevolent power interested in saving mankind.
History is written by the victors who then demonize the vanquished. What you currently think is true about the wars is from the American vantage, propagated yearly in movies, through education, and the media.
Things are not as clean as you imagine them to be.

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Will lockdown bankrupt most countries, and leave us in the hands of new lenders.. perhaps that’s the plan a’la WW1 and 2 stylee, but this time it won’t be America doing the lending. But perhaps it won’t come to that.
Every event is not a product of some plan, but every event becomes an excuse to further a plan.
In this case the Covid event - intentional or not - offers an opportunity to impose authoritarian rule on populations, and to rid a systems from their post-war baby-boomer excess, who are now entering old-age and will be draining state coffers.
Imagine the benefit of expunging a system's welfare recipients. Old and sick people that would have drained the economy are being eliminated in a matter of a few months...a couple of years.  

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That was due to EU rule, that the Left signed our rights away to, to line their pockets from.. we have taken our rights back, if you hadn’t noticed.. it’s called Brexit.
Emerging Super-States are the future. Nation-States will become obsolete, just as city-states had to sacrifice their independence to a larger nation-state configuration if they hoped to survive.
Brits will soon be absorbed into another Super-State unity, through some form of free-trade agreement. It already is beginning to do so with anlgo-sphere nations, like Australia and the US because it knows that it has more in common with these Americanized anlgo-protestant multi-cultural, multi-ethnic states, for historical reasons - than it did with Europe.
The Atlantic alliance - NATO - was, is and will be, an American alliance, centered around the Atlantic - between Britain, Canada, and the US - it is a naval power.
Anglo-Saxon culture was destroyed by the Norse, and this they never forgot. This carried over to the American Civil War - see Heisman's "Suicide Note" - where retribution was won....and from then on Anglo-Protestants have been promoting liberalism and their brand of self-abnegation as a global ideal that will bring "peace on earth" - a repackaging of Christian salvation mythology.
Their American dominated liberal Super-State will be market driven, where identity and culture are products to be purchased.
Their past defeat at the hands of the Norse was turned into a world-wide messianic mission of defeating traditionalism they could not return to themselves.
Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand are all part of the core of the Anglo-sphere, where liberalism is advanced to a multi-cultural, multi-racial Super-State, absorbing whatever strays out on its own. Future lines are being drawn.
Read: The WASP Question, by Fraser, Andrew.
He goes into the reason why Anglo-Protestants around the world are committing cultural suicide, and promoting it as a progressive virtue all should emulate or be forced to surrender to - Americanism and its Liberalism project is Globalization in a nutshell.
It may suit mixed-breed individuals, like yourself, or individuals un-invested in the future, but it is another form of uniformity.

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PostSubject: Re: Chit-Chat Chit-Chat - Page 3 EmptyTue Jan 26, 2021 11:48 am

Most users tell you who they are in their signatures.
It is always a description of their most intimate understanding of themselves, even if it is through a quote or directed outward, it is always a projection of their denied self-cosnciousness.
A kind of self-critique.
This is particularly sop with simpletons, or less intelligent less self-aware, individuals - in their case the self-assesment is concealed as an externalized accusation, purging self from an intuited and undesirable self-awarness.
I've described it as self-purificaiton - attack another with what you know is true about yourself, and what you consider negative - in your own estimation using your own standards - about yourself.
A kind of purging of shame so as to protect what one is most proud of in a purified, distilled form.
Well, unless someone like me tells them...then they conceal it better.
But I know.

More self-aware honest minds tend to project their idealized self as an objective, challenging themselves to attain it.
They do not project the negative - like the simpler spirit does - but the positive, retaining the negative as that which must be surpassed towards the projected ideal.

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The wrath of numbers escapes the naïve innocence of a desperate degenerate.
He believes himself to be the exception to the rule, when he does not even comprehend the rule.
When I was in my late-twenties I gave an infantile friend of mine a rude awakening, something I still regret.
In his innocence he claimed that there was someone for everyone, in the cruel game of love. I gave him a rational rundown of the numbers and the percentages in play: 50% ration of males to females – rounded up or down, for the sake of convenience. Of those how many are single, available, and have not been already claimed; of those how many are within your immediate vicinity; of those how many will ever come in contact with you; of those how many will be attracted to you, or be introduced or even speak with you; of those how many will like you or be attracted to you? The percentages dwindle towards improbability.
The romantic idealist waits for the ideal, as the real passes him/her by.
The perfect, ideal, mate is always around the corner – always a day away – while the available – present – options flow by. The more stringent the idealist, the more naïve he/she is, the more he/she will never settle for the real, awaiting for nothing less than the imagined ideal. In the end, he/she will accuse the world for failing him/her because he/she was absorbed by a fantasy that does not exist in reality, because nothing real can ever compete with the ideal. Finally, for the disappointed, the ideal serves as a denouncement of the real, viz., the real was always too negative, too feeble, and too inferior, to what “could have been,” as the ideal. After failure and all options dry-up and fade, the naïve idealist is comforted and finds redemptive pride in his/her failure to accomplish anything real, because reality failed to deliver the goods and he/she would never settle for anything less than what was imagined to be “perfect”; he/she finds comforting pride in his/her refusal to settle for the real. See, even failure can find pride in its failure.
Here is where self-awareness – honest and accurate self-awareness – becomes crucial, e.g., under-estimate and you settle for less than you could have accomplished; over-estimate – as is most often the case with insecure naïve simpletons – and you accomplish nothing, because nothing is ever good enough.

Here we see another instance of feminization infecting judgment.

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The romantic idealist, because he/she cannot understand the difference, nor comprehend what gene/meme dynamics indicate, believes that what worked for his/her mother and father - in the past - will work for him/her - in the future.
So out-of-touch with reality he/she is that he cannot comprehend how cultural shifts - memes - affect reality.
He/She is so trapped in his grandfather's cultural paradigm that he/she cannot begin to comprehend how this is no longer applicable - paternalism has faded and left him in a void. What worked in the past no longer works in the present, and most definitely will not work in the future.
A devastating truism for desperate degenerates who lack the flexibility of mind to make the required adjustments.
This is not - indeed - your father's world - un-fuckin-fortunately.
Engulfed in subjectivity his/her private reality - which he/she has simply adopted from his/her parents - no longer adheres to the present socioeconomic - memetic - paradigm.
This is what it means to be out of touch., and autistic; inflexibility, i.e., rigidity, of mind.

Failure is the plight of a romantic, naïve, idealist. The world, and the manmade world that conceals it, are everchanging, challenging all to adapt or die....adapt, adjust, and succeed - in whatever goal you set for yourself - or fail, and use the past as an excuse for present and future failures.

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This is free-will.
Dealing with constantly changing circumstances.
If all was absolutely ordered, the methods of the past would still work in the present and would forever work in the future.
But they don't, because the cosmos is not perfectly ordered and novelties arise forcing minds to adapt or suffer the consequences of their inability to perceive, as accurately as possible, and to adjust accordingly.

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Ben The Donkey wrote:
Hey. Don't blame Australia for your problems.
Australia is currently a navel gazing, lost and confused multi-culture making the odd noise internationally in order to pretend relevance.
Not every nation wants to war and fight. The world doesn’t need warmongers and war-wagers.

Ben The Donkey wrote:
As far as Datura goes, I'd be interested in hearing about the "energy/vibe", which I was quite surprised to hear. I know that influence was there in the 90's, but I was not aware it had persisted.

I guess that those who have no interest in something, won’t see it/feel it/sense it.. doesn’t mean it isn’t there. The world operates in subtleties these days.. unlike America. ; )


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The US "liberated" themselves from Britain and its representation of old-world hierarchies, and then returned to dominate and inherit the anglo-sphere. Ever since the end of the war the Commonwealth and most of ex-British colonies have fought on the side of the US and its Americanism project - Globalization.
In the EU Britain acted as a US proxy, preventing further unification, because the US doesn't want Europe to become a unified State with a common military and foreign affairs. The US wants Europe to remain an open market, with open borders, as it does the entire world.
A world of exchanges, supply/demand, and nothing that prohibits the free flow of product and resources, including human resources. A world with no culture, other than as another product to be bought and sold on the markets.    
When you say America, you mean those who are really running the show? the banks, conglomerates etc..

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MagsJ said: America has trade deals with some commonwealth countries, sure.. that doesn’t denote any takeovers, and any (seemingly) cultural takeovers are only superfluous. You do like painting a dire picture of the world sometimes Satyr, don’t you?

And your "picture" is naïve and gullible.
The picture I paint is realistic. Reality is not kind, nor is it interested in your romantic idealism; reality is governed by power balances not emotions and altruism.
The US is not a benevolent power interested in saving mankind.
history is written by the victors who then demonize the vanquished. What you currently think is true about the wars is from the American vantage, propagated yearly in movies, through education, and the media.
Things are not as clean as you imagine them to be.
I’m not that naive 😏 a movie is a movie, not a historical fact.. unless it’s autobiographical, or a docu-drama.

America needs to start learning some benevolence.. a nation of selfish, ill-informed, smug etc. individuals, ain’t a good look in these current climes.

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MagsJ said: Will lockdown bankrupt most countries, and leave us in the hands of new lenders.. perhaps that’s the plan a’la WW1 and 2 stylee, but this time it won’t be America doing the lending. But perhaps it won’t come to that.

Every event is not a product of some plan, but every event becomes an excuse to further a plan.
In this case the Covid event - intentional or not - it is an opportunity to impose authoritarian rule on populations, and to rid a systems from their post-war baby-boomer excess, who are now entering old-age and will be draining state coffers.
Imagine the benefit of expunging a system's welfare recipients. Old and sick people that would have drained the economy are being eliminated in a matter of a few months...a couple of years.  
Indeed so.. societal housekeeping, on a global scale.

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MagsJ said: That was due to EU rule, that the Left signed our rights away to, to line their pockets from.. we have taken our rights back, if you hadn’t noticed.. it’s called Brexit.

Emerging Super-States are the future. Nation-States will become obsolete, just as city-states had to sacrifice their independence to a larger nation-state configuration if they hoped to survive.
Brits will soon be absorbed into another Super-State unity, through some form of free-trade agreement. It already is beginning to do so with anlgo-sphere nations, like Australia and the US because it knows that it has more in common with these Americanized anlgo-protestant multi-cultural, multi-ethnic states, for historical reasons - than it did with Europe.
The Atlantic alliance - NATO - was, is and will be, an American alliance, centered around the Atlantic - between Britain, Canada, and the US - it is a naval power.
Anglo-Saxon culture was destroyed by the Norse, and this they never forgot. This carried over to the American Civil War - see Heisman's "Suicide Note" - where retribution was won....and from then on Anglo-Protestants have been promoting liberalism and their brand of self-abnegation as a global ideal that will bring "peace on earth" - a repackaging of Christian salvation mythology.
Their American dominated liberal Super-State will be market driven, where identity and culture are products to be purchased.
Their past defeat at the hands of the Norse was turned into a world-wide messianic mission of defeating traditionalism they could not return to themselves.
Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand are all part of the core of the Anglo-sphere, where liberalism is advanced to a multi-cultural, multi-racial Super-State, absorbing whatever strays out on its own. Future lines are being drawn.
Read: The WASP Question, by Fraser, Andrew.
He goes into the reason why Anglo-Protestantrs around the world are committing cultural suicide, and promoting it as a progressive virtue all should emulate or be forced to surrender to - Americanism and its Liberalism project is Globalization in a nutshell.
It may suit mixed-breed individuals, like yourself, or individuals un-invested in the future, but it is another form of uniformity.
Just like mixed economies are good, some globalisation can be beneficial in aiding a more optimal global market place and ethic, but not too much, so as to de-delineate borders and boundaries and peoples.

I’m not a Liberal.. never have been, and being mixed/hybrid doesn’t mean that a full globalisation plan, would suit/be helpful to me.
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What is fundamental to this nihilism you describe is a lack of participation. Whole nations of slaves without any institution of slavery. Although we might call it an optical illusion to disjoin from the natural ecosystem.

They came forward to take part in a work, but they stood in witness against themselves, and put their own allowances before the judgements of history thus poisoning the whole enterprise.

Yet there is one there always who is a true participant.
He is dancing, dancing.
He says that he will never die.
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Yes, lack of participation in a shared reality independent from all subjectivity, followed by mass participation in a fabricated shared inter-subjective alternate reality.

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Will movie theatres ever reopen?

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No more luxury for the masses, Capital is being concentrated and reoriented for the purpose of transhumanism or something.
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I once read a sci-fi book about a hypothetical future world where everyone stayed home and communicated via projections.
To be in the same vicinity, physically, had become taboo.

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The kind of bike I had, back in the day.
Not the exact one, but almost exactly the same - even the colour.
It was my summer vacation bike....traveled all around Greece with it, when I used to visit almost every summer.

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What's insane to me is how people take heroin and meth when they can just take some hormones and train.
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I guess the "high" is more intense and long-lasting.
I never took hard drugs, can't say.
I did try pot and was a smoker of tobacco for decades until I quite cold-turkey over 20 years ago...but I've never been an addictive personality.

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After recent events...
I'm wondering what ethnicity 18 of the 25 top U.S. hedge fund managers are.
Never mind, someone posted it on Hyperborea...
Can't be...what?
Must be another strange coinkidence.

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Opioids : Pain

Meth : Powerlessness

Empathogens : Intimacy

Nicotine : Boredom

Psychedelic's : Religiosity

Doping : Natural Environment

Something like this I think, so maybe it was because you solved your boredom.

I do have an addictive personality, but laws of diminishing returns prevent me from becoming an addict.
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Would you of been a Roman or Hellenistic Greek in the revolution?

I'm guessing Roman, although the Russian connection could of been a problem.
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Religiosity = Metaphysical Karma
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I will admit my step-father is jewish and his father was in Auschwitz, but that dont make me no traitor. Pettiness is killing me, straightforward is righteous.
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Blondie wrote:
Opioids : Pain

Meth : Powerlessness

Empathogens : Intimacy

Nicotine : Boredom

Psychedelic's : Religiosity

Doping : Natural Environment

Something like this I think, so maybe it was because you solved your boredom.

I do have an addictive personality, but laws of diminishing returns prevent me from becoming an addict.

Never had issues with boredom....other than when I am with other people who force me to focus on their mundane interests.
Ironically, when I am alone I am never bored.

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Would you of been a Roman or Hellenistic Greek in the revolution?
Hellenistic Greek.

Blondie wrote:
I will admit my step-father is jewish and his father was in Auschwitz, but that dont make me no traitor. Pettiness is killing me, straightforward is righteous.
How unfortunate. My own family has its own share of war victims.
Jewish identity is inherited from the mother, is it not?
Truth knows no treachery.
You either see, and benefit, or you don't, and suffer the consequences. It is not truth that suffers, or affected in any way.
Was Heisman, or Weininger, or is Gilad Atzmon, or Schlomo Sand traitors because they spoke the truth?

Straightforward is a luxury not afforded to those who speak of truths that contradict conventional lies.
To those who repeat the lies, because they believe in them, or because they wish to remain safe, speaking "honestly" is about repeating common held lies.
They will love you for affirming what they secretly or intuitively doubt.
For a minority there is the wisdom that comes with age, learning that there are things one ought never to speak of in public, or out loud, among manimals and the invested.
Best to allude, or remain silent, which suits them just as well.

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As if people, especially women aren't suggestable. I don't buy the spiteful mutant thesis, evolution happens very gradually then suddenly vis a vi bottleneck events. How different are people really compared to before the black death. All this to say given enough effort modern values are turned ancient.

Whenever somebody confides gossip to me I just say tell this to their face or don't say it all. This anti-femininity yields great results.
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Blondie wrote:
As if people, especially women aren't suggestable. I don't buy the spiteful mutant thesis, evolution happens very gradually then suddenly vis a vi bottleneck events.
Your agreement is not necessary for it to be true.

What happens to a heard of deer, let's say, which is sheltered and allowed to reproduce indiscriminately; where they are helped to have offspring when they cannot, and so on?
What would happen if the primary predator is exterminated? What has man learned about naturalk balances?

Blondie wrote:
How different are people really compared to before the black death. All this to say given enough effort modern values are turned ancient.
We've had mass extermination events routinely, we call them wars...now we call them pandemics.
Both have occurred throughout history.

The white race dominated because it almost went extinct, during the Ice Age.
Mencken claims, and I agree with him, that the Renaissance was made possible because of the Black Plague...and by extension Jewish dominance of America was made possible, or accelerated by the Holocaust...and now it is returning back to pre-war balances.

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Whenever somebody confides gossip to me I just say tell this to their face or don't say it all. This anti-femininity yields great results.
Why would it be more wise to place yourself at risk than it would be to be prudent and only share with those who will understand and will not jump to idiotic conclusions?

Like, when I say races exist...what's the first thing you, or lets say some average fella, will think?
That I want to damage, harm, or exploit people of sub-Saharan descent - that I hate them.
What would they think if I express the logical opinion that women are different to men not only physically, but emotionally, psychologically, and that hormones affect all aspects of a human being's development, including their mind?
They would think I hate women, right...and that I am suggesting that women should be kept barefoot and pregnant, right?
Why would I want to engage in this repeated conflict, especially if it may have a negative repercussion in my private life - such as group retribution?

Most people have no interest in reality, they want a convenient and flattering/comforting lie to help them cope with reality; they fear and despise reality, and want to overturn and replace it, if and when possible.
That's why ideologies that propose some kind of nihilism are popular, and as spiteful mutants increase so does the popularity of left leaning ideologies and nihilistic spiritual dogmas.
Most people want to survive, not to know existence, and if being simple and ignorant and stupid helps in that direction then that is what they will be, and be proud of it
For the majority anyone who speaks the truth is telling them a subjective preference that threatens their well-being...and they consider it a personal threat, because in their mind all is subjective and there is no objective reality.

It takes a particular kind of psychology to place truth - awareness and understanding - above survival - to strive to be as objective as possible is the philosophical acumen.

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And in Greece? This is obviously not for Taiwanese people.
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A virus knows no borders.

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Satyr wrote:
A virus knows no borders.

Except its own.

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Yes...a gene-based parasite - natural - has physical and time/space limits, whereas manmade, or artificial meme-based parasites are limited by semiotics - they cannot infect what cannot understand or be affected by symbols, i.e., language, or the particular kind of languages it use to infect and spread.

Self-preservation is its outer skin, its boundary. To parasitize it must remain true to itself - its programming has to be preserved.

The kind of parasite I am talking about must appropriate and be changed by the host it wants to integrate within, but, at the same time, it must remain true to its own reproductive and survival strategies because for it survival is primary, even at the cost of individuality.

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Feels like -6C tho Neutral not sure what that is in Fahrenheit.. after looking it up: 30F

Has lockdown started to halt and/or reverse the global warming process and Continental winds? it would seem so, but I don’t think it will get anymore much-colder than this.

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I heard the ozone hole has completely closed, since covid started.

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I heard the ozone hole has completely closed, since covid started.
Greta will be pleased..

Check-out my icicles.. lol.

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