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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Jan 22, 2015 8:43 pm

Æon wrote:

I know that none of you can challenge me, with insights, reasons, causes, significant, sufficient answers.

Especially not the piece of crap, Constantinakos, what a fucking loser.

What is there to challenge?

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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyFri Jan 23, 2015 5:53 am

Impulso Oscuro wrote:
What is there to challenge?
Shut the fuck up, faggot. Offer an idea, or keep those retarded "ideas" inside your skull. Nobody wants to hear your brain spew.

What, the fuck, have you ever written on this forum, or any other forum, worth reading????? That's right, nothing, faggot.
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Æon wrote:
Impulso Oscuro wrote:
What is there to challenge?
Shut the fuck up, faggot.  Offer an idea, or keep those retarded "ideas" inside your skull.  Nobody wants to hear your brain spew.

What, the fuck, have you ever written on this forum, or any other forum, worth reading?????  That's right, nothing, faggot.

Apparently my question was worth reading for you to respond to it.

I ask again, what is there to challenge?

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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptySat Jan 24, 2015 4:37 pm

I have a long history, on this forum and on ILP. I have many materials and ideas already expressed, exposed, and offered. I've challenged the best of ILP, and the best of this forum countless times. Dozens and hundreds of times.

There is nobody here worth disputing, really. I do enjoy arguing with Satyr, although he is retarded, from time to time. I like to "sharpen my blade".

Now, who, the fuck, is "Impulso Oscuro"? True to your name, you're obscure. You're a no namer. You have no name. You have no material.

So your question "what's to challenge" is worthless. It's weightless. Sure I can be challenged, but, not by a fucking no named loser.


Here's what I require for a true challenge.

Write 300 words. Of your own brain, your own ideas, your own thoughts, your own expressions. No copy pasting, like the dumb bitch Lyssa.

Own up. Begin philosophy. Do philosophy.


Without 300 words, of your own ideas, you're nothing to me, just another no named loser.


If you want to learn about "what's to challenge", then research into my previous posts, discussions, debates, ideas. I have probably millions and millions of words worth of text out there. Do some homework. Or, shut the fuck up, I suppose. I don't need to repeat myself to no namers. Not worth my time.

I will respond to challenges from somebody like Satyr. Worthy of my time. Somebody who thinks for himself. A true thinker. A true philosopher.

No namers have no reputation. Build a reputation. Build a history. Build a philosophy before you challenge the likes of me.
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptySat Jan 24, 2015 4:40 pm

Oh, by the way, I guess the reason I returned to this topic recently is this.........

I've met yet another young girl, who claims to have been "raped". I'll quote her exact words shortly, maybe today or tomorrow......this will be interesting and a learning experience for some.
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptySat Jan 24, 2015 7:38 pm

Æon wrote:
I have a long history, on this forum and on ILP.  I have many materials and ideas already expressed, exposed, and offered.  I've challenged the best of ILP, and the best of this forum countless times.  Dozens and hundreds of times.

You have challenged them and what was the outcome?

Æon wrote:
There is nobody here worth disputing, really.  I do enjoy arguing with Satyr, although he is retarded, from time to time.  I like to "sharpen my blade".

Why do you argue with retards?

Æon wrote:
Now, who, the fuck, is "Impulso Oscuro"?  True to your name, you're obscure.  You're a no namer.  You have no name.  You have no material.


So your question "what's to challenge" is worthless.  It's weightless.  Sure I can be challenged, but, not by a fucking no named loser.

It means Dark Impulse, i chose it since it resonates with many of the themes here. So i am a loser that has no name? What have i lost?


Æon wrote:
Here's what I require for a true challenge.

Write 300 words.  Of your own brain, your own ideas, your own thoughts, your own expressions.  No copy pasting, like the dumb bitch Lyssa.

Own up.  Begin philosophy.  Do philosophy.

Only 300? Oh come on, i bet Lyssa spends hours typing those TLDRs she loves posting from time to time.


Æon wrote:
Without 300 words, of your own ideas, you're nothing to me, just another no named loser.


If you want to learn about "what's to challenge", then research into my previous posts, discussions, debates, ideas.  I have probably millions and millions of words worth of text out there.  Do some homework.  Or, shut the fuck up, I suppose.  I don't need to repeat myself to no namers.  Not worth my time.

Millions? How can you even compare 300 to that much? Didn't you just call me loser, what chance do i have?


Æon wrote:
I will respond to challenges from somebody like Satyr.  Worthy of my time.  Somebody who thinks for himself.  A true thinker.  A true philosopher.
No namers have no reputation. Build a reputation. Build a history. Build a philosophy before you challenge the likes of me.
Since you responded to me, do you consider me a challenge?

Don't worry, i wont disappoint.

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Write a 300 word paragraph for me, demonstrating your knowledge.

You've already failed once. You're wasting my time now.
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyMon Jan 26, 2015 7:29 am

Rape in the Bible is a 'humbling' of the woman; Xt. typically, fear of the senses and eliminating her spirit, needing redemption. Paganism saw it as a plundering of wealth, to speak of nuances in cultural mentalities...

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“If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.”
—Deuteronomy 22.28—29

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“And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. If her father utterly refuse to give her unto him, he shall pay money according to the dowry of virgins.”
—Exodus xxii.16—17

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“If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel. If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour’s wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.”
—Deuteronomy xxii.22—24

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“And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters. If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish. And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.”
—Exodus xxi.7—11

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“When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the LORD thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive, And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife; Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails; And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will; but thou shalt not sell her at all for money, thou shalt not make merchandise of her, because thou hast humbled her.”
—Deuteronomy xxi.10—14
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The slant towards Acquaintance rape only shows how warped the definition of an omega male is taken to be.


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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptySat Jan 31, 2015 11:07 pm

Well... after laying here in this bed with a broken ankle and 2 months of military rehab to look forward to with no electronics use, I will give you something before I go.

Thank you.

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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Well... after laying here in this bed with a broken ankle and 2 months of military rehab to look forward to with no electronics use, I will give you something before I go.

Thank you.

The twat Neon, only provokes to plagiarize.

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Sarcasm


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Lyssa wrote:
Impulso Oscuro wrote:
Well... after laying here in this bed with a broken ankle and 2 months of military rehab to look forward to with no electronics use, I will give you something before I go.

Thank you.

The twat Neon, only provokes to plagiarize.

gw. soon.

Apologize for the long response time, and thanks, im back on my feet now and continuing my voyage among the weakened walls of a landfill.

Despite his intent, he is right, lately i have not thought about it much since the military tends to lucidify the mind but i have yet to create something that resonates with my existence.

I do think about my old flames however and how the concubines here remind me of them, especially one with a deep voice of Dutch decent...

I keep telling myself that i will never pass on my flame and that it will be the end...and yet when i do this my flame grows and engulfs my whole body as if it prepared for a suicidal attack, it drives my fitness along with the fitting music. I know it seems cartoony but i cant help but envision it.

I keep being told that i smile too much and that its "creepy" which makes me smile all the more.








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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Apr 16, 2015 10:20 am

We can take the analogy of Satyr getting banned at ILP. Here we have someone acting in a way they desire, knowing that in the particular culture he is participating in he runs a strong risk of being punished and going head and doing it anyway. We can take on good faith his assessment that he does not feel victimized. However he is critical of the culture and spends time analyzing facets of a culture he considers limited and limiting and problematic. This latter is analogous to feminist critique of those facets of society that lead to women being limited – in movement, in behavior, in expression, in attitude – that they consider problematic. Let’s shift to a Muslim country. Suddenly, I would guess, a number of the feminist critics here would act very much, on occasion, at least in discussion, like feminists. They might argue that a woman who is raped should not be tried – and potentially killed – for adultery. They might think that women should not be physically punished for showing their hair or driving a car. The might agree that there are patterns of violence and conceptions of women (and men) connected to and supporting this violence that are unnecessary and damaging. IOW they might be feminists in that culture. The might informally mount critiques of certain rules, and certain kind of male reaction to women engaging in behaviors they consider OK.

If there is a pattern or set of patterns in a culture that lead to what is both unnecessary and damaging, they pointing this out and pressing for change is pretty normal. There is something damaged and damaging about men who think that whatever they consider sexy clothes forces them of gives them the right to rape someone. If the woman is taking some kind of risk beyond the norm – the parallel to letting her hair be seen or going for a walk without a male guardian or expressing some anger towards a man in some cultures – then seeing rape as a kind of norm that one simply accepts, a given like breathing is self-servingly insane. Because men are trained to shift to action with first dealing with the full range of their emotions, they often think that throwing acid in the face of a woman who is refusing their advances or raping a woman with a skirt X centimeters shorter than another woman’s skirt in the same bar, is not their responsibility. It is the woman’s she made them do this. Focusing on that training is not crazy of life killing, but criticism of a part of culture that is not helping anyone, even those not so radically affected by it as the rapists and the acid throwers are.

Sure, in our culture, the rapists stand a chance of going to prison. Not so long ago many of them would not, only the stranger rapists would, and even then they could be let off because the woman had had more sex with other men, for example. IOW women engaging in behavior that most of the men here in this forum would consider just fine, were considered unrapeable and open season targets. Not because they skipped around in dark alleys in their underwear, but simply because they had slept with a few men outside of marriage. That’s kinda nuts. And so part of feminist critique, then, was that the woman’s prior sexual behavior offered no justification for the man’s behavior. I mean, you have fucking mothers and sisters and girlfriends don’t you?

It’s nice to present black and white cases: walking around naked, so that the mistake or risk taking of the women seems to be wildly beyond the norm, with all the attendant emotional satisfaction that comes with this. If one looks at it cross-culturally and historically, norms – taking cultural patterns as biologically determined outcomes – are not norms and most of you would be feminists in other contexts.

And sure all sorts of idiocy has come out of feminist policies and in feminist analysis, so I am sure it comforting to stare at the precise present moment in time and vast complicated set of texts and positions and consider only the worst parts.

And then, of course, considering rape as not so bad and not devastating, that also allows a nice bathing in smugness that I am sure is very satisfying, though that even people who are parents can manage this kind of idiocy is rather amazing.

If you shift to property and socialist sympathy for carjackers and burglars is the parallel to the rapist mentality….

IOW when you get carjacked, you are blamed because you ‘showed your nicer than average car in public outside your suburban neighborhood’ and the carjackers are seen as simply showing their biological need for material goods, and if this was the conceptual culture, and Grand Theft Auto was part of the education of all children, you would think that there was something fucked up in the culture. You might even bitch about it here, in fact you all likely have in some way or other. Once it is property, there are victims. But when it is women you see as acting out and getting uppity and making you horny without giving you access to her pussy, you think she is a bitch who deserves to get put down. Even though if your job took you to another culture where what is considered ‘women acting out’ is different, you might find yourself thinking that the norms are messed up. Because you cannot think. Because you are young and dumb, those of you that are – some of you do not have this excuse, since you actually have knowledge of at least some range of different cultures and are not young.

Young idiotic people can be partially excused their confusions about what is necessarily present biologically and what is cultural and sick and fucked up. (and if you think I think men and women are the same and it’s all a social construct, you could not be more wrong)

Does it have to be the case that Satyr will be banned from any forum if he takes the 'risk' and expresses himself in certain ways?

Could there be any value in analyzing the sick patterns that lead to a norm where he will be punished if he strays from the norm?

Are there cultural factors leading to, in some cultures, Satyr's increased risk of being banned, and is there value in critiquing these?

Is there value in pointing out the double standards of the people in that culture when it comes to the way Satyr is treated when he moves beyond certain limits and when other people do?

(it's sad but I doubt the will to and ability to follow the analogy exists)

There’s also an implicit false dichotomy here around being a victim and having taken risks. But that’s the subject of another outburst.
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And of course the fundamentalist Muslim thinks there is no problem with his culture, that his culture reflects biological inevitability and understood by God and so there is nothing to unlearn. That he knows what is culture and what is nature in himself. Look in that fucking mirror.

Or stop posting in the Forums thread, here.

One or the other.
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Dear, hypocritical simpleton....

My critique of the environment is not based on a good/evil assessment, but is a pure analysis of the circumstances.
I describe the world I live in, and the world I live in is dominated by human constructs.
I then compare these manmade constructs with natural ones, upon which these constructs intervened, burying nature in contrivances and piles of word manure.

If my preferences, my personal principles, and ideals, show in the analysis this is intentional and it expresses a fact:
There are no alternatives or frontiers to escape from this, forcing me to deal with it by first studying it, and then finding patterns within it.
My subjective world is confronted by the objective world, but also by the subjective worlds of every participant in it - and so empathy, getting into the other's mind, and seeing/feeling, what he feels and sees, is vital.

My analysis is honest, and so it does not shy away from insights your kind cover up with evasive maneuvers, fake civility, romantic words, and bullshit concepts, based on emotion, and self-interests.
My analysis is self serving, as it is uninterested in you and your kind, but only with self, and my own, and how to survive the environment I describe by uncovering aspects of it people like you bury in lies.
if some find a benefit in my insights, and find a usage for them, then I am pleased, but not overtaken with vanity.


ILP is fascinating, as I've said many times before, because it is a fishbowl, a microcosm reflecting the macrocosm, full of characters we find in everyday life, repeating the same bullshit, in the same way; believing in the same shit, which they cannot defend but feel as being best; behaving in exactly the same way as those we see on the streets and in the bars.
On line you can observe without risking the label of voyeur or creep.

As such, it is the perfect place to find living, interactive, examples of my positions, so that my theory can be supported by real-world examples.
Not hypothetical people, but actual real people.

If the declarations of IQ and MENSA membership coupled with declarations of curing cancer, of discovering the solution to everything, is tolerated there, it is because it fits into the usual behavior of the common man.
If insults and derailing threads is tolerated all the time, except some times, then the sometimes should be analyzed.
Not only schizophrenic (split personality= public/private self) but distinctly narcissistic: materialistic, hedonistic, self-referential, solipsistic, subjective; Nihilistic, where reality that does not please, or requires effort, is excluded, and replaced with words.

But I've already said this, as well.

Dear, simpleton...not only is my banishment expected, but the reasoning and that I am expected to apologize to be permitted entrance, is what I use to prove what the Modern is, and how he thinks, and what methods he sues to defend his lies with.
Not only do i not care if I am banned, but i expect it.
I lay low, for a while, but then become bored with the dullness of the ILP barn, and its shallowness...so I go out of my way to expose myself.
I accept full responsibility for being banned...


If a girls goes out on the town wearing no panties, getting drunk, exposing herself in public, should she expect the other to restrain himself, or is her first responsibility to herself, by herself?
If I am told the ocean is populated by great white sharks and I choose to enter the water smeared in blood, if I am bitten and I lose a leg, or my life, is the shark to blame, or is the first responsibility my own?
Do you expect the world to adapt to your desires, or are you responsible for adapting to the world?

Victim Jew, psychology of Modernity says the world must shape itself, suing words, to our interests.
The average modern, moron, cares not for understanding the world and life and the other, because he demands to be protected from his own ignorance and stupidity.
So, he believes in love, altruism, compassion, and universal morality; so obtuse as to have a naive comprehension of what sex is and what the human animal is capable of.

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Mind-raping the whores on ILP was a pleasure.
You protest too much, little woman.
Return to the whorehouse and go on masturbating with your fellow bitches.

So many geniuses there, and that place is still dull as hell.


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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyFri Apr 17, 2015 10:40 am

I remember the accusations directed towards L. for her threads supposedly lacking a 'personal touch' a while ago. She does put an emotional touch to her massage as she exposes her ability of understanding publicly by gathering excerpts that she claims are related to the theme of a given thread - anybody can then come and read the excerpts she has posted and judge if she indeed understood them properly or not.  I do not see how this is any different to posting your own thoughts except that it does not open up an opportunity for her to flap her vagina. Are you unable to understand this sort of personal exposure or are enraged that she does not let you smell her pussy?
You are like this bitch p. - walking around in public with their genitalia exposed and either choosing to or being unable to recognize the fact.
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One more thing, how could you possibly defeat the best IPL has if they are able to invent cures to cancer while scratching their balls with one hand and smashing the keyboard with the other?
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyFri Apr 17, 2015 2:28 pm

To understand rape, you must first understand and accept an unpopular premise. Females are property, always owned, controlled, and guarded by some types of men, constituting a "society". Rape is the biological, universal crime of accessing these females for sex without the permission of those authorities. Rape is always a crime against society, since technically, "rape" does not exist in nature. It is an abstraction of females, as property.

A female cannot be raped if she were not owned by a male safeguarding her.

The discrepancies and confusions of modern day rape, stem from the confusion of not knowing which women are owned by whom or what. Women are owned by society, the institutionalized alpha male. If a male attempts to circumvent or overpower this institutional force, this defense network matrix, then he must be a rapist, as defined by popular sentiment and consensus.

A rapist is a man who doesn't ask for permission, and furthermore violates, social protocol. Beta males and emasculated males are not rapists, because, they pose no real nor true threat to the overall system.
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Because of 'rape culture' advocates, who see rape everywhere, soon there will be people who see rape nowhere.
Everything can be a social construct, you just gotta believe...
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Quote :
“When the world knows beauty as beauty, ugliness arises
When it knows good as good, evil arises
Thus being and non-being produce each other”
 (Laozi, Tao Te Ching)


Today, there is much talk about ‘rape culture’: about [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]; about whether or not it [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]; about whether or not it exists only through the inversion of sexual desirability into an experience of sex-phobic, sexual oppression.

At the same time, there is little consideration given to what has fixated the modern attention on rape and rape culture – leisure, individualism, the related fantasies of ‘the self’, ‘oppression’, ‘repression’ etc. and the identification of the psyche alongside the medicalizations of the emotions through mental health, trauma theories, victimologies etc. That it is not simply ‘progress’ that has allowed the identification of a ‘rape culture’ – ‘progress’ itself being a fantasy through which a culture can consolidate its own orientational conceit – but that it exists only on the basis of interacting systems and theories which transform sex, relationships and the whole range of our personal interactions. Thus we can look back to the 70s in self-stupefied bewilderment and evaluate a time we pretend to have little to no understanding of.
It is not the purpose of what follows to deny the existence of ‘rape culture’. Rape culture exists insofar as anything ever exists – it has been identified, it is advocated, it is bound up in the existential experience of its numerous advocates. The purpose of what follows rather, is to make some remarks about the existence of rape culture and its subsequent black mirror, which is its negative inversion and all the inevitable counter-actions its very existence gives rise to. For in our system of endless repression-liberation, it is the fantasy of a rape culture that now inspires the legislature and constitutes the dominant form around which sexual ‘reality’ is defined. As a consequence, we energize with seductivity and resentiment all its negative, antithetical forms.






Some Clarifications




When we talk about rape culture, we are talking about it as an idea: the ascendant idea through which the society is increasingly organised – that there is a culture that colludes with rape and that this culture must therefore be dismantled. All those behaviours from ‘street harassment’, ‘catcalling’, the unsolicited gaze, ‘slut-shaming’, ‘rape jokes’, misogynistic alterity etc., and any related cultural forms must be eradicated, for they all contribute to a dangerous and uncomfortable environment for women. In short then, reversing one perceived oppression – that of women by the predatory response to desirability – with another oppression – the containment and dismantlement of that predatory response.
When we speak about ‘the fantasy of rape culture’, we do not wish to deny its existence. ‘Truth’ is always a dominant fantasy, a system whose constituent parts are always open to challenge or collapse. The rape culture is a form made up of other dominant, yet contestable, mutable forms: mental health, bio-/social-engineering, sociology, human rights, electronic involvement, ubiquitous information, the role of leisure, excessive productivity, excessive identity, the fantasies of oppression, repression and liberation etc.
When speaking about seduction, we mean it as Baudrillard did. That seduction is a mode of secrecy in opposition to a mode of productive visibility. That is, seduction concerns the attraction contained in deviating from ‘the truth’, the truth being fundamentally ‘productive’ and concerns making things visible.
“Seduction continues to appear to all orthodoxies as malefice and artifice, a black magic for the deviation of all truths […] Every discourse is threatened with this sudden reversibility, absorbed into its own signs without a trace of meaning.” (Baudrillard, On Seduction, p. 2) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
We can similarly talk about Bataille, who placed our access to ‘the sacred’ in the transgression of the law or the taboo. Bataille also noted that the experience of the sacred was bound up in the destruction of one’s individuality. And what is individuality but an extreme over-production of one’s sense of self? The self in High Definition?






Rape Culture-Rape Fantasy: Reversibility




Erin Pizzey[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] has recently enjoyed some controversy over her [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Paul Elam’s[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] view that within rape culture, there is a rape fantasy. Beyond the brash iconoclasm and provocation,[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is that the thing in common for the rape fantasist and the rape culture advocate is that they both do an awful lot of thinking about rape. For Elam, rape culture is the inversion of the female rape fantasy and, in his view, a way for women to extend the fantasy of their own irresistibility. So for Elam, rape culture is perhaps the black mirror of a dominant rape fantasy in women?
Along similar lines, one might argue that inverting the rape fantasy is one way for the informational individual to think about rape whilst preserving their rational integrity, self-ownership and individualism. In any case, these kinds of argument don’t do much justice to the experience of the rape culture advocates whose response to the inherent violence of desire seems quite unambiguous and real. Moreover, one might argue that it is the challenge of women with such attractions to produce the visible structures (simulations) through which these attractions/anti-pleasures are accessible. Pizzey’s support is part of this process, rejecting rape culture as either a suitable analysis or solution to the problem violence.
For a more tantalising interpretation, it might be enough to just say that the rape is now a dominant image in the erotic imagination and that it’s through this image we coordinate all sexual behaviour – through rape fantasy or resistance to rape fantasy. With the collapse of power into desire and desire into power (as Baudrillard has pointed out, you can now switch between the two terms at will[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) all sex is an act with stakes for the sovereignty of the individual. A sex phobia then emerges through exacerbated individualism/self-consciousness; a sex-fantasy emerges, because violence is the only thing capable of surpassing that individualism. Domination and submission become the seductive revenge on the law of individual sovereignty and sexual conviviality. Rape fantasy is a revenge on the oppressive organisational force of rape culture.
Intimacy in sex is perhaps a structure from the age of sexual secrets and silences. Here, the publication of sex was illicit and as such, its appearance could derive the properties of secrecy and exclusivity. The intimacy of violence then perhaps thrives in the structure of over-production, ‘speaking-out‘ and hyper-visibility, the secret world having now been shifted to the imaginaries of abuse and challenges to individual sovereignty.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] At the very least, the image of a sex forever haunted by violence is what results from this accelerated self-itemisation and the result is not simply the ordering of sex through sanction and imposition; rather, we also see a reconstitution of the territories of relational seduction. To remain visible, the product must berespectable, otherwise it is condemned to silence and obscurity, which is the essence of seduction. That is, the black mirror of rape culture is rape fantasy, and, more broadly, the potential for a mutuality in violence.
The film Irreversible by Gaspar Noé, deals with the potential for this kind of reversibility, attempting to find reversion’s limit. Though Alex rejects the sensitive intellectual in favour of a more brash, selfish, traditionally masculine male and discusses her attraction to a certain kind of animalism, her rape in the film is brutal, prolonged and leaves her almost dead in a coma. The film however, is played back with the events occurring in reverse order, perhaps to give this limit a degree of ambiguity. That the rape scene too was so long not only conferred on it an ‘unflinching realism’ (so say the critics) and makes a rape visible (produces it), it also, in its mirror, ensured its place in the archives of extreme pornography."


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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 12:57 pm

Zara wrote:
Women should never be harmed...idc what they did....it's just wrong to take advantage of other women...This is why people need to be instilled with the proper virtues.
I don't give a shit about rape, really, I don't think it should be a crime. But if a rapist has AIDS or HIV I believe they should be put to death, so as not to infect all the other prisoners with their disease. It's a mercy really, AIDS is a slow death and they should be put to death for raping someone and giving them their disease. Of course the average modern cannot see the wisdom of this, so like retards they propose that HIV people get sent to prison so they can infect everyone else. Rape and molestation, without disease, is often a character building experience. Do we punish a lion for raping a mare?

What's this hubris about the sanctity of women, innocent delicate spirits undeserving of harm kind of nonsense? I smell some severe disney brainwashing at play here.
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 1:00 pm

The modern hold's rape as her greatest fear. This is because it is a symbol of masculinity, a reduction and deflation of her own ego and power structure, defiliation of her pussy pedastal, trampling of female social privileges and inner sanctum, the thing on of her split ego's despises the most. The average modern loves watching people get cut to pieces on TV, they love murder shows, they laugh at blood and guts, because it depicts a triumph over the masculine, but a bearded man raping some girl is to them, the highest sin. Her split ego hates men, is disgusted by them, which is why it bothers her so, she views him as a lesser being, a disgusting half-animal, usurping her power. For the man seduction can be an uphill battle until he can overcome her split mind and seduce her to love him.
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Do you mind being done to you what you say to be "character building" - inurbutt?

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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 4:52 pm

OhFortunae wrote:
Do you mind being done to you what you say to be "character building" - inurbutt?

Depends by whom.
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 5:19 pm

If you are being selective already, preferances; then how can it be "character building - rape", because you won't have a say into who when it happens. Thus a hypocritical standpoint.
What is the "character building" aspect of rape then, even you say to have preferances.

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Say whose son thou art,
Who in Fafnir's blood | thy bright blade reddened,
And struck thy sword to my heart."


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A motherless man abroad;
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PostSubject: Re: Rape Rape - Page 11 EmptyThu Sep 03, 2015 5:30 pm

Being ravished isn't being raped.

Some anti-life-droids have been confusing people with words to convince them to deny their womanhood and manhood respectively. The joy of being ravished was alluded to to being rape and now those two things are being confused.
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