Chaos and Order

Chaos, you see, not complexity, but randomness - energies with no pattern - are the source of the unforeseeable, what man would call irrational, unreasonable, counter-intuitive.

This negative was converted into a positive - inverted - by nihilism, and so we have the variety of spiritual and ideological dogmas that conceal, as an underlying factor, this nil, whereas they appear to be about the supernatural, the positive that contradicts experienced reality, the absent absolute.
A singularity of one, rather then its source of a chaotic whole.

Absolutism is the enclosure of Magian psychosis. It needs complete, certain, final, wholes. If not god, then Satan, if not universal morality then universal immorality, of amorality, if not absolute one then absolute nil.
This is contrary to the Spenglerean Faustian spirit of open frontiers, an open ended existence with no boundaries.

And, of course, this is why they reject free-will, placing the emphasis on the individual's judgment, his choices, and prefer the faith based fatalism of Afro-Asiatic miserly spiritualism, seeking concealment, sheltering, in linguistically fabricated wHoles.
No singular solution, but every solution with a cost not to be collectivized.
No one true path, but one world, multiple objectives, and multiple ways to attain them, if they are attainable at all and no concepts that have been defined out of existence - outside space/time.
Each objective creating a particular kind of man, because the objective, the movement/momentum towards it, is what reveals the objective, and the objective defines the subjective.
Here world - reality independent from all human subjectivity - is what determines the outcome. Success or failure.

But the postmodern needs equity - guarantees of an equal outcome - so it must reject all responsibility and surrender his/her will to a magical external agency.
His logic?
If you cannot offer complete, whole, certainty - his need to be saved - then its all up for grabs, and the retard is the same as the genius because both know not the absolute, which has been presumed into existence.
Do you see the self-deciet, the self-imposed entrapment?
Round and round it goes....preferring to dig out a grave than face who and what he/she is.

See, this is the utility of nihilism. It deals with existential issues imposed upon a species just awakening to itself - a suffering no other known life form has ever endured.

the problem is not free-will - it suffers the judgment of natural selection - but of collectivizing will, and judgment, and responsibility.
Now the negative consequences of bad judgments make the entire collective suffer the consequences and there's no way to correct them, since the individual never accept responsibility and they do not suffer their full severity.
Morality sickened by Abrahamism condemns an entire group to the judgment of natural selection, only its participants will go down accusing some entity, some agency, some mystical power, never having learned a damn thing.
Infants unto death, hoping some benevolent parent will swoop down and recuse them from a faith they had no part in.
Victim psychology.

how does chaos and order coincide?

*Both are exist.
*Both are interactive, dynamic..participating in Flux.
*Both are categories of energy - referring to a range of possibilities relative to an observer who evaluates their probabilities using itself as the standard - juxtaposition is what awareness is.
A stream of continuous juxtapositions.
*Both are dependent on the other.
From chaos order emerges and order interacting produces chaos.
*One has meaning relative to the other. Complexity is a form of order. I all is ordered life is unnecessary, and so is consciousness.
Natural selection - the foundation of Evolution Theory - becomes a farce - a sadistic cosmic joke.

Time was a central part of Heidegger's philosophy and Dugin picks this theme up according to Miller.

For me time is a subjective juxtaposition of oneself relative to change, and change is interactivity.
If we are "thrown into existence" then it is as an awakening of interactivity, change, relative to our own perceptions, determined by our speed of processing interactivity.
All is energy, which implies dynamic, constant, change, i.e., interactivity.
Without getting into details, again, this energy/existence we gradually become aware of - awakened to - is of two kinds, one the perceptible, which is characterized by consistency, repetition, predictability, i.e., order - patterned energies - and the other kind we appreciate as relative to the first, characterized by inconsistency unpredictability, i.e., random, chaotic - non-patterned energies.

We exist I the present and retain the past in memory as it falls away form consciousness.
Consciousness is this constant juxtaposition, comparison, of present with fading immediate memory - a sequence of past/present, producing a linear time.
Future does not exist - if it did we would not be free - but is being determined in the present becoming past, as a objective, a willful intent.
Future is only an issue for an organism, like man, that can use memory to project a future probability as a method of preparing for it - pre-emptively gaining an advantage over those that cannot or fail to accurately evaluate probabilities, using precedent and sensual input.
This would be most beneficial to predators.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:

Quite a number of cultures have neither the word nor the concept, for they do not view anything in terms of contingency, nor even in terms of probability. Only our culture has invented the possibility of a statistical response, an inorganic, objective and fluctuating response, the dead response of the phenomena's objective indeterminacy and instability. When one thinks about it, the assumption of a contingent universe, stripped of all obligations and purged of every symbolic or formal rule, the idea that the world of things is subjected to a molecular and objective disorder - the same disorder that is idealized and glorified in the molecular vision of desire - this assumption is insane. Scarcely less demented than the assumption of an objective order, of an unbroken chain of cause and effect, which belongs to the glory days of classical reason, and from which, furthermore, the assumption of disorder follows in accord with the logic of residues.
The idea of chance first emerged as the residue of a logical order of determination. But even hypostasized as a revolutionary variable, it still remains the mirror image of; the principle of causality. Its generalization, its unconditional "liberation," as in Deleuze's "ideal game," is part of the political and mystical economy of residues at work everywhere today, with its structural inversion of weak into strong terms. Chance, once perceived as obscene and insignificant, is to be 'revived in its insignificance and so become the motto of a nomadic economy of desire.

Seduction

Chance is believed to hide a secret order, a pattern only the player can fully perceive, or "seduce" to produce a desired result.
Luck provides an excuse, concealing a deep anxiety concerning what can only remain unpredictable, unknowable - chaotic.
When one has "beaten the odds" and chance has smiled on him, he feels vindicated, the secret order proving to be positive towards him and his existence. Suddenly the source of anxiety, the indifferent incomprehensible, becomes intimate, not so threatening.

Baudrillard, Jean wrote:

 Can one produce a finer parody of the ethics of value than by submitting oneself, with all the intransigence of virtue, to the outcomes of chance or the absurdity of a rule? Can there be a finer parody of the values of work, economy, production and calculation than the challenge and the wager, or the fantastic non-equivalence between what is at stake and what might be won (or lost - both being equally immoral)? Or' a finer parody of every idea of contract and exchange than this magical complicity, this "duel" obligation relative to the rules, this agonistic attempt to seduce one's opponent, and to seduce chance
itself? What better denial of the values of will, responsibility, equality and justice than this exaltation of (good and bad) luck, this exultation in playing with fate as an equal? Can there be a more beautiful parody of our ideologies of liberty than this passion for rules?
Seduction

Seduction being an attraction to what most reminds the individual of itself - when self-esteem is high - or what is same but different, compensating for any acknowledged "imperfections" - when self-esteeem is low.
Self-esteeem can be fluctuating shifting the object/objective of attraction, adjusting seduction accordingly.

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This is how I imagine a patterned vibrations/oscillations from 2 to multi-dimensional space/time.
The coloured points are fluctuating probabilities and the lines are range of possibilities.

Non-patterned - chaotic/random - energies are too erratic to be conceptualized.

Chaos, the Nil, is the source of man's deepest fears and the foundation of nihilism.
It is what some worship, finding there a weapon and a tool to exploit and manipulate human anxieties.
It is the foundation of Abrahamism, and all subsequent secular variants, like Marxism and Postmodernism.

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They prefer the singularity - certainty - no matter how absurd and incomprehensible.
Humans - like all organisms - prefer order, even if it is threatening. They prefer the known and knowable to the unknown and unknowable.

They prefer to define chaos as complexity because randomness is too unpredictable, making them feel vulnerable.
They prefer to believe that underlying the unknown is something that can be known, so they will accept any hypothesis, no matter how absurd, which portends to know the unknowable - occultism.

It comes from the fear of death. Because humans have logical abilities far beyond animals, the direct and immediate response to realizing and understanding mortality, is to seek out, idealize, and create immortality: "God". This is a seed for everything thereafter, everything ideological and nihilistic. I associate the concept with Thanatos, "world ending". Because reality is then too traumatic for most, the reality of death must be offset, so then it can become ignored and compartmentalized. This has a practical effect, otherwise, people would be in a constant state of sheer panic, terror, and horror of life. The fight-and-flight response thus becomes subjugated or sublimated. The degree to which death-fear is controlled, is according to the psychological and genetic Constitution of the individual. Simply put, some are braver and more courageous than others. Some "accept" that death will come, eventually.

Others, the weak-minded, which increases exponentially in 'Abundant' environments/civilization/domestication, become unsettled. Their 'Thanatos' drive becomes over-active. Thus, this leads to the rise of Nihilism, and world-annulling ideologies.

It's about denial of reality. It's about supernatural, superstition, an "afterlife". It's about denial of nature. Therefore, to demonstrate that mankind is "above" nature, or disconnected, an ideology of Transgenderism takes hold, to reassure as a coping mechanism, that "man can choose to be woman" and vice-versa. This soothes the Postmodern, cowardly mind, adult-babies, temporarily. However, it creates compounding, exponential problems over time, for when the costs of such degeneracy become too great for an economy and civilization to bear.

This is not ironic, as inflation spirals out of control, and the White House redefines "recession" in a desperate attempt to hold onto Congressional majority power.

This is also why humanity needs an "Absolute Thing", a semblance of something Immortal, unshakeable, unmoveable, to hold onto, in the Sea of Chaos.

A supernatural Life raft, on the waves of infinity.

Pattern recognition is racist.

And sexist.

And anti-Semitic.

And transphobic.

And bigoted.

And white-supremacist.

And elitist.

And privileged.

And—well, you can see the pattern.

But oddly enough, they never say it's wrong.

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Seriuosly...is this guy reading KTS?

Reason matures, cultivating the courage to acknowledge its limits; recognizing chaos as what remains eternally concealed and closed to reason’s intrusions; realizing that existence is not entirely knowable, comprehensible. It is reason that rejects its impulses to find relief in vacuous superstitions and comforting mythologies. Reason becomes man’s gatekeeper between order and chaos.

Ancient Cosmogony teaches that out of chaos the world emerges....but what is this "chaos"....is it nothingness - will, if we define 'thingness' properly, yes, but if we define it as non-existence, then no.
The idea of a some-thing- emerging from a no-thing, alludes to the definition of chaos from where order emerges.
No-thingness is not nothingness...meaning if we define 'existence' as a state of dynamic interactivity - energy - then no-thingness is not non-existence but something else.

Abandoning the ideal of chaos = complexity - concealed order - which implies that absolute order is the rule, and this rule is another way of saying 'god' or god's will.
"Will" might have been Schopenhauer's preferred term for what I refer to as energy, but this preference is a 'human, all too human one, adopted by Nietzsche who never offered any metaphysical insights but only adjusted , for generations to come, humanity's reactions, psychological attitudes towards Schopenhauer's pessimistic solutions to his descriptions - descriptions Nietzsche never challenged....only challenging his mentor's attitude towards them, with a few adjustments in terminology - from the more passive (feminine) Will To Life, he offered the more proactive (masculine) Will To Power.
Nevertheless will is describes as lacking, since whether it wills what ti clacks or whether it commands what it prefers, the implication is that it does not fully possess it, or that the possession of it is uncertain, not complete.

The distinction between chaos and order must be found in something other than existing non-existing...since existence exists, and there is no state of non-existence since, by definition it cannot exist, other than as an idea, a concept, held in a organic brain that uses dualities to make sense of the world it awakens to.
It is in these binaries that we must find reflected a cosmological truth, or the division of order/chaos, going back to tis theoretical beginnings - which is not a beginning but a point in its repeating cycle.

The distinction between chaos/order begins with a proper definition of both concepts, starting with what is perceptible, most intimate, sine organism is dependent and a manifestation order, and order is all it can perceive directly
Order = repeating, consistent, predictable, reliable, sequenced energies - pattern.
Chaos cannot be a more inconspicuous, complex, form of order, because then there is no distinction, but what is being described is a singularity, i.e., god, by any other name: absolute order.
Chaos can only mean a lack of order - non-repeating, unpredictable, unreliable, inconsistent, un-sequenced energies - non-pattern.

The beginning can now be conceptualized as a near-complete, near-absoltue state, described by eastern philosophies as Yin/Yang, a duality which can never be finalized into a singularity because one contradicts the other fundamentally, not superficially, like complex versus noin-complex order.

The best description can be found in modern understanding of Black Holes where not even light can escape - and time is warped - since time measures change then change is warped as we approach a Black Hole's event-horizon....meaning a Black Hole is the most ordered part of existence known to man, during this phase in the cosmological cycle - it is where the duality Yin/Yang is approached, mirroring the beginning of the cosmos as we know it - Big Bang.
If we change our metaphors and describe space as a expanding field of possibilities, and matter/ perceptible, ordered energies as probabilities, then a Black Hole is an implosion of possibilities towards the highest form of probability - approaching certainty. A singularity is not defined as absolute certainty.

Now patterns - perceptible ordered energies - become probabilities a living organism - evolved to perceive and feed on order - interprets as appearance - different patterns interpreted as different types of order, i.e., different matter, energy; interests them in accordance to its evolved binary methods, a priori concepts, facilitating its survival within the state it finds itself awakening - human condition.

What of chaos?
Linear time means movement form this near-absoltue state of duality - Yin/Yang - towards expanding, fragmenting, possibilities, eroding probabilities.
Since chaos, by its definition, cannot merge into stable unities, and lacks a pattern an organic mind can grasp upon - using its a priori methods to interpret them - must remain imperceptible directly, but, like the Black Hole that appears to be "falling out of existence", we can perceive chaos indirectly, through tis effects on what can be perceived - its effect of ordered, patterns, i.e., matter, energy.
Linear time is how existence can be experienced and it signifies a movement form this near-absoltue state of dualism - that can never finalize into a singularity - towards increasing levels of uniform chaos...a state that can never, itself, be finalized.
If absolute roder or absolute chaos were possible then the cycles of existence - true non-existence, which is impossible because non-existence does not exist.
There is no such 'thing' called existence...existence is dynamic interactive process....and non-existence describes a theoretical negation, end, of this process.

So what is this "thing", implied in some-thing, and no-thing.
It refers to order/chaos....and how a conscious organic mind, dependent on order, and ordering interprets patterns.
Without getting too deeply on how or why I think....mind interprets interactive, fluctuating patterns as abstractions - things it then combines and arranges into sequences.
'Thing' refers to this abstraction.
So, the state of chaos is a state where no-thing can be perceive... since it lacks sufficient patterns for an organic mind to perceive and interpret....perceiving this absence of patterns as a void - blackness, emptiness....void, abyss.
But what of complexity?
Well, here we must recognize the limits of an organic mind, necessitating only what can aid in tis survival, and no more.
An organism's a priori concepts and sensory acuity evolves only what is necessary, and no more...because more requires more energies.
A fine balance is struck between what is necessary and what is superfluous or excessive, impractical.
Nature is frugal....
So, for an organism both an absence of patterns and complex patterns are both interpreted as void, abyss, blackness....as in the Black Hole.
This creates the confusing, where the mind naturally sides with what is more comprehensible to it - inconspicuous patterns is more comprehensible to it compared to an absence of patterns; it is also more comforting, because complexity means perception is still possible, whereas an absence of patterns - order - leaves no such possibility open for a later time.
Chaos, properly defined, is literally the end of human perceptions - for it the edge of reality, the world, existence.

At the same time chaos, properly defined as a lack of order, an absent of patterns, is also necessary for cosmological cycles and more importantly, for humans, necessary for free-will - any degree of it.
Chaos makes choice essential....since absolute roder would make it unnecessary - why evolve complex, costly, organs, when all is determined?
Again...nature is frugal, evolving only what is necessary to survival.
Ananke....primordial goddess...later replaced by eros, ushering in the age of nihilism - hedonism, degeneracy, regression....symptom of another empire's decline.
If all is ordered nature would have evolved a necessary response to what is always predictable, inevitable, foreseeable....requiring no real-time reactions. Large, energy costly, brains would be superfluous....unnecessary....since no judgement and no choice was necessary. Everything would be according to plan - according to the inevitable. Determined and eternally repeating.
It is the unforeseeable effects of chaotic, energies, upon ordered energies, that make judgement and choice a necessity for survival.
Free-will being a qualifier of the act of choice - describing the organism's options and its aggregate powers to access or to overcome resistance.

Humanity's compulsion, and therefore Life's compulsion, is to believe that Non-existence is Pre-consciousness: Solipsism.

Man, therefore mammals, believes (falsely) that "before I was born, there was nothing at all" or translated, "before I awakened, before I became conscious, there was Nothing". This is an Infantile mindset, of youth, that people ought to transcend. But do they? Do most humans become Self-conscious, aware of their own consciousness? No, they do not, as has been demonstrated the last couple years on these forums. Rather, what people conceive as "objective" is a Solipsist mind trying to understand the Self-conscious mind.

Or perhaps more accurately: a lower intellect attempting to understand a higher intellect: inferior v superior.


The Absolutist mentality is a psychological compulsion to "stick your head in the sand", to return to the Infantile state, where the Solipsist has inverted reality. "I want to return to complete Safety, Security, Comfort" (back into the womb). From this 'Nothing', Man came, and most wish to return to.

This reversion/aversion, is to magnificence and awesomeness of Existence/Universe. Man looks out to the stars, and if he is courageous, wishes to travel to them, experience them, understand them. If men are scared, cowardly, then they would never dare setting foot outside of their tribal territory. They remain animals forever, stuck in the 'Garden of Eden' (Innocence).

God is a necessary concept, because without it the average mind cannot conceptualize absoluteness, as in absolute order, and absolute chaos; an absolute being that allows evil to exist, refers to absolute order emerging from chaos and producing chaos as part of its existence – this chaos/order duality can only be conceptualized as the good versus evil dynamic.