1 - Women did not invent marriage but they took to it very quickly because of the emotional distances modern social systems of heterogeneous populations create.
2 - Reproduction is not based on imitation. The reproduction desire is an ingrained need which is directly linked to mortality or, speaking metaphysically, it is directly linked to the absence of an absolute.
3 - The idea that beta males can be all made into "alphas" is totally absurd. Even if we assume that men can be trained to be more confident and self-sufficient this will only raise the bar and change the delineation between superior and inferior male. Females will continue to seek out the superior.
You know, a number a years ago I stumbled upon this PUA game shit, when it was not as vogue around these parts.. the weekend thereafter I was making out with a "lesbian" couple.
I felt like a used car salesman, and went back to the dusty but trusty old tomes.
These days, I can't help but snicker when i see purported men that have obviously spent the best part of their day in front of a mirror.
Satyr Daemon
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This is more about need. The more need governs you the more time and effort you will offer in alleviating it.
You are bound to eventually hit pay-dirt.
Now if you factor in how sex is the very source of female self-worth and how slutishness is IN you get a better understanding about all this PUA stuff.
Like, why, if this guy is so confident, is he wearing a hat? Is it possible to gauge a females receptivity just by the clothes she is wearing?
I believe things are darker and more sinister than these guys have made them out to be. The selling of hope has become a growing market.
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Satyr Daemon
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What he calls confidence is based on success. You cannot retain confidence in your balance if you keep falling off a rope. He tries to circumvent the dependence of confidence with success by erasing the interest in the outcome...which is indifference in my lingo.
Indifference basically is an absence of interests which is contradicted by the attempt. The entire thing is based on smoke and mirrors...a balancing act between showing too much or too little need/desire/interest.
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Lyssa Har Har Harr
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A “Pick-Up Artist” (PUA) is someone who is good at seducing girls. “Game” is the whole spectrum of techniques these PUA guys are employing. Over the last couple of years, the PUA community has grown enormously and has become increasingly organized. It has become a real industry, with e-books, CD’s, seminars of $1,500 per person and many internet forums.
Damage to Our Society
This PUA industry has little or nothing to do with the traditional mating process between boys and girls, men and women. Spontaneity and sincere feelings of being in love have been replaced by a business-like “numbers-game” of harassing dozens of women, in which smiles, remarks, touches, etc. are nothing more than techniques in “closing the game,” – in other words, getting to sleep with the girl. The so-called ‘Masters of Pick Up’ gurus, mostly Jews, are only interested in selling their products and passing on their malicious ideology to insecure boys and young men. It is a scam. They play on the weaknesses of their customers, on their fears they will never to be able to score a girl. The Jews are offering them all sorts of alleged secret methods, for a lot of money, that have little chance of actually working anyway. They don’t want to help you, they only want to sell to you. They aren’t that good with the ladies themselves, but their marketing skills make up for that. Young men in the “PUA community” are encouraged to begin as many superficial relationships and sex-dates as possible with all kinds of girls, of all races. The body count is more important than the quality of the relations or of the women. Women are only objects of lust and most other men are only ‘AFCs’ (Average Frustrated Chumps). The industry imposes a worldview, through which the Jews do immeasurable damage to the emotional development of many young men.
The Alpha-Man
The pickup gurus tell us that boys should act like assholes towards girls – they should act like arrogant, egocentric pricks. Acting like that is, as they say it, “alpha” and gets you the girls. Well, arrogance isn’t a mark of good character and sleeping with or making out with lots of STD-sluts from the dance club doesn’t make one more “alpha.” Real men see their wife or girlfriend as a valuable person, and will do all they can to be someone to be a reliable partner and father. Instead of devoting their lives to “Game,” these young men should invest their energy in things that really matter. In work, in good books, in culture, in a good education, in a healthy relationship and in starting a family. This will be of much better use to their nation, their people and to themselves.
A List of Jews
These are the five most influential people in the PUA industry – they are all Jews.
Ross Jeffries, once “the father of the PUA-movement,” now a filthy old man. He mainly speaks about Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP), an over-hyped method that he claims will help you seduce women in no-time, simply by your choice of words.
David deAngelo is NOT a romantic Italian who speaks from his own experience with Mediterranean beauties. No, it is the nomme de plum of Eben Pagan, a Jew with a marketing background. He is the author of the e-book Double Your Dating, a thin booklet that promises much and delivers little. He also offers lots of seminars, records them and sells the recordings on DVD and CD.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Erik Horvat-Markovic
Mystery, pseudonym of Erik Horvat-Markovic. A strange person who always wears weird clothes to “peacock” (stand out for the women). He authored The Mystery Method, another commercial booklet full of empty promises.
Robert Greene, author of The Art of Seduction, is also well-known for his 48 Laws of Power book, where he instructs people as to how to manipulate others to gain influence. The PUA industry can be compared to multilevel marketing and other get-rich-quick-schemes. Everyone knows those annoying ads saying “Single mum earns $500 a day from home, click here.” They play on people’s greed and fear. A lot is promised, but the product you get is pretty worthless.
Why the Jews Do This
Jews do their utmost best to poison absolutely every aspect of the society. First they poison the women with feminism, then they offer their PUA merchandise to the men frustrated by arrogant feminists. They Jews have a lot to gain. Firstly they earn a lot from the PUA industry. If you didn’t get it by now, it’s a terribly commercial industry, in which they try to offer you more crap every two seconds. Jewish lawyers earn from divorces and Jewish banks from the increased materialism. Singles who are constantly looking for more “status” to convince the females they are “alpha,” spend more, and thus borrow more. Apart from that, the dangerous PUA worldview causes a decrease in cohesion in society and more poisonous individualism. “Diversity is our strength” is what the Jews say, because only when everyone only cares about himself the Jews will remain as the only cohesive force. The PUA industry is also breaking down the traditional family. People marry later, use money for clubbing or buying “alpha” items, fornicate more, divorce more, have less children and more children grow up in broken households. This all is in the interest of the Jew, who flourishes in a individualistic, materialistic society, wherein everything, no matter how wrong or depraved, is accepted.
They don’t want to help you, they only want to sell to you. They aren’t that good with the ladies themselves, but their marketing skills make up for that.
Hm, they seem to be quite good at seducing the boys with their marketing skills, maybe they are also quite good at seducing the girls then.
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Well, arrogance isn’t a mark of good character and sleeping with or making out with lots of STD-sluts from the dance club doesn’t make one more “alpha.” Real men see their wife or girlfriend as a valuable person, and will do all they can to be someone to be a reliable partner and father.
Women usually desire men who they can look up to, at least in some form. And if a woman has the state given power and society's blessing to fuck you over when you are that reliable partner/father then they will not have much respect -> not much desire.
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Instead of devoting their lives to “Game,” these young men should invest their energy in things that really matter. In work, in good books, in culture, in a good education, in a healthy relationship and in starting a family. This will be of much better use to their nation, their people and to themselves.
I think, they should try, to the best of their ability to be self-sufficient, making something out of themselves while at the same time trying to not support society with too much money or taxes. To be very discriminative about who and what to support.
There is no nation, we live in states and super states. Thus there is no 'my people' in the nation sense.
Lyssa wrote: "What's a wife to you? And what's a gf. for?"
Marriage is for Christians and societal thralls. Only an idiot of a man would get married in these times. Girlfriends are fuck toys. I don't buy into this romantic-idealistic bullshit of marriage, respecting your wife for her intrinsic being, etc. Females are, ultimately, a means to an end, that is to say, the perpetuation of my genetic bloodline. They are cum receptacles not divine goddesses.
The PUA stuff is good for those boys and men that don't understand female psychology; it is a way for them to compensate and adapt. I've used Erik's mystery method and it, actually, worked quite well. Females are more attracted to indifferent, aloof men. I've even heard this come straight out of the mouths of females before. I remember the other day a female said, " He wasn't paying attention to me, and that made me want him even more". Indifference is a sign of power and pre-selection.
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perpetualburn
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Lyssa wrote: "What's a wife to you? And what's a gf. for?"
Marriage is for Christians and societal thralls. Only an idiot of a man would get married in these times. Girlfriends are fuck toys. I don't but into this romantic-idealistic bullshit of marriage, respecting your wife for her intrinsic being, etc. Females are, ultimately, a means to an end, that is to say, the perpetuation of my genetic bloodline. They are cum receptacles not divine goddesses.
Something Lyssa wrote in another thread so accurately for you to think about:
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Masculine "order" is not about being smart or clever or putting on a front of bravado - all of which Odysseus does, but as he shows, it is about possessing a fluid spontaneity, that is made possible by having a reserve, a shyness that is not an *air of Indifference and secrecy and intrigue to which we think females are attracted to, but engaging with a self-trust. A courage that is openly resolute, unyielding.
Masculinity, or 'Coolness' that smells of power is possessing this Reserve, which is not the same as being Indifferent or non-caring or insensitive to another, but indifferent to the outcome in the sense, beyond gain or loss, folly and pride, deceit or deception, one still possesses oneself. The Real Reserve. Spontaneity is clinging or yielding to nothing, because one is reserved at one's root. It is to be in a state of being un-prompted. Spontaneity is possessing the courage to go Slowly. A man with his inner feminine awake, was thus said to possess Metis, or spontaneous intelligence as Odysseus was characterized.
A good quote from that thread:
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The goddess guardian of the inexhaustible well—whether as Fergus, or as Actaeon, or as the Prince of the Lonesome Isle discovered her—requires that the hero should be endowed with what the troubadours and minnesingers termed the "gentle heart." Not by the animal desire of an Actaeon, not by the fastidious revulsion of such as Fergus, can she be comprehended and rightly served, but only by gentleness: aware ("gentle sympathy") it was named in the romantic courtly poetry of tenth- to twelfth-century Japan.
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Within the gentle heart Love shelters himself, As birds within the green shard of the grove. Before the gentle heart, in nature’s scheme, Love was not, nor the gentle heart ere Love. For with the sun, at once, So sprang the light immediately; nor was It’s birth before the sun’s. And Love hath his effect in gentleness Of very self; even as Within the middle fire the heat’s excess.
Comprehension of the feminine allows one to keep the internal fire burning hot. Comprehension through gentleness. Gentleness is not weakness but a crowning characteristic of one who has harnessed feminine energy. Why do some of the greatest men have a gentle nature? A pure animal desire is irresponsible.
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Lyssa is a very backward female out of touch with her primal femininity.
Real women don't like soft and gentle men; they desire the opposite. Woman is soft - man is hard. Yin-Yang. Those quotes of Lyssa you pasted are despicable.
Note: females often say things that contradict how they act ( meme vs gene ). A female may say she wants a soft, gentle, shy man, but her nature begs to differ. This is why females often end up with those " douche-bag" boyfriends while the soft and gentle beta-males sit on the sidelines waiting for their Cinderella women to wise up.
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perpetualburn
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Lyssa is a very backward female out of touch with her primal femininity.
Real women don't like soft and gentle men; they desire the opposite. Woman is soft - man is hard. Yin-Yang.
Note; females often say things that contradict how they act ( meme vs gene ). A female may say she wants a soft, gentle, shy man, but her nature begs to differ. This is why females often end up with those " douche-bag" boyfriends while the soft and gentle beta-males sit on the sidelines waiting for their Cinderella women to wise up.
Gentleness doesn't necessarily imply meekness. The hardest man is the most gentle. Headstrong hardness is unbalanced. He lacks spontaneity because he goes too fast. He's too eager to dominate the external world before dominating the internal one.
I'm disgusted by most PUAs but I still have a soft spot for Roissy/Heartiste. 'Game' should serve you, not the other way around. Once 'PUA' becomes a lifestyle, you've gone too far. Picking up women is nice, but it's not worth obsessing over.
Perpetualburn wrote: " Gentleness doesn't necessarily imply meekness. The hardest man is the most gentle. Headstrong hardness is unbalanced. He lacks spontaneity because he goes too fast. He's too eager to dominate the external world before dominating the internal one."
I shall respond to this with the following quote:
"Women instinctively admire soldiers, athletes, kings, nobles, and fighting-men generally, above all other kinds of suitors - and rightly so. Nothing so lowers a lover in a virile maiden's estimation, than for him to be "whipped" in a personal encounter with a rival. Among all classes of females this sentiment persists. The best bid a man can make for the admiration of any woman (even the most pious) is a display of undaunted physical prowess. Young women have an instinctive detestation for the "good young man that dies" kind of adorer, and they positively abhor the pale coward - even though he be a blood relation. Strength, energy-of-character, ferocity, and courage, she admires in her possible husband, above all other qualities combined. Even to be carried-off by force, is not repugnant to her feelings, if the "bold bad man" is in other respects acceptable. She pines to be 'wooed and won' (or as it were) she likes to feel that she has been mastered, conquered, taken possession of - that the man who has stormed her heart is in all respects, a man among men. This suggestive female idiosyncracy is rhythmically set forth by an anonymous writer thus: "Down a winding pathway in a garden old, tripped a beautous maiden, but her heart was cold. Came a prince to woo her, said he loved her true; maiden said he didn't, so he ceased to woo. Came a perfumed noble - dropping on one knee; said his love was deeper, than the deepest sea. But the winsome maiden, said his love was dead, and the perfumed noble, accepted what she said. Came a dashing stranger, took her off by force: said he'd make her love him, and she did-of course." - Might is Right - on Love and Women and War.
Ragnar grasped women better than most PUAs, 100 years earlier. His 'chicks dig jerks' paragraphs were especially groundbreaking for the Victorian era. It's easy to see now, but considering how much veneer of ladyness the average women had back then (1890s), Ragnar was insanely perceptive to see through it.
Lyssa Har Har Harr
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Lyssa is a very backward female out of touch with her primal femininity.
"I am the harlot that shaketh Death. This shaking giveth the Peace of Satiate Lust. Immortality jetteth from my skull, And music from my vulva. Immortality jetteth from my vulva also, For my Whoredom is a sweet scent like a seven-stringed instrument, Played unto God the Invisible, the all-ruler, That goeth along giving the shrill scream of orgasm.
Every man that hath seen me forgetteth me never, and I appear oftentimes in the coals of the fire, and upon the smooth white skin of woman, and in the constancy of the waterfall, and in the emptiness of deserts and marshes, and upon great cliffs that look seaward; and in many strange places, where men seek me not. And many thousand times he beholdeth me not. And at last I smite myself into him as a vision smiteth into a stone, and whom I call must follow." [Crowley, The Vision and the Voice]
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Real women don't like soft and gentle men; they desire the opposite. Woman is soft - man is hard. Yin-Yang. Those quotes of Lyssa you pasted are despicable.
But who's the one commenting? Real men have their own minds and their own brains... they do not use Erik Mystery's pe--s to score others.
The drug-abuse to your brain isn't helping either.
Laconphile wrote: " Ragnar grasped women better than most PUAs, 100 years earlier. His 'chicks dig jerks' paragraphs were especially groundbreaking for the Victorian era. It's easy to see now, but considering how much veneer of ladyness the average women had back then (1890s), Ragnar was insanely perceptive to see through it."
Yes, it's no wonder this quote was written in the introduction of one of the editions:
"Might is Right is an unprecedented book by an author of extraordinary virility and rugged primeval force, whose sense perceptions border on the supernatural. The Laws of Nature are explained, defined and expounded upon in detail in eloquent 19th century English."
Anfang
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"Might is Right is an unprecedented book by an author of extraordinary virility and rugged primeval force, whose sense perceptions border on the supernatural. The Laws of Nature are explained, defined and expounded upon in detail in eloquent 19th century English."
I imagine this could also be the introduction to a romantic novel for those cold, lonely winter nights before they had central heating.
Anfang wrote: "I imagine this could also be the introduction to a romantic novel for those cold, lonely winter nights before they had central heating."
The modern nihilist is infused with a framework of eros. Feminization at work - figures.
See this is the death of a civilization. A return to the animal. Passing of a great race. Marriage is a business transaction, and a merger of families. A rich female had guaranteed good genetics due to her fathers success. Dominant males of a lower cast could always marry into a richer family, if they thought he showed potential. One of Chinas richest man started as a servant in the Philippines to an Aristocratic family, he married their daughter and the rest is history. This is the backbone of all nations, and once its gone so is the country.
For men the only female worth reproducing with is ones that you cannot trick, and who rationally sees it all as a mutually beneficial cooperation. For females the only guys worth marrying is the ones who value your womb, if he is after your looks then you will be fucked when they are gone, and your children's genes will be that of a degenerate. Do not fall for retarded social status boosting tactics, get a rich guy who cares about you, or a really nice guy who still has decent genes.
Fortunately the Chinese seem to be taking my advice so all is not doomed.
I think this is Primal Rages brother from another mother. R-type is too strong! You were meant the be born in the Congo, plenty of looting and raping there. Maybe in another life brother.
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Blood wrote: "I think this is Primal Rages brother from another mother. R-type is too strong! You were meant the be born in the Congo, plenty of looting and raping there. Maybe in another life brother."
Cold and calculated baby; it is the way of the future. Remove one self from the emotional sphere of the mind, and just think. Solve the puzzle. This is what's best in life.
Ah, so you want to be a robot? Nature is too dirty for you, right? You are too 'civilized' and 'classy' for her, aren't you? You are just another nihilist, my friend. You have clearly displayed your antipathy for nature, and you seek to escape it via transhumanism. Sad, sad soul.
You are another nihilist my friend. The difference being I have no emotional attachment to any given result. Thus will thrive in any predicament. I love the past and the future, but I don't live in the past. I wonder, who is the most deluded?
I admire the past, but live in the now, and plan for the future.
You sure love to jump out of the woodwork and bash me, don't ya? It makes you feel good; like you've meta-physically jabbed me in the face. Seems like I struck some sort of nerve with you. Was it my comment on race-realism? Or the comment about sexually inept philosophers with girlish bodies that use intellectualisms as compensation? Both perhaps? Not so " emotionally detached " are you, kiddo?
