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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Satyrnalium - Page 10 EmptyFri Oct 14, 2016 6:56 am

I guess we've all heard by now about this new fad, the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] as they call it.

Well, I would not be Satyr if I did not attempt an explanation.
First of all, I want to flatter myself by admitting that I've been reporting on creepy clown for years.
I call them creatively crazy, to soften my earlier titles for them: imbecile, retard, moron, man-child, genetic garbage....
Intellectual clowns sighting had began long before this became a physical phenomenon.

You know the types....you can find clowns of any variety on ILP (I love prostitution, I ove prostituting myself?), or on BTL (samwitch, extra ham, and mass-turd) or some such venue where clowns seem to gravitate to - birds of a feather.

I think there are basically two reasons for this new trending fad.
I could write a long piece, most would skim through and some would ignore, but I'm retired now.
I'll keep it as short as possible. Most of it I've covered, so some brief comments will do.

1- Leisure.
People are simply bored.
no mater how many hours they work, this controlled nihilistic system offers such protection that a brain evolved to deal with more threatening austere circumstances eventually accumulates so much energy that it begins to feel pressured, like when you do not have sex for a while, to release, to relieve one's self.
But, who can deny, that most people are morons.
This excess energy can, and often does, be directed towards more constructive outlets, but when you lack the integrity of mind, the talent, both potentials inherited, or when the pressure makes you desperate, the release is not orgasmic but is more similar to taking a shit.

The "theory" here, the hope, comes from the monkeys typing on typewriters metaphor.
If you bang away, with other monkeys, for a large enough period of time, Shakespearean quality work will accidentally be produced.
A concept contradicting evolution and why intelligence emerged to not be prisoner to this rule of inevitability, over huge periods of time - intelligence makes it all more efficient.
Instead of having a billions imbeciles chattering away, we have a few, a small number, of perspicuous minds thinking in rational, ordered, intentional ways.
The motive is to produce something with popular appeal - to be marketable. Appreciation received in words or, preferably, money, the code of choice for the average clown.

I'm not saying these "creepy clowns" are doing it for the money, but that the typical clown does.
Other than a few sensitive types who do it to see the children laughing who are rewarded by their happy faces, most clowns do it for monetary rewards.
I have called this "crazy creativity" or "creatively crazy".
Basically it is the production of insane, yet innovative ideas, attempting an extraordinary effect, similar to painting your face in ungodly ways, and acting out a character that no biologist would recognize.
It's rooted in the need to be seen, ironically, beneath all the make-up, the covering. To be seen and not recognized.
A need to not be invisible within all the uniformity - suits dresses, the everyday clown uniforms.
Innovative clowning around - a regression to childhood fun.
 
Okay, that was a bit long, so I'll compensate by keeping the second point shorter.

2- Identity Crisis.
This has been covered here, and elsewhere.
It's a crisis born of miscegenation, the previous mentioned sheltering, uniformity, we also know as Globalization, a misnomer...it is the culture of no culture Americanism in all its inglorious Hollywood brilliance.
Denying sensuality makes the form something casual, something unimportant.
What does it mater how one looks when appearances have already been damned as authoritarian, preventing innocent souls from achieving their life dreams?
When sex is restricted and a man can go to jail for flirting, what is left but what is permitted, in films and in entertainment venues: caricatures, pop icons, clowns, all kinds of faked identities.
How else to make an impact than with these bizarre, creatively crazy ways?
How else to be seen, and not recognized?

How else to cut through the time required to produce a work of value, than to type away, trial and error - not requiring much brain power or talent.
Imitation, pretending.  


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Okay, back to basics...
Existence is counter-intuitive, which we attempt to intuitively grasp and convert into rational conceptions - abstractions.
Reasoning is a form of ordering - finding patterns connected into bigger cohesive, patterns.
Intuition has an advantage over reasoning, based on a disadvantage.
It does not require higher cognition. It is part of an organism's naturally evolved essence.

Females dominate, in this area, because they only have to feel, intuit, phenomena, without clarifying, or understanding them - their reactions are quicker, their judgments instinctual and immediate.
The feminine, is the basest, most primal part of human nature, in both males and females.
Female choice adjustment is now part of urban mythology.
Simpler females have simpler feeling, sensations, and are quickest to judge and then to change their minds, adjusting to the new circumstances arising, intuitively, because of fluctuating existence.
They are insulted when they are asked to justify their mood swings, and change of heart.
It's an accusation assaulting the essence of their womanhood.
What they lack in clarity and depth they more than make up for with adaptive speed, fast and furious judgment calls - they've resumed you up by the time you've introduced yourself.
Socks, hair, dirty nails, untied shoelaces, a scar, a slight twitch, a lisp, a glance...all processed in the b link of an eye.

The world's counter-intuitive essence is dealt with with an imprecise, vague, sensation - adapting to the fluctuations of (inter)activity.
Chaos and complexity, are processed as mystical, experienced with sensations, feelings, emotions.
The words used are supposed to be mystifying, to reflect the imprecision of the abstractions they are expressing.
Plausible deniability, a shifting form mystical to rational, and they would justify it as being a mirroring of how the cosmos is.

Females and stunted males - men-children - are annoyed at the suggestion of clarity.
Clarity is demystifying.
Light scatters shadows, returning them to the darkness of space/time.

I am not suggesting that intuition is wrong, but only that it can also be used to hide ulterior motives, by purposefully fabricating mystification when the world is mysterious enough as it is.
A motive that pretends to be mirroring cosmic processes when it is advancing counter-cosmic theoretics, built on ambiguities not reflecting world but purposefully manipulated to create their own delusions of world.
Must I mention Christianity, again?
How about Judaism and Islam?

Feminization of Mankind
Yes, indeed.
Humanism is now learning to construct its own Abrahamically inspired, mystifications.
Nihilism, the concept, for example, or the very concept human.
Human, now, implies an asexual, unnatural idea, abstraction, that can mean anything.

Unnatural in that it cannot be found in nature, outside human environments. Has never existed and will cease to exist if the humans keeping it in mind, perish.
Then we return to the viral metaphor.
It can be coded, converted/translated to a form that can lie crystalline, dormant, awaiting a host - words in a book awaiting eyes to read them.
A host primed, by knowing, by being able to decipher the code, just as a virus only infects a host that is accommodating to its reproductive patterns.

Intuition is what we call instinct in animals.


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Because when I speak, using words, I use them artistically, metaphorically, and not as static absolutes, which would contradict my own positions, the concepts of masculinity/femininity are fluctuating, reproductive types, meting into one another.
The dispositions facilitating the sexual role of one type, is a behavioral potential, made-up of multiple patterns, of varying potency, manifested in each individual differently....and in the same individuals lifespans changing in balance.

What I said in the previous post combined with the above, would direct us to the emergence of biological males who lack a developed feminine side. The reason for its stunting can vary
For some it is genetic - inherited lower potential - for other sit may be environmental, nurturing - shaming, forcing the individual to deny that pat of himself.
We are not talking about homosexuality, which is also a product of hormonal imbalances in utero and when the offspring is born into a environment that cultivates its already strong feminine disposition.
This is more subtle.
A healthy male may have a strong feminine side without having the slightest homosexual tendency.
His masculine side is stronger. It spontaneously dominates.
We experience such individuals as charming, as clever, but they can also be unstable.
If confusion destabilizes the dominance of the feminine it may begin overpowering the masculine.
Dreams, fantasies, and sometimes experiences under some form of inebriation, will hint at this instability.
This may not be obvious, but may be perceived indirectly, through the ideas expressed.
Brain is the hub of the nervous system which is the connecting conduit between mind/body.
Through the mind's processes, its mind, we receive the instability ni the form of a left-leaning irrationality, or a very feminine desire to mystify what is already mysterious enough.


Feminine mystique is a form of mystifying what is clearly, and rationally, genetic.
There's nothing mysterious about females, unless you buy into the modern need to ignore nature and genetics - then their genetic verbally expressed behaviors, contradicting their actions, are perplexing.
By this I do not mean all woman are simple, only that they are not complex because of their sexual role - it is more clarifying than confusing.

Every individual, male and female is complex, reflecting existence as Flux, due to an unknown past/nature, an observer would require time and observation to begin to unravel, not being misdirected by the minds ability to lie and to hide, but also reflecting fluctuating circumstances forcing the individual to adapt, or die.


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Desiring to demystify is the same as the desire to order.
It is not an end result, a final destination, but a continuous struggle towards.
The world is already mysterious and increasingly chaotic, to add to this may hide a dead-wish under the pretext of idealism.
Reasoning is ordering.
No matter how strong it is it can never complete itself.
Increasing randomness, going through the stage of complexity, is the world falling away.
The more we understand the more vistas of confusing patterns and non-patterns emerge.

Mythology was meant to cut through the entire process, and represent it artistically, metaphorically, with stories insinuating vague understanding but leaving room for individual interpretations.
It can also be used as a comforting way of evading what is most obvious, and clear, and not vague at all.  

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Male = Harvest/Hunts, absorbing patterns form environment, assimilating them into his own ordering.
He want to be the ideal.

Female = Forages, picking what she finds in world, making herself a means towards is development - nurturing it.
She wants to give rise to an ideal, remember it, finding it in pieces.


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Human is a concept, representing a pattern - behavior.
Human is a reproductive concept, as are all concepts representing species.
In the particular case of "human species" it is characterized by two ambiguously/fluidly divided specialized roles - codependent, reproductive roles.
These roles expressed behaviorally, mentally, physically.

All other definitions of the concept "humanity" are arbitrary, a product of memes, or psychologically based.
Their redefinition must partially or completely ignore the expression of the phenomenon human, as this is perceived sensually, or it may attempt to suppress and redirect said behaviors to validate their own definitions.

Human is pattern, phenomenon, given a theoretical framework, whereas nihilism takes a theory and attempt to give it a behavioral framework - training, in behaving, thinking, by suppressing evolved dispositions, or rejecting them as a product of its own methodology.

In theory everything and anything a human mind can conceptualize is possible.
It is intent.
In practice it fails, when its theory has no reference to precedent, not to anything experienced as phenomenon.
When it fails, the mind obsessed with the theory, as an antithesis to the real, may find excuses, or accusations. It may excuse itself, by accusing otherness - the world is at fault for its theory's failure - its is, therefore, the world that must adjust, adapt, to the theory.



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Borrowing the imagery from Heidegger, we are "thrown" into the world, not by choice.
We then awaken to our condition, having already bean to resist and reject, and selectively assimilate, according to a memory passed onto us as genetic code.
We are not a something in possession of memory, but we are past/nature awakening to our ignorance of this memory - which we must then re-call.
We are not the past, we ARE past manifesting as presence, appearance.

Techniques/Technologies are part of our awakening to ourselves. Langue is how we encountered our own genetic code, our own internal patterns/processes.
Our brain processing data in the only way it could have, given its own methods.
Binary logic, dualism is the formal code of this self-awakening.

Automatic reactions, following a prescribed tried and tested memory, is the subjective, which we awaken to.
Interaction of out congruent patterns with flux, is processed and understood, after-the-fact.
we've already reacted to objective world by the time we perceive the consequences of this reaction, as subjective mental models.
Self-Cultivation is a retraining, or adjustment of already present automated reactions.

Nurturing, (training, educating, cultivating) consists in selectively accentuating particular reactions so that they become second-nature, usurping our inherited first-nature, programmed in the immutable past/nature.
Nurturing is not reinvention, it is adjustment.

The idea(l) projected as future goal, serves as a point in space/time to aligning our presence with this immutable past/nature.
Body follows the inherited prescribed method, and mind adjust according to the particular circumstances.

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what does censorship matter to a mind that has nothing to say, outside of social platitudes, and shares norms?
The most it can do is speak honestly about its distastes and banal hatreds, using street vulgarity, and be reprimanded for being uncivil.
This is the extent of its potential controversial spirit.

Then there are those who desire to be controversial simply to gain attention, when their dull mind has nothing out of the ordinary to say.
This, last kind, is the first to accuse all expressions of controversial positions of being motivated by their own attention seeking.


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If there were no difference between being deceived or to trusting or not trusting there would be no need for judgment or any reason to value trust at all.
One can be deceived only when he realizes the truth, otherwise the consequences of his deception will produce costs/benefits he will not comprehend, seeking reasons in spirits, in gods, in others.
Allowing one's self to be deceived is surrendering, fearlessly to the consequences - giving in to the feminine and flowing.

All is conditioned....and the conditioner is life, existence - experiences.
If the experienced are within artificial environments then the conditioning is artificial - willed by another.
It is world that conditions us to appreciate symmetry as indicating superior genetics, and fertility.
It is this conditioning that makes us appreciate the cleverness of a comic playing with reality.

World tells us what we are, in relation to it.
We need not give into this, but neither can we ignore it.

With no world, objectivity, how could we decide what is superior in subjectivity?
How would life and man emerge?
How would consciousness evolve?

We know nothing in advance....we know it in hindsight.
We appreciate our already determined appreciation, and we want to know why we did so.
This is philosophy.
To know what man does automatically and appreciates after-the-fact.

It's benefit is knowing self.
To be aware of one's own future reactions, and recognize what triggers them.
We can then train, condition ourselves to react automatically, without thinking.
By knowing we habituate with the known. We can then see it coming and ignore it, or focus on it, at will.

 


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Realism is a cutting through old mystification, toward new mysteries.
Not an end...a tool.

When we connect words, as tools, to phenomenon, cutting the solipsistic loop of infancy, later becoming Nihilism, we cast sails upon the winds of (inter)activity - tools...not ends.
Not toys to waste away orr time in leisure, playing like kids.

We need not return to the same paths, by tearing apart our shoes forcing us to go back to the smoothness of the worn-our soils we passed over, a hundred times before.
We need not use our shoes as toys to pretend we are gods, or our shoes are spaceships.
Shoes are tools with a specific function.
Words have specific functions.


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Back to Basics...
Simplicity.
To awaken to world and to appreciate the processes that made it possible, and the automatic reactions that maintain it.

To start from the ground-up - Bottom<>UP.
Before there was consciousness to be subjective, there was world out of which life emerged - patterns (inter)acting - dynamism.
There was activity.

This activity produced congruences that would separate and engage world as otherness, producing the subjective/objective divide.

No absolute necessary.
No static.
No beyond.
Nothing hidden
What is hidden is what the subjective emerging consciousness has yet to perceive and to understand - has yet to be revealed.


Consciousness is outwardly focused.
It evolved to interpret and deal with an objective world - an indifferent reality.
It emerges to aid the organism deal with a threatening to its congruity, fluctuations.
Self-Consciousness emerges as ana awareness of self, within world. Self as another otherness.
Third-person perspective.
"I am that which I am not" - relationship of self with otherness.
Self yet to be fully determined - unknown.
Know Thyself in relation to other....all judgments are juxtapositions.
What is subjectivity juxtaposed against?


In its solipsistic Nihilist form...it juxtaposes itself with self.
Dissatisfaction forcing it to integrate other subjectivity so as to be convinced it is not self-referential - inter-subjectivity
Let us vote the truth into practice - let us convert nihilistic subjectivity into pragmatism....a communal problem.

Problem indicates a shared project, mission, motive.

Let is make this particular shared delusion "real".
Only Nihilism is so dependent on others for validation.

For a pagan it does not matter who does or does not agree with his relationship with reality.
They, like him, will face the consequences. The world does not require an agreement, a shared comprise, a project, to exist.
It is, as it was before there were humans to delude themselves with word-games.


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For who does symmetry matter?
To world?
no.
It matters to an organism dependent on order, or the exclusion of possibilities to establish probabilities.

What did Orwell say about the necessity of stating the obvious?
In an age where beauty is denies an objective reality, where any cow can pretend she is pretty, the repetition of what it is, is more than a manual.
It is a matter of setting things straight.

In an insane asylum perhaps the only thing a sane person, trapped within it, can do, is scream the obvious.  


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The problem is a Modern one, or a post-modern one.
It goes back to when all was inverted, staring with the fluid: frozen into absolutes, easily sold to a mind that dependent on artificial, symbolic, absolutes, to make sense of fluidity – Flux.
A mind stills struggling to make sense of its own emergent self-consciousness, confusing the inner voice, for spirits, confusing consciousness of consciousness, for God.
Conspiracy theories in the present, are rooted to this confusion – behind every event lies a motive, a hidden will.
At that point language was hijacked – appropriated by Abrahamic Nihilism.
Today, we cannot think of shame, of guilt, without referring it to Abrahamic principles – and ego has also been taken over by Freud, an offspring of the Abrahamic clan.
So intertwined that when we speak of cost/benefit, or morality, we think of it through that same prism.
Hellenism was selectively appropriated by Judaism to give birth to Christianity, and natural processes are selectively appropriated, redefined, detaching them from their natural roots, their objective functions, reconnecting them with that same dogma.
We are Christianized while we assault Christianity, the most popular variance of Abrahamism, with its own concepts.
To confront it, we must adopt its principles.
Insidious cleverness of the ploy – we are trapped within its paradigms.
To speak of love, will defer you to Christianity
To speak of antisemitism you must feed into the Semitic identifier, inappropriately confusing Semitism, the tribal identity, with Judaism, the ideology.
How else would Moderns dare to try absorbing Nietzsche into Judaism?

The spirit that makes Nihilism thrive is the same spirit that redefines itself, before a world it despises, fears, hates, with a self that is inadequate, feeble, and unable to cope.
This spirit will not go away.
It will be reborn with every human of poor genetic stock, seeking a way to validate self in a world it is unable to survive within without help.
Jesus was redefined because illiterate masses, at the time, had no way to cultivate a relationship with an abstraction they could not conceptualize privately.
They needed a ritualized space, a church, and a corporeal representation, a priest, to make the blood and flesh of Jesus come alive in their minds.
And today, how can a feeble dependent spirit contemplate solitude, a spirit requiring no external self to validate it?
How can it digest Nietzsche when it is still addicted to Christianity's mediating meditations?


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Schizophrenia is the certainty that someone is watching you, when they are simply looking your way, or that someone is speaking to you, when they are simply singing a song, or that a cloud is there just for you, when it is but a cloud.

Paranoia is thinking someone's motives are more than immediately obvious and openly stated.
Distrust of words.

Having evolved to side towards caution in times of sheltering it is superfluous, and mostly psychological.
A remnant of a times of austerity inappropriate in times of abundance.  
Like gluttony...the mind cannot adjust to these new manmade circumstances, having evolved for other environments.  
And like gluttony, some organism have metabolic rates that would put them in a disadvantage in austere environments.


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Weiniger, Otto wrote:
The seeker searches, the priest informs. The seeker searches above all himself, the priest reveals himself above all to others. The seeker searches his whole life long for himself, for his own soul; the priest’s ego is given from the outset as a presupposition of everything else. The seeker is always accompanied by a feeling of imperfection; the priest is convinced of the existence of perfection.

Burns, Steven wrote:
The masochist sounds a good deal like the self-hater, but the contrast is a different one. Its origin, however, is in a similar metaphysical distinction between the one and the many. Human experience is always of pieces lifted from an infinite whole.
Two types of character are then possible: there are people who seek reality in the whole, and for whom every individual thing is only apart; there are people who find each discrete thing fully real, a thing in itself, and only imagine the whole when it is symbolized by the completeness of a discrete thing. The former is the masochist, the latter the sadist. Immediately Weininger takes us a step sideways. The (male) masochist cannot love a woman, because she is not real for him, he seeks something other than the woman in her, and women therefore do not find him attractive. The sadist finds individual women to be very real, and they in turn find him attractive.
So far this masochist and sadist are not the familiar characters who take pleasure in their own pain, or in the pain of others. Weininger was quite familiar with de Sade and Sader-Masoch, and the uses they served for sexologists and psychologists like Havelock-Ellis and Freud.

Nevertheless, in his own theory he puts the emphasis on the character’s relation to the world: the masochist suffers because he is embarrassed in front of women, and passive toward sensations; the sadist rejoices in the confrontation with a woman, and can be absorbed in a sensation, but equally eagerly moves on to the next. Clearly, the potential for pain is evident in these examples, but the usual emphasis on finding enjoyment in it is absent. Instead, Weininger hurries on to align new associations with his original dualism. The sadist can tell stories and jokes, while the masochist cannot hold the little narratives together; for him the story spreads out into a part of the story of everything, and it loses its point. The masochist is dismayed by change, the sadist surprised by duration. In music, rhythm – ‘which attends precisely to every individual note’ – is sadistic, while harmony and melody – ‘in which the individual notes do not emerge as such(57) – are masochistic.
The same holds for geometry and arithmetic, or as we might say, the analogical is masochistic, the digital is sadistic. What is holding these very diverse concepts together is their relation to the holism and atomism with which we started. We should then see, Weininger thinks, that the mystic ‘is identical with the masochist’.” (57) [Wittgenstein reads Weininger – Sex and Solipsism]

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When a poet sits by the side of a river, full bellied, and full of energy.
He can contemplate the rushing water, with an eye for the uncanny - his pen quickly trying to capture the slice of a wave, across a stone, or the sound of its rush, letting his mind go free, river merging with the trees, water foam reflected in its wake.

But when he returned hungry, when he baits his hook, his mind turns to the depths, empathizing with cold eyes, shifting across the surface to find the perfect cast - his hand slack to feel the subtle pull, and then quick to draw the catch in.

After he's eaten, again, mind changes moods, and he searches for his pen and pad.

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From need we rise to dominate what once we were subdued by.
A noble mind seeks isolation when cooperation has provided leisure enough, and when the original need subsides, and the compromise made is no longer a benefit, but now increasingly a burden he wants to cast aside.

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Nothing as pathetic as a mental-midget inflating his proverbial intellectual chest, with words, boasting and then contradicting what he was previously so proud of.

A man acts, dominates, and then claims his place, with no fanfare.
A strong man does not need to speak of how strong he is to those who can more than see it for themselves.
A man only boasts about what he is  most uncertain, wanting others to acknowledge his desire.

A woman needs to be seen, or needs a man behind whom she can be seen, in pom and circumstance.
Her surrender requires validation, otherwise she doubts herself, and her judgment.
Unable to compete with actions, she needs words, and the arena where words battle for supremacy of wit.
But, is a boast witty, or is a witticism a indirect boast?

Remarkable when mental-midget, so keen to cloud their mental prowess with ambiguity and flowery words, evoking some mystical realm, but when it comes to proving themselves in reality, their wit is replaced with vulgar, dull, bragging.
If a woman desires such a thing, then she will find it readily available to her....in America, where simians do it regularly in athletic arenas, and in word-associating "art".
Do not Semites boast the best?



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The earth is not the end.
It is what we dig into not to hide, but to build.

A man who has his feet firmly placed on earth, his mass digging into it, has achieved his balance, can reach for the fig, on a high branch, or to the star.

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Indifference for the outcome comes from excess in past/nature, accumulated as experience as talent, as self-sufficiency.

A hunter who has killed many prey is confident in his talent, his ability to kill another. He is indifferent to the potential prey, knowing another will come along; he is generous with it, because he is not dependent no the kill but on his talent.

Indifference, in degree, born of understanding, sees in the kill something he can enjoy, or do without.
Experience may have broadened his tastes, or food has only become means to an end and not an end in itself.
Hunting skills, and his talents with them, are of secondary importance.
He kills and eats because he must, to maintain himself in a condition appropriate for his true goal.
He does not gain self-esteem from the outcome because it is not his goal, but a way of moving towards it.
Being admired, or respected, as a good hunter is of minimal importance, because his status within the group is not an end, in itself, but a necessary convenience/inconvenience.


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A cell, participating in an organism, has forfeits its independence to gain an increase in survivabilty, product of synergy.
It places survival above independence, as all based organism do automatically.
A reason why, in base animals, with no self-consciousness, the sexual drive has to overcome this primary drive for survival.
The organism is inebriated, chemically/hormonally, placed in a state of frenzy-madness, so as to overcome its innate fight/flight mechanisms.
Love/Lust, is described, as madness.

Man can appreciate the mechanism because he can think beyond the immediate, and is cognizant of his own mortality, and vulnerability in relation to cosmsos, and not only its own kind or life, in general.
But how do you make a base organism, genetically programmed to put survival above all else, not knowing why it acts as it does, to behave in a self-destructive way?
Hormones, flooding the brain, altering behavior.



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Subjectivity is to Objectivity what weakness is to strength, and power.
It is what ignorance is to gnosis.

The organism begins with an inheritance of preprogrammed "knowledge".
Nobody has to teach a lamb to begin the process of finding its footing.
Nobody has to urge it to do so.
It has no clue why it does so, does not know the survival benefit, or how it must quickly walk and run because the world is full of dangers.

Will towards...
One places gnosis as a goal, not omniscience.
Nihilists equate degree of knowing with a telos of absolute knowledge.
Only weaklings think in either/or absolutes, where they surrender to the ideal of absolute power, because they find themselves inadequate in the degree they can achieve.

We know there is a world unknown to us.
Are we certain?
No, because this word indicates absolute knowledge.
We are cognizant, intuitively knowing, that our perceptions of world are not the world.
Our experiences reinforce this hypothesis.

World is our objective.
Objectivity doe not mean absolute knowledge, or lack of emotional corruption in our perceptions of it.
Subjectivity is, like the lamb, driven to stand, not really understanding the reasons, only feeling the urge.

We know there is a world because we exist, and we had not existed previously.
To assume that the world was born when we awakened to it, is not only vain but solipsistic, and the world we subsequently experience contradicts this, as it does not bend to our expectations but only to our will when we understand it, and are not corrupted by emotions, ego etc.

The world, and not only humanity, tells us what we are, by presenting us with what we are not.

Objectivity is a movement towards it by a subjective mind, aware that it exists within an unknown world, that it is vulnerable within it, and powerless before it, unless it begins to build knowledge and, more importantly, understanding.
The organism and its subjectivity, its mind, begins,a s the lamb, from a position of weakness.

Some species evolved particular traits that developed to the point that any individual born of it, did not require support.
Heterosexuality being the only cooperation it was forced into, and this as a compromise before a fluctuating cosmos, where mixing genes (pasts) was a more efficient method than mitosis - the slow adaptation of genes to environment.
The compromise, of heterosexuality, unknown to the organism practicing it, mixed and mingled double the mutations, producing cascading advantages and disadvantages, that would have taken cellular division more time to develop using trial and error and the slow accumulation of mutations in a single organism.

Synergy, such as the human organism, made of of millions of different cells, offers na advantage based on a compromise.
Awareness of it may inhibit its harmony, just as awareness of what love/lust is may reduce its magical effect, or how being aware of what dancing is will trip you up, make you less elegant.
Ignorance allows the programming to manifest as actino, withuot the mind getting ni the way - self-consciousness.
This is called being "in the moment", or "in the zone".
It's a form of meditation, one attains AFTER one has become self-aware, because animals do not need not, being continuously in the moment, their senses continuously outwardly focused, with minimal, if any, self-awareness to divert their attentions inward.
Being "in the moment" is to be entirely given to the past/nature, to its already inherited codes of behavior, allowing for a more honest relating.
Honesty does not, automatically, mean successful, it means the actor is not evaluating cost/benefits, but is simply acting intuitively, instinctively, spontaneously.
To be aware of potential costs/benefits will decrease the elegance and efficiency of the performance of self-expression.
In animals this evaluation of cost/benefit happens instinctively, not burdening the brain with data that may detract from its efficiency in acting.
This instinctive, intuitive method lacks clarity, precision, objectivity, but it compensates by allowing a greater degree of efficiency, of synergy.
The act is free from precedent, and probability projections, and a cost/benefit analysis, and simply acts in accordance to automatic genetic codes.

Memory takes a long time to manifest as presence.
A pretty girl infected by a virus will not display the apparent sings until they've accumulated to a perceptible level - she may look healthy, fit, and be ill.
Same applies for experiences.
Genetic code is the product of experiences preceding the birth of the lamb.
Its own will add, or usurp these, but this may take a while, as the effects of its experiences will only become perceptible after they've accumulated to a level where they corrupt inherited experiences.


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Remaining blind is not affirmation.
Ignorance is not courage.

One affirms positive/negative as cost/benefit to self, and then acts despite of it, guided by a motive that surpasses the self.

Linguistics....all that is either, or...in this case if it is not so, it is Christian, when Nihilism comes in many forms, and the Noble in fewer, but still more than one, the singular.
Positive/Negative, cost/benefit.
To recognize the costs AND the benefits, is not to surrender to them.

Seeing costs/benefits in the immediate must then proceed to projections, beyond the immediate and also beyond the subjective.
Cost/Benefit in relation to cosmos, or to otherness.  

Giving of what one has in abundance, what one produces with minimal effort, is not generosity.
Generosity is giving of what one lacks, and one struggles to produce.

Animals analyze costs/benefits intuitively, unable to conceptualize - they remain in the present when they do not have a mind to project, or to judge without their individual needs.
Their subjectivity is present, and it cares not for objectivity.
An animal is unable to measure costs/benefits my mixing tangibles with intangibles, phenomena with abstractions.

The romantic idealism that convinces itself that self is not selfish, or that it gives of what it has no hope of replenishing, for no self-serving reason, is what makes the real magical.

Nature evolves with specific processes.
In its most primal state, there is no nobility, no generosity, there is only survival.  
Heterosexuality evolves having to overcome this basic life principle.
Going beyond the pain/pleasure principle, is first achieved with sexual frenzy, lust, evolving into the social bonding mechanism of love.
The organism has no clue why it is driven to do what it does, despite putting itself in risk, despite a cost potential greater than the benefit, which it connects to the release of stress, called orgasm - internal pressure, product of need, accumulated and pressuring the animal to release it.

It has no noble cause, no expectation of an offspring...it is driven by a madness, overpowering all other needs based no lack, or need/suffering.
The desire to release, to relieve itself, overwhelms it.

Humans, evolving afterward, try to justify this madness, having access to patterns, knowledge of past/nature, precedent, having the ability to project into future, beyond the immediate, having the mental ability to abstract, replacing the tangible for intangible costs and benefits.
Man distinguishes himself from animal, form manimals, not in substance, but in his ability to postpone gratification, expecting bigger benefits, the ability to think outside self-gratification, for the "greater good", or in relation to his past, his ancestors, or to an ideal, projected as a guiding principle.  

Mystifying the simple, such as life, the most intimate, is an attempt to insert concepts that will make it other than what it is.
Existence is mystifying, by itself, because it is fluctuating, it is expanding in possibilities, not like life restricting possibility, which is called ordering, and it is producing, with its interactivity, randomness, the antithesis of ordering.
The need to mystify life, using words, so as to claim a difference, such as that attempted with those who insist on a non-African human heritage, or by inventing civilizations, such as Atlantis, to claim a place within it....is an attempt  top dehumanize one's self, so as to escape error, to claim a birthright.  
It is an attempt to hide, to not be seen through the actions of what preceded.


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Nihilism was not invented by Judaism, or Christianity or Islam, or Marx, or Buddhism.
Morality was not invented by memes.
Fear, shame, lust, guilt, were not invented by religions.

All these emerge as life, as part of living within a fluctuating, as part of survival strategies, within (inter)active Flux - cosmos.
To have courage is not to not feel fear.
To be noble is not to lack the potential for baseness - it is more noble to have the capacity to be base and be able to control it.
To feel ashamed and guilty is not a product of human ideals.

Memes from Genes.
Nihilistic memes simply give form, shape, they exploit and manipulate what is already genetically present.
An individual may have a greater, or lesser, potential for it all, which only means that his achievement, if he is to control self, will be greater than for the one born with a lesser degree.
Example - a genetically born asexual will find it easier to remain celibate, than the average heterosexual.
For him it is part of his nature, for the other it necessitates constant willing - it comes into conflict with his nature.
For the first it is a pattern one can expect, for the other it is always uncertain.

For a moron, who can understanding nothing, repeating the narratives he was born in, is easy. There's no other competing narrative to make him doubt himself.
For one who does not see much, remaining blind to divergence is part of what comes naturally to him. He is not troubled.
To an ignoramus, entering the Amazon full of piranhas is not courage.
For an alpha getting laid is not a great feat, as it is for an inferior male.
So easy that he wonders why the other males have a tough time at it.

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Ideal in relation to Real

Omnipotence is idealized strength/power.
Power is idealized weakness, dependence.
Omniscience is idealized knowledge/understanding.
Objectivity is idealized subjectivity.
Beauty is idealized symmetry/proportionality.
Self is idealized mind/body harmony.
Perfect is idealized noumenon.
Complete/Whole is an idealized phenomenon.
Freedom is idealized contingency, causality.
Good/Evil, or Good/Bad idealized cost/benefit, one from the perspective of spiritual Nihilism (Abrahamic) and the other from the organic perspective (Pagan).

The idea(l) is the noetic, based on the experience (stimulation) of the apparent (phenomena) via a medium.
Experience is personal precedent, which knowledge adds to with the experiences of others.  
The phenomenon is made apparent via the mediating phenomenon of light, atmosphere, electromagnetism, which remains unseen, unless we make it the focus of our sensuality by using an alternate medium.
For example, we can make light apparent by using a form of slow patterns we call matter, and how light (inter)acts with matter, this time suing matter to perceive light.

In theory all is possible, because it does not require validation in experience, of the first or second hand kind.
Theory is possibility, remaining probable because it has not been applied.
Noumena remaining free of phenomena.
Nihilism builds it construct in this way, untroubled by any application - if it dares to apply theories fabricated free from any phenomenal application, then to preserve their theoretical purity they must lie, or cover the consequences with mystifying ambiguity.    

Noumenon evolved as a way of representing and coping with the phenomenon made apparent Sensually, using a medium.It was a tool for engaging reality...or world.

World is not perfect, nor is not complete, lacking all absolutes, other than the ones man manufactures in his mind, as noumena/abstractions, and then projects as goals and/or as desirable goals, ideals.
Mind can lie, the body cannot.
Human ideologies are routinely contradicted when they are based on only noetic artifices, with minimal reference to a phenomenal world - experiences, precedent, knowledge/understanding.
The degree to which it is detached determines its success/failure rates, and the required degree of intervening institutionalized, regulating force, adjusting cost/benefits according to its own ideals/goals.

Idea(l) is a product of a mind's relationship with the real, either directly, or through a mediating source - first or second hand.
This relationship can be affected by the mediating force, the proxy.
Body, as a manifestation of past/nature, relates to reality dependent of mediating proxies, unless the proxy is so powerful as to create a artificial reality around the mind/body, the organism. In this case the body's memories, product of direct (first hand) and indirect (second hand) experiences will be confronted by this artificial real.
This intervening proxy is the meme.
If the meme's impact on the brain is strong enough then the body's memories/judgments might be repressed, redirected, sublimated to the point where the body's judgments are silenced, or pushed out of consciousness (subconscious).
The body can imitate, after prolonged trial and error conditioning, but it cannot lie, as the mind can - it cannot pretend.
The mind's will must be powerful if it is to dominate and deal with the body's decrees, in accordance with the mind's preferred outcome of cost/benefit - idea(l).
Training/Education, habituation, exercise, increases the minds control, resulting in what is called 'second nature" also called civility, or cultivation.
In this both Pagan and Nihilistic ideals apply, the former to enhance, selectively, but not deny, and the latter to reject, ignore, forget, and overturn.

Body can imitate unconsciously, not requiring its awareness nor its consent, by the process of evolution, but it may also attempt to imitate in self-aware organisms, by adopting the appearances of that which it wishes to appear as - driven by a dedication to a memetic ideal, or as a way to conceal self, by changing appearances, and this last we call an image.



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Border, boundaries are not fixed is time/space.
It is that they can never be fixed that they must be reaffirmed, constantly.
It is BECAUSE there is no absolute that the mind manufactures them....it is BECAUSE there is no completion, no wholeness, that the organism fabricates a skin, a shell.
It is BECAUSE there is no certainty that makes the mind harvests patterns.
It is BECAUSE there is no telos, that the mind creates ideals.
It is BECAUSE of expanding possibilities, that the mind seeks for probabilities.
It is BECAUSE there is no one, no singularity, that the brain uses binary logic and dualism, to represent fluidity.

It is BECAUSE there can never be a closing-off, that the mind constantly builds walls, categories, repairing them, expanding them, strengthening them...affirming them over and over....and this constant affirmation is called consciousness.

Patterns are not static things.


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An example of what some call Dionysian self affirming....of positive/negative.


Girlies admire that style of alpha dawg.
He be calling himself great, 'cause dat be wut will to power means.


Dat be reaffirming.
He be proud and he want da wurld to know how great he be.
No humility fur dat dawg.
Shiat...look at the shorties he got.
Bling, bling, a crib, bouncing wheels, and a fast rack.
An ideal commander in the field of the real, leading the way with his appeal.
Getting panties wet, with zeal.
How can we forget, our first?
Pulling us up to ecstasies un-real, ruining us to all who would follow.  

We draw inspiration from shit-Stain who, with daring, declared himself genius, and above it all. He be the authentic philosopher, living out his greatness, honestly.
Acknowledged by all those who know Dionysian from the source.
Being happy, living the good life, keepin' it real.

Let the girlies show us how to be men, hoping that, this time, they will not be disappointed by their own creations.  
Finding excuses to explain their disinterest in the final product.
Tension slackened when the boy is born.

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Be advised, her natural vulnerability will make her reluctant to confront directly.
Her seven-year-itch will make her seek indirect ways of moving along, climbing up the hierarchy - hypergamy.
Today, she may cheat on you, making it painfully obvious, without having to say a word, but in the past, when this could mean getting physically assaulted, or even killed, she would make herself unbearable, in annoying little ways - each sending signals of disinterest, wanting you to do the "dirty deed", so she can remain innocent and pure.
When they've drained you of all they have judged as "valuable" they need to milk a new source of its different vitality.

It is part of her nature.
Do not be surprised by it.
If anything, be surprised by the exception to the rule, and try to explain it.

You shouldn't be surprised, or hurt, by it.
It's part of how nature keeps the species healthy.  
Be aware, and appreciate how time is of the essence, in such matters.

From tree trunk to tree trunk, the woodpecker pecks the wood, trying to get to the worm within.  


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What is inherited, is still deserved.

What follows is another matter.

Those who write with clarity are never misunderstood.
Those who fear being understood, write in ways that feeds into convenient misunderstanding.

How many have misunderstood Satyr?
Only the foundations of my writing, not the product.


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They expect to piss on Satyr as part of their personal development, comparing him to filth, associating him with garba..........aaaaah, but who am I trying to fool?
I only jest.
Talking of my fake identity in the third-person, is a sign of my instability.
So crazy that I am no longer troubled by such insubordination.
It is part of what is to be expected.

And, if I act, jittery it is to inject some adrenaline into my bloodstream, and make it all less of a bore.

Using the public domain to air-out your "clean" underwear, hanging them next to the neighbour's dirty ones, can be interpreted in many ways.
Particularly when both pairs hang on the same clothesline, and came out of the same house.    

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