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PostSubject: Re: Friedrich Nietzsche  Friedrich Nietzsche EmptySun Mar 29, 2015 7:35 pm

It sounds like defeatism.
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PostSubject: Re: Friedrich Nietzsche  Friedrich Nietzsche EmptyMon Sep 20, 2021 5:51 pm


Concerning the five differences between Nietzsche and the Nazis...
(Section 33 - 2:24:30)
My comments in bold.

1-Germans believed Aryans were superior, whereas Nietzsche believed the superior type could emerge in any race.
The superior type may emerge in every race but not with equal frequency. The "superior type" is more likely to emerge among certain races and less in others.

2-Nazis believed contemporary German culture was highest and the best hope for the world, whereas Nietzsche thought contemporary German culture to be degenerate and infecting the rest of the world.
Here German nationalism and Christianity are factors. Hitler failed to have a broader understanding of racial identity, desiring Germans to be the dominant standard for Europe and the world, and Christianity was what made them a degenerate standard. Judaism and Islam are indirectly identified as part of the Abrahamic infection. Fanatic nationalism was part of why Hitler failed, as did Napoleon, to unify Europe.
He could not trace European identity to a pre-Abrahamic common source.
Contemporary Germany was, and still is, infected and infecting the world, and this infection is nihilism - anti-nature, anti-world - which makes spiritual, i.e., Abrahamism, and secular, i.e., Marxism, postmodernism, nihilistic variants the underlying infection.
 

3-The Nazis are enthusiastically antisemitic whereas Nietzsche considers antisemitism a "moral sickness".
Here the Semite is confused for the Jew, when not all Semites are Jews and not all Jews are Semites. Genetics(ethnicity) is confused for memetics (ideology, nationality). His hatred for Christianity was due to the fact that it was an adaptation of Judaism for European man - Judaism corrupting Hellenism.
With Judaism a symbiosis had been created over many centuries of conflicts and suffering - a nihilistic covenant - the meme contributing to the adopted survival and reproductive strategy of some Semitic tribes, which failed to be integrated into Hellenism due to the contradicting world-views, i.e., survival and reproductive strategies; one had adopted a feminine and the other a masculine form of competition. In European man this produced emasculation - anti-Hellenism - which was embraced by Judaism as part of their burden, i.e., sacrifice.


4-The Nazis hate all things Jewish whereas Nietzsche praises the Jews for their toughness, resilience, and survival ability.
We can admire the resilience of bacteria without wanting to become them, or tolerate being infected by them. An enemy cannot be hated for being who and what he is. We do not hate the rat for infesting our home; we do not hate the hyena for being a scavenging opportunist. We study and develop a strategy to deal with them.

5-Nazis considered Christianity to be radically different and superior to Judaism whereas Nietzsche considered Christianity and Judaism to be essentially the same, with Christianity being worse because ti was a dangerous variation of Judaism - a corrupted version of Judaism.
Nazis could not let go of their Christian degeneracy, identifying the source in those who simply took advantage of it, rather than finding it in themselves. They were infected and could not shake off this spiritual disease, so they accused the carrier.

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PostSubject: Re: Friedrich Nietzsche  Friedrich Nietzsche EmptySun Nov 07, 2021 9:27 am



Nietzsche has been adopted by the adolescent masculine psychology as a validation of their rejection of everything, or anything, that challenges or threatens them.
A poster-child, an icon, of cynicism, or nihilism - eternal negation of existence as a form of validation of ideology, of subjective perspectivism, i.e., American individualism.

Since no-saying, rejection, is the foundation of life and of identity - I am that which I am not - seeking truth through the gradual elimination of what is untrue, nihilism feels validated by Nietzsche's critiques, primarily of man and of human society.
A Marxist would find there a rejection of Capitalism and its natural selection converted to socioeconomics; a postmodernist may find aphorisms supporting the belief that man can will his own identity, can create himself, as if from nothing, as he wills, that ha may create himself despite what he is told he is or ought to become.

Young males born into modernity, slowly evolving into postmodernity, would find in Nietzsche a romantic idealist.
In a world of absent masculine ideals, and Abrahamic nihilistic making everything meaningless language games, would find in him a resting place for his existential fatigue.




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PostSubject: Re: Friedrich Nietzsche  Friedrich Nietzsche EmptySun Nov 07, 2021 9:45 pm

The major catastrophic effects of Nietzsche on politics is no longer deniable. Not only is he connected with Nazi-Germany and the rise of Hitler -- now his influence is resonating throughout the Liberal-Leftist-Commucrat-Marxist movement in Modern-Postmodern America. The Liberal-Left Marxists pick & choose, and understand a major point of Nietzsche: Will-To-Power is a fundamental requirement of ideology and idealism. It is not enough to muse, imagine, and fantasize about ideas.

You are obligated to act upon what you believe. (even or especially when it's false)


This resulted in calamity in Europe. This is resulting in calamity in America now. The Liberal-Left find in Nietzsche a justification for drive to total-power and societal control. Thus the Marxists, Communists, and "Liberals" believe themselves justified in their political takeover. All politics of the recent decade can be understood immediately through this justification: BLM, Antifa, mass rioting, civil unrest, defund the police, mass fear, Pandemic, mandated vaccines, mandated injections, confiscation of children, all previous 'civil' rules and norms are negated, and off the table of options.

The West heads into prospect of another Civil War, and the Liberal-Left-Marxists keep pushing and pushing until society breaks. All that is required, at this point, is further exponential monetary Inflation (which is likely), and that will be it.

The Conservative-Right-Populists are caught flat-footed. Marxists have already infiltrated and invade the public schools. The former "America" and "American" does not have enough time to react. The violent political gains of the Left will proliferate until social destruction.


To not see 'Nietzsche' in all this, especially his popularity in almost every American College and University since 1990... is to admit oblivion and ignorance as to the political consequences of his philosophy, misguided and misunderstood as they maybe.
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*They complain about the meaningless they've created, so as to excuse themselves for failing to discover meaning, falling victim to the most absurd charlatans fabricating meanings from their meaninglessness.
Words reconnecting to reality begins with the concept of "meaning"; the meaning of meaning.

*Charlatans abound when despair reigns, selling their vacuous redefinitions offering meaning to those who have lost it.
Their "generosity" conceals a secret worship of nothingness, finding relief in hedonism as a settling for the certainties of primal pleasures, marketed as a transcending of the very thing it is settling for.
Their seduction of despair cultivates degeneracy, as the only certainty left to be proud of, validating shame as the only form of pride left to them.

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PostSubject: Re: Friedrich Nietzsche  Friedrich Nietzsche EmptyFri Feb 24, 2023 11:48 am

Sloterdijk, Pete wrote:
With Diogenes, under the slogan Remint the Coins, there begins what will be called by the neokynic Nietzsche ‘the revaluing of all values,’ the cultural revolution of the ‘naked truth.’ Nietzsche, of course, ruins the point. His revaluation turns the kynical rejection of power into a will to power; with this he changes sides and provides the powerful with a philosophy of disinhibition.
[Critique of Cynical Reason]

Sloterdijk, Pete wrote:
An assessment of Nietzsche will always depend strongly on how one conceives of the ‘will to power.’ Encouragement to imperial cynicism? Cathartic confession? Aesthetic motto? Self-correction of an inhibited person? Vitalistic slogan? Metaphysics of narcissism? Propaganda of disinhibition?
[Critique of Cynical Reason]

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*One is how multiplicity is conceptualized by minds that must reduce all to what they can use.

*Strife is justice. 'War is the father of all". No linguistic debates, no ambiguities, all is settled physically, through actions, not words.

*Existence is....and that's all that matters. It requires no justification, no objective, no purpose.

*All is fire = all is energy; all is dynamic interactivity = attraction/repulsion.

*There is no inherit value to anything. Value is founded on a subjective objective. A triangulation founded on need/desire.

*Phenomenon is an interpretation of what is....energy = pattered or non-pattered - ordered or chaotic.
Man evolved methods of interpreting patterns, becoming innate over time, because they prove to be advantageous. A priori.

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Through the mediation of his caricature Zarathustra, Nietzsche did what his alter ego refused to do, arguing that the people were not ready for his devastating message. The man proved to be less capable of self-control than the noble caricature representing his ideals. As a result, he introduced into the unprepared masses a hypothesis they were unable to cope with, pushing western man down into the dark depths of nihilism from where they have yet to surface.
Even a comforting lie is better than a discomforting truth for those not born with a strong constitution. But Nietzsche, the romantic shaman, chose to leave his mountainous cave, descend down to the villages and announce the bitter truth of god’s death, knowing what this would cause.
So shy, he was that he intentionally used a mediating artistic transmitter to announce his unpleasant news, fleeing back to his solitude when he elicited reactions he had predicted.
Shock therapy, by the diagnostician, or impatience intensified by a lifetime of physical ailments? Did he sense his time window shrinking, forcing him to act through his alter ego’s refusal?
There’s a third option to his judgement “what does not kill me makes me stronger,” and it is a crippled lifetime.

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Jewish cryptomnesia.
Self-deceit, recollecting influences and believing they are spontaneous.

The self-deceiving liar, convinced that his lies are truths, increases his effectiveness by buying into his own lies.
A self-deceiving plagiarist, unconsciously altering his copies of another's work, would also benefit from believing that he is the originator.

The slight modification supports his convictions.
Appropriating a philosophical position, altering the words but maintaining the underlying meanings, would support his convictions that he is the creator.

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