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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 3:47 pm

satyr wrote:
I ask myself....
"Is this cunt agreeing with me? But then why all this charade?"

And for the record there is no charade. It is a null discussion. YOU pounced on the word like a hungry beast. You created this entire argument on one strawman from a fake meaning of "spontaneous".
I might have been in agreement with you all along, but your bloodlusty inebriation would never permit you to see that or to grant it. Maybe it never will.

I... sort of... don't care anymore Smile
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For the record, AEon, you're an idiot and everyone laughs at you Wink
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I think we're supposed to laugh with him.




(...But it's not that funny)
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You know you have reached the mental limits of the manimals and sheeple when they explicate what they mean with "just because", "it just is", or "pleasure is the end".

You are now conscious of and beyond their common, average, modern limits.  And most of these sheeple cannot, physically, mentally, expand their limits further.  Even if they could, most are too cowardly to push outward into new territory, explore the void, whatnot.

These "spontaneous" comments of theirs indicate their intelligence, essence, quality, for what it is.  At this point, it's too easy to push or bully them around, if you want to.  They are slaves ready for usage.  To be used.  Many even make a point of pride about this.  They want to be used, by a "higher power", or simply a more intelligent being than themselves.

It's about intellectual ability, potential, degree, and quality.


It's not a coincidence.
Typical..

I ask the bovine dullard to explain what "just because" means and he repeats back to me my own positions.
"The past" he tells me.
 Shocked
Causation summarized in two words:"Just because".
What?!

With the cunt my own positions are now repeated back to me, as if they were her's all along; as if from "spontaneous" an entire world of meaning is now emerging, when before it was 'pleasure as an end'.   
Now it's about accumulated energies, and pressures, and expending the excess, and blah...blah....whereas before it was "pleasure for its own sake"...'nough said.

If you have the time and are interested, go back to the beginning of the exchanges and read what I wrote as a response when both the bovine and the cunt accused me of verbosity...and began to snicker like schoolgirls.  
I talked too much and still they did not get it.
They were laconic, because in a word one is supposed to assume profound insights....without them having to demonstrate them.
It's a fuckin, mind-game.
Do not say much and then pretend you understand. If cornered claim that you meant something different, or repeat what they tell you as if it was your own.

But Purple Dragon, did you not do exactly the same thing a while ago?
You antagonized me, being clueless, and then the next day you would repeat back to me my own positions, telling me I was saying the opposite the day before.

Who are we kidding here?

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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 4:00 pm

phoneutria wrote:
If he uses this time to study art even though he has no exam, but because it pleases him to do so, he is under an intrinsic motivation.

Pleasure is still the end, dumbass.
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Why are you acting so surprised now.... your positions being repeated back to you?

Satyr, HOW MANY TIMES did I tell you that you were arguing against a strawman? How many, shall we count?

Do you ever listen?
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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 4:06 pm

Pleasure is an end, dumb fuck. So is beauty. So are the other values I listed. That hasn't changed. It's explained in the Aesthetics thread, as well as my other one.

Criticize me for months. And then say, "Oh, I wasn't talking about you..."
Criticize me for months. And then say, "Oh, so... what do we disagree on?"
Claim that I'm laconic, and hide. And then say, "Put your theory into one or two sentences for me".
Claim that "common retards" don't read the full posts. And then tell me that you don't read full posts.

I have to puke, excuse me...
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And more importantly, will you, or will you not grant that you misinterpreted me?

Kiss the hand, dear. I am waiting.
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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 4:08 pm

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Intrinsic motivation is an impulse to pursue an activity that is in itself enjoyable

Right there is the error.

There is no "in itself" enjoyable - for the reasons already explained in the Aesthetics thread on Objectivity.

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The distinction I have been making for months

This is false hyperbole.

There is only the appearance of "months" because half the time you were busy and so it looks as though you explained really hard through the "months"...


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is that only the activities that fit into this category are aesthetic.

Yes, only a kind of aesthetic,, your kind. Not the definition of aestheticS.

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I might have been in agreement with you all along, but your bloodlusty inebriation would never permit you to see that or to grant it. Maybe it never will.

And you?

Will you grant it?

Deal with the rest later.

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For the record, AEon, you're an idiot and everyone laughs at you Wink
I........I....care.....

What......other people.....think about me.....

I care..............A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really do.
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But Purple Dragon, did you not do exactly the same thing a while ago?
You antagonized me, being clueless, and then the next day you would repeat back to me my own positions, telling me I was saying the opposite the day before.

Who are we kidding here?
I am a learner, this trait sets me apart. My intention was always learning. And it helps to underestimate me.

However, my time for learning is coming to an end. Time for some teaching.
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Oh Geez...here we go again.
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Lyssa wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
Intrinsic motivation is an impulse to pursue an activity that is in itself enjoyable

Right there is the error.

There is no "in itself" enjoyable - for the reasons already explained in the Aesthetics thread on Objectivity.

The perceived error. That is an ongoing discussion. We're still disagreeing on that, dear, as you know.

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The distinction I have been making for months

This is false hyperbole.

There is only the appearance of "months" because half the time you were busy and so it looks as though you explained really hard through the "months"...

Let's replace "for months" for "in multiple posts" to satisfy my dear.

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is that only the activities that fit into this category are aesthetic.

Yes, only a kind of aesthetic,, your kind. Not the definition of aestheticS.

Dear, isn't aesthetics a theory of the aesthetic?
How do you suppose I should define aesthetics without first proposing an aesthetic?

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I might have been in agreement with you all along, but your bloodlusty inebriation would never permit you to see that or to grant it. Maybe it never will.

And you?

Will you grant it?

Deal with the rest later.

What am I to grant?
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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 4:33 pm

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phoneutria wrote:
For the record, AEon, you're an idiot and everyone laughs at you Wink
I........I....care.....

What......other people.....think about me.....

I care..............A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really do.

Oh dear I know you don't. In fact I think you don't even notice how you are ridiculed all over this forum.
I did not post this to make you care, I posted it so you'll know why I never reply to you.
It's because I can't hear you from waaaaaay up here Wink
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Lyssa wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
Intrinsic motivation is an impulse to pursue an activity that is in itself enjoyable

Right there is the error.

There is no "in itself" enjoyable - for the reasons already explained in the Aesthetics thread on Objectivity.

The perceived error. That is an ongoing discussion. We're still disagreeing on that, dear, as you know.


Right. So while the discussion is still going on, its no good to tell someone to stick it up their wall, is it, Precious?

See how you convolute to present yourself suddenly as so open-minded now...

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is that only the activities that fit into this category are aesthetic.

Yes, only a kind of aesthetic,, your kind. Not the definition of aestheticS.

Dear, isn't aesthetics a theory of the aesthetic?
How do you suppose I should define aesthetics without first proposing an aesthetic?

Does a human species differentiate itself into a race, or does a race coalesce to define a human species?

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I might have been in agreement with you all along, but your bloodlusty inebriation would never permit you to see that or to grant it. Maybe it never will.

And you?

Will you grant it?

Deal with the rest later.

What am I to grant?

What it is that you expected of Satyr.

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Oh dear I know you don't. In fact I think you don't even notice how you are ridiculed all over this forum.
I did not post this to make you care, I posted it so you'll know why I never reply to you.
It's because I can't hear you from waaaaaay up here Wink
You seem to know a lot about me.

Hopefully more than I know myself.

Anything else to add or are we finished here?
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Lyssa...allow me to fill you in...

So, I am debating this stupid cunt about aesthetics, and hedonism and so on.
She's disagreeing with me, because stupid cunts end it wherever they feel comfortable, and cunts usually feel comfortable when orgasm is achieved, or given to them.
Because women must be pleasured, and men are easier to please.
Women never consider their own satisfaction their responsibility - it is always someone's problem, but not their own; being that they are the passive element in the sexual game.
When a cunt vibrates in pleasure, vaginally or intestinally, she then wants to discuss feelings...and sharing, and receiving.

But that aside....

Then I try to discover what the root of this conflict is, because I really do not understand what this cunt is talking about.
She stops at pleasure, declaring it as the END...like an animal thinks humping is the only thing it wants, having no clue as to what it is doing and why.
I make the mistake of asking her a question to see what her positions are.
The cunt responds with a terse "spontaneous"...and very little more.
I become confused, since this is part of my positioning....and where I go beyond it.
For me saying it is all innate, for example, is simply stating a starting position from where one advances towards explaining what this "innate" means.
 


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"But allow me do DEMONSTRATE, by a brief retelling of facts, all of which can be savored again in these threads referenced below.

1. I made a statement that aesthetic pursuit is spontaneous.
2. Satyr shat a brick over the word spontaneous ( "It's spontaneous, magical....it has no explanation.
Like spontaneous combustion. It just happens. Out of nothingness. )
3. I told him he was arguing against a strawman.
4. I continue to urge him to correct himself (We will have the old man understand the meaning of the word spontaneous by the end of this week. We shall dunk his spongy grey matter in a pool of the stuff.)
5. He picks up a dictionary and realizes that the word spontaneous does not imply anything magical.
6. Now suddenly, it is I who must have thought that the word meant something magical. Otherwise, it would mean he had been fighting his own imagination all along!

I am tired of your idiocy and your false, dishonest caricatures.


And this is what fifi wrote before and in response to which Satyr made the "magical" remark wrt. her saying "spontaneously" -


"When we engage on aesthetic pursuits, it is not because we are concerned with our necessities, it is done freely and spontaneously for its own sake, because it interests us.
Call it trivial if you will. I call it the place where we find ourselves Human."

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She divorces aesthetics from need, and so Satyr makes the remark "magical" with reference to her saying spontaneously.

So he asks her, does it come about magically, etc...

Now fifi presents him as an idiot as though he does not know the meaning or what he is talking about and like he were falsely caricaturing...


etc.

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Dear Lyssa,
There is no hope here.
We are dealing with simpletons.

For them the aesthetic sense emerges out of nothing, or anything.

The idea that agon, struggle, is continuous, because the Flux never ends, and so need is constant, is something they cannot accept.
They think that because they do not feel the need, it is no longer there.
The idea that pleasure, the sudden decrease in the sensation of this unending agon, does not constitute an end in need, they will never accept.
The idea that what they find appealing, pleasing, beautiful, is rooted in this struggle, they will never accept.

Once God was murdered another Absolute End/Beginning had to replace Him.
For some it was a sanctified form of humanity, where sex was taken away leaving behind this ambiguous morphism that could be imagined in any way possible, or necessary to meet social needs.

For others a reversal to primal modes of Becoming became an addiction to the sensations which are now easy, within sheltering systems, turning the animalistic into something divine....the Noble Savage, or the purified nature of the art-form, where the less reference to reality it had the more appealing it became....for some it was pure self-numbing, drugs, entertainment, food etc.
we see this in the popularity of Negro music, in pornography, in the spectacular super-naturalism of movies and so on.  
As emasculation increased, and stress, as well, ennui set in.
This is where I draw a connection to Schopenhauer's positions on suffering and ennui.

Anything to decrease the sensation of existing.
boredom is itself a form of hunger, a need to stimulate the mind.

See, for the simpleton to be interested emerges magically, out of nothing.
It just emerges, just because.
We care just because.
Not because we are organizing within entropy, determining what we care about and what interests us...but for no reason.

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A little clarification here, having to do with the suffering/ennui dichotomy.

Excess is produced when need is already present.
An organism assimilates and gathers and stores, because it is lacking.
The Will is the focus upon what is the object/objective promising a satisfaction, gratification, of what is lacking, what is needed.
If it is successful this accumulated energies, become excessive.
Libidinal energies are such accumulated energies, left-over when the organism's needs are met.
Only then can the Will be set aside, and the object/objective meditated upon...Because the taste in it has already produced an attraction to the object/objective, and the reduction of the sensation of need to below the endurable means that the brain can now lose itself in the object/objective...just like a meditating mind becomes oblivious to its own existence.

Boredom is a product of this.
The brain, evolved in more austere circumstances, if paced in an environment where its energies are in excess of what is required it begins to feel this internal pressure to expel/discharge these energies.

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Lyssa wrote:
Right. So while the discussion is still going on, its no good to tell someone to stick it up their wall, is it, Precious?

What I want him to print is my intended meaning for the word spontaneous.


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Does a human species differentiate itself into a race, or does a race coalesce to define a human species?

I think you have it backwards, dear.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as aesthetics is a theory of the aesthetic, by conceptualizing an aesthetic I arrive at my aesthetics.

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What it is that you expected of Satyr.

A simple "I was wrong". Is that too much to ask?
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Lyssa wrote:
And this is what fifi wrote before and in response to which Satyr made the "magical" remark wrt. her saying "spontaneously" -


"When we engage on aesthetic pursuits, it is not because we are concerned with our necessities, it is done freely and spontaneously for its own sake, because it interests us.
Call it trivial if you will. I call it the place where we find ourselves Human."

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She divorces aesthetics from need, and so Satyr makes the remark "magical" with reference to her saying spontaneously.

So he asks her, does it come about magically, etc...

Now fifi presents him as an idiot as though he does not know the meaning or what he is talking about and like he were falsely caricaturing...


etc.

Using my example from before, there is no exam pressing you to study art, you are studing because you want to. Your interest is intrinsic. It is a spontaneous interest.

Where is the fucking magic here, dumbass?
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Satyr wrote:

For them the aesthetic sense emerges out of nothing, or anything.

No, idiot.
To say an action is spontaneous IS NOT THE SAME AS TO SAY IT COMES FROM NOTHING GODDAMMIT YOU FUCKING IMBECILE

*facepalm*

Once more, a spontaneous action comes from intrinsic motivation, which comes from a sensibility to a given stimuli, which comes from the organic construct.... which comes from ur mom!

Fucking swallow this already. I'm shoving and I'm shoving and it's not going in... SWALLOW!

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The idea that agon, struggle, is continuous, because the Flux never ends, and so need is constant, is something they cannot accept.
They think that because they do not feel the need, it is no longer there.

No, idiot.
"They" think that even though your stomach may be rumbling, you may turn a corner and immerse yourself in the awe of a landscape.
That need exists, but it is separate. It does not come into play.
I don't care if you agree with this or not. You are free to do so. But I have an issue with you telling ME what I think. Stop putting false interpretations into my words. You dishonest idiot.
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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 11, 2014 5:58 pm

phoneutria wrote:
Satyr wrote:

For them the aesthetic sense emerges out of nothing, or anything.

No, idiot.
To say an action is spontaneous IS NOT THE SAME AS TO SAY IT COMES FROM NOTHING GODDAMMIT YOU FUCKING IMBECILE

*facepalm*

Once more, a spontaneous action comes from intrinsic motivation, which comes from a sensibility to a given stimuli, which comes from the organic construct.... which comes from ur mom!

Fucking swallow this already. I'm shoving and I'm shoving and it's not going in... SWALLOW!


He is referring to your dissociating and divorcing need with aesthetical objectivity "for needs" sake.

Therefore his remark "emerges out of nothing, or anything."




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The idea that agon, struggle, is continuous, because the Flux never ends, and so need is constant, is something they cannot accept.
They think that because they do not feel the need, it is no longer there.

No, idiot.
"They" think that even though your stomach may be rumbling, you may turn a corner and immerse yourself in the awe of a landscape.
That need exists, but it is separate. It does not come into play.
I don't care if you agree with this or not.


So there, you "don't care" if someone agrees with this or not.
And only if definitions were left to whims and fancies...

In reality though, the need never presses itself and makes manifest on the conscious. And this doesn't mean, aesthetics is not a pursuit for needs' sake.

He is no "dishonest idiot".

It is you who does not care and so doesn't bother to grasp and then calls him an idiot.

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phoneutria wrote:
Lyssa wrote:
And this is what fifi wrote before and in response to which Satyr made the "magical" remark wrt. her saying "spontaneously" -


"When we engage on aesthetic pursuits, it is not because we are concerned with our necessities, it is done freely and spontaneously for its own sake, because it interests us.
Call it trivial if you will. I call it the place where we find ourselves Human."

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She divorces aesthetics from need, and so Satyr makes the remark "magical" with reference to her saying spontaneously.

So he asks her, does it come about magically, etc...

Now fifi presents him as an idiot as though he does not know the meaning or what he is talking about and like he were falsely caricaturing...


etc.

Using my example from before, there is no exam pressing you to study art, you are studing because you want to. Your interest is intrinsic. It is a spontaneous interest.

Where is the fucking magic here, dumbass?

Saying it is "not because we are concerned with our necessities" is non-sensical, as I have already explained why.

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When I get hungry, don't know why, but I crave ice-cream, and potato chips and hamburger.
not because I need these elements, and even when full I still crave them...but just because.
Something mystical happens inside of me...a spontaneous eruption and I miraculously only find pleasure in consuming these, and not....shit, for example, for shit's sake....or stones, for stone's sake....

It's weird.
I can't understand it.
I only hunger for hunger's sake.

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Right. So while the discussion is still going on, its no good to tell someone to stick it up their wall, is it, Precious?

What I want him to print is my intended meaning for the word spontaneous.

And spontaneous is what you related to aesthetic.

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Does a human species differentiate itself into a race, or does a race coalesce to define a human species?

I think you have it backwards, dear.
Correct me if I am wrong, but as aesthetics is a theory of the aesthetic, by conceptualizing an aesthetic I arrive at my aesthetics.

No. A specialization comes after the general theory.

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What it is that you expected of Satyr.

A simple "I was wrong". Is that too much to ask?

How about you?

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But yet again, ressenti-Mental Cowards can always spit anything anywhere like swine? without ever quoting or proving WHERE Satyr ever asked ANYONE to speak for him??

Did he?? Or were you just being facetious, Again?

If his own beauty and perfection (which he never claimed himself), is commanding enough to arouse and inspire some virgin to want to "freely and spontaneously" defend his views, that speaks for his strength and the sovereignty of his spirit. Should he feel ashamed when virginal-lotus-servers Want to submit to him freely? Such a sweet delight, that noble one is. Should he feel ashamed at the prospect of having 3 eyes, when you have 6??

Oh he didn't.

Good.

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The pathetic one here is you, not him.

Nietzsche: "The really royal calling of the philosopher (as expressed by Alcuin the Anglo-Saxon): prava corrigere, el recla corroborare, e sancia sublimare.*" [WTP, 977]

*"- To correct what is wrong, and strengthen the right, and raise what is holy."

You, Morono, Schizo-smears, and the likes would like to shame into silence anyone who feels that Royal and Sovereign calling in themselves...

Try a more loaded, ostracizing term than "pathetic".


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BTW dear, most spiders have 8 eyes, not 6. I may be wrong here, no time to look it up, but only the Loxosceles genus has 6 eyed spiders. Lil high school level biology for ya Wink

My Precious, I said 6 because the level of your idiocy tells me 2 have already gone redundant for you. like your tail? like your integrity?.
Egad!
elementary dear sherlockhemlock Wink

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But those bitter weary feminists who hate the earth, their body, their feminity, and despise even the animals they claim to revere, will continue to ramble because they love sniffing his brave cojones and can't get enough of it, though they pretend to deny,, they would even go to another forum to chase him so obsessedly, because they are soooooo res-Sentimental...

Dear, don't project on me. I'm not chasing anyone.
I was invited to ILP, and I was invited here.
I made on ILP a single post toward Satyr, all the others have nothing to do with him.


My precious i-savant, but your brain since day one here which I've been pointing out is so technopolized, so materialistic, only capable of thinking in quantity and numbers.
It doesn't have to be the "number" of posts you make there, the "intensity" of 1 suffices to qualify your obsession.
You can't get Satyr out of your mind, so res-Sentimental you are...
I can sympathize with your state.

What can I say?
The bad blood was your own doing...   the whole coming in here with the condescending attitude of "here, I give you a star", and such bull...  you set the Hue.

Ladies first, dear.

Women lead the way, dear.
Now That is power, no ego-loss.

You know what to do.... even with those 6 eyes.


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If I get what I want, I am pleased. If I don't, I shrug and move along. Get it?

Oh, I get it. Like how you say he's intelligent and gifted and charismatic and a voice you savour and orgasm to,,, buttttttt,,, that was just you merely being facetious and telling things He would like to hear...

Oh, I get it. Its like called being Light.

Sounds like one of those stomach-predators who get off on others and then say, 'but you wanted it'...


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LOL who am I kidding... you don't get it.

Precious, show me how Light you are.

Shrug is it?

Let me see you tell Satyr "I was wrong"  and then "shrug" and be all Light...  because lets suppose that is what he wants to hear.

Say the things he would like to hear. and shrug it off.

Go on. Do it.

"LOL who am I kidding... "



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All is pain, all is suffering, all is neeeed, es muß sein, the hammer drops, the woman kneels, waaaah Very Happy
I pat you dear, right on your head. Pat pat pat.

How sweet, when Precious Pup pats me with its paws...  so much loving it craves... so helpless for a hard boner...
I knelt to make that boner,,,  so precious.... for my precious.
off you go now, pet. savour to your heart's content.

nothing like it, no?
"Pat pat pat."
good.


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You mean after the desperate attempts  You pined to get him to talk to you and he ignored you blatantly, till this very moment?
You silly jester, you.

Old man has never ignored me.

A lie repeated often enough still doesnt become truth.

Precious, you only ask Satyr to ignore you because you are a coward, and its a coward's way of not having to deal with his posts and replies.

Your "ignore me" tactic has gone Obsolete.

Way past expiration date.

Can't use it anymore.


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I don't think that highly of myself dear.


Oh, but you do; how you jest, you silly attention-coquette, you.


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He has never ignored me because he wants eyes on him. He doesn't care whose eyes, he just needs to be looked at, admired, fawned upon. All of that marvel that nobody sees, only him, becomes validated here by the eyes of others.

You see yourself in him.


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How you expose your dreams and longings...

How you ache for his attention...

Don't worry, he might give it to you when you show you want him enough...

Do you dream of being his bitch too?
I don't mind at all, Precious.


You know so little.

And you?
Did you take it in deep enough?

Perchance, you spit before really chewing and tasting it well?


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Ask him to fill you in, dear. Kneel really deep, he might indulge you Wink

I trust him. What he thinks I need to know, he will tell me himself.

I'm brimming, already... you can have what overflows. Wink

Don't punish yourself, dear,,, you wont get this age back.
Its no good when your skin shrivels and your bones become brittle and you can't kneel anymore.

Allow yourself to really enjoy when you can...
My Precious.

Don't die without knowing.

"The unexamined life is...

 I love you

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A little clarification here, having to do with the suffering/ennui dichotomy.

Excess is produced when need is already present.
An organism assimilates and gathers and stores, because it is lacking.
The Will is the focus upon what is the object/objective promising a satisfaction, gratification, of what is lacking, what is needed.
If it is successful this accumulated energies, become excessive.
Libidinal energies are such accumulated energies, left-over when the organism's needs are met.
Only then can the Will be set aside, and the object/objective meditated upon...Because the taste in it has already produced an attraction to the object/objective, and the reduction of the sensation of need to below the endurable means that the brain can now lose itself in the object/objective...just like a meditating mind becomes oblivious to its own existence.    

Boredom is a product of this.
The brain, evolved in more austere circumstances, if paced in an environment where its energies are in excess of what is required it begins to feel this internal pressure to expel/discharge these energies.


However, as the state of satiation can never be preserved. All that one needs to do to relieve oneself of boredom is to sit still. Soon, life's needs begin to press once again, and one easily finds something with which to spend one's energy.

The actual source of suffering is a lack of motivation. One cannot find pleasure in what one does, and thus only acts in obligation of exterior forces. When these exterior forces are not present, one sits and complains about being bored.
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When I get hungry, don't know why, but I crave ice-cream, and potato chips and hamburger.
not because I need these elements, and even when full I still crave them...but just because.
Something mystical happens inside of me...a spontaneous eruption and I miraculously only find pleasure in consuming these, and not....shit, for example, for shit's sake....or stones, for stone's sake....

It's weird.
I can't understand it.
I only hunger for hunger's sake.

Sometimes we need someone famous to tell us how stupid we are.
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Eating to satisfy a hunger is not an aesthetic activity.
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PostSubject: Re: Methods of Mediocrity Methods of Mediocrity - Page 2 EmptyThu Jun 12, 2014 11:36 am

phoneutria wrote:
Satyr wrote:
A little clarification here, having to do with the suffering/ennui dichotomy.

Excess is produced when need is already present.
An organism assimilates and gathers and stores, because it is lacking.
The Will is the focus upon what is the object/objective promising a satisfaction, gratification, of what is lacking, what is needed.
If it is successful this accumulated energies, become excessive.
Libidinal energies are such accumulated energies, left-over when the organism's needs are met.
Only then can the Will be set aside, and the object/objective meditated upon...Because the taste in it has already produced an attraction to the object/objective, and the reduction of the sensation of need to below the endurable means that the brain can now lose itself in the object/objective...just like a meditating mind becomes oblivious to its own existence.    

Boredom is a product of this.
The brain, evolved in more austere circumstances, if paced in an environment where its energies are in excess of what is required it begins to feel this internal pressure to expel/discharge these energies.


However, as the state of satiation can never be preserved. All that one needs to do to relieve oneself of boredom is to sit still. Soon, life's needs begin to press once again, and one easily finds something with which to spend one's energy.

The actual source of suffering is a lack of motivation. One cannot find pleasure in what one does, and thus only acts in obligation of exterior forces. When these exterior forces are not present, one sits and complains about being bored.


"The actual source of suffering is a lack of motivation"

Motivation does not come out of nowhere; it is tied to need.


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