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And I will never respond to you again, if and when you post.

Ta, Ta,

Its not the quality of your prose Satyr; just the modern mentality of reducing philosophy to some repeatable formulae and flashing it as an accessory. Sad to see how the impregnation took only two weeks before primal starts calling you names like tyr. does. Standing upto someone comes to mean putting them down with emotional taunts.
Everything is absorbed emotionally. Images and how one is perceived by others is mistaken for real strength.
Being one's self means winning at all costs, getting across a positive image somehow and mistaking this for confidence.

Its not him though,, just looking at the whole education system, and how it trains young men to look at others as someone they must overcome instantly to appear as an "individual".

To be an individual means just standing on top of it at any cost; what matters is not learning, but appearing to rule and having the last word.

Satyr wrote:

Quote :

The trick is to be in and of the world, and not to confuse this with man-made constructs that try to replace and to heal and to correct it away.

The world of man is not the world at large. Man carves out a small part in a corner of existence, and there all kinds of things he creates ...sometimes to aid him in adapting to reality, and at other time to aid him in escaping the world's indifference.

To be "of the world," for you, means be part of human constructs.
The current is not always the superior.

A beautiful form, inherited, may display symmetry due to genetic health, but it may also hide dis-ease, which has yet to manifest as appearance, but does so in asymmetry of mind.

In 1688, Jean de La Bruyère expressed these transgender wishes, "to be a girl and a beautiful girl from the age of thirteen to the age of twenty-two and then after that to be a man."

and

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—
That is all ye know on earth, and
all ye need to know.” –John Keats,

Nevertheless, as unfair as it may seem, appearance is the most public part of the self. It is, the visible self that the world assumes to be a mirror of the invisible, inner self. This assumption may not be fair, but that does not make it any less true. Many intellectuals, such as yourself perhaps, would have us believe that beauty is inconsequential. Since it explains nothing, solves nothing, and teaches us nothing, then it should not have a place in intellectual discourse, yet there is tremendous power in a young woman's beauty.

To be of the world for me, does not mean to be part of the human constructs and I question your authority on that statement, as it must all come down to supposition. There is a certain amount of detachment in my choices, but for me, this is necessary to create some degree of logic in those choices.

If one chooses company with a harlot, one is sure to be influenced by her eventually.

Who said beauty is inconsequential.
Beauty is physical symmetry, revealing a healthy past.

The problem with it is that like with Capitalism the capital is inherited and often squandered, because beauty is power and necessity is the mother of invention...therefore a person born with an inheritance, of capital, will sit on it, and it will atrophy.
The one who does not inherit quite as much will work, and work, to compensate, and therefore he may bring about future beauty, after he's developed intellectual symmetry.

I said that consciousness lags behind.
If one observes details then the beautiful may show symptoms of a cumming decay, just as something less beautiful may show slight signs of a possible future beauty.

I officially resign from ILP

Postby Tyrannus » Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:02 pm

This latest ban of mine from ILP for twenty four hours proves that there is no free speech around here where what we have at this website is authoritarianism by the moderators. They pretend that they're all for free speech, but the reality is when they come across speech they don't like they forfeit their masks for complete censorship every chance they get. I for one will not take it any longer. I will not be belittled like this anymore from this website or any other. I officially resign from ILP. I'll still be around on the forum and active, but for now on only working within the shadows unseen carrying forth my own internet agenda.

I will however give a sense of gratitude to my latest banning in that I've never been more determined and motivated to create my own separate internet website and hub away from all these pathetic censors. True philosophical expression has no limitations or boundaries. These modern populist absorbed philosophers have yet to understand this.

In my temporary exile from ILP I have created my own forum only this time this site will not be abandoned like previous attempts and experiments as I now have the financial capital to support my very own foundation of internet operations. In the coming months I will advertise this forum all over the internet in a variety of languages as I will even have a international language section.

I have a dream and that dream is where all the nihilists, outcasts, criminals, freaks, rebels,anarchists, and sociopaths of the world unite on one forum or website on the internet. For too long we have had to scratch out a existence in the shadows hidden from the majority of the sheeple population. For too long we have been the scorn of civilization. I for one want to see the light of day shining upon us where we rise and overcome our adversaries in a climatic battle.

My aims are simple. Create the largest nihilistic center on the global internet ever devised.

Here's my new forum: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Nihilists of the world unite!

I invite anybody to come join me in the Why_So_Serious? global organization that I am building.

In the coming months I am going to be recruiting prospective individuals from all over the world. We're going to make this happen.

I am drawing a line in the sand in complete opposition to the false masters and phonies that have taken over the world through institutionalized authority everywhere.

I am declaring war on them and it is my hope that will be many who will take up arms with me.

With enough strong men banding together on one center we will be unstoppable and we will force the world to take notice of our message of total defiance.

We will become the new internet underground and overtime we will be the website that people will fear talking about.

Yeah...
Funny thing is the herd of ILP receive our spillover, the ones we reject as Homoioi, and they then need to cast them in the role of the average poster here.

We've never banned anyone, but the ones who do not cut it here tend to run to where they feel they are more connected: the common, the average, where declarative statements, and discussing toiletries, is "philosophy."
They run to where they feel a common ethos...ethos from the Greek ηθος, εθημο, the root word meaning tradition, habit.
They go where they can find those who share the same mental habits, the same memetic traditions.

This is a typical "argument" amongst the herd:
"You are wrong."
...or...
"You are a racist, sexist, homophobe"
...followed by the usual sarcasm and cynical insults.
You can't expect more than this.
Sometimes they rely on complexity or on indisputable evidence, to hide the absence of argument, or of any evidence supporting their side.
The only "evidence" is popularity, commonality, a shared meme.  

The caricature is quite interesting because it exposes them, as the self-identifying, opposite of those they despise: the victims uniting against bullies; the healthy ones who suffer no fear, no anxiety, because they love and are open as they cocoon themselves further; the rational ones who repeat the same values, the same common principles, as if they were a given.
Such simplistic reasoning could only construct a simplistic adversary, a very base scapegoat.

For instance, the other who confronts them is accused as the one governed by fear, without actually having to deal with the content of his argument.
They, as the opposite of him, are not afraid...they are fearless as a child is under parental care.
The parents are the famous ones, the institutionally recognized, the specialists, and authorities.
The herd need not think, on its own, because their thinking is done for them. All they are burdened with is reading the text, the code; memorizing it and then deferring to it.
Once done they can remain cynical, dismissive, casual ...unafraid, uncaring, indifferent.

So, when I say all creativity, is rooted in anxiety and that the mother of all emotions is fear, they take this as an admission that excludes them.
In their either/or nihilism one is either totally free of anxiety or totally dominated by it ...courage not how one deals with natural anxiety before the unknown, but courage as this denial of self, denial of the emotion which is central in their thinking.  
The modern nihilist must deny, completely, what characterizes him.
His psychology is one of rejection, of absolutes and turning away.

We see the common ground they have with the honest nihilist, the and one, the anarchist.
They feel the common ground, they find it romantic, and it is part of their idealism, but they cannot admit it because it presents itself raw, and honest, whereas they have adopted duplicity to cover their tracks.

Vrilseeker wrote:

What is ILP?

A club for sheltered minds.
A Nihilist Camp for children addicted to codes, where most of the participants do not consider themselves nihilists.

The title stands for I Love Philosophy, but by "philosophy" what is meant it casual banter, bragging, posturing, hiding, declaring and deferring.
Philosophy there means: give me a rational reason to not hate myself, and to annul a world I despise.
It's like a self-help group, where the inmates learn techniques and acquire technologies for dealing with reality ...by dismissing and ignoring it.

Consider how one self-identifies, and how he perceives his own group.

It would appear that addiction to codes means that whomever uses words to describe reality is like the nihilist: hiding behind them.

The one who rejected Mensa, because he was way above it, doesn't seem to provide evidence for his declared vast intellect.
The rejection was used as a symbol, a word, which he cannot live-up to with deeds, with actions.
It was bragging, Shit-Smear style, with no significance.
All indirect, and coy, and pretending to be detached from the intent.
See, bullshit is permitted on ILP, if it is not overt and in your face.
So a moron, who contributes nothing intellectual on a forum supposedly focused on philosophy, can start a thread trying to attract female attention, and then indulge in indirect self-promotion, but if it is more direct, then it is ridiculed by those competing on that level.
The bullshit level must be maintained on a certain level so that it is never exposed as what it is.

He is "genius" material - or he tries to promote himself as that - but, remarkably, shares a world-view with retards, and has never posted anything which would prove his declared higher status.
This is what I meant by bragging, and empty words, being used to hide rather than reveal.  

In the reversal, the rejects from KT when rejected again, return to the home, that rejected them before, but that tolerates anybody, of any quality, if they do not spurn the shared code.
They reject only when it disturbs the bullshit, which is supposed to unite and comfort and include all.
Doesn't matter how stupid or degenerate you are, all that matters is that you remain disciplined to the word: humanity.
No God is not dead. He's changed His name.

Those "intellectually open" are the ones closing the doors, hiding behind electronic walls, and those who call themselves elitist and discriminating, admitting that they are so, are the ones who allow anyone in, if he remains disciplined to some very basic rules such as no double monikers, and no flooding the threads with the same posts, remaining on-topic.
Ironic that the "healthy" ones, the "fearless" ones, close the windows and the doors, but the ill ones quarantine, and permit access to one and all.

The nihilist insists on using perspectivism to protect himself from a world he hides from.  
Everything is reversible, because all words are detached from sensuality, from reality.
All words remain self-referential.

Therefore, one form of elitism is the same as another...and positive/negative has no real meaning for the hypocritical nihilist, who cares, but cares not.

Based on the above, we can see modern nihilism and its duplicitous lies in practice over on ILP.
A "philosophy" forum where anything but philosophy is tolerated.

Yes, referring to authorities of philosophy, is acceptable; deferring to thinkers in place of personal thoughts, is permitted; declarative statements expressive personal taste, is allowed, if it is within the established norm, the modern, or what is called politically-correct.
What is not, is any idea which disturbs, and/or disrupts.
Any idea that challenges the very premises of all-inclusion, and universal respect, a whore's love, and expected civility no matter how stupid you might be.  
We can agree that Torn-Annus was crazy, like Pditty, and that Primal is naive and narcissistic, and has a long way to go and much to learn, but none of these members were ever banned from KT, despite the fact that KT does not pretend to be Democratic and all-inclusive, offering pretentious, respect to imbeciles and braggarts and morons.

Here respect and loyalty is earned, not expected nor given just because it is in style, to do so, or the norm in modernity.

In Primal's case, he was not even reprimanded, but only directed to ILP where mediocrity is tolerated and narcissism is permitted, as in Shit-Smears and Bull-Dyke and Krissy the mother Hen and that fucktard who claimed all is relative, implying that all is equally valid.
I love what Fausty has done to the place...like a good dog, reflecting his master's qualities.
Like, Only_Humean with his selective stringent application of reason demanding exacting argument and absolute evidence only when he finds it personally distasteful and contrary to fashionable norms.

Primal also expressed an affinity for Torn-Annus and so his level and his interests were revealed as being against what KT stands for.
How he imagines organizing those who are against organization, hierarchies, authorities, is something he'll have to work out with his non-leader leader.

But, here, all are allowed in the Agora, and are only banished to the Dungeon when, like Torn-Annus, and PDitty, they flood all threads with the same shit, derailing them all and turning KT into another ILP.    
Still, we never banned any of these members. Not even when some returned with guises, and indulged in Satyr bashing, or attacked other members.
We love attack, if it remains on-point and uses arguments. All insults are permitted, if substance is included, or if a special threat is created, in the appropriate section, dedicated only to that.

Despite being self-professed elitists - although what form our elitism takes has been misunderstood even if it has been repeatedly defined - we still show more tolerance, than the "open-minded", "healthy", Modern, Mensa rejecting ones of ILP.
I've never seen so much talk about intelligence and about personal I.Q. levels by those who have zero to show as proof of it...Only_Humean's stringency in this area turns a blind eye, and is more forgiving, reflecting his level as well.
Hypocrisy is more of a nihilistic method, and there are plenty of Nihilists on that forum.

It takes morons to allow so much stupidity to go on and on.
How else, can a moron pretend to be smart, and interested in reality, when all he has are words disconnected from reality?

We welcome all members, though they may be rejected from other forums, but we do not embrace them as our own.  
The colour schemes we use to paint our members are meant to define who is tolerated, who is welcomed, though is not our own, and who is of our kind.

No bullshit here.

Consider the victim psychology behind the term bullying.

Here we have a hatred for anyone who dominates ...trying to find some psychological weakness to belittle what cannot be confronted.
Like with Christianity who with the pretense of humility, selflessness, imposes the most life-debasing, bullying upon mankind ...lowering all to the uniform level of eternal victims of existence.
The Jew uses his victim-status to victimize those who he cannot stand against alone.

He rallies the masses of sheltered kinds, against the ones they, as individuals, cannot confront.

Those weaklings now represent the bullying of the state, which imposes and demands and represses.
They find strength in numbers and using the bully as an emblem of all they feel insecure about, they gather in groups, to bully the bully.

Herd psychology anyone?

Take a look at this turd trying to hide:
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Uuuuummmmm, no you Mensa moron, no casual banter here, no bragging is permitted, no nihilism because we engage reality we do not run from it, no code addiction either, you imbecile, because we know what words are and why we use them.
No, you pompous arse, who pretends to be smart with big words, replacing ILP with KT fails.
We do not tolerate idiots, and that is why Sil-Da-Dill, you are not here.
The retarded, bragging, with no content, you get away with there, would not be tolerated here.
But we would not ban you here, like your handlers do to protect you there, we would tear you another hole.

Not only are we not nihilists, but we seek out the real in everything.

We keep our ILP-like members in the green and orange.

Our territories do not overlap, you moron.
We live in reality, you exist behind the walls in never-never-land.
You can have your rejects back.

This turd is the perfect example of what I've been saying.
Look at what he did.
He took a sentence full of words referring to concepts, and simply declared that it applied just as much to KT, as it does to ILP, admitting that it applies there.

This is how Nihilists simply flip concepts around because none of the words they use is connected to reality. They are used as an effect, to impress, to construct an illusion.
It does not matter what nihilism is, or what banter is, or what bragging is, all that matters is the emotional content.

Words can now be applied anywhere, because they emote, they refer to a mental abstraction disconnected from a real phenomenon.
Like Mensa...a title implying what in reality cannot be provided. A reference to a mental construct, which is connected with an emotional reward.
"I am smart" is indirectly implied, because bragging must pretend to be humble.
But what is implied has no reference to anything real.
It is an ideal, a word, using to describe self but which does not correspond to an action.

The word acquires a mystical quality, for the modern, for the effete nihilist.
It's a magical spell, that implies, an ideal which need not refer to the real, to an act.
It can be used in whatever context, to flatter and to comfort.

Beauty, for example, becomes magical, like love.
All can claim it...all are beautiful and loving and deserving of love, because the word does not have to refer to an act, to something real.

An ugly person can say
I, too, am beautiful" and all nihilists will nod in agreement, because the word is meant to comfort, and is meant to emote. It has no reference to anything in reality, it is not defined...it is a mystical code, which all can hold a claim upon, like God ...like Intelligence.

Any attempt to define it by connecting it to reality, let's say connecting beauty with symmetry or genetic health, is frowned upon. This is cruel, authoritarian, fascistic.
The word must remain detached, aloof, magical ...applicable to all or to anything.

Same with God, same with intelligence.
Nothing to show for it, but the claim the declaration is enough.
All must agree, must permit, so as to then be allowed to do so, as well.





Take Sil-Da-Dil as an example of this Nihilistic methodology.
He lurks about, in between declaring himself superior,  with no reference other than his words.
He hides behind a mask, pretending to be above it all, and accusing others of doing what he does.

Then he returns to the walled-city to declare that KT is just like ILP.
He did not read the words, he simply felt the intent.  

It didn't matter what the words I used to describe ILP referred to, what mattered is what he imagined the intent was: self-flattery. He concluded that, yes, KT is like ILP...because it self-flatters.

What nihilist, banter, hiding, referred to in reality was inconsequential...the words being used were the same noes used there....ergo, for this moron, they were used with the same precision and the same connection to reality.

This is why when these stunted kinds use words like love, equality, fairness, justice, humanity, you an be sue that they are used with no connection to anything other than an emotion, a vague sensation.
The words are empty of content.
Symbols with no referential point outside the brain, the abstraction - concepts detached, mystical, magical, floating in mid air ...groundless.

So, when Sil says "I am smart" what is he saying?
Nothing.
His words are emotional symbols of intent.
They have no connection to reality.

When d(63 says "I luv ya man" what does it mean?
Nothing.
A platitude, an empty phrase.

When the Bull-Dyke says "Sexuality, and sex, is not about copulation," what is she saying?
Nothing.  
Empty words, vagueness, referring to a mental abstraction, a feeling, a sensation, with no relation to anything actual.

When Shit-Smears says "I am an intellectual" what does the phrase mean?
Nothing.  
It's an emotional appeal, detached from anything concrete.
Talking just to talk; talking to self-flatter, to numb, to comfort, to weave a web of deception.
Empty banter.

When PDitty or Torn-Annus declares himself king of the world, or a nihilist or an anarchist, what is he saying?
Nothing.
He has no concept of what nil is, or what an unorganized organization is, or what a social grouping with no hierarchy would be like.
He imagines destruction, war, fires, gun-battles, vengeance, and he on top of the heap, with a few maidens at his feet...
In other words pure fantasy.

And his a difference between absolutes and degrees.

One thread focused on casual banter, just to play with the turds on ILP by lowering ourselves to their level, versus an entire forum mostly about casual banter and where all threads, even those that begin with an interesting subject, being reduced to casual banter .
Why?
Because of the genetic feces allowed to run around in there, because of some democratic principle which is selectively adhered to, and which represents that group's shared identity.

Here is the difference between saying a forum is superior, to claiming personal superiority with words rather than deeds.

One attempts to set-up an environment where the individual can rise to the occasion; the other is a weakling, a moron, using words to hide how simple he truly is.
Mensa membership aside, this turd exposes his real quality with his actions, no?
No words can mask that.
Actions speak what the word tries to inflate or deflate.
There's no mistaking a deed, but a word is easy, it can be faked.  

He finds nothing to say here, but he says plenty there, amongst those of his kind.
This act alone, says a lot, particularly since nothing which he posts there is ever interesting or outside the acceptable lines of what is considered "self-evident" modern truths.
One would expect a mensa member to be more than a just another modern.
 
There he is a "genius", no doubt, engaging with those he can easily impress.
Look at how he did not bully Primal, exploiting that boy's youth, simply because he came from KT.
He exhibits no such animosity to members on ILP who are far more naive and simple than Primal is.  
Again, actions...

He's a coward that hides in the corners, and then says "I have a black belt" amongst those that would not be able to disrobe him.
So, Shit-Smears is more fascinating for this turd, with his bathroom designs, and his modern, cutting-edge lifestyle.
I'm insulted.
Interesting, no?
Actions speak louder than words.
Tell me who your friends are...and all that.

So much for credentials and words.
But was not Maje, the brown-cow, also almost a mensa member?
I would be impressed, a bit intimidated, if she also failed to actually live-up to what she wanted to imply with ...words.

Did not James once claim to have solved the uncertainty of science, with an absolute fact theory?
Impressive, at first, when one looked at the words, but then ...*pooffffff*...nothing but hot-air.

Yes bragging seems to be a KT thing.

Let's see, one thread or two, becoming a casual discussion, versus an entire forum, with a few notable exceptions, being dedicated to it ...but holding onto the "philosophy" lie, to pretend.
One thread used to bait - and how well it does so - versus an entire forum pretending that it is philosophizing when it is socializing.
And our casual banter thread, does it not draw him and his kind near?
Does he read anything else on this forum?
No ...he restricts himself to where he feels most at home.

Next week I'll start a few new threads here, just for him and his kind:

"What are you doing?"
"What are you thinking?"
"Help me with my kitchen woes."  
Maybe...
"What are you wearing, or smoking?"

Do you know what I really like?
The "Does existence exist?" question.
It was fabulous.  
Little Sil, you stay there behind the wall taunting from afar - no problem.
Then come here and curl up in the corner, repeating to yourself "I am smart....I AM smart" - no problem.

When you grow a pair, you know where to find me.
I am everywhere and behind everyone ...but forever just Satyr.
Remember, I am a coward, not like you in your brave anonymity.
I hide my real name, and I use many monikers, like your ilk, to cower in the darkness snickering like a girl.  

I think I'm done with you, 'cause now you are becoming dull.

Ta, Ta,

Pheee...Phi...Pho...Phum....

The rejects are rejected and having returned to their original barn, they are used as examples of what they are not.
The barn animals confront them, and seeing the weakness in them, use them as examples of the wild-ones.

They say:
"You came from the outside, from the forest, where we banished you, and now you return. You must be one of those who lives out there. How pathetic you are."

In this way the domesticated sheep feels less afraid of the wolf, even if it is dealing with a dog.

And to prove my points, an example of bragging, with no reference to anything actual ...in fact a declarative statement contradicted by events - words referring to no actions which would make them more possible.

The incredible edible Shit-Smears....
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And I quote, because I do not want this to be lost in an editing reinvention of the past:

Shit-Smears wrote:

Between 1996 and 2003 I probably took about 1000 hits of lsd. I've spend more time in an introspective, meditative state than you could possibly fathom. I used to squirt puddles into my mouth and stay up for days walking the streets of the city and listening to the sounds and feeling myself mesh with the world around me, I contemplated more things in that state of mind that anyone ever mentioned in the 26 philosophy classes that I took. I've stretched my mind to the limits of perception so many times that I could literally guide the tour for anyone who thinks they can come along. Me? Not introspective? Maybe instead you should view me as the result of an overabundance of introspection, to the extent that I've seen my self in such great detail and in such depth that I'm beyond the need for self analysis. I really think you've got me all wrong here. I mean...are you calling me shallow?

 
My God he is magnificent!!!!

All that modern living on the edge, and still he has the time, every day, to spend 3-4 hours on-line posting this shit ...Saturdays also.

Bragging and mindless banter, at its finest.
All declarative statements.
He farts tornadoes, and pisses waterfalls, and if it were not for the fact that he's an obvious simpleton, all this might be believable....almost.

Like when Sil declares himself above Primal, and how he uses words precisely declaring himself as belonging to a open liberal forum, with no selective censorship.
Events contradict him, and his inability to offer evidence of that often stated brilliance, he declares himself as possessing, leaves us wondering when mind-farts became philosophy.  

For the next performance, Blunderbuss will declare herself man's equal, and just as smart as any male ...and then our own resident PDity, new and improved and wearing new clothes, will engage them on a level they are all more than accustomed to.


Now we can understand why they must believe, though it is contradicted by events, that I am claiming to be an alpha-male, or that I am some kind of overman.

It's themselves they base this assumption upon.
Their humility is really a ruse to hid that inflated ego, trying to appear more than it is, because it is stunted.

They have no clue what an overman is, but it must be some muscled, warrior, with a big dick, because that's the only way they can think.

Check out Sil-Da-Dil-Doh trying to show us that brilliant brain:
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All benevolence and cooperative reasoning. For Sil, all is clean, no exploitation, no manufacturing consent, no fabricating value by controlling production and marketing.
Despite that Mensa mind men are pure creatures gathering together to agree on what is fair.

Can anyone link me to one of this turd's post with some "value"; something that does not remain within the box?
I've never come across such a pompous ass with so little to be pompous about.

Fuck!!! What have I done?!
I've wasted my valuable time on so little.  

Value?
Always a relationship of man with time.


Check out this other example of ILP greatness...Stuart.
He sounds like a fag, and that he's been following me around only makes me feel uncomfortable ...[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

I quote:

Sturd wrote:

Uccisore, I haven't really been closely reading your dialogue with D63, but I'll say something in his defense. You're likely aware of the Satyr's essay the "Feminization of Mankind". It essentially sums up my form of conservatism. D63 is very familiar with it and has been engaging him in discussion for years; trying to get that guy to defend his work (which Satyr is seemingly no longer capable of doing).

Whomever has been present in one of d(63 many visits here, this statement is hilarious.
Discussing anything with a drunk, who comes here to vent his anger against reality, by using Satyr as a scapegoat, is not what I would call constructive criticism.

He "understand" yet he has been wrong about everything he's accused me of.
I'm supposed to take D(69 seriously when nobody on ILP does?

He comes here full of liquid courage, and has nothing to tell me other than insults and Nazi references, but, for this imbecile, he is worth my time and what he thinks is actually something that matters in the context of my essay.
D(69 actually boasts about how feminization is fine by him, so what is there to discuss with an emasculated drug-addict?

I'm obliged to respond to every imbecile with a gripe, and a vengeful word to tell em to my face, because I've got nothing better to do than engage in inanities with these weaklings.


I do not respond to anyone who fails to understand my positions, even though I've posted pages upon pages of text, or who has nothing critical to offer which goes beyond declarations, references to Nazis, racism and sexism.
I'm done with the level of discourse.
When I do involve myself in it, as I am doing now, it is to play, to toy with little minds.

If I'm going to take something and some,one seriously then I want a rational, well-thought out, critique, based on what I have said not what he thinks I've said or feels I've implied.
I'm not going to take drug-addicts, clowns and simpletons seriously.

Being confronted with assaults of the type: "hater, "sexist", "racist", fascist, Nazi, can only be entertaining for so long.

Watch how deferring works:
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And I quote:

Unni-scorn wrote:

The one time I say 'conservatives' instead of 'educated conservatives', and I have to qualify myself?

Let me make it clear- d63 is comparing uneducated dipshits he encounters in grocery stores and the "Rant House" section of our website to actual liberal academics, and - surprise surprise- he finds the liberal academics make stronger points. I observed this fact, and offered myself as an educated conservative he could pick the brain of. Instead of asking me questions that would help improve his paper, he defended his choice to write his paper without consulting any sources.
Seriously- he literally spent 2 days explaining to an educated conservative why it was fine that he wrote his paper without consulting any educated conservatives. Time that could have been spent asking me to defend positions, or clarify ideologies, or explaining the difference between neo-cons or paleo-cons from an insider perspective, or anything. But no, he'd rather say "It's my right to write a paper with no credible sources if I want to!"
It's willful ignorance, and it's caviar to the left.

I'm the "dip-shit" of course, and his entire forum is NOT a vast Rant House where discussions occur via proxies, if they do not deteriorate into mundane babbling.

Translation:
"I have no clue, I cannot argue my points, but there is someone out there who can, and you must find him. Here's a book with text."
 
This is the wonder of deferment, and referencing.
You can dismiss anyone present, as long as there is a possible other, somewhere out there, who might know more.
Most on ILP do this.
They have no argument, no evidence, but they know that someone, somewhere does ...and they defer to him.
It' like Christians with God.
Remember how Shit-Smears argued against race realism by saying that "scientists" have already responded and debunked it? He could not say who or where, but he knew it in his heart.


[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is Fausty, the douche-bag, expressing the true purpose of philosophy and the forum he ran into the ground:

Fausty wrote:

Who can respond to all existence all at once? That's crazy talk. Get a job, get laid, get a good seat at the movies. Live. Don't think so much. Do not try to "respond to existence". It cannot be done.

Get laid....check....get a job....check...and now for the hard part....get a good seat at the movies....check!!!

I've completed the course on how to remain obtuse, and be eligible for ILP membership.
and all those "philosophers" had it all wrong. they wrote books on existence, when they could have been lining up for the theatre.
The un-examined life is worth living, after all.

Thanks uncle douche-bag.
The secret to life?
Just LIVE, maaaaaaan.
Cheers, *burp*

The Joker wrote:

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When she bended over I could see ..............

What poor grammar and spelling indicates is one of two things.

1. You're not intelligent enough to write any better, or

2. You don't care enough to write any better. Either impression is negative.

Stu-p-id#523 is using d#63. He seeks to undermine Satyr and in the process he exposes himself.
ILP will be grinded into the ground by its own members in a cannibalistic frenzy.

Another example of ILP stupidity, and Nihilism:

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The underlying premise being that women, and men, the human species, is monogamous...therefore to seek multiple sexual partners must be an illness.
Nature=Disease....being dumb=healthy.

This has been covered, by me, about a million, or so, times, before.
Not only why females, AND males are promiscuous by nature, but under what circumstances, other then culture, society, morals - MEMES - are the higher end humans forced to remain monogamous.

There, they are still exploring reality using the nature, erasing, glasses, they purchased at Walmart.

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How the ILP Herd exposes its true colours, and how it mirrors the hypocrisy, of modernity and its nihilistic methodology.
Not only are their own ideals contradicted with the behaviour of the members and the moderators working on behalf of the head-moron Carleas, but what is revealed is what they cannot tolerate for long, because they fear it may expose this hypocrisy.

Why nihilism?
Because it is the perfect internal brain-washing method, the best ideology, philosophy to control the herd.
It erases, annuls, all natural identifiers, creating an internal uniformity, and then it substitutes those identifiers with ideals rooted in social utility, in systemic ideology.
It is the most duplicitous and indirect social engineering strategy; a subtle eugenics.

Of course, these turds on ILP have no clue. They are only the product of their culture and this they reflect perfectly.
Evidence of this is that in a medium where all ideas can be spoken, theoretically, with few personal consequences, all, but a few, dare go outside the social and cultural lines.
Most cannot think outside the social and cultural norms.
They are forever contained, boxed-in, by them.
The moment anyone says something outside of them and they all pounce with the usual emotional accusations, and personal insinuations.

When they do, if they do, it is always via an authority an other; one they can then hide behind and later accuse, if need be and the social pressure becomes unbearable, unburdening themselves from the possible social costs.

This is why I've called ILP the best specimen jar, the perfect fish bowl, if wishes to observe modernity, decay, nihilism, in all its multifaceted glory.  

Not only Only_Humean and his selective demand for posters to provide evidence, and indisputable arguments, for everything they post, but now this other douche-bag moderator who banns, because he could not wait for the opportunity to do so, when he permits worse infractions to this pseudo-philosophical forum's rules.  

The arena is fixed.
Culling, using normal methods of competition, and inter-personal debates, is not allowed.
One can post inanities about bathroom design, or "what are you thinking?" or any stupidity that crosses his mind, and if it does not cross the modern line of what is considered proper, then it is defended against ridicule and exploitation.
But place one who does not agree with these communal moral principles of nature-nullification, and he will be banned in a heartbeat.

But do not worry, Maj, the brown-cow, and the other mensa member on the ILP membership list, has entered the conversation.
Watch and enjoy.

I, the "fascist," how much more tolerant than these hypocrites, these "democrats," I've been.
I, the self professed "overman," and "alpha-male", have never displayed the level of empty arrogance these turds do on a daily basis.
Can anyone link me to one instance where I've claimed to be an alpha, or an overman, or an ideal?

I am an admitted elitist, and anti-democratic, and yet these turds, who pretend to be my adversaries, are a lower grade elitist: morons who think being stupid is cool.
If contradicting your own declared principles is duplicity, then there you have it: ILP
If declaring your are smart, and a cool dude, and that you've fucked all sorts, and seen many things, and yet you cannot offer evidence as to how this has made you better, though you are on-line, day after day hours at a time, then there you have it: ILP

Imagine a moron, like Shit-Smears, bragging, day after day, in direct and indirect ways - twice on Saturday nights - or an imbecile, like Sil-Da-Dil-Doh, who looks down on others, as a self-professed Mensa member, and yet has nothing, NOTHING, to offer as a reason to do so.
Can intelligence be faked?
Can I just say that it is so?
Nope.
Voila...specimens of duplicitous, over-compensating, inferiority-complexes, trying to impress with nothing more than ...WORDS ...when actions, ACTIONS, say otherwise.

If you are all that ...then "show me da money!!!!!!"
Where is the result of your experiences, and your vast intellect?
WHERE?
See, Ephemeron, this is why the internet weeds out the pretenders from the genuine.
You can't fake intelligence, when the physical is excluded.
You cannot reinvent the past, when the text is written and on-line.

See what bullying is?
The masses, made up of nit-wits who on their own crumble, use "bullying" as an excuse to run for cover behind electronic walls.
Outside those walls they would be bitches.
Within them, Shit-Smears, Sil-Da-Dil-Doh, D(69, Maj the brown-cow, Bubbles the Bull-Dyke and others in the barn, can pretend, and brag, and declare, and self-flatter.

Imbesil wrote:

Sil-Da-Dil-Doh sounds more like an insult, but might I suggest "Dildouette"? - with or without the u.

Write your own polemics.
I'm looking forward to them...ImbeSIL.

They hide behind electronic "rules" and rulers, and then declare themselves "open".
They taunt, from afar, and then tell themselves that they are brave and that they are tried and tested and that they are this and that.

Well, here I am.
Open to any critique if it is on my real opinions and not what some simpleton, some imbecile, thinks they are.
I've even made it easy for you, by offering a brief encapsulation of my REAL views, so that anyone can challenge them.
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I used to entertain attacks against me personally, but I am older now, and I have no time for imbeciles wanting to vent.
I got banned from many forums because the imbeciles could not deal with my replies ...and/or the moderators thought it prudent that they protect their core membership, the many with whom they felt an affinity, from a Satyr.
So be it.
My motive was not bashing swine, but finding gems.

Bring on your mensa warriors, and your deep thinkers, and your well-read intellectuals.
I have reality on my side.

I do not have to do much. All I must do is say:
"Look, you moron!!! See that? Now, explain why you deny your eyes."

Satyr wrote:

They hide behind electronic "rules" and rulers, and then declare themselves "open".
They taunt, from afar, and then tell themselves that they are brave and that they are tried and tested and that they are this and that.

Well, here I am.
Open to any critique if it is on my real opinions and not what some simpleton, some imbecile, thinks they are.  
I've even made it easy for you, by offering a brief encapsulation of my REAL views, so that anyone can challenge them.
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I used to entertain attacks against me personally, but I am older now, and I have no time for imbeciles wanting to vent.
I got banned from many forums because the imbeciles could not deal with my replies ...and/or the moderators thought it prudent that they protect their core membership, the many with whom they felt an affinity, from a Satyr.
So be it.
My motive was not bashing swine, but finding gems.

Bring on your mensa warriors, and your deep thinkers, and your well-read intellectuals.
I have reality on my side.

I do not have to do much. All I must do is say:
"Look, you moron!!! See that? Now, explain why you deny your eyes."    

How dare they taunt from afar, while giving themselves airs! Howw darrre theyy! They're fools. Clearly, anybody can see that this is about finding gems. Just look at the thread.

I don't blame you for lamenting that they don't address your texts... because of course who better to address your texts! --Who better than rabble...

Those iiidiots! At least you have the truth and clear-sightedness. You have reality, as you say.

Bless your generosity!

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Everyone's opinion and thoughts must be 'respected'.
And so all discussions circle down the drain of mediocrity.

Nobody has to come from the outside to do so. But if, within a group there can be no wrong and everybody starts talking about subjective and all is relative when someone points out a folly then all gets leveled down, eventually.

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Everyone's opinion and thoughts must be 'respected'.
And so all discussions circle down the drain of mediocrity.

Nobody has to come from the outside to do so. But if, within a group there can be no wrong and everybody starts talking about subjective and all is relative when someone points out a folly then all gets leveled down, eventually.

That's the cardinal rule, of course, the all-binding, all-uniting, common principle of the modern herd mind.

No matter how stupid you are you "deserve" equal say, equal respect.
If you do not show this "respect", which is fake, you must be banned.
Why?
Because it does not work for lifting the numbers, for popularity, and if the idiot is treated like what he is then who is next?
Carleas?

No culling in the barn. The farmer is the ruler here, and he decides which bull fucks and what cows are the ones who choose.
On ILP we see the modern, real-world, application of human husbandry - memetic selection with the rules twisted in favour of the ones who are more useful, more loyal to the common meme.


You will, undoubtedly, see another pattern which binds this herd together.
They use ad hom as a defence because they indulge in it continuously.

Let's recall the shared traits of this Modern world herd, not uncommon on-line or off-line, but in fact a reflection of real life types and methods and psychologies.


1- Self-Aggrandizement with no Content
Because words for the herd need not refer to anything real, anything (inter)active, they can use words casually, like one plays with toys.

No definition will be attempted, beyond a general dictionary one to aid in communicating, because then this would bind the word to an attempt to connect it with reality rather than retain it in a semi-detached state to be used by anyone, at any time, for any purpose.

Anyone attempting to connect a word with a real-life phenomenon, attaching it to the world rather than letting it float in the divine air of the beyond, will be ridiculed.
The slightest imprecision will be used to discredit the entire attempt.
The word must remain a magical, mystical thing, with healing properties. It must be sanctified, so as to cleans it from this dirty world full of violence, discrimination, and injustice.
If a Bull-Dyke says sex has nothing to do with copulation, we must all awwwwwe, and oooooh..not one putting her in her place amongst the other imbeciles, and if Shit-Smears wishes to declare that philosophy has nothing to do with value judgments, we must forgive him his stupidity, and find that motive of holiness, cleansing him of all primal, decrepitude.

Anyone who dares will be attacked personally with the herd's shared bogie-man terms: Nazi, fascist, racist, sexist, homophobe, anything connected to fear, because fear is what most governs their psyche.
Then some sarcasm, cynicism, an feigned aloofness to finish the defensive job, returning the herd to peace.

Fear, like with all insecure minds, is what they must deny in themselves, so as to not discover that most of their views and their behaviour is directed by it.
So they cast it as an attack, to disarm the other.
Bragging, patting one's own back, self-comforting, are common practices.
Here intelligence is a number with no application.  
Some herd-member can declare his genius and have zero evidence to back it up, except for the usual supportive contributions to the shared, considered "self-evident," beliefs.
The herd-member, in a show of overcompensating insecurity must declare what he cannot show.
Therefore, referring and deferring to authorities, established, establishment, thinkers, is an association of power, where the weaker mind enjoys the famous mind's fame and fortune viscerally. Referring to other thinkers, while the world passes them by, and to books, implies that they, also, have seen, when they've never looked; they never dared.
The only reality they dare think about is the one that comes to them regurgitated, filtered, coded, chewed-up for their easy consumption.
This is why I call the herd "by the book, of the book".
They are children of text, of Biblical proportions: the sacred and the satanic, good/bad, absolute, not-absolute.
The electronic wall protecting them is, ironically, a code, a mathematical code, keeping nature outside, as it does in real life.      

2- Selective Reasoning
Here the two standards to determine two phenomena, is a useful tool, and one which is most effective if all are on the same page, are in agreement that this is necessary.

So, whereas empiricism is fine, appearances when it comes to humans, are not; where all agree that Evolution Theory is the most probable explanation species come about, the intermediate stages of species splintering, when it comes to humans, are dismissed as lacking sufficient evidence, where the evidence at hand, real life experiences, are dismissed as social products of white-male domination; where specialization is accepted as a survival tool in all cases, it is denied when ti comes to human sexual specialization; where they tackle complex issues like giddy schoolgirls, in all cases, they resort to the "complexity" argument to not think when it comes to the human species; where no evidence is demanded, not even a coherent argument, when it comes to those in their herd, when they smell a thread suddenly their philosophical stringency tightens up and if you cannot provide absolute evidence and indisputable arguments - impossible given that there are no absolutes and only degrees, hierarchies higher and lower probabilities - then you are ridiculed, in a show of communal bullying, which brings me to my last example: if you dare to put one of the herd members in its place, after it has attacked you, personally, wanting you to flee, then watch how they herd gathers in numbers and begins the process of isolating and degrading what they cannot face - this past method is only possible, obviously, if the administrator and the moderators are part of the herd psyche.
This is why they do not quarantine, but they ban, the remove.  The electronic wall is like a barn fence.
Behind it they are all brave, and free to be as stupid as they wish.
The farmer doesn't care, because he's part of them and he's milking them dry...as in "donations", advertisement...etc.  

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], as another example of banishment just like that, in direct contradiction to the forum's own stated principles, proves my point.
Here, we do not claim to be democrats or open to stupidity, but there they profess to be open-minded, and liberal, and honest.
How many thread closed, and members banned for the smallest infraction when mountains of them are toerated elsewhere?

3-Words as detachment Tools
For this herd words, language, is not a tool, an art-form, trying to connect, to represent, to attach the mnid the abstraction to the real, the world, the phenomenon.
No.
For them the word is a perfect tool for detachment, distancing, hiding.
This is why they oppose any precise definition of concept and avoid connecting them to observable, perceivable, (inter)activities.
They will attack any attempt at precision because they wish to remain within perspectivism, where any application, and idea, no mater how stupid and detached from reality it is, will "deserve" respect and will be "given" the right to present itself, unhindered by culling possibilities.
Philosophy, language, used as a narcotic.
The more detached from reality a mind is, a word is defined as, the more fantastic it is and unreal and contrary to nature - as in past - all the more seductive it becomes.
Philosophy, if it does not settle as a discussion through proxies (name-dropping, deferring, referring, avoiding personal conviction), becomes a childish game of fantasy, science-fiction, creative imagination like a computer reality; an alternative world for children unable to deal with what is before them, as in outside the modern artifices.

Can'tBeBuried2 wrote:

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Still, we never banned any of these members. Not even when some returned with guises, and indulged in Satyr bashing, or attacked other members.
We love attack, if it remains on-point and uses arguments. All insults are permitted, if substance is included, or if a special threat is created, in the appropriate section, dedicated only to that.

Before you start to worry that I will start making my own threads again, let me assure you I don't intend on posting outside of threads where I've been addressed, nor will I create another account here should this one be banned; it is tiresome. I asked you questions before you banned my previous account, that you left unanswered. Firstly, I have a new question; why do surround yourself with sycophants?

Hey coward.
Already you've insulted, and implied an insult as well.
Good start, douche-bag.

I'll take it as a rhetorical question, since those who agree are not necessarily sycophants.
This forum, you moron, was created to gather like-minded individuals.
A place where your herd cannot censor. It is a gathering place ...where members are urged to go off and gather data, knowledge, experiences, for our group to share in.
You may not know it, but there is a hierarchy, with the blue colour indicating an inner circle of friends, with an Adyton, only we can participate in.
All you see, is the Agora where all types are welcomed - even morons like you - and, if they disturb or flood the threads, as TornAnnus and PDitty did, or if they continuously change masks, like you do, they are placed in the Dungeon, and the other masks are burned.

Given that you begin anew with the same insults, I will deal with you in the same way.
Here there is no Carleas, or the tribe of hypocrites to protect you.
You act like a douche-bag, you will be treated as one.
 
Turd, I will not have my friends insulted just because they agree with me.
Agreeing with Satyr is not a vice, you moron.
You accuse, and insult personally, and you expect to be treated differently, you weak fuck?
We are open to all methods, moron, and we adapt. You come here as a douche-bag, we adjust to your level, we lower ourselves to meet you head-on.  
Nobody here to protect you from your stupidity, douche-bag...no nit-wit moderators, like on ILP, to save you from the consequences of your actions.
Culling is at play, here.
Do, or Die.  

Quid pro Quo

Is disagreement automatically an indication of parity?
Because in your case the evidence says otherwise.
If I disagree with a moron, am I his equal?
If someone agrees with me, that he is a moron, is he a sycophant?

Can'tBeBuried2 wrote:

As for you and your lackeys' vague criticisms of me, why not make one of substance?

Douche-bag, you enter once more casting aspersions empty of substance, and you wish to be given substance?
How have you earned it, you coward?

Saying you disagree, moron, is not substance.
Saying Satyr doesn't get laid, is pathetic, is not an argument, you douche-bag.

Expecting to be treated with respect when all you have are misunderstandings based on how a weak, mind has interpreted my views, is the kind of expectation your herd is known for.
Why not go back where you belong, turd?
Why did you change your moniker when it was never banned?
Do you like pretending and lying to yourself?
Have you changed?
No...look at your entrance: same douche-bag, using the same feminine ways, expecting something other in return.
What's a douche-bag, by any other name?
If a douche-bag changes his name is he no longer a douche-bag?
No, because the actions a douche-bag is characterized by is what the word describes, and if the word changes this does not mean the actions have changed.
You act like a douche-bag, and so whatever moniker you use, this action is what defines you.

How long before you are ignored or back in the Dungeon, if you keep this up?

Here is a better place for you:
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I hear there will be girls there ...he hopes.
It's a "Satyr Bash"!!!
Hurrrah!!! for the girls.
Just imagine how many brilliant new things you will hear there ...like when Fausty defended his master's "slightly, but not totally, open-door policy (come one come all, if you are not a party pooper), and turned the forum into a Shit-Smears, look how great I am, venue, where everything can be declared if nobody gets hurt.

Warning:
If you flood the threads, as you did, with the same crap, you know where you'll be locked doggy.
On-Topic, doggy.
If you want to bash Satyr, to make yourself feel better, and you don't want to participate in the anarchist party, organized by the head-anarchist (that in itself is hilarious) you can start a thread on it, and place it in the right forum.

Get it douche-bag?

Canterbury2 wrote:

As for you and your lackeys' vague criticisms of me, why not make one of substance?

so

Canterbury wrote:

A nihilist hears several statements of complete idiocy and contemplates the idiocy itself. A non-nihilist hears several statements of complete idiocy and contemplates what can be done about the idiot himself.

All that precious time that people have wasted on you. Filling a bottomless barrel. At least they may have learned something about themselves in the process.

Stup id523 wrote:

Firstly, I have a new question; why do surround yourself with sycophants?

Who is looking for Satyr's approval? An avid reader of this form, such as yourself, should know by now - even if he's stupid - that approval seeking is frowned upon and that well argued opposition is something which is most welcome. Opposition is not about being a cunt, er-bear ye with me?

Don't know about you guys but yesterday night, when KT was being assaulted and mocked, I felt a tingling on my scrotum.

Not anything big, just a slight itch...like a young woman running her hair over them.
It was a pleasant sensation.

Please, we need more of these assaults ...my scrotum is left dangling.