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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySat Aug 22, 2015 10:18 pm

camus666 wrote:
Lyssa wrote:



Still can't differentiate, huh?

Its a task that didn't even require needing any balls... right up your alley, and yet...

Here, hold my hand your poor f---, and see if you can spot the difference, like...

But we've done this already:

Lyssa wrote:
  Maybe when SHE can show she can DIFFERENTIATE between randian objectivity and Satyr's. I know she can see the similarities in her head (alone), but let her show she is CAPABLE of seeing some differences...

Do it.


My point is not to draw distinctions between Satyr and Rand,





My point is.

And she speaks of bringing it down to flesh and blood conflicts, where SHE REFUSES TO SITUATE DIFFERENCES... Look at her admitting to it.

But to do so would require her understanding of both people's positions, and she's afraid she might become "converted"
and all her accusations so far have would have been lies.

She WANTS Satyr to be Rand,,, just like the Xt. WANTS the other to be sinful and demonic Satan.

It's the typical J.-Xt. either/or, God/Satan...she's substituted the words for sujbective/saintly<>objective/evil






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IDIOTS. THERE"S LOTS OF EM.
I WISH THAT I COULD OPEN UP THEIR BRAIN AND PRESS THE STOP BUTTON.
THEY'RE ALL DUMMIES MAN THE SHIT ISN'T COOL
I SWEAR TO GOD, THEY'RE STUPID AS FUCK AND DIDN'T LISTEN IN SCHOOL
THEY'RE ALWAYS SO OBNOXIOUS,
WHEN THEY ARGUE ON THE INTERNET
BUT TRYING TO DEBATE WITH THEM IS HARMFUL LIKE A CIGARETTE.
YOU TRY TO OUTSMART THESE STUPID JERKS BUT YOU NEVER WIN
CUZ LATELY THEIR IDIOCY IS WORSE THAN IT'S EVER BEEN
YOU BETTER GET YOUR BAND-AIDS YOUR BASTARD
MY TONGUE IS LIKE A FAN-BLADE BUT FASTER
I'M KICKIN A DEVILISH MAN-MADE DISASTER
I PISS ON MY FINGERS THEN GIVIN YOU ALL A HANDSHAKE AFTER
FOR THINKIN IM JUST A PANCAKE RAPPER
AND I COME SMART WHEN I ARGUE OVER MAJOR ISSUES LIKE WAR
BUT ALL THESE STUPID IDIOTS KEEP MISUSING YOU'RE
LOOK. I DONT WANNA BE A BITTER, ARROGANT, AMERICAN, ELITIST
BUT I THINK YOU BETTER GO AND READ A BOOK.
R I P TO M C A IM MAKIN YOU ALL STUDY ENGLISH COMPREHENSION YOU AINT SLEEPIN TIL WE GET TO BROOK-LYN
LOOK FRIEND, I COULD UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE JUST A KID
BUT IF YOU'RE OLDER THAN 13 YEARS OLD YOU BETTER SEE THESE WORDS
AND KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS
THIS ONE IS A CONTRACTION, LIKE YOU,
APOSTROPHE, ARE, READY FOR ACTION
YOU'RE AT RISK WHEN THE GEM STAR SLASH YOUR SKIN
YOU'RE AN IDIOT LIKE KIM KARDASHIAN
THIS ONE'S YOUR. POSSESSIVE. YOUR'S
YOUR BEER, YOUR GUN, YOUR MOM'S A WHORE
IM TAKING IT KINDA EASY ON YA SPITTIN A COUPLE SAMPLES
FUCK IT THOUGH IM GONNA GIVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE
LOOK SEE I DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU INSOLENT IDIOTS
IN A MINUTE I'LL ADMINISTER VENOM; DEFINITIVE WISDOM
SO TAKE ANOTHER GLANCE AND GET A VISION TRY TO LISTEN
COMPREHEND AND YOU'LL NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED SUCH A SIMPLETON
BUT LOOK. THIS ONE BELONGS TO YOU.
AND THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ARE, IT'S TRUE!
SO THERE, FUCK GREED, FUCK SKINNY BAGS OF WEED,
AND FUCK YOU IF YOU'RE A FAN OF EITHER NICKLEBACK OR CREED!

quit being such an IDIOT
all you gotta do is use some proper grammar its easy
quit being such an imbecile
i hope to god your IQ is over 13

cuz you were in the 8th grade once
and even then your teacher got mad when you'd get this wrong
possessives and contractions are
apparently just something that you USED TO KNOW

Wow...

Among other things, this is a bit, well, hysterical. In fact, if I did not know that you are only one of Satyr's many creations here, I might be inclined to dial 911. Wink





Observe this coward; she posts her song on ILP, but censors my song on ILP.
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Did it touch too close to home she had to censor it? I think so...

And moron, the lyrics were in caps in the vid., I didn't put it in caps...

This is what like the 10th time she's been reduced to the dishonest cowardly slime she is?

I'm done with this "f----" troll... again...

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 23, 2015 5:16 pm

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Be careful cunt...if you stray, you will be back in the Dungeon from where you can declare victory, claim that you are feared...because releasing you has flooded this forum with too much quality commentary.
You are converting too may of my "kids" to your "mature" side, boy.
We need imbeciles, like you, around, to keep us in-line.
You add so much to our awareness.
You offered us so much in the short time of your release.

Okay, fine, back to the Dungeon it is then.

Again, Chimp Talk is booming. 879 posts and 7,391 views. All in less than 4 months.

Indeed, compare it to all the other threads in the Dungeon:
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It's beginning even to rival some of the popular threads in the agora.
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And most of them have been around a lot longer.

I know: Let's probe why that is.

And you can approach this on at least two levels:

1] in a lecture
2] in a huff and a puff

Then it's my turn.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 23, 2015 6:12 pm

As you wish.
Enjoy your fame and notoriety there.

Remember...it's all subjective so you win, if you say so.

Note to other:
notice the specimen's dependence on numbers, on quantities rather than qualities.
Note her dependence on others for support.
Notice how she thinks the numbers increase because of her substance, her formidable reasoning, her "arguments".

Now notice how she will use her Dungeon as a echo chamber to sing her own praises, imagining many others sharing in her tune.
What did I say about Nihilists?
What symptoms have I charted out to make them recognizable?

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyThu Aug 27, 2015 11:51 am

How much lower do we need to sink before we realize that it is we who are falling and not the ground that is rising?
Behold, now even the idol breaker is idolized, and then circumcised, to enter the kingdom of God from the back door - buggery at its finest.
Call it "love", or call Him "one", or "substance," or "order", He goes by many names all of which cry out for help.
Does the Modern man not see "spirit" in all things; is not all loving itself?

How many tricks will he come up with to escape the sight of himself: a feeble spirit cowering before the uncertain, begging for some help, some justification even for his unbearable pains?
What could be worth such a price?

The only connection to nature he can endure is the orgasm, which is no more than a reprieve, a momentary relief from the ceaseless sensation of existence; here hedonism becomes the Modern's Liberalism.
His scripture has been transformed to code, represented by the promissory note of money.
The priestly wafer and wine, the blood and body of the Christ, has also been reinvented.

With money the past is forgiven, and he erases self, as becoming unity, into a zero, from where he can reinvent his character, his identity, and then forget what he is, or was.
This is transformative liberation.
The ease with which he achieves his desired goal and has other support him in his rebirth - the magic of it - convinces him that everything can be baptized, and given symbol; with each new name a new world is born, tailored for the tastes, the whims, of each "individual".

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyFri Aug 28, 2015 7:10 am

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 12:31 am

In the end all they can say is "he is wrong", "he made a mistake", "he envies", "he hates", and rely on the distaste for his views, by the majority, to do the rest.
They have nothing to say about his views.
They cannot even repeat them.

Here are some easy dismissing words:
Nazi
Bigot
Racist
Sexist
Objectivist

The Modern Nihilists uses them, and others with the same emotional impact, regularly.
The emotional impact, of course, has been ingrained into their psyche, as automatic reaction to these words, over years of mind-controlling mechanisms.
The exploitation of human frailty, human existential anxiety, human insecurity, is how the brain is softened up, is prepared to be receptive for training, education, indoctrination.

They have no clue why, or how, they just feel bad, they feel something is wrong, when certain words are used.



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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 3:07 pm

I've been targeted with 'racist' multiple times.  Like the others on your list, there's no defense against the charge (and even if there were, such a defense would not be accepted, would not be heard).

Mostly recently: moved into a house across from folks with an aggressive, un-penned, dog. My single attempt to raise the subject with the owner ended in my being labled racist. Never mind that race was not part of my complaint.

A civil presentation of fact by me was countered effectively with hysteria, lies, and that ugly little word.

You can't reason with the unreasonable...all you can do is ignore them as you can and self-defend against them (and their dogs) as you must.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 3:26 pm

If you cannot dismiss appearances as being superficial, or only affecting the body, when it comes to humans, you are automatically a "racist", which implies violence, killing, aggression, hatred...

It's a Pavlovian brain-washing trick. Years of indoctrination, and you react automatically to certain triggering words.
Emotions, images of your training, words, pop into your mind, and you do not know how or why.
If pressured to justify your reaction you fall back on training, again - you repeat the lingo, the "arguments", the accusations, like a brain-dead zombie, and come up with a reason to end the conversation with a victory chant.
Usually nobody asks you to justify anything, since the majority are as brainwashed as you, so your automatic reactions are followed by a communal nodding of heads, and repeating of the script, as if all is self-evident.
The kind of behaviour you can expect to find in Churches, when surrounded by the lambs of Christ, when you challenge their God.


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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 3:47 pm

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Mostly recently: moved into a house across from folks with an aggressive, un-penned, dog. My single attempt to raise the subject with the owner ended in my being labled racist. Never mind that race was not part of my complaint.

Poison the owner.
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God damn it, I want to be released from the stupidity of ILP.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 5:38 pm

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God damn it, I want to be released from the stupidity of ILP.
Who's keeping you trapped there?

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Habit.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySun Aug 30, 2015 6:32 pm

Be mindful of your habits.

“Your beliefs become your thoughts,
Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny.”

-- Gandhi

I'd slightly rephrase it:

Thoughts become beliefs
Beliefs become words
Words become actions
Actions become habits
Habits become/define character
Character determines destiny

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 11:08 am

"Poison the owner"

Too extreme...I just (quietly) took care of the dog.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 2:54 pm

Henry Quirk wrote:
"Poison the owner"

Too extreme...I just (quietly) took care of the dog.

Maybe but it would raise quality of living probably, property value too, I guess.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 3:44 pm

"Maybe but it would raise quality of living probably, property value too, I guess."

HA!

No doubt, but it would also land me in the hoosgow for years and years.

I just didn't want my (at the time) seven year old to become a dog's chew toy.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 4:59 pm

Gotta make it look like a substance abuse overdose.

But, napping the dog and making him into a 'we gonna get ourselves a rescue'd dog' somewhere else or something like that was the first thing which came to my mind.

Anyway, I guess that 'you racist' dog owner, was into bling bling too.
ILP seems to be filled with self-declared bad-asses and pious amazons.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyMon Aug 31, 2015 5:11 pm

"Gotta make it look like a substance abuse overdose."

HA!

If that I could have.
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When a ship is flooding and slowly sinking, the last to abandon it are the rats.

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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptySat Sep 05, 2015 9:24 pm

I dont think Everyone can be wrong, esp. even when midgets on the other side say what we say abt. cAnus the Tyrant,,, no less than smears, mind you:


Smears wrote:
No matter what he says, you're just going to copy and paste your line about how everything is just a matter of opinion and you're going to says dasein a bunch of times, then you're going to call him an objectivist, then you're going to give off some smug, self satisfied comments and dismiss him while implying that you're better than him because you can admit you might be wrong, then you're going to say that something is ironic. You're a closed minded extremist, just like the people that you want to argue against, and so there just isn't really much that can be done when it comes to trying to have a conversation with you.

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Iamb, in the end this is how your participation comes off to me also. The undercurrent rage and superiority and, yes, despite your philosophy, your certainty.

Open objectivists can have discussions that are interesting, even if one disagrees with them on the issue in question or all of them. It is not a swamp saying it is not a swamp talking to one of them.

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Here I try to discuss issues of the law with someone who's too busy fighting demons.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyWed Sep 09, 2015 8:58 am

Dodecalogue of Decadence
I'm done dealing with the triple-D's: douche-bags, degenerates, and dimwits. 
If these basic questions are not all answered, in a rational concise, intelligible, serious, honest manner, then I will no longer be responding to them with any seriousness, once they've been identified as being a different variant of the same Nihilistic, Modern, decay.

We'll call these questions the test of their good faith - their intentions - and their quality of mind - their intelligence. 
 
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1- If sex evolved to reproduce a species, what does that make an individual who is into necrophilia, or into fucking prepubescent children, or animals, or members of the same sex, in relation to this evolved function?

1a- If gender is a human invention and not the application of sexual roles within social contexts, then the sexual type it is the social application of is also a human construct, and so the question is are animals also able to invent new utilities for their evolved organs, or is this the exclusive "right" of the human dasein? 

1b- Are organs and the human body a fashion accessory, able to adapt to any new trend that a human brain invents, or any delusion that offers him comfort, or pleasure,or comes to be popular, or is the product of a mutation?


1c- If organs can be used in whatever way the organism desires, does this automatically means that the utility chosen will be successful outside the forgiving premises of modern, nihilistic, human environments?


1d- Are organs modules; add-ons, of the self, and if so what is self; which organ(s) is the identifier of self?   



2- If appearances do not matter, then why did organism's evolve the ability to perceive and to distinguish differences? 

2a- If appearances are superficial, shallow, then does this also apply to everything, or only to humans?

2b- How would an enlightened "normal" civil man pick produce, in a market, if not by judging them using appearances?
Is he called upon to feel the spirit of the fruit, vegetable, to select it, and then feel a bit ashamed because of his bigotry? 

2c- If appearance does not indicate essence, then what does it indicate, what does it represent?
 

2d- If "essence" is not another word for nature, as the sum of all past manifesting as the apparent, then what is it? 

2e- Are all mutations that do not harm the "rights" of the other, or to not prevent him/her from dealing with his/her own mutations, automatically fit? 
Is their "fitness" now to be evaluated socially, memetically, culturally, economically, and in reference to a human idea(l), rather than genetically, naturally? 


2f- If mixing eventually results in "good" things, then why be able to select a mate, when you can simply fornicate with everyone,  randomly, and expect a positive result, eventually? 
If non-judgmental random copulation produces the desired results, eventually, then why be picky, why evolve this harsh, unjust, sexual discrimination that denies some access to the genetic pool; why have a choice at all? 


2g- Are social eugenics a continuance, or a more focused form of natural selection, if so, what are the social standards which guide these social eugenics, if they reject nature/past, or contradict natural processes? 



3- Does environment only affect body, and not brain; if so, how did intelligence evolve and why is it not ubiquitous?

3a - How does evolution apply to mind, psychology, brain, if it only affects the body, and, then, only superficially?
Is brain other than body, and is mind the manifestation of something other than brain, or the totality of organs we call an organism? 

3b- Is mind/spirit the thing-in-itself, the dasein, or is body a manifestation of this same dasein? 
Is what appears what is? 

3c- Does what exist appear (objective - reality - world) and is it not then interpreted (subjectivity) by the organism, and does not the organism survive or perish in accordance with the accuracy, quality, of said interpretation? 

3d- What is an environment, intruded upon by humans, and then affecting them instead of the environment intruded upon, to be called? 
Does man pollute himself with his own idealism, if it turns against the past/nature? 




4- How do species splinter off from a common ancestor?
Magic?
God?


4a- The process of genetic splintering involves isolation, environmental conditioning, and time - if this is not the case then what alternate narrative can be used to explain the multiplicity of species we experience daily?

4b- Does this splintering happen gradually, producing intermediate levels of diversion (mediating forms), or does it occur suddenly, immediately?  

4c- If appearance is not the manifestation of past then what is it, or if nature is not the sum of all past nurturing, then what is the word "nature" a reference to?

4d- How much of past matters, and how much is irrelevant before the present, the current, or how much nature does a lifetime of nurturing erase?
Who decides how much past is relevant and how much is not? 

4e- Is pretending that something does not matter the same as it actually not being relevant?
Is being trained to not see differences, or trained to feel ashamed of seeing them, the same as making those differences disappear? 
   




5- If there is no superior/inferior then what is being selected through natural selection? 

5a- If all is uniformly distributed, and differences are only physical and superficial, then what does evolution mean, and why does it occur? 

5b- How did man dominate other species if intelligence is constantly equally distributed within a population, and it emerges without any affect from environment?

5c- Is diversity an illusion, hiding oneness?
Why the trickery? Who is creating this illusion and why? 
Did our senses evolve to trick us?


5f- Does stress produce overcoming, and if not so, is it sheltering, comfort?    



6- If the only reason homosexuality is justifiable and "normal" the fact that it offers pleasure to the participants, then does this also apply to individuals who are similarly pleased and fulfilled by torture, rape, murder, abuse, sadism etc.?

6a- Is the idea that beauty is "relative", and "in the eye of the beholder", pleasing to the one lacking it, and is this why it is the "truth"?  

6b- Is pleasure the measure of all truths, and, if so, if the idea of a Christian God gives pleasure to someone, at any time, is this reason enough to believe that such an idea is also fact?
If the idea of Allah gives pleasure, is this also an indication of truth?
If cocaine makes me feel good, is cocaine a universal truth? 

6c- If all mutations cannot be evaluated in reference to the past, and how successful, or not, they were, then can all diversions from the standard of beauty, health, be called "normal", or expressions of individual whimsy?
Is a man who loves fat women suffering from a psychological dysfunction, or is he as healthy as the man who finds the beauty of a fertile, female attractive?
At what point does one begin to think something is the matter with the individual, and not with nature?
Can one begin with the individual who prefers fornicating with cows, instead of human females, or drinks alcohol more than water, or begins cutting himself?
How would the mental health of a human be evaluated if not in reference to nature/past?    

6d- Is a society also prone to mental illness, or is this only something an individuals suffers from; is it possible for an entire society, system, to be sick? 
How would you know it? What standard would one use to diagnose the health of an entire society, if not nature which is independent of all human socioeconomic systems? 
Would you use it - its own moral and internal structures - to diagnose it, and is this not like using a schizophrenic's delusions to evaluate his mental health? 




7- Is judgment a reference to an objective, a projected idea(l), in relation to which it receives value, and if not then what is it? 


7a- Are all idea(l)s equally valid; do they have the same quality? 

7b- If judgment, an evaluation, is not to be measured against the past (nature), then what other means of evaluating its quality, would apply?
Fetishism?
Fashion?
Popularity?
Pleasure?  
Whimsy?
Personal taste founded on mutations and manmade conditioning (education, training, memetic indoctrination, propaganda manipulating human emotions, primarily that of fear? 

7c- If all idea(l)s are equal, then is the only way of evaluating them how the majority is affected by them?

7d- Is nature democratic, fair, populist, governed by human moral, political, socioeconomic, and ethical standards which change over time in accordance with human interventions, and/or human socioeconomic systems?

7e- Does world mean human world, society/culture = meme, or is the human world a part of the world?

7f- Does nature, past, change every time man changes his mind, or decides upon a new form of socioeconomic organization, or a new ethical code?
Does this inter-subjective, self-referential, bubble, have any affect on the world beyond its premises?  

7g- Does past (nature) cease to apply every time man changes his mind, or the methods he uses to deal with his existence, or with his fellow humans, or with the circumstances his own intervention produced? 

7h- How is an idea(l) to be judged? 
By its intended objective, or by its actual products in the present and in the past? 


7i- Does world change to accommodate man, or does man change to accommodate world? 
If, and when, man intervenes upon world, does the positive outweigh the negative collateral effects? 
How much of contradicting nature can humanity endure?   



8- What is morality if not a code of conduct evolved within social organisms to produce harmony and cooperative advantages (synergy)?

8a- Is morality independent from human, or organic, needs?

8b- Are there behaviors, activities, which are innately, universally, absolutely, "bad/evil", or "good", or do all choices, actions, behaviors, become moral and/or immoral in reference to a communal rule, and in relation to a common goal, objective, idea(l)? 


8c- Do morals have any meaning outside social groups, even if those of other species? 



9- Does gene produce meme, or does meme produce gene? 

9a- What comes first, human ideals, human socioeconomic organizations, human morals, or human beings, or life itself?

9b- Is gender invented by man, or is the elimination of the sexual roles gender represents, invented by man? 

9c- Does race precede human beings, or is it a human construct, and if so how would one imagine a splintering off of different species, from the human species, without intermediate forms, such as what are represented by races? 

9d- Does recognition of sameness, follow the establishment of difference, as in the emergence of a division of organism to perceive and to then recognize similarities? 

9e- If the female organism evolves the physical tools, organs, to successfully carry out her sexual role, then why would she not also evolve the mind, and the psychological tools for exactly the same reason? 




10- Do authorities reflect/represent the socioeconomic dynamics that produced them? 

10a- In a world where science depends on funding, how independent is scientific inquiry? 

10b- If men are all humans, and humans can be scientists, then do they not all suffer from the same emotional, existential, biological, limits, and do not these limits manifest as prejudices, mythologies? 

10c- Are not some starting scientific propositions apriori prejudices based on human biological functions, such as the on/off cellular function resulting in dualism, and binary logic, eventually resulting in mathematical/geometrical certainty?  

10d- Do the sciences deal with approximation, or with absolutes? 
Do they deal with theory, or with truths? 

10e- Is the paradox "there are absolutely no absolutes", or "truth is there is no truth", not founded on a linguistic construct, reflecting a noetic abstraction which, in turn, is based on how the human brain can think? 
In this case, would not the absurdity of an absolute "truth", have to be challenged by a negating absolute?
Is not the sentence: "all bachelors are not married" not a truism founded on the starting proposition of the human construct of marriage, in relation to which being a "bachelor" has meaning; does marriage make any sense outside human constructs?    

10f- When the socioeconomic costs of challenging "sacred" socioeconomic truths are present, how many would dare challenge them, and at what cost?

10g- Is the ubiquitous usage of established techniques/technologies, producing parity, or simply compensating for natural disparity? 
  




11- Is conflict good or bad, keeping in mind that all progress, all evolution, is dependent on conflict, or competition, or victors and losers?  

11a- What, if not conflict, agon, is the driving engine of natural selection, and Evolution Theory? 

11b- Is there such a state as absolute peace, contentment, happiness, absolute gratification, or are these words describing degrees of satiation, and appreciation of stress, in reference to the organism's strength, vitality, health? 

11c- Would not the end of stress, conflict, agon not be a state of narcosis, or atrophying, if such a thing were even attainable?
What happens to muscle, and bone, when it is not stressed for a long period of time? 

11d- Is life supposed to be just, and if so how would you define this word that has no references outside human brains?
 




12- Is language a tool for evaluating, judging, representing the world, or is it a magical force that creates world, simply by naming it? 

12a- What came first, activity, as Goethe proposed, or the word, as the Christian Jews propose?
If it was the word then whose word above all others? 

12b- Do words refer to (inter)activities, phenomena, or do they construct them? 

12c- What should we call words that have no reference point outside human brains, even if these brains are part of the majority? 

12d- If words are tools, then did they evolve to help man survive the world, adapt to it, or did they evolve to escape the world, create a linguistic shell for him to hide within? 

12e- Are words symbols of mental constructs, abstractions, noumena, and if so is the quality of said abstractions to be determined by how many reference points outside the brain these abstractions have, or will the standard of judging their quality be how they make us feel, how well they satisfy our idealistic motives? 

12f- If the word "beauty" has no reference to order, to symmetry, outside the brain, to fitness, to proportionality, in relation to evolved sexual methods, then how can it be defined?
If it is "in the eye of the beholder" then would it not also be in the "tongue of the taster" if he would have a taste for feces rather than meats and vegetables? 
Would we not seek the reason why such an individual exhibited such a taste, and would we not try to figure out what mutation diverted him from the norm and from what nutrition, in relation to human biology, was meant to do? 
Then, noise is also music, since it is also in the "ear of the beholder", and it has no reference to symmetry, harmony, ordered sound; and so would not everything lose meaning, by becoming meaningful, like the value of a woman's love loses value when it is given to all?  



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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyWed Sep 09, 2015 11:28 am

Subsections 7F and 5B paragraphs 3 and 4 conflict with subsections 11C and 9G in articles 8 and 10, paragraphs 1-6. Please review your work.
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PostSubject: Re: Forums Forums - Page 20 EmptyWed Sep 09, 2015 11:42 am

As usual, you are lost....9g?
Tells me you are posturing and acting smart. 

Typical American douche-bag. 


He uses the same vagueness to avoid being seen, whereas at other times he flaunts, he displays, he desperately begs for attention.  
Like here, when he alludes to a contradiction, and do not say what it is.


It's the same methods his fellow Americans, cAnus and shit-Stain, regularly use: allusion, insinuation, self-flattery, hinting at knowledge/understanding which is never clarified, never revealed. 
A national pastime - a trait of culture of no culture, and anti-intellectual cynical bullshit. 
They insinuate understanding and superiority but never reveal it.
They simply state it, as a matter of fact, like when Ziiit and cAnus declare me being "thumped" and/or "mauled".


They can't help themselves...it's all relative.
It''s how they think they can hide from the past, each for different reasons.  


It's a way of making an impression, of impressing, of seeding the brain of the onlooker with the possibility, which does not have to be actual.  
They trash-talk, and declare an error, but never bring it to light. 
This creates the possibility, which sticks in the mind as an after-effect. 
It's part of the whigger, gangsta, hustler, game - the cRapper dialogue: me-me, I am great, look at me, I fuck bitches and they love it, see my car and my hos bounce, my trinkets sparkle...hear me speak, and if you respond I've already won.


Allow me to adjust my testicles. 
Ah, that's better. 
I look forward to enjoying this "genius" at work.
Alas, I already know what to expect.
It wont be long before he bores me, as he did before.


I think I'll use the above as my cut-paste reply to everything this version of American decay posts. 
It will prevent the wasting of time.

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I meant to say section G9, and if there isn't such a section I think there should be.
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Typical American douche-bag. 

He uses the same vagueness to avoid being seen, whereas at other times he flaunts, he displays, he desperately begs for attention.  
Like when he alludes to a contradiction, and error, and does not say what it is.

It's the same methods his fellow Americans, cAnus and shit-Stain, regularly use: allusion, insinuation, self-flattery, hinting at knowledge/understanding which is never delivered, referencing obscure knowledge, deferring to impressive sources seeking gang cred, greatness by association, giving out homework, as if the information has been absorbed by them. 


A national pastime - a trait of culture of no culture, and anti-intellectual cynical bullshit. 
They simply state it, as a matter of fact, like when Ziiit and cAnus declare me being "thumped" and/or "mauled". 

They can't help themselves...it's all relative.
It's how they think they can hide from the past, and the present, each for different reasons.  

It's a way of making an impression, of impressing, of seeding the brain of the onlooker with the possibility, which does not have to be actual.  
They trash-talk, and declare an error, but never bring it to light. 
This creates the possibility, which sticks in the mind as an after-effect. 
It's part of the whigger, gangsta, hustler, game - the cRapper dialogue: me-me, I am great, look at me, I fuck bitches and they love it, see my car and my hos bounce, my trinkets sparkle...hear me speak, and if you respond I've already won, because we was noticed.
Like when he dropped his pants in public, or jerked off intentionally for those girls to see him, or when....wont get into the rest. 
It's part of cRap battles, street hustler, mentality.


Allow me to adjust my testicles. 
Ah, that's better. 
I look forward to enjoying this "genius" at work.
Alas, I already know what to expect.
He will drop his trousers, and show us what he thinks (wishes) are impressive instruments of penetration - threatening us with a "proper fucking". 
afro
His intended audience are the shorties. 
He's desperate for that kind of affection. 

It wont be long before he bores me, as he did before.


He won before he even got here. 

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The imbecile [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] is running a philosophy forum.

He still does not know what genes are, nor does this idiot, who is reflected in the moderation he chose, cannot understand how nature is the sum of all nurturing.

To train, in a generation, or two, individuals to go against their genetic inclinations, to pretend, to deny, to reject, is what memes do, particularly Nihilistic memes.
The irony of those relying on quantities, then demising the obvious quantitative difference between centuries, upon centuries, of nurturing, and environmental conditioning, to emphasize a lifetime of individual education/training/nurturing.

As if training a dog to behave in a way the master wants, or training a chimpanzee to smoke cigars and use utensils to eat its banana, constitutes a shift in its nature - in its inherited behavioral dispositions and inherited genetic limitations: its pattern in other words.

This imbecile, representing the worse of the worse in modernity - especially the popular Liberal, humanitarian kind - considers himself the right person to run a forum dedicated to philosophy, in theory.
In the process he only creates a microcosm of the usual macrocosm we all know in the west, and we have defined here on KT as Modernity.
Who will you find there/
The usual specimens of modern, nihilism in their multiple variations, using the typical methods, obsessed with the same subjects, referring/deferring to the same authorities, and demanding the same platitudes, the same fake civility and respect characterizing everyday modern life.


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A brilliant [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] by the one who turned on me, for no serious reason.

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The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] little Ziiit wants to pass on, without declaring it and dancing about like his compatriots (he is barely controlling himself), is that he is getting laid.
The only thing that could account for his dismal, laid back, brilliance is the fact that even a bum. living in his car, can, in this world get laid...and this saves the world from his other desires.
The bonobo make love not war, based on the absence of threats, is what this baboon offers as the salvation of mankind.

Sure, there's an identity war going on, but who cares - find a whore to suck your dick, jerk off in a parking lot, chill man, just reeeeeelax!

Nietzsche having Salome suck his cock could have saved us from all his insights and we could have remained in the arms of Spinoza, and his Deus - the substance of luv.
If only we could have avoided the French Revolution with an orgy, and the American Civil War could have been settled with a wife-swap.
If only we could all be that simple...like a women.

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The [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] philosophical issues, delivered with that proper philosophical attitude of cynical detachment.

I assume that the participants just finishes fucking, and are relaxed, clear minded, able to avoid sex, by talking about appearances, and how sex is unimportant when it comes to love - the love of ...philosophy.
Maybe some have just swallowed a load of love juice, and it is fermenting in their bellies, mixing with last nights foie gras; fumes coming up to be burped as witty remarks.

The satiated make for brilliant dinner companions.  
It's all about the aftertaste.
Butter-knives ready to be used...

When one pet is replaced with another, it has to be house-broken, properly trained.

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