I believe that white populations should focus on reproducing more and competing with other races in this regard. It's a battle for limited resources. Whites tend to have a low reproductive rate compared to high reproductive rate of negros and other non white populations. However with regard to resource monopoly, whites already tend to have it, in some parts of the world like European countries or the east coast of the united states. Ultimately on the global spectrum different racial and ethnic groups will compete over the prize of resource control, and maintenance. It's a different context to talk about whites globally and locally. Whites in the u.s. are pretty safe and insulated, in my opinion.
With regard to female hedonism and decadence, joblessness, I doubt that can be changed. Females simply don't need to work when 10 males will compete among themselves to pay for her. Even if you back out and want to "go your own way" MGTOW movement, then 9 other males will jump in your place immediately.
I think there's all sorts of females and males out there, not any one kind has ever completely dominated, nor can any one kind completely dominate. While most men may be more than happy to coddle women, for biological/traditional reasons (in the past, women were weaker, largely dependent on men for safety, security and sustenance, and it was women's responsibility to look after children. Due to affluence and declining birthrates, this is no longer the case, and this arrangement is no longer reciprocal, or mutually beneficial, it's become parasitical), or because they've been brainwashed by leftism, which teaches that men, white men in particular, are inherently evil, and are eternally and forever indebted to the rest of society, there are mutants out there, rarer types, men and even women who'll either have the intellect to notice men aren't being sufficiently compensated for their efforts, and/or men who don't have the instincts to coddle women, and women who don't have the instincts to be coddled by men, yet some of these mutants may still want long term relationships and possibly even children.
There's only so many men to go around, so even if these types are a minority, let's say 1 percent of the population, females and males make up about 50/50 percent of the population, so that means some of these sexually/socially normal females are going to have to accept these men if they want to start a family. However, countering that, many women don't commit, they'll have a child with a man and then divorce him, remain alone for a while, often partly dependent on government, and then find another man, so that they could just find another man servant to hook up with after the next one, and never have to bother with men who don't cater to their every need. Only if the minority of men, going their own way, sort of speak, exceeded one percent, and became a major minority, would we see any change in female behavior, otherwise, they can just remain alone for a little while, until one female breaks up with her man servant, who becomes available for her. They could just pass all the able and willing man servants out there between themselves, and never have to give a man like myself, the time of day.
Even if MGTOW, or whatever, never becomes all that popular, there's still a chance for MGTOWs to find girls who, like themselves, are mutants, women who're willing to pull their own weight. Gradually, more and more of these women may end up getting sexually and socially selected, and then we could see a shift in male/female relationships, at the cultural and even the biological levels. More and more men and even women are speaking out against such antiquated behaviors from bygone eras, and slowly but surely, I think, they'll have a significant cultural impact on the genetic/mimetic landscape, from the grass roots, bottom up.
Because you claimed that your worth to society was your protection, over your procreation.
You've demonstrated a few things already. By becoming a "protector" of society, as you say, you first imply that females cannot protect themselves. I say they can, especially after the invention of weapons and arms. After swords and spears, humans pretty much dominated all other species. So females didn't need males to protect them, after weapons. Firearms and guns is just overkill. A female can protect herself with a gun.
Second, you are painting other males as "bad" and yourself as "good". As if the savagery of one male is worse than the savagery of another. Or that you, somehow, magically, "deserve" more or deserve special treatment or consideration. Why should females choose you over another male? You respond "because I'm a fighter". So why is that important? Are you necessary? Can't a man just provide sperm without being a fighter? You are basing your self worth of this offering.
Which leads to the final point. You are basing yourself, your identity and value, off of a reaction. You are handing over your autonomy to females. You are giving them control. You are giving them the keys to your apartment, the keys to your car. You are saying "have everything I own", are you not? Because are you anything "more" than your offering to society?
I think there's all sorts of females and males out there, not any one kind has ever completely dominated, nor can any one kind completely dominate. While most men may be more than happy to coddle women, for biological/traditional reasons (in the past, women were weaker, largely dependent on men for safety, security and sustenance, and it was women's responsibility to look after children. Due to affluence and declining birthrates, this is no longer the case, and this arrangement is no longer reciprocal, or mutually beneficial, it's become parasitical), or because they've been brainwashed by leftism, which teaches that men, white men in particular, are inherently evil, and are eternally and forever indebted to the rest of society, there are mutants out there, rarer types, men and even women who'll either have the intellect to notice men aren't being sufficiently compensated for their efforts, and/or men who don't have the instincts to coddle women, and women who don't have the instincts to be coddled by men, yet some of these mutants may still want long term relationships and possibly even children.
There's only so many men to go around, so even if these types are a minority, let's say 1 percent of the population, females and males make up about 50/50 percent of the population, so that means some of these sexually/socially normal females are going to have to accept these men if they want to start a family. However, countering that, many women don't commit, they'll have a child with a man and then divorce him, remain alone for a while, often partly dependent on government, and then find another man, so that they could just find another man servant to hook up with after the next one, and never have to bother with men who don't cater to their every need. Only if the minority of men, going their own way, sort of speak, exceeded one percent, and became a major minority, would we see any change in female behavior, otherwise, they can just remain alone for a little while, until one female breaks up with her man servant, who becomes available for her. They could just pass all the able and willing man servants out there between themselves, and never have to give a man like myself, the time of day.
Even if MGTOW, or whatever, never becomes all that popular, there's still a chance for MGTOWs to find girls who, like themselves, are mutants, women who're willing to pull their own weight. Gradually, more and more of these women may end up getting sexually and socially selected, and then we could see a shift in male/female relationships, at the cultural and even the biological levels. More and more men and even women are speaking out against such antiquated behaviors from bygone eras, and slowly but surely, I think, they'll have a significant cultural impact on the genetic/mimetic landscape, from the grass roots, bottom up.
I think this is an unprecedented time in human history due to global communication, technology, the internet, nuclear bombs, and other social factors such as capitalism, industrialism, commercialism, corporatism, etc.
However nature changes very slowly, or not at all. Recently you mentioned assigning one female to one male. This was already implemented a long time ago by the Catholic founders and authors of christianity. They implemented forced monogamy for the same reasons its presented today. If females are not forced to marry a man, then female sexuality explodes, and females raise their own sexual value automatically. Even a slut will price her sex higher and higher, after realizing that she can.
It creates a division between the genders. If only exceptionally elite males start getting all the pussy, then what happens to society?? The other 90% of males start revolting and becoming displaced. Pornography and prostitution only go so far, before males also demand more. Males demand more control over sex.
But in the west, particularly u.s., we see females going from 95% control of society to 99.9%. So this is the reason for MGTOW and MRA phenomenon. The inequality is growing, not subsiding. And this will cause social and cultural schisms.
I point to Karen Straugh "girlwriteswhat" on youtube as the signal of the fact, and sign of what's to come.
Impulso Oscuro
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What are most of us made of? 49% female and 51% male DNA When a society represents this balance of in the form of masculinity and femininity it is at its most harmonious.
Society is not as anti-male as much as existence is anti-life, to live is to decay and die.
Æon wrote:
You've demonstrated a few things already. By becoming a "protector" of society, as you say, you first imply that females cannot protect themselves. I say they can, especially after the invention of weapons and arms. After swords and spears, humans pretty much dominated all other species. So females didn't need males to protect them, after weapons. Firearms and guns is just overkill. A female can protect herself with a gun.
Females dont need guns, they have their bodies.
I will agree that warfare has become more disconnected, indirect, feminized but the conviction to kill (at least in the immediate) is something females do not yet have.
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What are most of us made of? 49% female and 51% male DNA When a society represents this balance of in the form of masculinity and femininity it is at its most harmonious.
Society is not as anti-male as much as existence is anti-life, to live is to decay and die.
Æon wrote:
You've demonstrated a few things already. By becoming a "protector" of society, as you say, you first imply that females cannot protect themselves. I say they can, especially after the invention of weapons and arms. After swords and spears, humans pretty much dominated all other species. So females didn't need males to protect them, after weapons. Firearms and guns is just overkill. A female can protect herself with a gun.
Females dont need guns, they have their bodies.
I will agree that warfare has become more disconnected, indirect, feminized but the conviction to kill (at least in the immediate) is something females do not yet have.
Females don't need to orchestrate violence, war, or killings. That's what the men are there for.
They have the men do all the violence, war, and killing for them so that they don't have to get their hands dirty. Women are equally violent but instead just prefer men to carry the acts out for them. Lazy and incapable bitches......
I'm with Joker on that, women are the ultimate source concerning the instigation and cause of violence.
Males are proxies for female violence. Females are also at war (Agon) with each other. Females also compete over limited resources. Females commonly use males to kill other people, their enemies. And then it's "ironic" that a male's enemies are not his own. For example, men will sometimes kill others that they like, and don't want to kill, but still kill out of necessity.
Would you rather have your pussy or not? What is the real, true price of pussy?
I'm with Joker on that, women are the ultimate source concerning the instigation and cause of violence.
Males are proxies for female violence. Females are also at war (Agon) with each other. Females also compete over limited resources. Females commonly use males to kill other people, their enemies. And then it's "ironic" that a male's enemies are not his own. For example, men will sometimes kill others that they like, and don't want to kill, but still kill out of necessity.
Would you rather have your pussy or not? What is the real, true price of pussy?
Some of us here know better than most.
The true price discovery for pussy is constant war, competition, infighting, and violence on the behalf of males.
The genuine real nature of women beyond all that shit mascara, lipstick, and eye liner is a nasty one. Beyond that pretend facade of innocence or victimization. They know it themselves but never like to admit to it and hate any man that speaks about it.
Impulso Oscuro
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Females don't need to orchestrate violence, war, or killings. That's what the men are there for.
Females dont want to orchestrate violence, war, or killings...and thats why they're so dangerous.
You have to understand, this is typical MRA doctrine. Male-on-Male competition over females is a female's fault...mainly because the female will not choose them, without allowing them to compete for her first.
And, of course, in evolutionary terms, a female bears the higher risks in the procreative game. Not in sheltering Modern environments, where everything is reversed, as it always is with nihilism, but in nature.
What are most of us made of? 49% female and 51% male DNA When a society represents this balance of in the form of masculinity and femininity it is at its most harmonious.
Society is not as anti-male as much as existence is anti-life, to live is to decay and die.
Æon wrote:
You've demonstrated a few things already. By becoming a "protector" of society, as you say, you first imply that females cannot protect themselves. I say they can, especially after the invention of weapons and arms. After swords and spears, humans pretty much dominated all other species. So females didn't need males to protect them, after weapons. Firearms and guns is just overkill. A female can protect herself with a gun.
Females dont need guns, they have their bodies.
I will agree that warfare has become more disconnected, indirect, feminized but the conviction to kill (at least in the immediate) is something females do not yet have.
Ha!
Are you kidding?
Females kill all and maim all the time, and they do so out of hate/sadism.
What are most of us made of? 49% female and 51% male DNA When a society represents this balance of in the form of masculinity and femininity it is at its most harmonious.
Society is not as anti-male as much as existence is anti-life, to live is to decay and die.
Æon wrote:
You've demonstrated a few things already. By becoming a "protector" of society, as you say, you first imply that females cannot protect themselves. I say they can, especially after the invention of weapons and arms. After swords and spears, humans pretty much dominated all other species. So females didn't need males to protect them, after weapons. Firearms and guns is just overkill. A female can protect herself with a gun.
Females dont need guns, they have their bodies.
I will agree that warfare has become more disconnected, indirect, feminized but the conviction to kill (at least in the immediate) is something females do not yet have.
Ha!
Are you kidding?
Females kill all and maim all the time, and they do so out of hate/sadism.
Females don't need to orchestrate violence, war, or killings. That's what the men are there for.
Females dont want to orchestrate violence, war, or killings...and thats why they're so dangerous.
You have to understand, this is typical MRA doctrine. Male-on-Male competition over females is a female's fault...mainly because the female will not choose them, without allowing them to compete for her first.
And, of course, in evolutionary terms, a female bears the higher risks in the procreative game. Not in sheltering Modern environments, where everything is reversed, as it always is with nihilism, but in nature.
Even in a existence of nature women are a bunch of spoiled bitches where the men go to hunt,war,procure, and are exposed to the elements.
Are women grateful? Fuck no!
I suppose you're going to cart out chivalry in this thread now........
Satyr is obligated to protect his pet pussy Liessa, white knight style, as he is accustomed to do. Liessa is an interesting twat. I wondered if she is Echo at one point, she denied it. But she sure as fuck copy pastes, echoing other thinkers, intellectuals, and philosophy works which are not her own, delivering her thoughts to her superiors like a good little errand girl. This dumb twat has the gall and nerve to attack my intellectual integrity, while she herself is truly the retard, who cannot author her own thread, nor has her own voice, but uses the voices of other men to speak for her.
Girls use favoritism to employ social power. Girls favor their best white knight, a protector, like Erik values and aspires to become. But girls also favor the black knight too, the rebel without a cause, the "dark and handsome" type, the suave sexy smooth talking male.
You see, here's the deal.......... whether the modern man, MRA, MGTOW, chooses white or black knight strategies for sex....both are still knights. This commonality defines them both into the same type, the same category.
Could you imagine males which are outside society completely? Males who are not knights at all, and do not aspire to become knights? Could you imagine a group of males who reject the service of society?
That requires the best type of imagination, and also a distinct distance or divorce from society.
An outcast, exile, or simply a vagabond would understand this naturally.
Most males are excluded from society forcefully, a rarer few willingly choose to leave society. Rarest is the type of male who society values above all others, but still does not buy into society.
Erik will understand this as "the male best fit to protect the whole of society".
A Gaurdian, as Plato wrote over 2000 years ago........ this is old news, already known to ancient philosophy.
Most males are indoctrinated and educated to become white knights. A black knight is the "bad boy" who can hold women ransom, and treads the lines of the law, but still ultimately supports the society's status quo. Both knights are servants of the state.
Dependent males
Satyr Daemon
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If you derail further then I'm going to have to report you and move you to the dungeon.
Simple boy, above there's a post about how females maim and kill "all the time" and this thread, like all your threads, is about how vile women are... it's really not difficult to stay on-topic in one of your threads, boy. They are all about a central theme: I resent females for not being ideal, so that I can avoid male competition, which I cannot deal with.
S.C.U.M. was written by a female who had the same mind as yours...only for her men were inferior and disgusting.
Yes, I'm already acquainted with the cute radical feminists like that running around everywhere. Those bitches are funny.
Major difference with me by comparison is that I don't want to get rid of females persay but instead just want to reduce them to a subservient or subordinate level to men. Exactly right where they belong.
I also view women as disgusting, inferior, and abhorrent.
Must be that whole diametrical forces between men and women thing.
Wow, you dug that all the way back from the 80's.
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They are all about a central theme: I resent females for not being ideal, so that I can avoid male competition, which I cannot deal with.
There are ways around infighting or competition with other men concerning females.
[Checks the list of his rape kit]
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Satyr Daemon
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Keep using those girlish ways of yours, boy. Then tell us what a "real man" you are.
"lol"? Really? Are you a teenage cunt?
LaughingMan wrote:
Yes, I'm already acquainted with the cute radical feminists like that running around everywhere. Those bitches are funny.
Are they more funny, or less so, than you and the guy you spend every evening cuddling with....where nobody knows what is going on under the sheets?
LaughingMan wrote:
Major difference with me by comparison is that I don't want to get rid of females persay but instead just want to reduce them to a subservient or subordinate level to men. Exactly right where they belong.
So, the end of civilization will conveniently leave a few supermodels for a douche-bag to rape? I say rape because at that point, when you are the last man on earth, they will not recognize you as one.
LaughingMan wrote:
Wow, you dug that all the way back from the 80's.
Yeah, I actually think outside the dates of my birth and death.
The 80's would be what you would called "old-school," you dumb fuck.
How many hints must life give you before you look at yourself as what you are?
Superior/inferior need context, which you lack in this empty accusation of yours. Become specific, what are my claims regarding superiority and inferiority? Are females superior at giving birth to children? Yes, yes they are. There, I admitted that females are superior than males. This is what you want to hear, what you are after, yes?
Your implications are empty.
Females are lovely and gorgeous, disgusting? No that's just a straw man of yours, a projection of your own pscyhe?
Satyr Daemon
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When the bros are bigger hos than the worse ho can be, I'll go for the female.
Æon wrote:
Satyr is obligated to protect his pet pussy Liessa, white knight style, as he is accustomed to do.
Being that you are one dull fuck (I've heard you trying to "seduce" a female on the phone, you idiot), I decided to step in....because Lyssa is far too nice, and she cannot deal with a piece of turd, like you. I know what you are. I've smelled you for years.
In a few months, if you get the balls to post your "revolutionary work" we will discover your plagiarism...and where you went off on your own, the depths of your autistic failings.
Here you are repeating back to me everything you've picked-up, and misunderstood, in my posts, and you tell Lyssa she's "copy pasting"? Really? You?
And below your "broken heart" finds its source...
Æon wrote:
Liessa is an interesting twat. I wondered if she is Echo at one point, she denied it.
Were you hoping Lyssa was Echo, turd? Did your heart skip a beat at the thought? Are you still hoping it's her?
Because Satyr could only have seduced one female, right? Do you wish to speak to her on the phone, invite her to your home, fertilize her ovum?
Keep using those girlish ways of yours, boy. Then tell us what a "real man" you are.
"lol"? Really? Are you a teenage cunt?
LaughingMan wrote:
Yes, I'm already acquainted with the cute radical feminists like that running around everywhere. Those bitches are funny.
Are they more funny, or less so, than you and the guy you spend every evening cuddling with....where nobody knows what is going on under the sheets?
LaughingMan wrote:
Major difference with me by comparison is that I don't want to get rid of females persay but instead just want to reduce them to a subservient or subordinate level to men. Exactly right where they belong.
So, the end of civilization will conveniently leave a few supermodels for a douche-bag to rape? I say rape because at that point, when you are the last man on earth, they will not recognize you as one.
LaughingMan wrote:
Wow, you dug that all the way back from the 80's.
Yeah, I actually think outside the dates of my birth and death.
The 80's would be what you would called "old-school," you dumb fuck.
How many hints must life give you before you look at yourself as what you are?
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Keep using those girlish ways of yours, boy. Then tell us what a "real man" you are.
"lol"? Really? Are you a teenage cunt?
I'm just always laughing at the rest of the world's expense. Don't you know that by now?
Calm down old goat. Take a Vicodin.
Since it annoys you so much I think I'll try to get in the habit of incorporating more of them in my posts. I'll do whatever I can to put a smile on your face.
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Are they more funny, or less so, than you and the guy you spend every evening cuddling with....where nobody knows what is going on under the sheets?
Homo erotic fantasies. Be careful Satyr.......
You're starting to reveal yourself and your true colors.
Just looking out for you bro.....
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So, the end of civilization will conveniently leave a few supermodels for a douche-bag to rape?
Somebody's daughters or wives will be surviving somewhere.
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I say rape because at that point, when you are the last man on earth, they will not recognize you as one.
You'd be surprised what a little bit of Stockholm Syndrome and physically beating a woman into complete submission can do Satyr.
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Yeah, I actually think outside the dates of my birth and death.
The 80's would be what you would called "old-school," you dumb fuck.
Yes, it certainly is old school alright.
Thanks for that tid bit of history however.
I like reading about unknown cryptic historical type stuff like that.
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How many hints must life give you before you look at yourself as what you are?
Can you be more specific?
Satyr Daemon
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Are you ever, ever, going to say anything outside your wet-dream fantasies and gossip? I know your butt-buddy things its "original content" and "philosophy" but for me its like reading a young boy's diary.
If you are now, at your age, at the point where beating a woman is the only action you will get, then just cut it off, boy. Get rid of it...you are done.
I only hope that in your post-war Dystopian future, you are the only male left alive, or perhaps someone like Purple Dragon survives along with you, because if not, you will be back to living outside the tents, sweeping the camp from his leftovers, and washing it down, to get rid of last-night's orgy....where you were the designated torch lighter.
With your skin tone I hope its a Nuclear Winter scenario.
Are you ever, ever, going to say anything outside your wet-dream fantasies and gossip? I know your butt-buddy things its "original content" and "philosophy" but for me its like reading a young boy's diary.
If you are now, at your age, at the point where beating a woman is the only action you will get, there, just cut it off, boy. I only hope that in your post-war dystopia you are the only male, or perhaps someone like Purple Dragon survives along with you, because if not, you will be back to kissing his arse, sweeping the camp from his leftovers, and washing it down, to get rid of last-night's orgy....where you were the designated torch lighter.
With your skin tone I hope its a Nuclear Winter scenario.
Well, if it's a global nuclear winter scenario then we're all dead including yourself.
It would be the single greatest joke on humanity of them all. It really would be quite hilarious.
Painfully and agonizingly hilarious actually.....
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I know your butt-buddy things its "original content" and "philosophy" but for me its like reading a young boy's diary.
Well, while we're being honest with each other here you sound an awful like a bitter old man fed up with the world who works as a hospital orderly.
A man who sees most of his years spent still enslaved and caught in the proverbial rat race who can only vent on the internet about his existential frustrations.
A self resigned man.
That must be frustrating Satyr. I can certainly sympathize with you.
Would you like my sympathy?
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If you are now, at your age, at the point where beating a woman is the only action you will get, there, just cut it off, boy.
No, physically beating a woman into submission would be more fun.
Have you cut yours off yet? Could that possibly explain some of your frustrations?
You know, they have plastic surgery for those sort of things.
Was that the motivation for writing the Feminization Of Man?
Perhaps that was your secret aggression in being able to write all of that.
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I only hope that in your post-war dystopia you are the only male, or perhaps someone like Purple Dragon survives along with you, because if not, you will be back to kissing his arse, sweeping the camp from his leftovers, and washing it down, to get rid of last-night's orgy....where you were the designated torch lighter.
When all of this shit show gets ready to pop I am going to have lots of friends and allies with me. It really won't be all that hard. Desperate people especially other fellow males will be everywhere and rampant. Recruitment will be relatively easy.
A raping and plundering we shall go, hi-ho the derry-o, a raping and plundering we shall go.
Here were are, at the precipice of the destruction of civilization where I'm just as happy as you can be.
I'm overwhelmed with pure joy.
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Satyr you become a hypocrite when you chastize me and others here for derailing a thread, but then you go right ahead and do it yourself. How about exemplifying some leadership and obeying the rules you clamor to defend???
And you don't know much about me, Satyr. You never needed to. My curiosity and exploration surpasses yours by leagues and leagues. Of course I was, and am, obsessed about Echo. But so what? Is it a big deal for you? Of course there are other fish in the sea.
You're simply attempting to find a weak point with this "inferiority" and "disgust" claim. I enjoy females very much.
Impulso Oscuro
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You have to understand, this is typical MRA doctrine. Male-on-Male competition over females is a female's fault...mainly because the female will not choose them, without allowing them to compete for her first.
And, of course, in evolutionary terms, a female bears the higher risks in the procreative game. Not in sheltering Modern environments, where everything is reversed, as it always is with nihilism, but in nature.
They never mention that this competition is over qualitative females, most of these manchildren could bag a nigress from Africa with their money alone.
I mentioned that a society is harmonious when it has the right masculine/feminine balance, what society in history do you believe came the closest to this apex? Sparta? I would think Sparta leaned on the more masculine side like 70%/30%.
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