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Yes...it's not even about them.
They are a means...a way of exposing what is happening to western man, to the European man, in real-time...not in theory.

They are a living, human, (inter)active, experiment.
But I no longer have access to it.
If you just leave them be, then, like an ant-farm, they';ll go about their work, doing the same shit in the same way....boring.
You drop food....get them angry, and afraid...and then you see them run.

Ha!!!

This is getting incredibly entertaining.
Now, the douche-bag, christian, Contra-Nietzsche (as if ) thinks Lyssa, and half of the members here, are all moi....Le Satyr.
Apaosha, Dragon, Lyssa, Anfang...yes, even Magsi...


Stupidity at its best.
This is Christian judgment.

Poor Shit-Smear...he tries.
Despite his well-adjusted nature he can't get rape, and a certain kind of violence, out of his mind.
Smoking pot helps.
It calms things down...ya know?

The ache between the groin...it soothes it.
I think he's acquiring a crush on the Valkyrie.
Emasculated boys sometimes become enamored with that strong woman figure.

The "rape" reference points to a desire to avenge one's self against females...a suppressed sexuality.
He's flirting, in his own way.
He imagines it as the raping of Satyr.
Very homoerotic.

Amorphous is so sweet.
I think he's here.

Shit-Smear is confused now.
He thinks Lyssa and Satyr are one and the same..but he's not sure.
He is calmer....he thinks using "thesis" is infantile.
When you are out of school, like him...you call it...shit, or stuff.

Like..."I write some shit dude"....or..."Ya know that stuff you wrote?
It was good".

I'm beginning to think that I am Lyssa.

You know what's interesting?
That d63, that other douche-bag, amongst so many, is staying away from Lyssa's thread.

Just the title is enough...like garlic to a vampire.

We know one thing for sure...other than that shit-Smear is all talk, Mag should not moderate anything but her interventions, Blurry is horn(y)...and Morono is someone who visits or who is a member here.

Oh, and ILP is populated by imbeciles.
Ya know, for a bunch that prides itself on their group's popularity, I don't think more than a dozen actually participate there.

6500 members?
Garbage.

Morono is psycho-analyzing me.
It centers around the verbal abuse of those he most wants to be with.
I must be leveled down, because I exposed his herd and rejected its basic principle: all deserve...all are holy...weakness must be protected...
You can believe anything, just do not let it become pragmatic. Everything is tolerated if it remains theoretical.

The Libertarian wants to escape nature...liberate himself from its determinations.
To accomplish this he is willing to be a slave to the artificial world of men, within which everything is tolerated if it does not contradict the basic shared premises

Too bad that "nothing in excess" does not apply to "know thyself".
It has to do with otherness, and is intimately related to knowing who and what you are, and so what you want and how much of it, to be content.
Knowing yourself determines what is excessive.

I am always more critical of myself than I let on.

These turds always want to find that weak-spot to diminish what they cannot be like.
Luckily, abuse is not what I practice towards those I agree with, and those who display a humility towards the world, nature, but not towards any other man.

I abuse the life-haters, the morons, the cowards, the arrogant buffoons, the hypocrites...and not for any other reason but because they confront me in a world where I cannot escape into any other frontier but the internal one.
But it is true...I do not show myself to everyone.

I consider it an act of trust and intimacy to be so open.
Whether the other hates or loves or admires me, is trivial, to me...I know it to be ephemeral, and so I do not take it as seriously as my ego wants to.
I've always said that this Satyr character is my partial self. The part I repress, to survive in this Modern world.

A common practice among the herd of Modern sheeple:
They rarely say anything about the argument, except to imply that its debunked or science says otherwise, but only focus on the individual exposing them to it.

For example, the Morono, says nothing about my positions, but only about my hypothetical motives...the supposed underlying psychology.
Conveniently negative, of course, because only those thinking like him and his herd are to be considered healthy, with no negative motives or underlying psychological ailments.

I wonder if he is as cutting with those of his kind, or if he considers it healthy to just settle for the world and for hedonism and for some ideal called Libertarianism.
How healthy is Shit-Smears?
How healthy are those Christians who think they deserve eternal life?
Finally, how healthy, is this Moreno, who thinks civility is anything but systemic hypocrisy?

It's as if anyone who dares say out loud what they are thinking they must be fucked.
Philosophy is about repressing thoughts...not exposing them....it's about high-brow, referencing, and using the appropriate words, with deference to the appropriate authorities.Telling an imbecile that he is one, is a sign of illness.
Being direct and honest, like a man, is frowned upon...all must behave in that back-biting fashion all girls use.

It's as if listening to some moron speak of the coming Rapture is something one should respect...or ignore, because by ignoring it the stupidity it is produced by, goes away.
Silence should follow the most ridiculous arguments...or we must tip-toe around them, trying not to step on their toes and hurt them.
Hurting must be avoided.
But their world is OUR world!!!
Offering weakness respect would reinforce their confidence in their own stupidity.

This is why Satyr was invented.
You see back when Wanderer was still ignorant about the retards populating these supposed "philosophy forums" and he was surprised to find that most of them attacked him, rather than the ideas presented.

Wanderer morphed into Satyr...but the same old methods persist.

One more thing...this obsession with Nietzsche is a bit tiresome.
I would consider my ideas more Hellenic, Schopenhauerean....and Heidegger was the only one that shaped my views, somewhat.

I read Nietzsche when I was 29...my world-views were already established by then.
I was not some desperate teenager looking for a father-figure.

He, along with Schopenhauer, gave my concepts words....and I was inspired by the fact that these men, who thought what I did, would dare speak it out loud.
But then, they lived in a far more open society...and not in my Modern, politically-correct, feminized one.

This is when I began to write.
I haven't read Nietzsche in over 4 years...and the only contact I have with him is on-line, when someone quotes him, or mentions him...or accuses me of being a Nietzschean.
These days, anyone who has a Traditional perspective, who is more realistic, is automatically associated with that most famous realist.
It's becoming a joke, how pre-Socratic thought, and variants of Paganism, and Traditionalism, and anything hinting at anti-Modernity is now labeled Nietzschean.


Just to set the record straight, for anyone still confused:

I am not claiming to be saying something new...in fact uniqueness is what I reject.

I am not looking for converts or followers...in fact I've been harsh with those that ask me for guidance and advice.

This has nothing to do with me...as I am but a warrior in a war.
I am no leader...nor do I accept the responsibility of being one.
I am defending certain ideals, against the onslaught of stampeding buffalo.
Nobody is my minion...they are friends or foes...and they go their own way.

Whatever motives or dark, unflattering motives you may seek in me....it still does not challenge what matters: the ideals I defend.
I may be the most despicable, needy, fucked-up, character alive...still doesn't contradict the ideas I post, and the ideals I am dedicated to.
you are free to project whatever psychological failings in me....does not matter.
This has little to do with me.

I am no Nietzschean...for I actually disagree with parts of his views and I consider the 'eternal recurrence' a nonsensical test...and a derivative of the Hindu reincarnation myth.
I stand against both Schopenhauer and Nieatzcshe in their positions on Will...as Will, for me, is a manifestation of an organization of energies we call life...and has no other meaning outside of that.
The universe has no Will. Life is the emerging Will of the universe....just as man is a potential God in a world without one.

If you are looking for a Nietzsche worshiper look no further than Sauwelios.
I consider him an anti-Nietzsche Nietzschean...because he idolizes the idol-breaker.
His attitude contradicts the very person he admires...making him an comical and tragic figure of emasculation.
The homoerotic element is undeniable.

But thanks for caring about my shadow.

This is not about me...it never was.

The truth is, these men-children, cannot contradict my beliefs, they cannot slander my ideals....so they settle for what is easier: they attack me personally, making all kinds of aspersions.
They never do so with anyone else...but only with me.

Why?

Because they cannot figure out why anyone would be so willing to be hated by the ones they want to be liked by.

They cannot understand how anyone can function in this alienating, materialistic, hedonistic, Modernity, without actually buying into the bull.

They cannot understand why anyone would dare to speak openly about what they thought about someone who was obviously idiotic...because that's just bad Karma.

They do not understand why anyone who could, chooses not to belong to the "in-group"...so he must be compensating for his failing.

They cannot imagine anyone thinking outside the text...so they must place me in a box and label it Nietzsche...or Nazi....of sexist...or racist...or hater...or whatever derogatory word they find the most insulting.

Some idiot thinks I am saying that 'eternal recurrence' is the same as reincarnation.
Some idiot thinks that challenging the masters, is in bad form. One simply surrenders to the rich and famous.

I guess he's more like Sauwelios then.

Glad to see Fausty coming out of his drunken-stupor, and joining with Tabie, in letting me know that...yes!!!...they are still alive.

Douche-bags, remind me of Christians debating the Bible.
They think that the debate over what Jesus was, or what was meant in this or that passage, is evidence of their intellectual integrity...when, all along, the shared underlying premises, are taken for granted.

Watch them join hands, against Satyr, and Lyssa....proving that, no matter their petty, minor disagreements over nuances, they hold something fundamental in common.
It is what binds them into a herd.
The rest in internal jostling, forming hierarchies.

They did not like having their clothes ripped off...forcing them to look at what lay hidden underneath the outer garments.

MagsJ wrote:

I will respond to the post that brought me here tomorrow morning GMT - I'm a lover not a fighter, so don't fret none

And??????????????

Pls. reveal the big mystery.


I think I know what it is.

Being chided in your own forum by your own fellow members; you can't take it, can you?, and so you come here for a little peace and quiet where people are self-moderated...

I think that's a good enough theory...

Don't bother..it was nothing.
Something about how we are afraid of change and change is good....

She has no clue.

Remember that a response, especially on a philosophy forum, should consist of more than a single sentence so inane and lacking in any insight as to be meaningless.

I think your nonchalance is a defense mechanism, an attitude concealing a deep insecurity regarding your own intellectual abilities which is embarrassingly clear from your every post. Does that not explain the need to associate yourself with a rigorous intellectual discipline like philosophy? A mind of poor quality (a black one), one which knows itself to be inferior, seeking acceptance and recognition amongst superior intellects, in these times when all must feel included and necessary.

Your role is to prevent conflict, maintain the status quo, to go on protecting the weak and unfit from reality, because without such fences you yourself would not last long. All ideas must be reduced to a featureless intellectual sludge, less they develop teeth and become harmful to some.

'First do no harm', bleated the sheep nervously as they eyed the circling wolves.

The madding crowd my dear is exactly where you need to be to survive.

MagsJ wrote:

I did say that it was in response to a specific post, in one of my DMs to you Satyr.

I highly doubt that one would find peace from the madding crowds here Lyssa, and their responses to my moderation amuse me at the very least - I will respond to the offending post, but I fear I lost the will to care to...

So I was right; you are looking for peace.

And something could even offend you here, after the shite you take there...? Now that's something, that's even ticked you off... pls. continue.

It would be the height of irony if Mags came here to get away from the idiots on ILP.

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Sorry, can't see it.
Thanks, brown cow.
Like a good herd member, you stepped in and saved them....and yourself...your participation.
You proved yourself worthy of their trust.

Fabulous, though.
They imitate, trying to redeem themselves.
They can't stand the possibilities of what may happen if they engaged the real world....they lock it up.

Recidivist wrote:

Remember that a response, especially on a philosophy forum, should consist of more than a single sentence so inane and lacking in any insight as to be meaningless.

I think your nonchalance is a defense mechanism, an attitude concealing a deep insecurity regarding your own intellectual abilities which is embarrassingly clear from your every post. Does that not explain the need to associate yourself with a rigorous intellectual discipline like philosophy? A mind of poor quality (a black one), one which knows itself to be inferior, seeking acceptance and recognition amongst superior intellects, in these times when all must feel included and necessary.

Your role is to prevent conflict, maintain the status quo, to go on protecting the weak and unfit from reality, because without such fences you yourself would not last long. All ideas must be reduced to a featureless intellectual sludge, less they develop teeth and become harmful to some.

'First do no harm', bleated the sheep nervously as they eyed the circling wolves.

The madding crowd my dear is exactly where you need to be to survive.

She seeks value amongst those she judges as being valuable.
She's becoming skeptical.

What have we witnessed, firsthand, and in real-time, form this little exploration experiment...using the rat house?

We've seen how the delusion of freedom, and free speech, can be maintained, by brainwashing middle-men, to do the censoring.
Once indoctrination takes place, no overt force is required, except in some rare instances, to control what gets allowed in and what is filtered out.

I made a YouTube vid, describing how corporations filter out the unwanted, promoting those that will be trusted...and then giving them a free hand...relatively speaking.
Same goes for any Modern system.
In ILP, Magsi, the brown cow, the christian, felixdacat, and many others serve as peer reviewing magistrates, deciding what is to be permitted and what is to be excluded as being too hurtful or disruptive or, potentially, harmful.
Carleas, the fag, being the upper filtering administrator, needs not intervene, after he's chosen his filtering minions.

The imbeciles permitted to participate are continuously judged, by these middle-men....their wrath directed at them.
Carleas is the shadow-figure...the man behind the curtain, the Wizard of Oz...himself a byproduct of a grander culture, which he represents and reflects precisely.

The illusion of free-speech and freedom, is maintained in this way.
The participants are judged, daily, and so their adherence to the shared delusions is present.
But, as it often happens with humans, some of them may stray.
Here is where the first level of control, steps in...in the form of the brown cow, Fausty, back in the day, the retard felix and all.

They have been chosen precisely BECAUSE they agree with Carleas' foundational ideals.
He, in turn, is a reflection of the Judeo-Christian cultural system, and is a reflection of its ideals...otherwise he may be taken down....or, at least, he would lose popular support by the myriads of retards out there.
Carleas wants numbers. The more the better.
Just this motive makes his focus more upon the average...the mediocre...the lowest common denominator.
It also agrees with his own personal world-views, making the practice seem even more free.
He chooses the individuals who represent a wide gamut of acceptable norms, as his moderating team.
All of them, although at first appearing diverse, share common ideals. Theya re in tune wiht the acceptable norm...and so will mirror what is out there, in the social system.

There is no force required...no stepping in...since the lower ranks manage to filter out, early on, the Satyrs of the world.

The herd is protected. It does not have to defend ideas it does not understand....or can justify. Mostly because the ideals, in this case, are nihilistic, and easily exposed as such by someone who knows...and knows how.

I knew you turds had come over.

I defend my views gladly.
Tell me which one...let's take them one by one.

There are no straws, turd...not in this case.
We have behavioral evidence over spans of time.
We have specimens acting and (inter)acting.
I am interpreting it.
Could I be wrong?
Of course....
Could I be right?
Of course.

I let the reaction direct me...you dumb-ass.

Shit-Smear, is that you?

Turd...it's a "message board" titled "I Love Philosophy"....what do you think philosophy is, turd, socializing?
Turd, philosophy is about sharing personal insights about the world...including humans.

Banned...again!
As expected.

The angle now is "Why does Satyr go to ILP?

It is the same question Americans use to prove how "great" their country is: Why do all these people want to immigrate to the U.S.
Of course, envy is implied. That too is predictable.

But, in my case, the answer was already given in one of my posts there.
They either ignored it or cannot understand it, though it is very, very simple.

Whatever...moving on.

D63 is an obsessed Weakling, going about throwing challenges and showdowns with KTS/Satyr/"Neo-Nietzscheans", only to NEVER SHOW UP HERE.

If he's too chicken, any of the ILP-Lurkers here or his Plebian friends like Schizo-Smears who sees teddy-bears and fantasizes on cyber-rape, are welcome to take up from the hot air he's left off.

I can't imagine any serious Nietzsche-journal taking a clown like D63 seriously, when he says, "the right approach to becoming a Nietzschean Overman" AS IF it was a 'project', an 'enterprise' open to all, AS IF N. did not specify this was for a SELECT species of men with certain dispositions and temperaments *and* genetics, AS IF N. did not specifically state anticipating morons like him that the Overman was precisely NOT to exist for the sake of humanity and the weak.

"Fascism" rooted in a "mis-reading" of N.? Someone tell that clown, I can't wait to hear his manipulation of the "right reading" of N.

And while whoever's at it, someone tell him to grow some, and show up, drunk and all for the extra bravery.

d63 wrote:

Of course, no one will agree with me.

I mean: who would want to confront something like a dragon?

And those Neo-Neitzschean kiss asses on KTS?


They don't know shit about the will to power.

(It's a lot easier, and a sign of a weak will, to stand with the strong than it is to go down with the weak


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d63 wrote:

At the same time, I have to oppose the KTS continental approach in that I believe the only right approach to becoming the Neitzschean Overman is doing so for the weak. It seems to me the only reason that God, or fate, or whatever you want to call it, would determine an individual to be as such would be for the heroic. It would be a gift and should be treated as such.

d63 wrote:

Anyway, I feel like starting shit with someone tonight. And why not Satyr on KTS?

d63 wrote:

Having read his interview, it seems I have found an unlikely ally in the far more scientific minded thinker of Hillary Putman –and on 2 fronts. On the Satyr/KTS front, I have his distinction between compassionate ethics and “macho ethics” which I have previously described as the neo-Nietzschian gospel filtered through Social Darwinism and Ayn Rand. He further associates this to Fascism rooted in a misreading of Nietzsche.

I've sent a Private Message to the clown D63 saying:

Hey You

SHOW UP or don't.

Lyssa wrote:

I've sent a Private Message to the clown D63 saying:

Hey You

SHOW UP or don't.

Do you expect a response, in between alcohol binges?

I doubt if any of them has a stomach for anything outside the popular.
Their imagery is set.

If you oppose their delusions, then you must hate....or, be intimidated by their females, or what passes for one amongst them.
Emotion is their only argument, because its the only one they use to support their own fantasies.

Satyr wrote:

Lyssa wrote:

I've sent a Private Message to the clown D63 saying:

Hey You

SHOW UP or don't.

Do you expect a response, in between alcohol binges?

A coward should be exposed for being a coward. What better way than to have him expose it himself by not showing up after the "daring" private messages and posts he has sent! HE is going to prove himself he is a spineless coward.

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I doubt if any of them has a stomach for anything outside the popular.
Their imagery is set.

The annoying thing is at various places he's expressed his blatant hatred for N. and Nietzschean elitism, but then he also wants and desperately wishes N. were not so, and so says, people have "misread" him.
The popular parts of will to power diovrced of all contexts is what attracts cowards.

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If you oppose their delusions, then you must hate....or, be intimidated by their females, or what passes for one amongst them.
Emotion is their only argument, because its the only one they use to support their own fantasies.

Its a fantastic spectacle - to watch how much dishonesty self-preservation will not accomodate... which would have been fine if the clown kept it to himself, but when he wants to educate others as it being "the" right approach, "the" right picture, he's got "the" right interpretation and everyone who doesn't agree is a Neo-nazi........ is HE anything more than the Fascist he feigns to hate?
Whatever.

A word on another plebian MORONO who came here to remark we should stop saying and repeating the same things over and over... but does he or anyone question why the lambles will NOT move beyond THEIR SAME hedonistic reasonings and criticisms? What has it EVER amounted than some sort of comfort, safety, pleasure, laziness...

Has any Lamble offered a refreshing criticism other than the above, a Refreshment they desperately seek from their bored and miserable lives.

Morono and his well-meaning dribble, so pathetic.

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Didn't take long but they've restricted my posting privileges over at the, so called, philosophy forums.
Not a single insult. Not one word, out of order.

Chalk one more up for "free speech" and the, hypothetical, philosophy.
The only philosophy accepted is the one that caresses the ears, or speaks through surrogates, called "authorities".
You cannot speak of reality, though you are a part of it, unless you use the proper channels, speak in the proper language, and offer the proper deference.

Let the slow-coming darkness be quick.
This Dark Age will be vicious.

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posted a thread for the hell of it. responses have been crap.

smears is so dumb it's almost unbelievable.

I feel you man.
A single not politically-correct post is enough to get the attention of the flies. The now admitting that they are incurably depressed bunch.
Smears is practically brain-dead. He's living the western apocalypse, in his simplistic brain, and medicating himself to endure it in a way a modern should.
Blurry is a butch-bitch, still unsure why she feels so shitty when she should be on top of the world, and free to enjoy it all.
Kriswest, is an old hag, playing mother, with her dry vagina monologues.
The three of them, along with the brown-cow, Magsi, are the ILP floor managers. They give you a first, quick, shallow, taste of what is to come once you get seated and the waiter comes to take your order. A bit more depth follows, but nothing outside the club's theme, and its bottom-line, self-evident, truisms.

I, myself, discovered how much language has been hijacked and institutionalized.
You can't use the term Modern, in the sense that you are referring to the current, cultural, state of affairs, without having to go through the guy who, supposedly, coined it, or how it is being taught in academia.
No thought permitted, no creativity allowed, outside the already established coinage, the currency, the current.

I recall once using the Greek term autopoesis, in the original, definition, as "self-creating", and being assaulted by the established usage of the term as Mutarana and Varela chose to utilize it and what conclusions they came to with it.

I am surprised ego has not become trapped in Freudian conceptions and Will is still a word relatively free of Nietzsche and Schopenhauer.
If language is a medium of self-expression then self can only be expressed, in these days, through an other; a more famous, infamous, popularly acknowledged other.

I wonder if I can use the phrase "desert of the real," and the imagery it evokes, as a description of cultural decay, without remaining true to Zizek's analysis, and his Marxist leanings.
This is how the mind becomes trapped in institutionalization, and even philosophy, the practice of exploring the real world, becomes this stale, pompous, display of prideful entrapment in prescriptions and rigid texts.

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You may also have noticed, after the tentative's intervention, how individualism has now become a term referring to indifference.
Nothing maters unless it is immediately of concern to the individual. the individual lives in some conceptual bubble, with little interest about anything that does not affect him/her directly and obviously.
The social and cultural repercussions of homosexuality are of no concern to anyone, because living in their own world, means that a phenomenon has to be immediate and unavoidable.
Whomever is interested in a broad picture must be afraid because the only reason to act or to think is due to an emotional, and direct, threat.

Why study germs if you are not going to get sick?
Why analyze bear behavior if you do not live in the areas where bears live?
Why be concerned about meteors if the odds of one of them crashing into the earth are tiny?

It's the type of perception which is characteristic of modern western types.
Something has to be "in their face" before they acknowledge its relevance.
A perceptual-event-horizon, so contained that one can compare it to that of a fish living in a bowl.
The first (re)action to your post about homosexuality was a "why do you even give a shit?" kind of attitude. the easy conclusion, taking themselves as an example, is homophobia.
For them thrir doctor enjoying pushing bottles up his rectum would be of no concern, since it does not participate, in their mind, in the doctor's overall quality or nature. He's just a professional who is a bit kinky. If they have use for him then they do not care about what he does in his spare time: the social role is divorced from the individual's nature, unless you fall into those groups disapproved by popular decree: pedophiles, fascists and the usual suspects.
Shoving bottles up your anus or cocks, is of no relevance, and it reveals nothing about the individual, except that he enjoys anal stimulation.

I was really enjoying your posts on PF; not one uncivil word, or impoliteness and yet.

I messaged Beatnik, saying its absurd to ban someone now simply because he was a banned member in the past, but no point reasoning with dishonest 'humans'.