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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:44 pm


Reason deals with what is order.
It, then, assumes all can be intuited, that it all works in accordance to logic, and laws.
The Alexandrian Myth, is, to some extent, a reaction to mysticism, superstition, and all the irrational forces that produced, and justified, Abrahamic Nihilism, in the west.
But chaos, is not a more complex form of order. It is chaos, as in randomness -- what lacks all order, when order is not defined as an absolute state of being, but as a consistent, repetitive, predictable, movement - a pattern, or a vibration, a dynamic energy, that has a consistency to it.

As I've said many times before, reality is counter-intuitive.
We generalize/simplify a dynamic interaction of patterned and non-patterned energies into abstractions, and then mistakenly assume that the representation is the represented.  
We intuit in abstractions to give form, colour, taste, sound, to processes - we interpret them in a manner we evolved, and was the easiest, and most effective and efficient.

Only art could attempt to represent the counter-intuitive in an intuitive fashion, and language is an art-form.
But therein lies the danger, the temptation to corrupt.  
One can only approximate, allude to the real, but can also fabricate it, and claim that it is there, hidden, or in some below or above realm, beyond reason.
Artistic flexibility becomes an opportunity to delude and to fool one's self and others.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:56 pm

When ants conspire to kill, dissect, and carry back to their colony, a worm, they have no notion of a bigger plan.
They automatically act, in accordance to their nature.
A bull does not fight others bulls, knowing he will inseminate the cow, to pass on its genes.
It has no clue what it is doing, other than being driven by hormones, and evolved behaviours, to react in particular ways to particular stimulation, during particular times of a year.

A conspiracy need not be known to the participants.
Christians, for example, did not plan to destroy the west. They just followed the Scripture, manipulating their existential, natural, reactions to world.

Nihilism, and all its variants, need no universal plan, all the participants know about.
The memetic virus automatically guides their actions, without having to engage them rationally.
A virus need not know that it is killing the host it is propagating itself within, and that this will threaten its existence, forcing it to spread to a new host.
If it did, it may have second thoughts.
Ignorance enhanced efficiency.
Sam,e goes for a memetic virus.
Those infected by the ideals of Nihilism, whether they be Marxism, Judaism, Christianity, are more effective when they are ignorant of what is occurring.
They would become less efficient if they were aware.
They simply act in accordance to a dogma, a ideology, and like a host ant, infected by the parasite lancet fluke, it hijacks the ant's natural processes forcing it to behave in self destructive ways, inevitably killing the host and the parasite, which has already passed on its genes, to repeat the cycle in another ant.
The ant becomes a zombie, a mindless agent, behaving in ways contrary to its original genetic programming.

Therefore, when we speak of Nihilism, we do not mean it as a conspiracy, planned out and directed by some covert group....but of a mental dis-ease, that is then exploited or directed, sometimes unconsciously, sometimes driven by mindless automatic need the host does not have to fully understand.
The examples of Heisman and Weininger reminds us of what happens when the host becomes aware of its condition.

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:59 am

Sloterdijk, Peter wrote:
The difference between a relationship to the world that is primarily about seeing or primarily about hearing has immediate implications for the unusual question of  where we are when we hear.  
To see something, the viewer must stand at a clear distance to the visible object. Being spatially apart and opposite suggests the assumption of a gap between subject and object that has not only a spatial but also an ontological effect. 
The end result is that subjects see themselves as worldless observers who always adopt a kind of external relationship with the cosmos, which has already moved away from them; in that case subjectivity, rather like a predominantly theoretical divinity,  would be first contemplative and then active.
To the extent that the visual world is a distant world,  ocular subjectivity accompanies the tendency to interpret oneself  as an eyewitness who cannot be involved.  The seeing subject stands ‘ at the edge’ of the world like a worldless and disembodied eye in front of a panorama – Olympian contemplation and optical theology are two sides of  the same coin.
Philosophers trying to construe existence from the fact of  hearing,  however,  could not
have imagined an observer-subject far away at the imaginary outer limit of  the world,
because it is inherent in hearing that it never occurs except in the mode of  being-insidethe-sound.  No hearer can believe that he or she is standing on the edge of  the audible.
The ear knows no partner; it does not evolve a frontal ‘ view’ of objects at a distance, because it knows ‘world’ or ‘objects’ only to the extent that it is in the middle of  the acoustic event – or,  we could say,  insofar as it floats in or dives into the auditory space.  
It follows that from the beginning a philosophy of  hearing would only be possible as a theory of  being-inside – as an interpretation of the ‘intimacy’  that will become sensitive to the world through human wakefulness.  
However, humans usually react in the same way towards the audible as they do to their view of faraway things – namely, by objectifying and being distracted, not being intimate,  remaining untouched in a self protective, distancing mode.  
This reminds us that the liaison between the ear and intimacy cannot be exclusive. In other words,  we cannot assume the entry of wakeful intimacy from hearing alone – just as little as we can transform people into mystics by telling them that they are beings-in-the-world.

The Aesthetic Imperative

This passage from Sloterdijk's book The Aesthetic Imperative indicates the psychological line between the exoteric and the esoteric thinker, or the introvert/extrovert.
Nietzsche divided it along the lines of herd and predator psychology, implying a divergence between herbivorous and carnivorous approach to existence, or predator and prey.
We can use this to fully comprehend the differences between Pagan, or Realism, and Abrahamic, or Nihilistic attitudes, producing their own outlooks, relationships with world, their distinct philosophies.  

The predator is visually dominated.
It requires light to focus upon and bring close, what is at a distance.
It discriminates and clarifies - distinguishes.
It is separated from its goal, its prey, its objective, creating the attitude of objectivity: cold and calculated, calculating, judging.
The herbivore, multi-directional perspective.
It uses sound and smell for an all-encompassing perspective.
It can be preoccupied, with feeding, for example, and still have an ear for potential threats.
The sound comes to it, as a passive receiver, and it must react, not knowing what it is.
Sound is vague, imprecise.
The herd must delve into memory to determine its nature, after it has reacted to it - flight.
Sloterdjik comments on this in relation to Cioran's musical theory.


Sloterdjik, Peter wrote:
This is not far removed from Emile Cioran’ s curious musical theory:
Cioran, Emile wrote:
All that is musical in us is memory.  
When we did not have a name, we must have heard everything. 
Music exists only as remembrance of paradise and the Fall.
If we succeeded in clarifying this Gnostic aphorism, we would have the key element of an in-depth musicology that would embrace both the musical art of  the past and
contemporary music.  
To explain this I shall simply divide Cioran’s remark into two main statements.  
First, we hear in advance, before individuation, which means that foetal hearing anticipates the world as a totality of noise and sound that is always in the process of coming; from the darkness the foetus listens ecstatically to the world of sound, usually oriented towards the world, leaning boldly forward to the future.
Second, after the formation of  the ego we hear backwards – the ear wants to stop the world existing as a totality of  noise,  it yearns for the archaic euphony of the pre-world interior and activates the memory of a euphoric ecstasy that accompanies us like a night light from paradise.
We could say that the individuated or unhappy ear continues irresistibly trying to move away from the real world towards a space of  intimate a-cosmic reminiscences.

The Aesthetic Imperative


The audibly inclined will worship a return to the womb, where all sounds were comforting, and not threatening.
Noise coming to the fetus through a protective shield - vague, mysterious, and comforting.
The psychology of nihilism wants to believe in a vague benevolent all-encompassing Being.
What it lacks in understanding it compensates with feelings, emotions, delving into its memories to determine the nature of the mysterious sounds - subjectivity.  

Predators using sight, are light oriented, therefore humans would come to worship light as divine mediator between subject, self, and objective, object, other.
Herbivores or hers species are sound and smell oriented. Degeneration of humans returns them to an infancy, where sight is still developing, permitting sound and smell, and touch to dominate.
Nihilism is a return to a fetus state - a return to the safety of mother's womb.
Feelings, touch, sounds engulf them.
Herd psychology - preoccupation surrounded by sounds that must be connected to memories to make them intimate.

We notice this difference is sensual approaches in the construction of philosophies, regarding existence.
The Nihilist, or Abrahamic, as this type manifests in the west, is esoteric. It considers world a hindrance to its preoccupied imagination, its endless regurgitating ruminations.
The mouth in constant movement - chatter.
Sound is imprecise, but engulfing, just as their usage of words. They are swept away by them- instinctively, intuitively, reacting to their mention, the sound of them being vocalized.
Even when written, the word is repeated internally to reverberate in the mind, as sound.
Sound that can then be sued to fantasize, to manipulate, in order to construct a perfect, all-encompassing, protective echo chamber.
Return to paradise, or the hope of utopia is the psychological desire to return to where world was sound, beyond the protective shell, sparking fantasies but never touching the fetus.
Words are used to construct a noetic womb, an engulfing sonar chamber, of music and joy.

Herd psychology is a regression to the state of infancy - inversion of time/space, of maturation, called progress.
A world of subjectivity and self-referential sounding boards - inter-subjectivity.

Race, sex are social constructs because vision is not to be trusted, for the herbivore. It only reacts to sound: the sound of rustling, of a baby crying, of a sudden noise, that makes it jump.
The auditory dominated herd does not require light to listen. It may close its eyes to the world, and sleep, awakening only to unfamiliar sounds.
Herds project an auditory wall of comforting braying, grunting, creating a sonar field - an embracing sound.
Predators are usually silent.  

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PostSubject: Re: Satyrnalium Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:18 pm

Nothing significant has been added to philosophy for thousands of years.
All that has been attempted is to update the ancient insights, for new generations to comprehend and apply, and how to dismiss and selectively accept, or invert what has been given to us a long time ago.

All that has been attempted is a psychological, political, and social adaptation to ancient knowledge.

How could it be otherwise?
The world is changing, is in Flux, but not at a rate where all patterns, all order, would be obsolete, making life itself impossible.
Natural order is evidence of a persistence of patterns over periods of time/space no human mind can fully conceptualize.
Changing the symbols, words, approaches, attitudes, has not changed the facts, or how these patterns relate, (inter)act.
At the same time we know that chaos is increasing, and that even the fundamental forces, or laws, governing these (inter)actions are splintering, predicting a gradual movement towards chaos, or randomness, experienced as expanding space/time, and/or possibilities/probabilities - linear time.  

The ancients used their own metaphors to describe this (fire water) and in time Moderns, in every era, used their own, adding elements that would make it comprehensible, or tolerable to their contemporaries.
All else has been political, psychological, artistic adaptations, to escape or manipulate or use this understanding.  

Our own Nihilistic age, is one characterized by the attempt to evade this insight, and invert it, to manipulate and exploit those who cannot cope with it.

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