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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 1 Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 1 - Page 25 EmptyThu Dec 17, 2015 12:40 am

Nihilist are bullies, revealed by their false expectations.

They believe they have "the majority" on their side, and they usually do, but not always. There are limits. The nihilist begins with false premises, expected the (human) world to bend around herself, and forgive her weakness after weakness after weakness. She makes bad decisions, and others pay her mistake for her. This can be applied to judaism, christianity, and even islam. This is secular humanity in action, herd behavior and status.

Within her protective bubble, she expects everybody else around her to repeat the same humanistic lies. And if she ever comes across a higher intelligence, one who remains silent, or one who knows truth privately but lies publicly, or worst of all a man who simply doesn't care anymore, an older man close to death and willing to blurt it all out loudly and damn the consequences, a Socrates, then she will reel backward, quivering in fear, first attempt a fight, but eventually run away and seek reinforcement. She, the nihilist, is the bully. She speaks first. She hurts and damages first. She throws the first stones. She goads, harasses, and assails.

However, human history has painted her a perfect bubble. Because within society, remember, she is always, always the "victim".
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Nihilism is the social science of victimization.

And there is no depth, a black hole, bottomless, to the ultimate victim's ability to absolve herself.

"Blameless. Pure. Innocent."
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Saw this the other day, any thoughts?

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The first and most powerful reaction to confronting reality is...fear.

And so the herd of humanity immediately rejects, recoils, and retreats from this confrontation. Modern society and civilization is allergic to fear, and "hates" fear. Thus the modern never truly wishes, or achieves, confrontation of reality, but instead resides in theory, hypothetical possibilities. A new priesthood forms around Nietzsche, never truly understanding what was meant and intended by Willpower.

Because an individual will never understand willpower, without that confrontation, without enduring that fear.

Fear, ultimately, is the biological instinct and reflex against death. When the mind invokes fear, which can be done rationally, the reflex exists to save your life from harm, from predators, and from stupidity. Fear keeps your senses sharpest when a construction worker walks across steel beams, 100 floors above the ground, without ropes or harness. Without fear, without that sharpness of mind, eventually, he would fall, make a mistake, error.

Fear keeps the mind, and thus the body, sharp.


Remove fear from society, as has been done in the west, and continues to be removed "War on Terror", and the civilization will slip into deep hedonism, nihilism, and decadence.
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The Apollo pictured is too boyish.

Ares, Hermes, Apollo, and Dionysus all share somewhat similar physiques (youthful young men) as represented in sculpture...for whatever reason... Zeus/Poseidon/Hades are all bearded, mature men.

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Æon wrote:
The first and most powerful reaction to confronting reality is...fear.

And so the herd of humanity immediately rejects, recoils, and retreats from this confrontation.  Modern society and civilization is allergic to fear, and "hates" fear.  Thus the modern never truly wishes, or achieves, confrontation of reality, but instead resides in theory, hypothetical possibilities.  A new priesthood forms around Nietzsche, never truly understanding what was meant and intended by Willpower.

Because an individual will never understand willpower, without that confrontation, without enduring that fear.

Fear, ultimately, is the biological instinct and reflex against death.  When the mind invokes fear, which can be done rationally, the reflex exists to save your life from harm, from predators, and from stupidity.  Fear keeps your senses sharpest when a construction worker walks across steel beams, 100 floors above the ground, without ropes or harness.  Without fear, without that sharpness of mind, eventually, he would fall, make a mistake, error.

Fear keeps the mind, and thus the body, sharp.


Remove fear from society, as has been done in the west, and continues to be removed "War on Terror", and the civilization will slip into deep hedonism, nihilism, and decadence.

The reality within, is fear..which isn't absolutely separated from the objective world. You can't remove fear from society, only removing the human away from exposure to a natural world. Fear in itself is still present, it is just used and manipulated socially, the rest of it manifests into trivialities or triggered internally due to an external cut off, which could lead to an "internal" confrontation through the thought process and realization, while still within the artificial contained space. The modern war is not restricted to a physical space, or "the west".. the objective world, or reality is not a place you go to, you are within it as it is within you as you are manifested towards it, and a part of it. There are elements in the natural world that can trigger a wake up call, yes..but fear is not to be "endured", as you like to put it, like the endurance of pain, but rather reacted to....not like "reaction to confronting reality is...fear."..but like reaction to fear when the organism is confronted with reality......
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One of the hugest differences of gender,

Perhaps the largest, and most probably relating to other species as well, is the feminine desire to "change a man", aka to manipulate and control a man. Whereas, among men, have no such desire or inclination to "change a woman". Changing a woman is completely irrelevant to men. Men don't want to change women, we mostly just want the (hot, steamy) sex.

Thus the idea of "freedom", control, comfort, and trust between the genders, will remain unknown for most.

It boils-down and simplifies to: each gender has its own, completely different, "goal" than the other.
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Are you retarded, Æon?
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YrAfanc wrote:
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Fear is beneficial in the wild, but detrimental in civilization.
Anger is beneficial on a battlefield, but detrimental in a peaceful city.

Thus only "sadness or joy" are tolerated throughout most society, and this is also the reason that jew-christians and liberals preach "happiness one earth for all time".

The judgement of "positive and negative" is ulterior to what emotions are and why they exist, and also how.

Instincts, reflexes, and emotions can be, and are, manipulated.


This is just another aspect of "herd-society".
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Are you retarded, Æon?
Yes I have down-syndrome, very stupid, very ugly, and never been laid.

I weigh 90 lbs. and 5'2", please don't hurt me.
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Fear is beneficial in the wild, but detrimental in civilization.
Anger is beneficial on a battlefield, but detrimental in a peaceful city.

Why do you keep making stupid statements like this?

Fear is beneficial in the wild to a degree, being fearless leads to vulnerability, too much fear leads to being incapacitated, hindering the reaction of survival. Anger can ALSO lead to hindering the reaction of survival. Fear has ALWAYS been used to CREATE civilization as a fundamental part of it, to suggest otherwise is to say that human are just intrinsically altruistic and only intend on doing good. Fear is still used as a "benefit" in civilization, just more socially and subtle now.
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Were all the gods attractive?

I don't imagine Apollo as adolescent looking.

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I got so drunk once that I spent a night rambling and drooling, on and on with a buddy of mine, under the table.
The next morning I woke up with memories of me solving the greatest mysteries plaguing mankind.
I could not recall what the answer was but I do remember how amazingly I drove back home that night.

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Males, especially a group of males, are not publicly trusted or seen as "trustworthy" without a female present. If a female is absent then others look upon a male-only group as untrustworthy or something to avoid. A male-only group tends to be or become militaristic (or criminal, gangs, etc). As an army, a military group, is primarily occupied by males, not females.

The same is true for intellectual pursuits, higher education, video gaming, movies, computers, technology, the internet, science, etc.

Females, coinciding with their instincts, reflex, and biology, are focused on socializing, on makeup, on dancing at the club, on gossip, on which clothes to wear, on popularity, on attention-seeking, on luxury, on hedonism, on frivolities.

With the topic and concern of philosophy, this is no different than a male-dominated military group, a college advanced engineering classroom, great artists, great leaders, females are simply absent. And when they are present, they are negligible, boring, negative, distractions. Offering nothing to the group of males, except as a function of (sexual) approval, offering the promise of sex to a male who, may not actually be the best performer within the group of males, but instead the male that feeds her attention-seeking and approval.

She has no actual interest in the craft, the pursuit, the passion, the intelligence, the progress.
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One of the hugest differences of gender,

Perhaps the largest, and most probably relating to other species as well, is the feminine desire to "change a man", aka to manipulate and control a man.  Whereas, among men, have no such desire or inclination to "change a woman".  Changing a woman is completely irrelevant to men.  Men don't want to change women, we mostly just want the (hot, steamy) sex.

Thus the idea of "freedom", control, comfort, and trust between the genders, will remain unknown for most.

It boils-down and simplifies to: each gender has its own, completely different, "goal" than the other.

What about cultivating her into a mother for your children instead of having and keeping her as a mere sexual pleasure object.

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A noble class of females should be cultivated from age 5-12, teaching them traditional and conservative values, building a home, choosing a superior mate, and defending their society from outsiders, genetic pollution, and other threats against them, their children, and their men.

This does not occur in modern civilization, except in strictly religious communities, that still preach conservative values to their daughters.
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The body of a feminine mind needs to be regularly touched, sometimes manhandled in order to center her chaotic energy, if such handling doesn't take place, anxiety attacks or sexual fetishism begins, especially for punishment.
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PostSubject: Re: Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 1 Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 1 - Page 25 EmptyMon Dec 21, 2015 5:41 am

Libertarians -

Okay, okay, can we please be reasonable* and start all over again in anarchy, because this time people will be 'rational' and society will naturally organise itself in a libertarian way. If only the evil oppressive state was gone then a free sustainable utopia would emerge. Because muh reasonable humanity.

reasonable in this case = faggy autistic
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Mr. Fang,

I posted the following - twice - elsewhere...seems to go hand-in-hand with your post above...

I encourage you, as I would any one, to pursue your utopia with great vigor...devote the entirety of yourself to it...make it happen.

Understand, however, other folks will work equally hard to see their utopias come to pass, and many of those rainbows aren't compatible with yours.

Also: some folks want nuthin' to do with any utopias and these folks simply will not comply with you (or any one).

Rough road for an idealist...good luck
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I think libertarianism is quite destructive for most of its adherents.
Because it is an ideology which effectively atomises those (mostly male and white) who are its followers. They themselves give up a lot of time and power to try and bring about a kind of utopia which is actually moving further and further away from them because their atomising ideology is disenfranchising them from the political-power realities. They are very heroic, very self-sacrificing, sacrificing their earthly interests and power for their ideal, while their ideal has no special place for them written down in its script.

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Sounds like you don't know anything about Libertarianism.

Libertarianism has enthusiasm from young white males precisely because young white males want to get away and escape from the christian secular humanist dominated Socialism and state politics. The primary goal is to leave the state obligations, especially including taxation, of which white male earnings are redirected to lower black and other colored females, to raise their dozens of bastard children.

You basically criticized the ideology in the exactly wrong and opposite manner. Are you even a white male?? This fact should be blatantly obvious to anybody interested in Libertarianism.
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You are at liberty to respond.
Magnus' over-bridled anger and passion are humorous and a great opportunity for play.

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I know what they dream of.
And this is me saying that libertarianism is a movement which is moving them away instead of getting closer to the fulfilment of those aspirations.

It's only a 'successful' and growing movement if it keeps people hooked and at the same time dissatisfied, longing for more. The success lies here not in the getting closer to your goals but in a persistent movement which can employ and pay some priests to preach.
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Really?
And how might I do that, being banned from ILP, and my ip banned on site?

He is hurt because I corrected him, concerning his error about indifference and focus.
A "leader" would have used a soft touch, flattery, and lies.

Everything, and everyone has value, as in value-selfing.
It is a given.
Everything, and everyone has love, as in love-selfing.


Value is the word?
Does he say "seeelfing" at the end?

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"Sounds like you don't know anything about Libertarianism."

That might be cuz there are so many strains of it running the spectrum from left to right.

About the only thing these strains have in common is putting 'I' before 'we'.

But it's all crap...if you need a philo/cultural/social/ideological reason to put 'I' first, then no amount of 'liberty' will save you or comfort you or validate you.

Just getting up in the morning, stumbling to the can, and taking a piss is all the evidence you need that 'I' comes first and 'we' comes second. After all: if 'you' don't (or can't) attend to that basic self-maintenance first, and all by your lonesome, then what good are you (to yourself or the many)?
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It becomes clearer as history progresses that words were invented, developed, and utilized by one type, one class of people, before the rest, before the rabble. The rabble receive a second-hand education, inferior. They use words as an amateur does, not knowing their worth, meaning, or value. Their language is common, democratic. They vote on words without knowing their full potentials, or their pasts.

The commoner has a compulsion to disconnect words from their meaning, in the same way they disconnect reality, in an attempt to shroud and hide their egos within an "ideal realm", idealism and subjectivity. This is false. And you see this demonstrated often, day to day, week to week, by those who appear on "philosophy" forums in bad faith. They do not, will not, and perhaps are incapable, of arguing in good faith, in addressing and confronting the meaning of words and their true forms.

It's easier to remain a child and uneducated. It's easier to use common language and bask in ignorance.


Perhaps it's in the blood, and these common people, the lower class, will never change. Because it cannot change, even if it wanted to.

It cannot reconnect gene and meme. The words are not "theirs".


Experiment for yourself:

Does a thinker, a philosopher, an individual use "his own" words and meaning? Does he admit his definitions? Is he clear? Or does she repeat another's thoughts, endlessly and expectantly? Is she predictable? Didn't she take her "ideas", her ideals, from another?

A true philosopher, thinker, individual, man, is more obvious. He speaks his own mind, because his mind is hard won. His thoughts, that he claims his own, are hard fought. Hard earned. It's no easy task to think, for yourself. To gain and win individuality, requires conflict, argument, and most importantly, honesty.

Courage to confront others, through language, while knowing what language is, and the purpose of our communications.
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The female ego and individual sense-of-self feels validated and esteemed only after males fight over access to her sexuality. If few men, and low quality men, are all she receives sexual attraction and attention from then her low self-esteem will revolve around that. If many men, and high quality men, are whom she receives attention and competition then this will boost and improve her self-worth.

Females instinctively revolve around this, giving them meaning, value, and purpose in life. It would be rare, or impossible, to validate herself and justify her existence in any other way. This also explains why females are more socialistic as a female disposition. A female's value in life revolves around other people, and specifically, males competing over one another to mate with her.

Subsequently, male value and self-worth in life, does not revolve around females competing over him. A male's value is more "objective" and less socialistic.

It is too common that maleness and masculinity is defined by a man "not caring what others think of him". So social dynamics of males and females are opposed, that a female relies on social judgments to improve her ego, while doing so for a man, would make him feminine and "less of a man".

At least this is the case for humans trapped within civilization.
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A more "objective" woman, if one were to exist, would go online and use the internet in the vain hope that others, particularly men, respect her for her "mind" instead of her good looks and physical attraction. But what would be the results? Consider philosophy forums, for the past 5 years or so. How many females who participate within philosophy forums contribute or add to discussions? How many have interesting ideas? How many withhold challenging thoughts or personality? How many of them can actually argue, better than a child, using reason and rationalization?

Very few. Or none. None, not one.

How demoralizing must it be for women, then, that even the best of their kind, their "female heroes", their "female philosophers" and thinkers of history, are so few in number, and even now, it's too easy to expose the obvious, the hypocrisy, and the double-standard?

When a female posts her picture online, then she steps backward. She reveals herself and her shallowness. She could not be attractive for a man, mentally, and so she must resort to being attractive for a man physically. Her mind is not worth looking twice at, when anonymity and privacy dominate the social atmosphere.

When women are relieved of their greatest weapon and asset, the promise of sex, then what are they then left with but an empty shell? Hollowed ground. Is a woman's mind worth seeding? How can it be, when it's empty? When there's no substance to it?

The shallower, "stupider" woman, maybe more in line with nature and more sexually successful. A stupid woman, a common woman, feels no need to validate her mind, or to "be intellectual" or even to have intelligence. Intelligence is unnecessary, for her. Sex is enough.


The main problem arises when men look for "intelligence" in women, and find none. Because what could intelligence be, other than her sexuality, and other than the manner in which she denies most men sexual access, but gives permission to one or a few? Feminism has long sought, for decades now, to justify women's existence as "more than a sexual object", but what "progress" have they made? Have they demonstrated this so-called female intelligence? Have they truly participated or "added to" philosophy?

To be honest about gender, or race as another issue, is to become completely politically incorrect. We are told, publicly, within civilization, never to speak of such things. These are the thoughts and ideas comedians use, to cause a laugh and rush of hysteria to their crowds of enthusiasts. Comedy is a form of pseudo-philosophy, a way to transfer the harsher (objective) truths of the worlds, recycled back into civilization. Ha ha, it's funny, how we must all pretend that women are other than they are, and men are other than we are.
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Once a truly intelligent individual (man) is set to philosophy, then he will approach a threshold, a singularity, a point of no return, a "dive into the abyss".

Once you take this dive then there is no coming back. Like Neo pulled out of The Matrix. A man can be pulled out of civilization, mentally, and forced back into reality. The social, civil world is not reality. There is no "real world" within the politically dominated minds of humanity. Humanity is a world of false, weak, words. Meaningless, childish, infantile.

Perhaps the only saving-grace of becoming removed and separated from society is the newfound freedom of a philosopher's thoughts. Freedom to grow, to expand, to strengthen, and to explore. Especially to explore, the infinite space of existence, and to project through time. To relive and rediscover the past within yourself, within genes and blood. And to foresee and expect the long distant future. Because time is objective. Man revolves around time. Time does not revolve around man. Time is existence.


Outside Civilization,

There's nobody out here, or maybe, a rare few. Time will pass your solitude. There's nobody here with you. And there may never be anybody to meet you again. And so, those you do meet, will form stronger connections and bonds. Because being removed from society, outside to roam and free to travel, will give newfound meaning and value to social connections. The bond shared, is one of exclusion, and respect for reality.

The "Outside World" is one of physics and brutal violence. Nature, war of all against all. Strength and intellect are most needed and necessary to survive, always on edge, no peace, forever on guard. There are no safety nets, no places of rest, no luxurious comforts. Only within civilization are such things found and taken for granted by humanity.

To remain merely human is to remain a child, for an entire lifetime. These eternal-children, the jew-christians, the "chosen ones", are too easy to detect. Too populous. Trapped within civilization, but even worse, never wanting to leave. Never maturing, never adult.

Always a girl or a boy. Never a woman or a man.

This is why Man is a "Becoming" and a function of willpower. Without the willpower, to become adult, to become more powerful with your strength and intellect, then there is no such thing as "Man". A girl requires a man to make her into a woman. A boy cannot make a girl into a woman.

Thus explains why there are so few men and women in the humane "Inside World".
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