Desperate Degenerates

Scratch the surface of most of these post moderns, and their all-inclusive universalism, and you will find a trauma having to do with abandonment - usually concerning a parent, most often a father.
In these times of emasculation - Feminization of Man - father figures are either absent or impotent.

A side-effect of modernism/postmodernism and its Marxism, Feminism....connected to Abrahamism.
The Old & New Testaments are full of anti-masculinity, anti-faily messages, concealed in allegories.
How the Abrahamic triad: Judaism/Christianity/Islam, became associated with family values, requires unpacking.
In all three it isn't the male - biological male - that is head of his household, but god - abstracted male.
See Abraham's narrative.
See Jesus' narrative.

When a crazy leaves the crazy house he's convinced that he's leaving insanity behind when, in fact, he's taking hit with him to another place to be crazy in and reduce it down to his insanity.

It takes one minute to destroy beautiful cave stalagmites that rook centuries to form, one child in a group to reduce it down to infantilism, and it takes one degenerate to degenerate any get-togehter down to an adjusted lowest-common-denominator.

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A Desperate Degenerate flees himself, by moving into new territories, new areas that have not been infected, pulling it down to his level he then flees, once more, blaming some other factor for the state that seems to follow him around.
This is also part of his selectively skeptical subjectivity - rejecting all erroneous judgements as a product of social power balances - his rejection of identity and free-will - code for personal responsibility - and his lack of self-awarness - having "overcome" the very idea of self. Unable to identify the cause he finds divine and/or universal causes - always in other - when it is he who is the cause for an effect he cannot entirely understand.
He brings it all down around him, and then walks off in dismay at the world's condition - as if an invisible curse follows him like a dark cloud from one place to another.
He cannot escape his fate - the cause - because he is the cause.
He cannot escape his fate – the cause – because he is the cause.
How can he hope to change what he fails to identify? How can he overcome what has been rejected as illusory? How can he be an agency of potent change when he’s declared himself impotent?
All that’s left to him is to wallow in the misery of being born into a sorry state, only desiring to find relief in miserable companionship.

There's a popular school of "emoting" let's humour them and call it "thinking, that proposes the idea of parity of ideas, or perspectives, no matter how idiotic or absurd they might be.
But this contrasts with the western school of reasoning which proposes an idea be evaluated on tis merits and its merits will determine how much seriousness will be allotted.
If this wasn't the case then no progress would have ever been made in any field, and mankind would be "trapped" in a mind-hole of idiocy, and of its own making.
We can't take the musings of men-children, or actual children, are requiring equal attention, equal respect, as those of an adult mind.
Morons of the postmodern ilk, call this "fascism", or "Nazism" or objectivism, or authoritarianism...or whatever victim implying moniker they use to imply their victimization and demand to be taken seriously, no matter what crap they spill out of their trap.
The men-children, who never grow up until death, disregard the scientific method which contradicts their demand for equal respect.
and this is what "merit" is about. it ain't about imposing one's personal tastes or preferences, but it is about using a independent standard to evaluate the quality of a perspective - the percentage of its probability so that we can avoid talking about infantile crap, ad infinitum, until death do us part - as they do in most on-line "philosophy forums".
What is this independent standard we might use?
Well, in science they call it "empiricism", and since science is - or has proven to be over the centuries - a useful outcrop of philosophy we can adopt it as a starting point and work upward - from the ground up, from the physical towards the metaphysical.
Now, most of the lying cunts want to maintain all concepts that threaten their desired objective on an ideological or a metaphysical level, so they make all such concepts - represented by words - as nothing more than words referring not to empirical stadards but to ....more words, e.g., books, scripture, abstractions.
They insist and desperately wish to keep all such threatening concepts on an ideological plane.....never, ever, ever, reconnecting them to reality, or perceived, an apparent, empirical, world.
Most of these morons are - as was states - predominately recovering Abrahamics - that have not entirely recovered their mental health - or Marxists - finding a ideological equivalent to the exact same superstitious idiocy their earlier, younger, self became so infatuated with.
We never forget our "first love" so these morons just can't let go of the memory of the first nihilistic dogma that gave them such emotional and psychological relief - pleasure. They just can;'t let go of the memory of all those 'good tidings' and promises of good times.
They are obsessed...mesmerized.../addicted.
Many are addictive personalities, and addicts need a replacement vice to let go of another.
There's no "going clean and sober" afterward. Impossible.
Jails are full of born again" Christians and Muslims that have "seen the light" and have converted to the "true faith".
Once you've tasted artificial joy, or reality or whatever, the real deal just isn't enough - especially in western, Americanised, sheltering systems.
There's no recovery, only a replacement form a more self-destructive mind-drug to a less destructive one.
And this is where these degenerates are trapped.....a mind hole, of their own making.
A trap they set for themselves, a hole they dug for themselves, to imitate a womb they want to crawl back into.
What's that joke about men crawling out of a vagina and then spending their entire lives trying to get back in?

Now we know what primal impulses feminization of man is based on - not like the self-mutilated one, Freud, claimed, but back before sex ever evolved - death drive. A secret desire to return to a state of unconscious existing.....you know how it enveloped into the living dead, zombies....to be alive but, yet, dead.....cowards love this dichotomy and they'll employ all paradoxes to preserve this one.
To be alive...and yet dead; to be willing and yet unwilling; to be powerful and free in you powerless state of determinism; to be masculine in a feminine way; to be immaturely mature; to be irrationally rational.
How?
This is the magical trick.
There are no absolutes so nobody knows everything, ergo, anything is possible, no matter how improbable.
This absence is their way out of the intellectual corner they intentionally trapped themselves in.

"Skepticism" they call it, to pretend they are open-minded free-spirits that respect all possibilities, including the absurd - except Nazi shit. They have emotional lines they will not cross.
They remain fashionably skeptical about the earth's roundness, gravity, out of Africa theory, because this makes them feel superior and still open-minded and altruistic.
Sure it's stupid, but it's also so cute, if you think about it.
Like a buffet of ideas we can sample. Nothing can be disgusting, and be excluded from the table. It'll ruin the dining experience.
It's all about experiences.
A bit of idiocy here - just a taste - then some degeneracy there; a bit of vomit and faeces here, next to the chicken and pork, some urine next to the fine wine...a cornucopia of ideas they can sample.
Never leave anything out.
Intellectual gluttony, usually accompanied by some kind of physical insecurity - compensating with quantity what is lacking in quality.
More is Better....fuck "Less is More". I'll endure the smell of shit in my dining expriences if I can sample from every dish a little bit....
A bit here...then a bit there....A bit now...and a bit later.
Die as if I've tasted all that reality has to offer.

Taste?
Subjective.
Art?
Subjective?
Beauty?
Subjective.

This way whatever I get it'll be fantastic.
Nobody loses.
No errors. No mistakes of judgment....all is the same.
All is one.
Diversity is an illusion....the strength of oneness.
Discrimination is the evil.
There's no difference, fuck, eat, drink it all....in equal measure.
The only criterion?
Pleasure.

Back to the manimal., on our way back to the animal - eternal return.

You can't discuss anything with a desperate degenerate.
His motive is not like yours.
His objective is contrary to yours.

You seek clarity - he seeks confusion, obscurity.
You seek truth - he uses lies to escape it.
You seek an approach to reality - he seeks an alternative to it.

All he has is language.
His language is vacuous and meaningless, and so he will desperately try to convince you that yours is, as well.
Multiplicity is his enemy.
He speaks of diversity but he means uniformity underlying this diversity.
Whether it be named one or nil, the singularity is his objective.
He hates himself and others...but he will claim to love.

His words refer to other words....and so he must convince you that yours do, as well.

He fears and therefore despises action - existence, nature...himself....anything dynamic and energetic and changing.
So, he will reduce it all to inert, static abstractions, represented by hollow words - his surface love of existence underlies a singular negation; an idea that contradicts it.
He dreams of "correcting" what he claims to love, and finds followers that want the same, but differently, but don't know how to hide their motives. They learn form him how to manipulate words to pretend to be one thing, while thinking a second, and doing a third.
Usually using flowery words, full of spectacular promises and feigned profound depths of insight, to conceal his shallow intents.

Subversion is the chosen method of all desperate degenerates.
They have no reasoning, no rational, no logic, no evidence, so they try to compensate for this lack by undermining the oppositions, or the alternatives, reasoning, logic and rational.
They have no evidence and o convincing arguments so they try to compensate by undermining the alternative's arguments and the oppositions confidence in its own evidence.

Postmodernism uses language to seed confusion and doubt, justifying their underhanded methods by claiming to be rational skepticism.
They lie.
Their skepticism is selective or it is absolute.  
They equally doubt everything so as to not be exposed by their selective use of skepticism.
They refuse to define the terms they use so that their idealistic objectives and simplistic, defensive, primal motives are not revealed.

Unable to create they destroy; unable to construct they deconstruct.
Their strategy is psychological and intellectual subversion - causing universal self-doubt, confusion, leading to desperation and degeneracy - the foundations of revolution.
When a mind is pushed to its psychological limits it abandons reason, logic, and grasps at anything offering it hope, a way out.
Neo-Marxists realized that their delusional utopias were unrealistic, unrealizable, so they cultivated desperation in the masses that had failed to rise up against their "oppressors and exploiters", working with their "enemies"
to create more poverty, more suffering, pushing the unreliable masses to their breaking point.

They failed, again.

Now they have adapted and are using a different course.
Instead of undermining capitalisms, the establishments, economy they will undermine its psychology, its identity, is contact with reality.

This is the classic effect of parasitism, i.e., zombification.
Infect a host, infiltrate its institutions, its nervous system, hijacking it from the inside, methodically disconnecting it from its environment, from reality, from itself.
Only in unreality could they hope to fabricate their ideal state.
So they deny the existence of an objective world so as to create the subjective dispositions necessary for their fantasy worlds to become possible.

The basic trait of a nihilist is his dishonesty.
His deceitful nature.
His hypocrisy.

He can't admit to why he wants to change the world in the way he does, and so he has to conceal it beneath moral arguments, or moral denouncements, since amorality is a moral stance.
He is, at heart, a child. A naïve, idealistic man-child, with dreams of how the world ought to be, if only...
He can't come out and admit that he doesn't like himself and existence, or that he is unable to cope with the world, so he must project his feelings as accusations, as nullifying declarations...as a state of terminal rejection, housed on pseudo-philosophical mind-games...using words as women do: to psychologically undermine and manipulate what she cannot confront directly and openly.

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Hypocrisy - starting with self-deceit - is the primary trait of desperate degeneracy.
Discussing anything with such psychotics is an exercise in patience - discussing with someone in bad faith, using projections to accuse another of what he, fears, he is most guilty of; willing to be irrational - anti-philosohical - to preserve his naïve idealism; placing the objective before and above all.
Pretention is how such psychotics overcompensate for what they sense as being their vulnerably - a need/desire that usurps all other considerations. But he's accuse you of it, first, so as to disarm and to conceal his secret.
The objective is always to "change the world" so that it accommodates their personal - subjective - needs/desires.
"For the better".
This is in-line with their Abrahamic messianism, and revolutionary spirit.
Heal the world - "return" it to a state of perfection, in the past.

Their motive prevents all objectivity from affecting them - they fear most being seen by another; seen as who and what they are - willing to deny self, altogether, simply to not be seen, or to reject all evaluations - dismiss all judgements as nothing more than subjective and, therefore, equal to any other, except one's own.
They must absolutely deny objectivity so as to conceal their own subjective motives - accusing all of being equally subjective and power hungry; deny it so as to not expose their quality of mind through their personal error judgments.
I mean, this also explains why they deny free-will...not partially, but absolutely, completely, emphatically - only offering skeptical rhetoric to pretend to be objective, while refusing to accept objectivity as being possible.

Their method is learned and come from Abrahamism.
Undermining, subverting...psychological manipulation, feminine.
Hearsay, what is heard - herd - what someone wrote...words referring to words...they need all to remain within these premises.
Consequences do not mater...'cause it's all subjective, right.
Bad consequence?
Well, you can spin them to good, or dismiss it as inevitable. they are not responsible for the negative, only the positive, which they reluctantly abandon to remain innocent of the negative.
Plausible deniability.

They are, most often collectivists, in the Communist sense....insisting that the collective must share in the negative, so as to allow the individual to enjoy the positive - so share the negative consequences of their delusions, so that they are never forced to change or adapt, their own thinking, their own convictions, their own self-agradizing delusions; protecting their ego so that it never has to face its inherited quality.
From economic redistributions to moral redistributions.
The first failed, they hope the second - because it is more in-line with Abrahamic ethics - will succeed.
revolution until their Utopia is established, and then, they will rebel against it.
Their inner turmoil can never be content - they need an enemy to fight because it is being victimized, oppressed, exploited,  wronged - it also serves as the perfect excuse for their many failures.
Unloading personal failings upon a hated other.
They never change - repeating the same errors - because they never accept responsibility - there is no error...all is right, no! all is wrong.
Nobody can ever be right, so let us compromise and settle upon a mutually beneficial mistake.
Nil is God.

To simplify for the retards:
Desperate Degenerates either insist they are absolutely right and you are absolutely wrong, or, when they realize this ain't working for them, they retreat to admitting they are absolutely wrong, but so are you.
The "you are absolutely wrong" remains constant. What changes is a humiliating awakening to their own gullibility, which they must excuse as being inevitable - it could not have been any other way.
Well, it's genetic, so, even in this they are only partially correct....adjusted:
It is most probable that they could not have been any other way - they could not have chosen otherwise - and their refusal to accept responsibility multiplies the probability factor of them being trapped in their own, genetically inherited, mental, spiritual feebleness.

Isn't it typical that these hypocritical liars create philosophical issues using words they can neither define nor describe?
"Woman" is but an example.
They intentionally create confusion where none exists, so as to undermine and then make their own naïve delusions more palatable.

I described this desperation tuning to emotional hysterics as a way of dealing with their repeated failures, in regards to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
Having failed to produce their desired effect then turn to opportunistic subversion and when that makes little impact they turn to total undermining, dreaming of bringing the entire edifice down, since they cannot "change it to suit their ideological delusions" - rooted in deep, deep psychological feebleness.

Their entire "philosophy - which is nothing other than a dogma - is founded on words, representing emotional defensiveness...and so they project this as a universal truth.
They fabricate philosophical issues, and then level all responses down to a uniform nil.

There are no acceptable hierarchies, and so there can never be higher and lower possibilities - indicating a range of probabilities - only either/or....god/Satan, good/evil...binaries.
I've explained this before....if not a one-god then no-god will be tolerated.
If not an absolute truth then an absolute lie, will suffice.

In this they show their anti-Hellenic, Abrahamic psychosis.
If not salvation then damnation.
There are no degrees...as in science.
Equality via the absolute....their one and only God is replaced by a one and only void.
They think void refers to non-existence; they think chaos refers to non-existence....they always dream of non-existence.....because this is the source of their feebleness....their occult desire.

Projecting self-rejection, relf-denial, self-anihilation as a universal truth, concealed behind skepticism they accept nothing - literally - that stands in the way of this secret objective.
They desperately hang only the "thing" so as to then negate it and feel like they've transcended and "matured" when they are still strapped in the same paradigm: Abrahamic superstitions.

Ha!!!

Desperate Degenerates get stuck on some concepts, seeing in them an opportunity to exploit so as to undermine and subvert.
they don't give a shit about clarifying or creating the highest, all they want is to obscure, cloud, conceal, so as to reduce all to the lowest.
They become obsessed with these concepts, and they cannot even explain them or justify them, refusing to define the terms they obsess over.
That's the point. It doesn't matter because nobody - according to these psychotics - can ever be wrong, when everyone is made to feel wrong.
Parity in and through the Nil.
Couldn't achieve parity through the one, so the Nil will do. it is more promising, since it is, literally, nothing - the absolute negative where all find communion and equality.
Like Dasien, and its use by that imbecile on ILP. A feminine, castrated moron that indulges in pseudo-intellectualism, pretending to be philosophical when she is anti-philosophy - her goal is to subvert philosophy because it stands in the way of her chosen ideology - her Marxist Utopia where nobody suffers and nobody goes hungry; her world-healing objective - projecting this as an accusation on anyone who stands in her way.
This moron parrots the same shit....these days its the "why is there something and not nothing." over and over...then drops a Dasein in the mix, whenever she wants to insinuate integrity and adherence to conventional thinking - refusing to even attempt to define how she understands the word, because this would expose her infantile motives and the feminine word-games she was trained to use as a way of bringing about her Communist Utopia.
Where does a conversation lead when everyone sued undefined terms? No-where....nothing.
Goal accomplished.
She repeats it hoping this will achieve her goal of reducing confidence to make her idiotic naïve goals realizable, because she knows she cannot justify them rationally.
I mean a world where nobody suffers, and all wars end, is a child's fantasy....some outgrow it, others cannot.
They are stuck in their infancy, refusing to grow up....some unable to take the step.

What does this woman imply by the not so "innocent" question, begging, supposedly, for a solution to take her out of her self-imposed, deliberate, mental quagmire?
It implies a creator. She's stuck in Abrahamic cosmogony, though she's convinced that she's advanced, transcended that narrative.
But she hasn't....she slips back into the same hole, and doesn't truly want to escape it - her tomb, like a warm womb, full of amniotic fluid.
She doesn't want to be born. She wishes she were aborted before she came out.

A conscious, intentional Agency must have created the world out of nothing, like it says in the Bible - a parent.....a father or, more accurately. A soft-spoken, forgiving, mother.
There's no intellectual complexity here, asking how no-thing - which is what existence is; not a thing - becomes a some-thing, in consciousness?
This is not the question. The real question presupposes what it cannot justify.
It asks a insinuating question, where the answer is already present.
Like :"Why was your mother a whore?"
What is implied, though never openly admitted is that there was non-existence, and then, suddenly, from nowhere, there was existence.
The bitch wants to know why....how.....out of nothing out of non-existence, existence emerges.
This is what this imbecile implies.
This hypocrite is asking for evidence of an error, an absurdity.....she's already assumed that existence comes after non-existence....and non-existence preceded existence, begging the question:
Who or what created it? More importantly why? A reason, a motive.
and if not god, creator, then man creator.
All this hypocrisy to validate her nihilism....demanding that all give up their opinions and gather, like sheeple, to discuss shared compromises.
This equates her idiotic, naïve idealism with every other idealism, without her having to prove anything - all she does it subvert confidence....trust on one's own senses....one's own mind to then surrender it to the hive-mind - Communion.
It's all equally wrong, you see?
Why?
Well, because nobody is omniscient ...so nobody knows anything for certain....this is the key, certainty.
Where there is doubt, this hypocritical skeptic, perceives a fissure to exploit, and convert her idiocy into a plausible alternative - just as possible as any other.
Shifting the criteria from rational to emotional.
Nobody can prove anything absolutely, so anything is possible, from the ridiculous to the rational.
Her goal is to undermine confidence, creating the environment for her naïve idealism, which she cannot argue for, to suddenly become just as plausible as any other....and then be chosen by the masses of men-children according to how an opinion makes them feel.
We're in the feminine domain - Feminization of Man.

This postmodern bullshyte is straight out of the Communist playbook, and its progressive opportunism.
As I've said, when communism failed, repeatedly, many of their intelligentsia became disillusioned, but instead of changing their opinions, they insisted or reshaping their methods...so instead of inciting revolution, directly, they began participating in the capitalists institutions in order to increase suffering and poverty among those they pretended to care about.
They believed that if they reduce the manimals - proletariat - to a state of total debauchery, disillusion, desperation, confusion, then, finally, they could step in, like good shepherds and lead them to their slaughter.  
This woman, on ILP, is doing exactly the same thing.
Her goal is to destroy confidence - undermine all opinions, all judgements, so as to create such desperation that she can then step in and offer her help, her guidance.
The question:
"Why is there something and not nothing"? serves this purpose, starting from the presumption that the world emerged out of nowhere and nothing....non-existence.
Even Heidegger's Dasien - being there, thrown into existence - is perceived as being thrown into existence out of nowhere and nothing, as an innocent clean slate....a nil...to be socially manipulated into a something.
A very Abrahamic world-view...contrasting with the Indo-European world view that defined the void, abyss, chaos, as not non-existence, but as a state where no-thing is possible....and why?
Because there are no patterns to be interpreted as "things" by a conscious mind.
'Thing,' refers to a mental abstraction - an interpretation of processes...dynamic, interactive, energy.....but the mind can only interpret what has a pattern - is ordered - and cannot that which lacks order...so it interprets this as void, darkness, abyss...chaos.

Now, it is also true that complex patterns that cannot be processed or perceived - because species consciousness falls within a naturally selected perceptual range - is also interpreted as void, darkness...ergo space is mostly dark and void of matter/energy....but is it so empty? It has a measurable temperature.
This fact confuses moderns and they assume that chaos refers to complexity, demanding that the cosmos be absolutely ordered....so as to replace the one-god of their childhood.
They need to believe that there is always an occult order, which men cannot perceive or understand.
The alternative is terrifying.
This is why they reject free-will...they cannot tolerate an existence without a god, an absolute, totalitarian, authority, that determines all, including their every act, their every choice...making their suffering rational.
Having dismissed Abrahamic salvation they demand a replacement - calling it freedom...they want no part in freedom. They want salvation from any hint of freedom.
They want a deus machina.
Otherwise, they are partially responsible for everything that happens - they participate in causality and are not its "victims"....they are not innocent.

Anti-philosophy philosophy, promoting the reality of unreality, by undermining the idea that there is a real world.
Where philosophy is concerned with reality, these anti-philoosphers only care about destroying the very idea of a reality.

To put it otherwise: the truth of no truth, allows the idea that truth is a construct, and can be anything.
The morality of amorality, is another variant of the same subversive spirit, inspired by the spiritual source of this, which has discovered a way of increasing exploitative targets by selling what they will never buy: say one thing; think a second; do a third.
Wordsmiths, the art of the sale - using language to soften up resistance.
Why feminine?
Because the female, due to her reproductive role, is most dependent on the group, and so evolves the ability to read social dynamics and the tools to manipulate them.
The male is usually outwardly focused; the female inwardly focused.
Language is the only weapon a female can easily use to destroy her adversaries - destroy them from the inside out; destroy them psychologically.

This is the neo-Marxist strategy.
Destroy the psychology of the masses - render them helpless seeking help; hopeless seeking hope.
Soften up the masses by chipping away at their sense of identity, their confidence, their trust.
Make them malleable soft putty to be moulded.
This is postmodernism and its deconstructionism.
Destroy language - the mediator between mind and world.
Destroy family, the mediator between an individual and the social group.

Create lost, hungry, zombies....reactive automatons, with no past (nature), no culture, no sense of self, such zombies can then be easily herded and exploited.

When I proposed and debated the Free Will argument on ILP, against Silhouette and Detrop, I quickly realized that their lack of faith and belief in Free Will comes from a genuinely honest self-assessment. They don't believe in Free Will; because they are Not free. They are not "Free Thinkers", and don't even hope to believe. Furthermore, they believe that any degree of "free will" must be a deception, fakery, and lie. They cannot imagine Freedom, because it is Antithetical to their core premises and world-view, their Metaphysics.

Thus their minds are thoroughly Constrained, by parameters they admit that they don't understand. Pride plays a big part of this. When you are not Humble, when you cannot Empathize, then you cannot consider a "higher power" than yourself, you cannot imagine a higher intellect. Like a child, that cannot imagine the power his or parent wields over them. But here is the Rub. This is the mindset of a Child, an irresponsible outlook. It is not the mindset of an Adult, who has real-world responsibilities.

Responsibility, children, the future, all of these 'Conservative' values, quickly slam the door shut on the face of liberalistic, childish minds. Responsibility demonstrates the difference between Freedom and Delusion. You are delusional if you believe that you can go through life with the eternal privilege and innocence of a Child, or worse, that you 'Deserve' such a protection and identity longer than Adolescence.

Simply-put, the Delusional mind is a Childish mind, that refuses to grow up, and refuses to confront or anything remotely connected with 'Reality'. Thus they deny Reality from the Axiom, onset, A Priori, and they have no intention of "imagining" a "real world". Because that would immediately destroy their Emotionally-laden "rationality" and put it into a realm where.....errors have intended and unintended consequences.


That you must pay a price for Delusion mixed into Reality.

Æon wrote:

When I proposed and debated the Free Will argument on ILP, against Silhouette and Detrop, I quickly realized that their lack of faith and belief in Free Will comes from a genuinely honest self-assessment.  They don't believe in Free Will; because they are Not free.  They are not "Free Thinkers", and don't even hope to believe.  Furthermore, they believe that any degree of "free will" must be a deception, fakery, and lie.  They cannot imagine Freedom, because it is Antithetical to their core premises and world-view, their Metaphysics.

Belief, for them has to do with faith.
Faith in their own fate, is how they abandon themselves to circumstances - causality - to the "moment".
They desperately want to live in the moment, without a care about the future nor memory of the past - a reversion to the state of manimal.

They've lost trust in their own eyes, in their own judgements, expressed through a lifetime of poor choices.
They went from one wrong decision to another. Some surrender to mentors and/or experts.
But their ego cannot stomach being inferior, so they must reduce all to the lowest-common-denominator.
Marxism was such a reduction - deconstruction, finding the lowest common point of parity.
After a lifetime of disillusionment they must believe that there are no errors in judgement, so as to not hold themselves accountable. They must blame something or someone else; they must be victims of some evil external agency.
They engage in compartmentalization - schizoid - thinking, using different standards for different circumstances - they call this subjectivity.
So, when god/Satan became too infantile they discovered capitalists and the proletariat, to remain victims of some external power.
There they used schizoid emoting to claim innocence while using another standard to accuse others of intentional evil.

They claim that they could not have done anything to change their fate, and then accuse the state, judges, police of having an option to act otherwise; or they could use determinism to evade culpability and then accuse another of having the choice to do otherwise, like letting them post on KTS, and turn it into another ILP and soon PN.
If all is determined how is it not determined that I would deny them access? If they are innocent of all their choices then why am I not innocent?

Like Harris said...regret is why he rejects free-will. He wants to protect people from the suffering of regret.
Regret, accepting responsibility so as to then change yourself, your judgements, your choices...resulting in different consequences.
If you can't, then it is truly an 'eternal return of the same'.
Will transsexuals who chopped off their breasts or peni sic, regret their decision in the future?
Nope...not if they remain true to postmodern Abrahamism. It was god's will, or, it was inevitable....universal order, fate.
They will accuse others of fooling them, perhaps...and will try to deny any personal responsibility in the outcome.

You see, nobody can ever be wrong, because that implies a superior judgement, and the worse thing for a modern is to be seen by another as what he/she is and not as he/she pretends to be - a side-effect of self-consciuosnes. Man's additional source of suffering - objectivity
The growing realization that another can know you better than you can know yourself.
A sense of insecurity, vulnerability, inferiority forces the ego to adopt nihilism as a defence.

I don't necessarily put hope in any type of "solution" to these Desperate Degenerates, but if forced to, I would point to Paternalism.

The common thread there seems to be in a Bastardized society, a society whose Fathers and Patrilineage has been attacked, corrupted, and essentially destroyed.  Because who is it that brings-up children, raises and Nurtures them, to a sense of Responsibility, Accountability, and general Morality other than the Father?  Do mothers and women facilitate this?  Certainly not, simply take any woman as an example and it's obviously rare at best, or never the case, that average women have a deep sense of Account-of-Oneself.  Gender is a primary account of this differentiation of task, that, Woman is the "Privileged" gender, and thus can depend upon men ("cuckolds and simps"), or "The System" itself (government), to always swoop-in and 'Save' a woman from her own Victimhood.

We have here an Eternal Victimhood, as the 'privileged' class.  And such Victims (like Silhouette and Detrop) become addicted to these, mentally, philosophically, as a Salve and replacement for a Patrilineage that they cannot account for, or empathize with, because it was Lacking in their own lifetimes.  That, a father is necessary to teach/Nurture the child "how to" become Responsible, and value Adulthood, and enforce a regiment dedicated to Harsh Reality (Austerity) within Postmodern Environments (Abundant) where austerity is strictly relegated and 'removed' from the equation.

Thus, in the Postmodern Globalist politics, Americanized, you will not experience Austerity unless you contradict, indirectly or directly challenge the Ruling Party and self-proclaimed "Elites", then all rules are off and you must take account not only of your own actions, but those of others, and especially of all the assigned Victims to which you are personally responsible for Victimizing, and of course, Truth be damned.  Then, you are a "Colonizer" and "Oppressor" class, that can never hope to be forgiven, redeemed, or righted.  In this manner, the Marxists have an ideology exactly-opposite of the "politically incorrect".

That is why, also, Jordan Peterson, despite his many failings and weaknesses (like his public displays of emotion), has become a figure attacked by the liberal-left-marxist, because he represents an overwhelming demand for any type of 'Fatherhood' or 'Paternis', craved by the average Western male. A Surrogate Father, for the wanting masses.

Ironically this is an attribute that Peterson either cannot explain, or will not on account of what it entails and directly means, through political incorrectness.

We'll add that to his refusal to delve into Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work....but remains on the surface to attack Marxism, because Marxism is Christianity's competitor - secular variant of spiritual nihilism.

They insist that you "change your mind" because they have no reasoning, no arguments, to convince you to even begin to doubt your opinions.
Instead they try to undercut your confidence, in your own eyes, your own words, your own judgements.

They insist that you must change your mind, just because that's what people with moral integrity do - its what good people do - humble people, nice people. They accept their sinfulness, their inferiority, their lack of omnipotence, before the all determining deus/universe.
They simply change their minds, without reason, and because nobody is omniscient, admitting weakness. That which unites us all.
A moron and a genius are equally wrong - erasing all intellectual hierarchies.

Absolutist either/or.
No gradations, no refinement, no degrees of probability - absolutes: certainty/uncertainty, knowledge/ignorance, omnipotent/impotent,
Master/Slave.
All ought to be slaves, and as salves unite and come to mutually beneficial compromises.
No objectivity.
Marxist morality.
Imbeciles of the world Unite!!!

Detrop was more honest with his deception and intentions.

He was forced to admit, numerous times, that his Marxist/Communist ambitions were a Grift, because "that's what the system is". There's a half-truth to that. He projected that his own Dishonest intentions were that of the political system that he uses as Compensation. But, due to his intellectual limitations, he never understood that he was/is essentially "settling for less".

These Degenerate types, like Smears, eventually fall into a logical, rhetorical, and rational trap. They admit that they are Grifters, are proud of their Grifting, but then cannot account for the discrepancies in the systems they defend—while simultaneously denying "Free Will" and defending Determinism. So it's essentially speaking out of both sides of their mouths, and then conveniently denying the obvious, if and when they're ever caught red-handed.

Earlier I mentioned Paternalism, and how a poor fatherhood/nurturing/male-guidance is connected with these types. But there is also the intellectual limitation, in addition to the moral limitation.

While it is true that Governments, historically, practice dishonesty, deception, propaganda, and the like, that doesn't mean that Morality does not or cannot exist, or that there are vastly different responses to a life of moral accountability and responsibility, versus those who only act in their own self-interests, selfishly, indefinitely. The difference is a matter of Honesty, and how much a person can share with others, before their (self) Deceptions are ultimately discovered.

In the realm of Philosophy, a person will not get far while trying to, endlessly, hide such discrepancies and deceptions. These are found-out rather quickly, in fact, from cross-examination and extended debates. Most fools are Proud of their ignorance, and admit it outright. Such is the case, regarding the "Free Will" debate. The slave has no interest, at all, in pretending that people are "Free" when s/he absolutely believes otherwise. Perhaps they simply don't have the Intellect to Lie that sophisticatedly...

Since that's true, they also admit to being "victims" of Propaganda, and it is why and how sophisticated forms of Propaganda work so devastatingly.

For example, with this Transphobia propaganda, Western children and preschoolers are forced to repeat that a "Transwoman is a woman", or "What is a Woman", as a means of immediate Self-Deception. This is a Demoralization attempt.

If children are forced to Lie about the obvious, then, as Peterson correctly points-out, Western Society is done for it. It is rotted to the core, and there's no way out but down, until systems fail one-by-one. It seems that has already started happening.

Societies that immersed in Lies ("Empire of Lies"), cannot reverse, and only go further down the spiral.


In fact, this might be perhaps how Abrahamic Christendom began in Græco-Rome. Since the Centralized Church was forced into deeper and deeper Lies ("resurrection of Christ"), there was no outlet or release except to cover-up and bury obvious Lies with even more fragrant, vicious, violent Lies. Which then created Islam, and forced Crusades and "Holy Wars" into the Israel and the Middle East.

Philosophy is an Anathema, a bastion of inquiry of Truth, in otherwise corrupted and rotten societies that are forced to drink and guzzle Lies.

Æon wrote:

Detrop was more honest with his deception and intentions.

Superficially...
He denies free-will and then accuses the pawlice and the judges of doing him wrong.
A contradiction.
How can he accuse others of exploiting and wronging him, while claiming that he could not have chosen to do anything differently?
How can there be victimizers and victims if there is no free-will?
This alludes to those born to be 'evil' and those born to be 'good' - chosen. Divine selection.

Æon wrote:

He was forced to admit, numerous times, that his Marxist/Communist ambitions were a Grift, because "that's what the system is".  There's a half-truth to that.  He projected that his own Dishonest intentions were that of the political system that he uses as Compensation.  But, due to his intellectual limitations, he never understood that he was/is essentially "settling for less".

This is an adoption of Communism's adaptation to its continuous failures - Communists became opportunistic, abandoning their pretences that they are compassionate towards the suffering masses and only motivated in their well-being, and adopting a more Nieatzchean "will to power" using the masses as a pretext and a proxy to undermine the system so as to rise within  its hierarchy - this is a form of exploiting the proletariat.
Communists abandoned their war on "exploitation" and decided to exploit the same herd, from a different angle, viz., emotionally, ideologically, because they could not materially, monetarily.

Æon wrote:

These Degenerate types, like Smears, eventually fall into a logical, rhetorical, and rational trap.  They admit that they are Grifters, are proud of their Grifting, but then cannot account for the discrepancies in the systems they defend—while simultaneously denying "Free Will" and defending Determinism.  So it's essentially speaking out of both sides of their mouths, and then conveniently denying the obvious, if and when they're ever caught red-handed.

I don't think shit-stain ever denied free-will. He doesn't care about such issues.
His motive is to show himself off as gifted, as valuable, and grifting is his talent.
He becomes part of the systemic exploiters, and not the exploited.
He rises above the herd, as a predator....scavenger, to be more precise.
He exploits and manipulates imbeciles - of which the US can supply an endless amount - and came to philosophy to deal with his secret psychological issues, having to do with an absence of a father-figure.
But he found nothing there to help him, so he dismissed philosophy as useless, other than as a tool.
He adopted the whigger character as the prevalent American source of hypermasculine idols, overcompensating for a severely traumatic absence.
As I've noted....when father-figures are eliminated - degraded or entirely taken out of the picture (war on European paternalism), young males can only turn to the markets to find what is missing in their lives.
In the American culture-of-no-culture primal. Americanized African culture sells - it feeds the lowest impulses, the only place Americans feel a unifying sense of communion.
Usually adopting self-handicapping - in the form of maternalism and hedonism - to signal their social value. But such shallow pretences leave them unsatisfied, and they wonder why they cannot find peace, they turn to self-medication.
Bragging and posturing seeks approval from the same sources they purchased and adopted their social identity; the character/caricature concealing their personae; their public face.

Such men-children fail to find in philosophy what they are desperately in need of, because there is nobody present to decipher and help them convert knowledge to understanding. They cannot go through the rites of passage from boyhood into manhood, so they remain stunted, i.e., men-children. They usually dismiss philosophy as useless, other than as a pretentious tool for display - similar to how the nouveau riche purchase art, without truly appreciating or having any real interest in it, outside the image it helps them construct.

the "good man", the "pious mind", the "amorally moral" man, changes his mind, even when he doesn't have to change his mind. An act of retribution, admitting his sins, his meekness before the divine, his feebleness before the omnipotent nil.
A sign that he deserves to be saved via the collective - signal that he is willing to sacrifice his integrity for the good of the many.

They can't make you change your mind - without cœrcion, seduction, bribery - so you must change your mind yourself....or has it been determined that you will change your mind?
Can I freely choose to change my mind?
If so...why?
Well, because this is what a good, pious, man does to signal his ability to conform to collective needs.

Change your mind - if you are free to do so.
Change your mind despite not being convinced.
Change your mind to signal your piety, your goodness.
Change your mind to prove you are humble before the infinitely unknown, i.e., divinity, universe.

And of course, like true recovering Abrahamics, these same fanatics - masking as humble intellectuals - will deny free-will.
So, how can I choose to change my mind if the universe - god - has not determined - willed - it that I should do so?

Christianity had to invent a narrative to deal with this contradiction.
Adam is free to choose, but if he chooses wrongly eternal damnation and suffering will be the price - so he has no real choice, does he?
Secular morons, having abandoned the original narratives - holy scripture - have yet to come up with an excuse to explain how one can choose to change his mind when it has not been determined that he should to do so.
Eventually they will....
Need is the mother of invention.

Unless. everyone eventually comes to god, and changes their mind to bring about salvation - right side of history.
Some, have been chose, to be ahead of the curb, and they have been determined to change their minds and realize that they have no real choice in the matter - it was inevitable, divinely determined that these few would be woke, whereas the rest of us - the not chosen - must endure the mockery and wait for when divinity has determined that we shall realize that we have no choice but to change our mind - most of us destined to go to our graves not saved.
Biblical stuff.

It has been written....I've heard.
What I've heard, what is written - logos - must overcome what I see, what is acted out.

In nature genes preceded memes, and memes proceed from genes.
This correlates to body/mind
Body precedes the evolution of brains; brains follow the evolution of bodies.
There are species with no brains and no nervous systems, and are entirely physical - genetic.

Now, with human culture this development comes way, way, way, after life emerged.
So, any study of human cultures must be founded on a study of our species.
Memes are Gene specific.
Memes (cultures, ideologies, spiritualities) do not emerge in a vacuum, from nothing and nowhere, but through the interaction (relationships) between specific populations (races, tribes) of a specific species - in this case homo sapient, but it could apply to any species if it developed a culture (we have earthly examples of other species developing proto-cultures), with specific environments.

So biology precedes ideology and ideology proceeds from biology - an addendum, a projection, an extension.
Practically:
Nature precedes nurture;' nurture proceeds form nature.
Among postmodern nihilists - as well as Marxists, Abrahamics - nurture must precedes nature - the sequence is inverted...ergo, for these fanatics, the 'word' (logos) is what "creates existence".
This is comforting for those whoa re not happy with who and what they are, and do not feel able to change or improve who and what they are, through will-power (discipline, correct judgements and choices, commitment, persistence etc.).
They prefer the easy way of declaring - linguistically - what is true, rather than studying it and adapting/adjusting to it, or becoming indifferent towards it (Stoicism).

They prefer Lockean tabula rasa - clean slates, i.e., nurture all the way down.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] nullify nature (sum of all past nurturing)...but they fail to escape it.
We may forget the past but it is never erased - past is continuously manifested as presence, and since sum of past nurturing is what nature is, nurture simply adds to what already is: mutable, dynamic, changing existence, continuously becoming immutable, unchanging.
Words don't help...deeds might...but deeds based on words disconnected from reality will indubitably and predictably fail.

Desperate degenerates always come to philosophy hoping there they will be given meaning and a purpose.
They always ask, thinking this is a deep philosophical question he it exposes their feeble spirit and lack:
"What is the meaning or purpose of life?", confusing meaning for purpose.
In making this question they've already presupposed what they eventually find in philosophy: an external authority, a master, to tell them what to do and how to do it...and so they conclude that purpose  is what is given by another, or imposed by another - if not god then another human.
Therein lies the source of their degeneracy and desperation.

First of all meaning has little to do with purpose.
Meaning refers to understanding or how data (knowledge) - itner-relates, relative to an objective - we can call it purpose.
Meaning is how the world is arranged in relation to purpose, viz., how it is interconnected and the degrees of these connections.
The meaning of a word, therefore, is how the conventional, dictionary definition, relates to the act, or actions, and how both relate to the individual's objective.
Triangulation.
The meaning of a map, as another example, refers to how the symbols relate to the geography, relative to an individual's destination.
The destination is what we call 'purpose' - so purpose gives meaning to our lives.

What does a moron ask when he asks "what is the purpose of life - or the meaning of life?
He's asking for a destination, an objective...a goal, and being a feeble imbecile he cannot give himself one, so he demands another provide for him what he cannot provide for himself.

This is what attracts him to these dogmatic nihilistic ideologies and spiritual dogmas.
Without god, who will tell him what to do or how to focus his life?
He turns to Marxism and the state, representing a collective. The collective is now the source of meaning and purpose.
Intuitively sensing how pathetic this makes him, he attempts to conceal his feebleness behind universality - so all is subjective or imposed by a collective, and there is no objective reality.
He needs someone to impose upon him a destination, a direction, a purpose, so as to then claim to be a victim of authoritarianism when he fails to find satisfaction in what has been imposed upon him - he likes to be a victim, preferably shared victimhood is preferable because feebleness can then be shared, and one meek weak manimal can comfort the other.
The cosmos is full of meaning, if meaning is properly defined and understood, whereas purpose is not something someone gives you, or imposed upon you, but what you give yourself. This is what it means to be free...but degenerates fear freedom because of the implications.
God will not give you purpose, nor the cosmos ...you give your life purpose and you do so within meaning, or within the real, not within the surreal or the unreal or the imagined or the 'yet to be,' or 'could be', or the 'what if'....Such purposes will always be disappointing and unrealizable.

*edit*
'What if' must always begin from 'what is', just as the destination must be relative to a starting point, and not be projected in a 'imagined beyond' or a 'fantasy future'.

When a man asks for 'meaning' he's asking for understanding. He's asking for someone else to connect the knowledge he's learned, and someone to show him the patterns these connections form.
When a man asks for 'purpose' he's asking another to guide him, to show him; he's asking another to become his mentor and/or master.
Now, it is true that man sometimes adopts the purpose of his family, or of his people, and becomes a willing follower of a master he identifies with.