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Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:44 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:22 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:04 pm | |
| *Judaism is not a racial category, it is an ideology, a dogma, a belief system attempting to become a racial category via such ideological practices s memetic isolation, ghettoization, inbreeding, triggering animosity in other peoples towards them, exploitation, linguistic manipulation... *Some say that the roots of Judaism is not even among Semitic tribes - but even fi it is among the Semites that Judaism emerges - as a sampled synthesis of all the dogmas they came in contact with - still the synonymity of Judaism with Semitism is erroneous because there are far more non-Jewish Semites in the world. *Domination of the US is now becoming clear - so clear that they must silence anyone who notices. Through Hollywood - brainwashing Americans for decades - and the Media - controlling what information Americans receive - they've associated morality, the concept of god, with their version - through the US they have attempted to do so across the world - Globalization. *The concept of innocence is in preparation of a historical pattern. It seduces the world's downtrodden, those that find nature unjust....those feeling wronged by what has been determined. Similar to " Proletarians/Workers of the world unity!" it sends out the battle cry " Victims of the world unite!" Those that feel wronged by nature do not identify with their past, their tribe, their traditions...they identify with their animosity, their vengeance towards reality, their resentment, their spite - they find allies across the world. A natural feeling to feel vulnerable towards the unknown - towards time. This is what unifies and can be exploited and manipulated. *Victimhood becomes a collective - it evolves into a religion....as it presently is becoming a new religion to replace the older variants: Judaism,. Islam, Christianity...so powerful is the pull that Judaism had to invent rules of exclusivity. Victimhood then morphs into secular forms: communism/socialism, postmodernism, abandoning the concept of 'god' - as defined by Abrahamism - which is divisive and exclusionary. Capitalism is a varient that offers salvation to the victims in the form of an abstraction. An idea, a symbol, sanctioned by the state, that can be used to "correct" nature's injustices. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Jan 19, 2023 5:24 pm | |
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| | | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Jan 22, 2023 6:37 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Jan 24, 2023 8:42 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:28 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:34 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:08 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:12 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:15 am | |
| You cannot notice certain patterns.....some are cohencidences. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jan 25, 2023 7:43 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:46 pm | |
| The epiphany of a mental disorder. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:36 am | |
| Their "prophesies" are really a blueprint describing the requirements before they attain global hegemony. Every failure is explained away as their god's disapproval of their performance....and so they start again. After multiple failures over the ages, their curent attempt is via the US. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 27, 2023 7:47 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 27, 2023 1:46 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:25 pm | |
| Is Abrahamism evolving, adapting, so as to survive another century? Its nihilistic semiotics remains obscure enough to remain applicable to any cultural shift it is, itself a product of and a facilitator. Abrahamic tropes lead to this mind/body dissonance, intentionally or not...but postmoderns tend to deny culpability in any way possible, ans o history repeats because the culprits never learn, and they never learn because they never accept any responsibility - claiming innocence. Those that do nor, cannot, accept any responsibility will repeat eh same behaviours, resulting in the same outcomes.....history repeats; sek out the culprits in those claiming innocence. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Jan 28, 2023 8:01 pm | |
| - Sloterdijk, Pete wrote:
- As is well known, the first part under the heading 'Moses, an Egyptian' – shows Freud developing the 'monstrous notion' that the 'man Moses, the liberator of his people, who gave them their religion and their laws'! was in reality an Egyptian by culture and nationality. In the second section, with the hovering title 'If Moses Was an Egyptian Freud develops the theory, carefully considered and bold at the same time, that the distinguished Egyptian Moses must then have been a follower of the solar-monotheistic Aten religion, introduced by Akhenaten in the fourteenth century BC, who, after the reactions of the priests of Amon, saw no possibility of propagating the unpopular new faith in his homeland and among his own people. Subsequently he joined the captive Jewish people to lead them out of Egypt – with the intention of resuming the monotheistic experiment in a new location with other people. Thus he taught the Jews the Egyptian custom of circumcision, the conventions of religious arrogance and also the strictness towards oneself that a strictly monolatrous religion must demand of its followers – or rather its test subjects. The ability to be strict towards oneself is the source of the mental transformations summarized by Freud in the formula 'progress in spiritualization.’
In the context of a reverie there is a certain justification for bringing up this 'monstrous' revision of Jewish history by the Jew Freud, as it constitutes a manner of prelude to what will later be referred to with Derrida's key term differance. In Freud's interpretation, this 'shift' or distortion first of all concerns the real recasting of roles in the monotheistic game – but equally the redaction of accounts of this, which are always subject to the tendentious requirement of making what happened as unidentifiable as possible. Freud writes:
- Freud wrote:
- The distortion of a text is similar to that of a murder. The difficulty lies not in carrying out the deed, but rather in removing its traces.
One is inclined to give the word 'distortion' the double meaning to which it is entitled, though it makes no use of it today. It should not only mean to change something in its appearance, but also: to take it to a different place, to shift it elsewhere. *** Their origins had to be sought in the fact that Moses wanted 'to lead the Jews out of the country', as Freud says, and through circumcision impose a custom 'that virtually made Egyptians of them' With his analysis of hauntings, Derrida formalizes the idea, elaborated by Freud, that one cannot be a Jew without, in a certain sense, embodying Egypt – or a ghost thereof.
*** Because distortion goes far beyond active concealment, it protects the Egyptian incognito in a way that is much more secure than the directorate of a conspiracy could ever achieve. Naturally the figure of Moses had to be the first to be affected by the distortion. Once it had done its work, the leader of Judaism was himself no longer able to say with certainty whence he truly came. In such a situation, projects become more important than origins. Now any consideration for descent takes a back seat to the prospect of the Promised Land. If one pursues Freud's reflections on the cryptic fabrication of Jewish identity to their logical conclusion, the irreversible effect of the exodus becomes palpable: the departure from Egypt, according to Freud, spawned the Mosaic Jews as a hetero-Egyptian people that could not under any circumstances have returned to a previous sense of the own, even if it had desired to. The trace of the other had imprinted itself indelibly within the innermost part of the own, no matter how it might be disguised and covered up by new programmes. This imprint was so deep that even the symbol for the most intimate aspect of the own had been taken from the strangers: if circumcision truly indicated chosenness, as Freud tirelessly claimed, this symbol was borrowed from those from whom the Jews, as an emigrant people, would in future seek to set themselves apart at all costs.
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| | | Æon Wyrm
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:14 am | |
| "Manifest Destiny"
I now fully realize how Christianity, and thereby Judaism and Islam, were all deeply influenced by Plato's Utopianism and Aristotle's Metaphysics. Christianity in particular fleshed out this notion of Linear Time as a progression toward God's Predetermined "Future". In the past Millenniums, the masses or even the educated did not have such a clear delineation of time, especially not as an objective "progression of evolution", as-if "the future" always implies something better. This explains why Abrahamism is so fervently prophetic. Each branch believes it is heading toward Salvation, and Judaism in the form of Armageddon. This is defined further in Christianity as Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, via 'Redemption' (tithing to the Catholic Church).
It makes complete sense when you consider that each Abrahamic servant is enslaved to God, God's property, God owns the servant. Your spiritual status is based on suffering (Christ), and so any and all future states must be "better than" this suffering. This is how Christianity 'progresses' into the future, absolved by Christ's Sacrifice (Salvation and Redemption), toward "Perfection". "Man in the image of God" is presented as the Christ-figure.
This is the basis of Western morality, of the serf & peasant classes, yet it is a system of control. The peasant European masses believe in "Determination", not Free-Will. Because they're not free. They don't know what it means, at least, not "without God". Because God is the basis of their 'Determinations', the premise of their past, present, and future.
Even at the advent of Post-colonialism and Post-modernism, the Secularization of Protestantism did not remove the Abrahamic 'spirit' and ethos, their morality, from the peasant masses. The end result:
They still believe the same superstitions they always had. At Nietzsche's "Death of God", the Protestant gave up nothing of his Faith, and only looks for a new God. Just as the Democrat Anglo-Puritans were the original slave-owners of African-American negroes. They proclaimed them free....and then bade them vote whichever direction the Democrat party wavers. In function, they are still owned by the Democrat. No changes were made, except on the surface level.
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:24 am | |
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| | | Kvasir Augur
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 30, 2023 6:47 pm | |
| - Peacegirl wrote:
- It's not that we have no free will that sets in motion a brave new world of entirely moral men and women. It is the knowledge that lies behind the door of determinism that allows a new world to be possible. If we had free will, man could not accomplish this. BTW, the word morality won't be needed anymore because there will be no hurt, and if there is no hurt there is no need for the word.
Sounds an awful lot like the other resident crazy, who travels to "Hell realms" and is a 'God' sent to cure the world of pain and suffering so everyone gets what they want forever. Whatever happened to that ILP god anyway? Haven't seen him around lately. He must be visiting the Andromeda galaxy. All they are, are ill and addled minds. Their modern obsessions with science and proof, are only used to conceal and promote their true heart's desire for a divine Abrahamic utopian cleansing of nature's evils, nature's injustices against the innocence of man. Hidden knwoledge, the hidden secret that must lie in man's submission before the divinity of determinism, the surrender of his will to an either/or choice dilemma. |
| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jan 30, 2023 9:37 pm | |
| - Kvasir wrote:
- Peacegirl wrote:
- It's not that we have no free will that sets in motion a brave new world of entirely moral men and women. It is the knowledge that lies behind the door of determinism that allows a new world to be possible. If we had free will, man could not accomplish this. BTW, the word morality won't be needed anymore because there will be no hurt, and if there is no hurt there is no need for the word.
Sounds an awful lot like the other resident crazy, who travels to "Hell realms" and is a 'God' sent to cure the world of pain and suffering so everyone gets what they want forever. Whatever happened to that ILP god anyway? Haven't seen him around lately. He must be visiting the Andromeda galaxy. Last I heard, he is deceased. - Kvasir wrote:
- All they are, are ill and addled minds.
Two clues...they are on ILP...and their subjective opinions are founded on word-games. - Kvasir wrote:
- Their modern obsessions with science and proof, are only used to conceal and promote their true heart's desire for a divine Abrahamic utopian cleansing of nature's evils, nature's injustices against the innocence of man. Hidden knowledge, the hidden secret that must lie in man's submission before the divinity of determinism, the surrender of his will to an either/or choice dilemma.
All of them recovering Abrahamics. They've substituted the jargon, but the concepts are the same, and the anxieties/fears, i.e., motives, are the same. The defensive, linguistically based, method of nihilism never goes away...it simply adapts and it adjusts in the only way it can, without engaging reality....it adjusts itself linguistically. The same concepts concerning eternal life, absolute being, parental divinity, negations of al physicality, everything tangible, experienced, natural...and its replacement with the ideological, the intangible, the abstract.... I mean, this alone means that the options are unrestricted by anything real, anything other than by human ingenuity - fantasy; there is no real world - for them - to limit how they can adjust the lingo and preserve the same exact concepts. Obscurity, mysticism, superstition are all, for them, essential.....and projection is how they try to silence those who expose them. They became so cocky that they've attempted to do the same with something as primal as sex/gender...and this exposed the madness of the nihilistic "emotional need"...its esoteric "logic". _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Feb 01, 2023 7:04 pm | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:56 am | |
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| | | Satyr Daemon
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Feb 06, 2023 6:18 am | |
| Satanic simply means anti-Christian....in Judaism their one-god is both good and evil. A shift from one variant to the more ancient - its mother.
In Paganism it has an entirely other meaning....Daemon - demon - the human spirit that challenges the gods - genius, which Schopenhauer connects to objectivity - anti-subjectivity. The approach towards the divine - cosmos - requiring the adoption of its indifference. To see as a god would see - human daemon. Human is the demonic in Abrahamism; in paganism it is human genius, creativity, insight, objectivity: to see will-less, i.e., with no personal needs, no desires, no emotions, no motives. The correct understanding of empathy is to see another as he/she is - with no sympathy and no antipathy.
To begin this process one starts with Know Thyelf...it is the part you must temporarily silence, overcome, transcend, not permanently negate. You cannot do so if you do not know yourself...with no over- under-estimations. _________________ γνῶθι σεαυτόν μηδέν άγαν
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| | | Æon Wyrm
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Feb 07, 2023 4:06 am | |
| In the context of Determinism and (lack of) Free-Will, the dots can be connected to the Western system and notion of Justice subjectively based on Innocence. Why Innocence? Because this is the 'shield' of the Abrahamic Western Civilization, that proposes to protect 'individual' citizens from Injustice and the Tyranny of corrupt men. Yet, in practice, what are the implications? You are charged of crimes by others, specifically the US government, and then held to be ruled 'guilty' or 'innocent' of such charges.
Your governing status in life is presumed on this sense of Innocence, as-if your communal peers are fit to judge upon the premise of Innocence. Can they?
It's observed from ILP, Determinism, Free-Will, that they cannot. Because the common (Western) notion of Innocence is itself corrupt and perverse. The Americanized / Globalized / Marxist notion of Justice, therefore Innocence, presumes something that may not necessarily be. Where is the Citizen's "innocence" and what is such "innocence" based upon? It's as-if the Citizen is Not Responsible for him/herself, in relation to greater society, and especially within the context of the body-politic. But how is this 'Determination' or 'Judgment' made? How do common men and women judge one another based on this, notion of Responsibility? Simply observe them on ILP: Appeals to Authority. It's never "my fault!", always somebody else's, or God's....and the average man and woman gets away with this (philosophically).
I believe the reason for this is founded on the degradation of individual responsibility presumed by the Western explorer / settler / colonist from the 1600s to today in the 2000s. Four centuries have passed, and 'Nature' is no longer holding the Western / Americanized individual responsible for him/herself as the "Wild West" could and did. There are no Native American Injuns stalking the edge of your property with hatchets at 4am. There are no more horse-drawn carriages across the Western plains. There are no more teenagers working long hours in Chicago coal and steel factories. All the hardships and challenges which confronted the early American colonist have evaporated into an era of Posterity—which obviously have softened the masses generation, after generation, after generation, especially since 1945.
Now we truly see the 'fruit' that these trees have wrought, after waves of immigrations, the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of these immigrant waves, show America, and the rest of the world, what they are all about.
It has little to nothing to do with 'Innocence', or "personal responsibility", or accountability. It is has to do with much older, much more systemic, societal / socialist methods of governance and population control, over wealth, over public opinion, and over the 'mind', focus, and sight of the body-politic. These greater forces are driven by the pursuit of political power (Zionism / International / Globalist). Power for the sake of Power. So are they "Innocent", and is this new form of governance, the new sense of public Justice truly "Innocent", or even premised upon the notion anymore?
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| Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Feb 07, 2023 8:04 pm | |
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