I meant indirectly as in always somebody, the event, the dynamic has winners and losers in for the most part disgracefully uneven proportions. This is the only means of overall advancement, not untill a hivemind mechanism implemented can the dynamic be somewhat changed.
Say what you will about Inmendham, he does have a footing in realism of sorts. His personality is among the best. For him Nietzsche is more akin to a poet than philospher, calling upon the subscribers to stop noticing the whole picture & focus inward, to perfectly channel this force.
Yes, Immendham is very realistic in certain regards; he acknowledges that reality/nature is brutal, ferocious, and barbaric. He and I both see nature for what it really is, but he gives into cowardice and nihilism which has turned him into an effeminate, neurotic mess. If it weren't for his deluded sense of objective-morality, he would have a lot of potential for being a great member on this site.
Mo, I'm too much of an individualist to desire to support society especially with all its laws and taxes. I think I would rather live in an anarcho-primitivist state of nature even though that wouldn't be all 'sunshines and rainbows' either. I'll be honest, I'm on the bad end of the society spectrum. There aren't many opportunities for me in this system. It's emasculating; a fuck load of dead-end, dishonorable vassal jobs and a rare amount of manly, honorable jobs that are difficult to acquire. Even if I were in a decent position in society, I still would feel like a slave due to all the bullshit laws, regulations, taxes, and so on. Society, really, only benefits those at the very top. But that is sort of irrelevant from the main point of my initial post on society. I was, really, just trying to rid the pretense of ' humanity '.
Mo Lamb
Gender : Posts : 276 Join date : 2013-02-02 Age : 41 Location : Northerly
I look at land prices sometimes. Land is fairly cheap, if you look where other people aren't. Especially places without power, phone, cable or water hookups. It's a manageable goal to save for 10, 20, 50 acres in some sparsely populated forested place, with a river. At least where I am, in Canada. Like the price of a used car, often. Look north. Learn construction basics. Build your own house. Learn to hunt and grow. If it's a Rousseauian return to nature that you want, it is still to be had... I think. My brother does that. He can walk into his backyard, shoot a deer, butcher it, put it in his freezer. You don't need a lot of money, but whatever you do need, can be had by applying the skills you already used for yourself---like in building, etc. One issue is building codes, inspections, regulations... they can be a hurdle. But ultimately, it's just about education. At least in a society, you're less likely to have someone steal into your place in teh dark of night and kill you. And take what you have built. Playing by the rules is sometimes a small price to pay, I would think.
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150 acres for $18,000. But really, who the fuck would need 150 acres? Split it with like-minded friends. Keep 50 for $6,000. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] I might even be interested. The only thing is I'm not sure how much I'd like you're embracing 'nature's eternal brutality' schtick as a neighbour. As long as you kept it to yourself, and didn't go all will to power murderous when I was fishing.
If you're in the States, land is cheaper.
The price of a full grown white pine is typically $500 to $1000. Chop and sell a few, and the property will have paid for itself.
I'm not sure why I'm telling you this.
If you want to be an anarcho-primitivist... maybe you could stick your toe in the water, and see if you're cut out for it...?
I've been interested in Bushcraft for sometime now - I've even done a solo camping trip out in a remote forrest in upstate NY. I've also considered going off the grid. But, i'm still going to need to support myself financially; I'm not adept in hunting yet or agriculture.
I was also considering doing an expedition up in Canada, in the Jasper area. It's very serene in those parts.
Well, as far as buying land goes... that picture you uploaded may be a tad out of your price range, if not entirely protected by the Crown. But yes, it's nice.
But uh, step 1: How the fuck are you going to be an anarcho-primitivist if you're at a loss for what to do when there's no drive through window. Time to build some relevant skills muchacho...
Well I have watched many instructional videos on Youtube on the basics of survivalism. But, of course, one must do it first hand to really learn. I plan on doing more bushcraft trips once the weather gets nicer ( I'm in Upstate NY ).
I go winter camping a lot. It is nice to know that the bears are asleep. Killing a bear would make me depressed.
Primal Rage must learn to speak with the animals, if he is to be a man. But a phoneutria would scare me more than a bear...
The world's most deadly spider; toxic enough to kill a human by paralysis and asphyxiation... and an erection somewhere in between, I've read. A deadly erection. My world is now a darker place.
There's a huge trend of famous black males marrying Asians, it’s as if though their selfish genes are smarter than themselves. The black/asian offspring is far more aesthetically tuned than the other options. It’s like the opposites counteract each other.
Males are hard tuned to be attracted to the greatest of genetic potentials for future environment. Females much more prone to social conditioning, eluded into thinking said option bared greatest protection for child, etc.
So mixing ought to be looked within that lens. I personally find Northeast Asians highly attractive. However in the West asian looking males have the lowest of social standing, thus not even an option. If I were living in China permanently, then asian looking offspring would be far more advantageous. I'm conscious about my own biology, and thus can perfectly steer it in the right direction. Others have their biology ruling them, and the mimetic environment confusing the biology with adverse effect. Which are you??
Like I said -- it all comes back to how you feel about it Mo. Once we've figured that out all else can be dissected.
& learn some basic biology.....
OhFortunae
Gender : Posts : 2311 Join date : 2013-10-26 Age : 30 Location : Land of Dance and Song
it’s as if though their selfish genes are smarter than themselves.
There Will Be Blood wrote:
Males are hard tuned to be attracted to the greatest of genetic potentials for future environment. Females much more prone to social conditioning, eluded into thinking said option bared greatest protection for child, etc.
I know about the selfish genes, i wonder however, why does attraction towards the ''exotic'' exist, the purpose. I experience myself this kind of attraction for light-skinned Arab and Berber women and to some extent, Turkish women as well - in my country. This attraction would also go for the South-European women, but they are not common here.
I grew up amongst the ''normal'', thus my own kind (Germanic). Do not get me wrong, the strongest attraction towards females i have, is towards those belonging to my own people; as a child i felt the most attracted to the blonde girls with a normal, healthy body. The first time i became aware for my attraction towards women outside my own race, was with east-Asian women; but this attraction i do not have anymore since some years ago i noticed more and more differences among them in comparison with Caucasian women - such as flat noses, flat faces, soulless eyes and such..
Now i am 20 years old, my attraction has extended from mere blonde, blue-eyed women to the whole diversity among the Germanic women. As a child, i, for example, never had any sort of attraction for red-haired women, now i find them very beautiful; or freckles i did not like, now, if i see a blonde or a red-haired woman with freckles, i find it stunning - with brunettes less.
Yet, the more i become aware about fake hair, the less attractive these ''blondes'' become, i read a time ago that not blondes are the most common to become a porn-whore, but brunettes, this includes those with an artificial colour to hide their true colours. In the actual life, i notice, the women most prone to miscegenation are those who paint their hair differently from their original colour, especially Germanic women who paint their hair black, very unnatural and, together with women who colour their hair platinum-blond, the most noticeable to be found in interracial relationships.
But why also the attraction towards the ''exotic''. It might be due to the seemingly scarcity of them in combination with these specific foreign women having on average wider hips (fertility), black hair (standing out) and are smaller (the longest people in the world are the Dutch). I am 1.72 m, my mother is Swedish and 1.58 m, my father is Dutch and 1.97 m.
Thus fertility (hips), Caucasian features (beauty), body structure/length (smaller) and to a certain extent, identification - in correlation with scarcity.
Of course, attraction is more than just the colour of one's hair and the health of the body - i do not feel any attraction, for example, towards Slavonic women. It is about the whole being.
Anfang
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I experience myself this kind of attraction for light-skinned Arab and Berber women and to some extent, Turkish women as well - in my country.
Is it about the looks or also about the demeanor, their behaviour, which you associate with them?
I do not really have a collective judgment anymore about non-negroid individuals from a people as a whole; due to my job, i work all days outside and go through numerous neighborhoods. From the public usage of certain objects, or their care of the neighberhood, you can judge its collective genetic make-up, the whole of the people.
White welfare neighborhoods are this, negroid neighberhoods are that, non-White neighberhood are such and White worker / rich neighberhoods are the best in condition and behavior.
But i can now also separate from merely the facial expression; certain patterns in the face, how an individual will be belonging to any collective - nice, arrogance, big-mouthed, will greet me, will give me 'the finger', slut, pious, negro-whore, drinks coffee/smokes all day etc.
Drinking coffee, energy drink, or smoking, or eating MC-Donalds (or other fast food); such will fill me with disgust by any person and lose interest in any woman.
With those women i described in the former comment, i won't see them as much with such behavior (arrogance, fast-food) as my own kind. Except when they have no sense of their heritage, than they eat and drink all day these artificial products; and Moroccans, they seem to love KFC, muslim or not. Berber women without any of such (Islamic values) have (my own and that of others, experiences) the biggest mouth of all women you can imagine, so vile.. Turkish women (those of the younger generations) have the most respect - Islamic, cultural, or none, they are the most pious and nice in behavior; at least, those of the younger generations and again, by my own observations in every-day life.
-Overall, i like for example the humility of these women, when you walk passed by one of such women and look them into the eyes, they lower their gaze. -If not, they know how to talk in confidence and with respect, they know who they are. -They seemingly, still know how to cook - when i was in Utrecht at a book fair, the only person interested in extending her food preparation methods, observing the cooking books, was a Moroccan woman.. All those Dutch women went to the romantic non-sense books. -They still have a certain distinctive character to separate honour from cowardice - and care about it.
Thus a combination of the looks, demeanor and behavior; which each ethnic stands out in in one of these three.
Still, my strongest attraction is towards my own women, especially the sportive ones with some (contradicting?) humility..
Anfang
Gender : Posts : 3989 Join date : 2013-01-23 Age : 40 Location : Castra Alpine Grug
I do not really have a collective judgment anymore about non-negroid individuals from a people as a whole; due to my job,
It's also not like every working-class/ethnic combination is the same. And if one looks at the relatively young liberal elite of most western countries then one sees that the inversion of aristocracy is also in 'progress'.
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But i can now also separate from merely the facial expression; certain patterns in the face, how an individual will be belonging to any collective - nice, arrogance, big-mouthed, will greet me, will give me 'the finger', slut, pious, negro-whore, drinks coffee/smokes all day etc.
Yes, I find that the small gestures reveal a lot.
Behaviour is partly from the innate character which developed in an environment and in part it's learned mannerisms. I've found it important to find ways to discern between the two because learned mannerisms don't change the character behind the mask.
Lyssa Har Har Harr
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Mo, I'm too much of an individualist to desire to support society especially with all its laws and taxes. I think I would rather live in an anarcho-primitivist state of nature even though that wouldn't be all 'sunshines and rainbows' either. I'll be honest, I'm on the bad end of the society spectrum. There aren't many opportunities for me in this system. It's emasculating; a fuck load of dead-end, dishonorable vassal jobs and a rare amount of manly, honorable jobs that are difficult to acquire. Even if I were in a decent position in society, I still would feel like a slave due to all the bullshit laws, regulations, taxes, and so on. Society, really, only benefits those at the very top. But that is sort of irrelevant from the main point of my initial post on society. I was, really, just trying to rid the pretense of ' humanity '.
Your current financial condition apart, I will only comment that this kind of anarcho-primitivist "Individualism" and "each for his own" is ultimately, to me, self-stunting and dwarfing of the heart.
Master-Individuality is about being a link and maintaining that link and handing over/bequeathing that link.
You as a re-Presentation of your ancestors once more, and, You as Representing the highest value of a current society in a way, when you rise, the whole society rises with you.
This was the meaning of Nobility/Arya. The design of the caste system or Plato's republic was to effect this kind of Individuality - when you rise, the whole society [ancestors in the post, heirs of the future, kin of the present] rose with you. Caste is a linking and experiencing together.
To live alone, reaping the fruits of your success alone, to share them with a few family members and close-kin, etc. is typical dwarfing of the kind of Libertarian logic that Eyes/Antithesis and some others were propounding. He called it "contentment"; I call it regression.
This is atleast not what Indo-Europeans meant by "Individuality" - it was a double-affirmation.
I'm sure many of you have seen the latest Batman movie, so not much explication should be needed on this one. I just thought it would be fun and interesting to quickly post this.
The character Bane was born in some obscure, subterranean prison. The Prison was constructed as a sort of giant well, a gargantuan circular abyss that manifested the sky above. Bane was gravely beaten for helping to save a young girl escape the prison. His face was smashed in - which consequently caused some sort of perpetual nerve damage that only a special mask could alleviate.
Bane later is rescued from the prison by the League of Shadows. He is then excommunicated for reasons unknown.
Bane is a classic case of a misanthrope/nihilist. All of his years suffering in the abyss caused him to hate the world outside of which he could only fantasize about, he blamed the world ( Gotham City ) for his years of imprisonment, resented those who were free and enjoying life as he was left to rot in the abyss. He displays clear evidence of Marxist tendencies as well; take from the rich and give to the poor. But Bane is not, really, even interested in caring for the poor and disenfranchised; he hates, essentially, everyone which is why he planned on blowing up Gotham City entirely - Man, woman, child, and beast. He is a nihilist because he resented those who were free and happy, somehow deluding himself into believing that they were the source and culprits of his imprisonment and misery. It's akin to how an effete male blames the entire female population for social/sexual ostracization.
Bane let his rage and hatred consume him, he became a monster. But he was not always such; he had a heart at one point as evidence by his helping a young girl escape the prison from assault. But the beating he received and continual suffering from that point on drowned him into nihilistic rage.
The comments in my Ego Death thread inspired me to make this post. I'm going to demonstrate, succinctly, why I am not a Leftist.
Leftism : " Left-wing politics are political positions or activities that accept or support social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality. It typically involves a concern for those in society who are perceived as disadvantaged relative to others and an assumption that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished." - Wikipedia
Let's try and dissect this piece by piece.
Social Equality
Do I believe in social equality? Do I believe that all people are equal? or that all should be treated equally? No! I do NOT believe all people are equal nor do I believe that all people should should be treated equally. Hierarchy is everywhere in nature. We, humans, are part of nature. Some people are more athletic, some are more intelligent, some are more fat, some are more ugly, so on and so forth. No one is the same, therefore equality is impossible.
The core tenet of Leftism I reject. Ha!
Some major ideologies associated with Leftism: Feminism, LGBT movement, communism, Marxism, Liberalism, etc.
None of the listed ideologies and movements do I support.
The only vague similarity I have with Leftism is that I seek to help out some unfortunate souls, SOME. But Charity is not a necessary component of Leftism.
There Will Be Blood, what do you think of the TV series The Walking Dead? I've seen up until the 3rd season. I think it's a good show with subtle philosophical elements.
Glen Mazzara said that every writer on the series is required to read psychiatrist Viktor Frankl's legendary concentration camp narrative, Man's Search for Meaning. That's pretty muchh all you really need to know, long drawn out character progressions.
What subtle elements? I pretty much skim through it.
Glen Mazzara said that every writer on the series is required to read psychiatrist Viktor Frankl's legendary concentration camp narrative, Man's Search for Meaning. That's pretty muchh all you really need to know, long drawn out character progressions.
What subtle elements? I pretty much skim through it.
Subtle to the average viewer, not subtle to you, the adept philosopher.
You didn't say it could be. You said it is, so any clues?
To me, the first two seasons especially seemed to have a subtext relating to the brutality and nihilism of life, a search for meaning in a world of survival of the fittest. Why go on living in such a hostile, barbaric environment? Why bring loved one's into the equation? How does one retain ' humanity' in the brutality?
The third season is more about the hypocrisy of government. The ' Governor ' character and his civilized mini-utopia seem benevolent on the surface, but are brutal and barbaric under the surface. The black lady with the Katana sword represents the wild, barbarianism, yet she is more civilized than the 'Governor' and his ilk.
Haven't seen the other seasons yet, so no spoiling, please.
So I decided to take the liberty of doing some scouting, scouting for new members to inhabit this forum. I'm selecting appropriate philosophers from various sites and sending them invitations. I'm aiming for more females; they are lacking here, and they cause the male members to ' up their game '.
