Seeing as most people on here are bright sparks, I'm sure everyone is aware of the New World Order conspiracy theory. The reasoning behind this topic is a question as to how plausible you all think it might be? As we can see plain as day many actions are being taken by Western governments to create an ever increasingly docile and subservient 'citizenry'. The progress of the surveillance state, with the potential for more frequent use of drone monitoring and internet censorship points the finger towards big leaders trying harder and harder for a 1984 type situation (as conspiracy theorists like to point out). To me it seems the reason could be on one of two hands: either the inadequacy of a representative state to control its people and therefore requiring excess hyper-population controls OR it could be that secret societies and/or the same bloodlines that have been running the show for thousands of years are still pulling the strings behind the public eye. Thoughts?
Lyssa Har Har Harr
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To me it seems the reason could be on one of two hands: either the inadequacy of a representative state to control its people and therefore requiring excess hyper-population controls OR it could be that secret societies and/or the same bloodlines that have been running the show for thousands of years are still pulling the strings behind the public eye. Thoughts?
A conspiracy, in my view, is about a wilful manipulation of energies, processes, which may or may not be wilfully produced.
Man conspires to manipulate the forces of nature, for example.
As this relates to the present situation, and to what you are implying, some preliminary thoughts must be stated:
1- Environment. The present environment, on earth, is increasingly becoming an artificial one. By artificial I mean that the contained spaces, and resources available within these spaces, are now reaching the point where human intervention is beginning to affect human destiny to a greater degree than the conditions intervened upon. This creates beneficial effects, but also detrimental collateral effects.
An example would be the imposition of sexual rules upon men and women, and the sheltering of man from natural culling processes, results in populations in excess of what would be considered viable, balanced, given the restricted spaces and available resources. And that's just one example of human intervention upon a natural process, reproduction, which is resulting in artificial collateral effects.
2- Social Power. Men have always conspired to create and to maintain control, order, power. These groups may be overt or covert, but they do not invent the circumstances they then attempt to direct in ways that will benefit them and their own.
There is a reason why certain ideas emerge and take root in the places they do and in the time periods that they do. This is not accidental. Environmental conditions, whether natural or the by-products of human meddling, decide what is useful and, therefore, what will offer an advantage, becoming seductive and viral.
Nihilism is the term I use to describe the family of ideas/ideals that contradict natural processes and that attempt to create internal harmony/order/control by subverting human instincts and predisposition formed within natural environments. These nihilistic ideals/dogmas could only flourish within specific social/economic cultural conditions. Their utility is easily understood. They inhibit the natural drives which in overpopulated environments would become too destabilizing to the prevailing social and economic order. Mimetic castration is part of it. I've named it feminization, again, for obvious reasons.
Nihilism in the east became viral long before it was introduced in the west, through cross-contamination, and when the circumstances became fertile for it to take hold. In the west this Nihilistic anti-nature, anti-past, anti-life, dogma entered via Judaism...who were influenced by Zoroastrianism. then it morphed, when it came into contact with other cultures. Egypt, was one, but the most important mutation occurred when this nihilistic dogma, now a religious/spiritual attitude, came into contact with the cosmopolitan Hellenic civilization, or aspects of it. Its new form we call Christianity. It was inevitable in a civilization, such as Rome, full of slaves, that this new virus would become infectious. Was this spread used to conspire? Definitely.
Globalization is the normal outcome of unhindered reproduction and where the female sexual filtering mechanism has been dominated by the institutions, along with male sexual behaviours which evolved to deal with female sexuality. Technologies are making primal reproduction, traditional reproduction, superfluous...even damaging to systemic order.
Are there families, bloodlines, who are trying to direct these natural and artificial processes? One can bet on it. Only a naive mind would think that powerful men would not cooperate for their common good.
Without the environmental condition of decreasing spaces, strictly controlled resources anti-nature, anti-life, dogmas, such as those of Judaism/Islam/Christianity, and later Marxism and secular Humanism, would never become a method of mass-manipulation.
It's quite clear that there is a conspiracy. What kind of a conspiracy, and by whom is the real question.
You only need to look for the ideologies that control the public hegemony, and realise that their dualistic nature is there to devide and conquer. We can look at the left vs right politics, and see how artificial that whole spectrum is. Political oppinions are held by one side at one time, and another position in another time. Political history is full of inconsistancies. If we look at polical spectrums, then both "right", and the "left" are very similar in many ways. These similarities are the key points of seeing behind the curtains.
If both left and right keep protecting an oppinion, ideal, view, and get angry for you when you question it, then you know that there is something behind that critizism. The more you attack and critique the emotional in their thinking and expose it, the more you get angry attacks by those who benefit from the emotional positions and views. Emotions are not facts, and when emotions are used instead of facts and reality to direct, then you can be sure that there is lot of bullshit.
Also I would be critical of "facts" as well. Information doesn't have authority, EVER! Governmental institutions are there to give authority to a particular views that are favourable for the ruling elite, and the ruling political ideals. They for sure are not there to critique and to do revolution against the ruling elite, or the ruling elite would shut it down. There is lot of bullshit being pushed by "humanistic sciences" like egalitarism, humanism, liberalism, women studies, etc.
Political correctness by itself is a tool to control by using shame and fear, and therefore control what we dare to think. Slanders of sexism, racism, or facism are to control the public oppinion as they have strong cultural negativity.
Another way of looking at this is the Machiavellian way, where we look at the basics of power. Machiavelli said that public image is the corner stone of all power. How people see you and know you determines how much power you have. So then you ask, who controls public oppinion? Media. What ideas media promotes, and you know what they represent. What ideals media disrecards, attacks or redicule, and you know who they are up against. Next you follow the money, and ask who finances the media. By doing so you find who is controlling public oppinion, and what political groups they are representing.
All identities are political. This means single people are trying to lift their influence on their enviroment as are collective groups. People want to be part of a collective identity, because that way it increases their own power. Human is a weak by itself but belonging to a group and having that groups identity the individual tries to harness the groups power.
We live in a capitalistic society, so money is power. Who has money has power. Media control and money are ways to control this society.
Lyssa Har Har Harr
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U.S.A. The nation preaching democracy and humanism is the only nation to have ever dropped the atomic bomb, as they accused others of the threat, spreading suffering and death to millions; the nation responsible for the largest genocide ever perpetrated in the history of mankind, now talking about the Jewish Holocaust on a daily basis; a nation descended from whores, and criminals, the undesirables from Europe, who desperately flocked to its shores, in the beginning; now a nation dominated by the Judeo-Christian nihilistic meme, a culture of no culture, and so full of simpletons they have to import brains from elsewhere, while they pillage foreign wealth to maintain their degenerate, superfluous, lifestyle, which keeps brain-dead hedonistic morons numb, like snakes engorged and placid....
Yes this nation will protect us and teach us about human dignity.
Proud when after thieving and pillaging the resources of other nations the impoverished come to its borders seeking food and jobs. A nation obsessed with sports, movies, pornography, consumerism, money, as a compensation of mental impoverishment, calling itself "great." A nation of the "chosen".
I was thinking the other day, the commonwealth countries(and former ones). How could they amount to much if they were filled with the undesirables of Europe? No aristocracy broadly speaking and mainly just peasants. Too few quality individuals.
But on the other hand it selected for individuals/groups of people with an ability to step out into the unknown and face great uncertainty? Here for example in SA its always been a demanding and dangerous environment, albeit to greater and moving to lesser degrees.
Is it time for a New World Order that can monitor and police the chaos in an organized and structured fashion? Dr John Coleman in Consipriators' Hierarchy; The Story of the Committee of 300, summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows:
"A world governmental system that expects the citizens of the world to give up their inalienable rights and their fervent patriotism, for global rights, for reasons of global peace and security".
Is this a myth, or a coming reality?
Reporters report it, economists insist on it, religious leaders are working on it and politicians support it.
"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate. The main uncertainty is whether man can exert a positive role in shaping a New World Order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture." R. Falk, On the Creation of a Just World Order 1975.
Satyr Daemon
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One of its manifestations is feminization. It's internal mind-control methods are what I've described as Nihilism. the eradication of "nationalism" is but the tip of the iceberg. This method eliminates all identifiers contrary to the useful ones - the ones that turn individuals into drones: mindless consuming and producing zombies - stomachs and sexual organs with no brains.
The elimination of the past/nature is a detachment form the world to then attach the mind to an idea, or an institution. It is turning everyone into wandering Jews - with no connection to the earth, to their past, to phenomena - pure noesis. Once you detach a child from his family, or a father is absent, he goes looking for substitutes in others - gangs, money, institutional positions...he seeks a substitute identity for the one denied him. Once you create mindless, individualistic in the shallowest sense, hedonistic, materialistic, minds, you do not need to intervene and regulate them much. They are self-censoring, self-regulating, self-enslaving.
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reasonvemotion
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Thanks for that, my mistake, if it is acceptable, I will continue on from here, or perhaps both can be combined.
LaughingMan wrote:
Subject: Re: New World Order Mon Jun 23, 2014 3:37 am
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Yes, it does exist. Those that cannot see it are either too stupid or naive.
I understand the desire for power like anybody else, but these sorts of people want to turn the entire world into a type of prison planet.
I do not want to live in such an environment which by my own necessity puts me against them.
It is a conspiracy, much more than people realise.
"It is a secret elite conspiring to rule the world via world government and globalization". Wiki
It necessitates a dramatic change in world thought and in the balance of power and change becomes necessary. The Great Seal of the United States 1776 and the $1 translates "New Order of the Ages".
The New World Order ............. today's coming empire, controlled by crisis and deception.
There will be a time in society when every single person will have to have a number or some I.D. which without it you will not be able to drive a car, open a bank account, receive health care or hold a job. The technology already exists and is happening now, today.
What is the nature of control over people? Who controls and how? Who is controlled and why?
The rabbit hole? Mark Dice argues that the New World Order and secret societies, such as the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, direct human affairs and global politics, particularly those of the United States.
The Primary Issue: "Why resist a grand idea that promises peace and security".
James Harvey Robinson, Medieval and Modern Times, wrote, "besides the Emperors at Constantinople and the various German kings, there grew up in Europe a line of rulers far more powerful than any of these, namely, the Popes. In AD 533, Justinian, Emperor of Eastern Rome decreed that the Bishop of Rome should be recognized as the Head of all the Holy Churches. This decree went into effect when in AD 538 the Papacy subdued three Arian tribes and was able to grow into full power.
We must follow this most powerful and permanent of all the institutions of the later Roman Empire into the middle ages. We must stop first to consider how the western or Latin portion of Christendom, which gradually fell apart from the Eastern, or Greek region, came to form a separate institution under the Popes, the longest and mightiest line of rulers that the world has ever seen".
