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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyWed Nov 12, 2014 11:57 am

Nice stems.
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What are "stems," Phoneutria?

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catcalls vs. tauntings...

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Equal rights are suspended when reality comes into play.
Then it's about crying, and playing the innocent victim.

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lol you beat me to it, I was gonna post that. There's a certain level of physical rowdiness that is accepted as normal even before the "epic" slap, and even after the slap everyone still seems to be having fun with the situation (as long as they have safe enough distance ). Like, there wasn't much to "breach" in the first place so when she got slapped it just upped the level of fun... Imagine a scenario, a train full of white people and a couple are arguing and then the woman slaps the man(breaking what was probably silence ), how serious the vibe would become, and how watchful everyone would be for his next move.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyThu Nov 13, 2014 8:35 pm

Its everyday, but still unbelievable.

And you can almost see how youtube too is affecting society - rather than the other way,,, just to make viral videos, they conduct "social experiments" [some of them scripted to preferred conclusions],, and gradually, this play is going to spread into daily life and you are not going to be sure of any encounter...

We're guinea pigs for reactions...

She's taunting over someone's jacket in public... did she not know there was a good chance she was asking for it?

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Supra-Aryanist wrote:
What are "stems," Phoneutria?

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A cunt will tell you about how "appearances do not matter" ...and how "penis size is, completely, irrelevant"...and how "she is happy with what she's got"...and how "looks are superficial"...and all the bullshit catch-phrases dominating Modern discourse, on the side of conventionality, but if you are truly smart, and brave, and able to endure, you will see right through this crap - despite yourself.  

She will try to "correct" you and bring you back to the current norms, which she will call "bringing, you, down to earth", or "vermin hunting", or "morality", or "what is right", or whatever crap cunts use, in our time, to appear more than what they are...but, if you are truly brave, and confident in your own abilities, able to face the costs of both cost and benefit, ready to face the consequences, of your errors or, in this age, of your clarity, then do not listen.

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Vermin hunting... that's a very specific phrase... do you have someone specific in mind, dear, or are you speaking generally again?
If you do have someone specific in mind, I'd love to see you quote me on "appearances don't matter", "penis size does not matter" or "looks are superficial".
Dishonest prick.
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Ohhh, boy.

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Vermin hunting... that's a very specific phrase... do you have someone specific in mind, dear, or are you speaking generally again?
If you do have someone specific in mind, I'd love to see you quote me on "appearances don't matter", "penis size does not matter" or "looks are superficial".
Dishonest prick.

No, sweets...I inseminate, I fertilize, and you go off hunting to satisfy that gaping wound in you.
Gestate and give birth to my offspring.
I'll let you feel like it's you....all  you, and nobody else.
As if it's about what pleases you.
Remain confident that pleasure is your end.
Such an ego, dear....delicious.  

You are doing well, so far.

Cock, dear, in the memetic sphere, is more than a physical appendage - it's an idea(l).

I've already penetrated you...and I love the spirit that will not consider this a submission, on your part.
You keep on engaging those turds, as you have been....the rest need not concern you.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 1:18 pm

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Vermin hunting... that's a very specific phrase... do you have someone specific in mind, dear, or are you speaking generally again?
If you do have someone specific in mind, I'd love to see you quote me on "appearances don't matter", "penis size does not matter" or "looks are superficial".
Dishonest prick.

No, sweets...I inseminate, I fertilize, and you go off hunting to satisfy that gaping wound in you.
Gestate and give birth to my offspring.
I'll let you feel like it's you....all  you, and nobody else.
As if it's about what pleases you.
Remain confident that pleasure is your end.
Such an ego, dear....delicious.  

You are doing well, so far.

Cock, dear, in the memetic sphere, is more than a physical appendage - it's an idea(l).

I've already penetrated you...and I love the spirit that will not consider this a submission, on your part.
You keep on engaging those turds, as you have been....the rest need not concern you.
Yesss. Undeniably a powerful and irreproachable spirit.


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Then you will appreciate the art of seducing, and impregnating, such a spirit, without making it, too, obvious...or too physical.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 1:29 pm

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Satyr wrote:
I love the spirit that will not consider this a submission, on your part.


Yesss. Undeniably a powerful and irreproachable spirit.


Isnt the resisting female always attractive? Dialectics comes later to re-define.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 2:00 pm

Resisting female is equivalent to an aloof, indifferent, male.

It indicates superiority.  

What is superior has more options in relation to what is beneath it.
It is aloof to the particular one, because it has a multiplicity to choose from.

Man, submits to the particular female, in regard to his mortality, his temporal limits, having to prove himself worthy....female considers this a right, her privilege, and so chooses man as if she were a representative of time/space, the world itself.
His need is overt.
The female can pretend, and be skeptical and cynical....because her need is covert.

Satyr sees through all.
Neither man, nor beast, completely.

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Satyr wrote:
phoneutria wrote:
Vermin hunting... that's a very specific phrase... do you have someone specific in mind, dear, or are you speaking generally again?
If you do have someone specific in mind, I'd love to see you quote me on "appearances don't matter", "penis size does not matter" or "looks are superficial".
Dishonest prick.

No, sweets...I inseminate, I fertilize, and you go off hunting to satisfy that gaping wound in you.
Gestate and give birth to my offspring.
I'll let you feel like it's you....all  you, and nobody else.
As if it's about what pleases you.
Remain confident that pleasure is your end.
Such an ego, dear....delicious.  

You are doing well, so far.

Cock, dear, in the memetic sphere, is more than a physical appendage - it's an idea(l).

I've already penetrated you...and I love the spirit that will not consider this a submission, on your part.
You keep on engaging those turds, as you have been....the rest need not concern you.

You misjudge me grossly, throw insults that fit me like a horseshoe would fit a ballerina, and then assume that wherever our opinions meet it is because you've somehow put them in me.
You foolish oaf. Get over yourself.
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Oh, dear...what tricks you've learned.

I tell you, for the umpteenth time, you underestimate me if the lies you post publicly correspond to your real evaluations.
Your actions say otherwise.
But I'll play along with your feminine games...if I am not bored by them.

But, then again, I prefer that you do underestimate me....having clear knowledge of you, and what you are, dear.
You hunt vermin, seeing one in me?
I want you to.  
You, still do not get it.

Say hi to the Pollack, who is not of our "league".

Ha!!!
Are you for real?
You use that here, with me, as if I did not already know?
Who, the fuck, are you talking to?
Me?

The moment you stop underestimating me, to preserve your ego, and the bullshit you find valuable, is the moment we might have an honest relationship.
If not...fuck off, you piece of cynical, needy, hypocritical, shit.
You are already serving me...on ILP.
A small, insignificant, part of the real, as you are.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 14 EmptyFri Nov 14, 2014 2:28 pm

Do you think this is a joke, you cynical cunt?

You think this is part of your sheltered, pretentious crap...the type you've learned is effective amongst the turds you consider your own?
Really?
You are being honest here?
You truly think that your short, skinny ass, with that humble sweet voice of yours, and that fairy face, will have an affect on me?
Really?

The internet is a big joke, you imbecile.
It is, now, mirroring, the "real" world, which is really a fraud.
Like you.

You think your gimmicks can trick me...or that my age is what makes me immune to your simplicity, and you stupid little lies?
I was aware at 20, you idiot.
You were a nobody to me at that age.
I want more, than tits and ass, and that pretense of vulnerable sweetness, you fake cunt.

Vermin?
Look in the fuckin' mirror, dear.
I see one.

Spider?
The dangerous kind?
Really?
Sheesh....
Call the bovine, dear, to write you a poem, or a story from his drunken days amongst the trees, to entertain you, and for you to condescend to.

Who, the fuck, do you think I am?

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I was going to start my own thread on this topic, but unsurprisingly one already exists and I don't like to duplicate.

Feminism today is the result of a mistaken interpretation of traditional human behaviour.

There exists power imbalance in any species with conviction and differing levels of ability. The proposition behind Feminism is that any power imbalance involving both male and female parties, where the female party emerges less dominant, is due to male privilege ingrained in an arbitrarily patriarchical society.
However the feminist is lazily consequentialist and superficial to take this position.

I purport what I deem to be a superior explanation behind such a circumstantial power imbalance as posited above. Males are pressured by one another, first by hormonal compulsion and secondly by traditional influence, to appear invulnerable or at least sufficiently powerful/dominant/capable. The male morality is hormonally dictated as "I am of the highest rank or at least not of the lowest", complete with all the competitivity that this negativity entails - to be driven at base by a refusal to be something, an insistance to not be something. Such negativity begets a valuable hostility, that may amount to great achievement when combined with great ability - and along with success in this light, almost disappears!

The female morality lacks this severity, and it is perfectly socially acceptable to appear vulnerable to the point where the submissive is even permitted to be attractive. The female has full reign and freedom in this regard to be whatever she feels like. The male denies himself any such luxury and insists upon himself that he be limited to certain standards - and society has grown around this behaviour to insist on such an imperative, even if the male himself defies his nature and refuses his fate.

Yet Feminism suggests that the freedom is in the male court, and not in the female court.
It demands both the freedom and the equal power.
It would say that the female is the victim of a lack of freedom to achieve superior power, which is of course a complete confusion of the whole process!

Herein lies the reason why Feminism is ridiculed - it is undeserved. Artificial. You cannot simply demand power by stamping your feet, even if you call your tantrum "Deconstructionism". The unsightly show presented thenceforth does not earn power, and this is why Feminists are incessantly bullied - even to extremes. You can have equal power if you pay the price, but only if you pay the price.

The only way around this is if we delay our instincts and allow due diligence. This is highly compatible with the use of reason and the rejection of superficial prejudice. But if one remains wanting after such civilised generosity and still fails to impress, then you shall not pass into the higher ranks of dominance and power.

I would be a Feminist if it evaluated itself and changed its name to something more consistent with what it should be about: giving the benefit of the doubt first, and belaying judgment. Women should absolutely be allowed trial just as much as men.
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If by serving you, you mean letting your little website pick up the crumbs that fall off the table I've set for myself, due to the mere coincidence that I post here and therefore those who I engage might come here to search for me, knock yourself out. On the house.
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Would only a feminist propose that a woman could be a philosopher?

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If by serving you, you mean letting your little website pick up the crumbs that fall off the table I've set for myself, due to the mere coincidence that I post here and therefore those who I engage might come here to search for me, knock yourself out. On the house.
No, dear.
I already know of your hypocritically based ego.

I only want you to come here, be inseminated, and then go about your usual routines.
Your conscious participation is not a requirement.
Your actions are.

You think this is only about me, you idiot.
You think I want to fuck you, or seduce you physically.
You do not interest me on that level.
But I know boys are seduced on that level...and so you are the perfect vehicle for me, and for what my real motives are.
You, as an individual, have a zero effect on me...you as a conduit, in this fucked up world, are a useful tool.

Now, I already know you have a son...which makes you more receptive to my masculine message.
And I know that if you didn't you would be another cunt out there.

I also know that you are nowhere close to being a Lyssa...remember Lyssa, you dumb cunt, is Lisa from Toronto, like you were convinced, by your compadre, originally.
Never doubt yourself, and your judgments, you stupid cunt.
You have zero knowledge of Lyssa, and I like it that way, because she too is MY vehicle...only she knows it, likes it, and wants it.

I want you to remain exactly as you are.

Dear...you think I chose Hannibal Lecter, as my pop-culture icon, accidentally?

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Would only a feminist propose that a woman could be a philosopher?

Can you offer us an example of a female philosopher that revolutionized human understanding?
One will do.

Why, is it that what dumb cunts, like feminists, matter, in what they think or do?

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Would only a feminist propose that a woman could be a philosopher?

Philosophy is violence.

Female violence in practice tends to be irrational and imprecise. How can such an approach yield a logical and stringent dissection of abstract thought?

Is there a possible world wherein a philosopher happened to be female? Swans were all white until we went to Australia.

The lazy may also propose that a woman could be a philosopher, but then feminists are lazy. Empiricists might propose such a thing. I am quite partial to Realist Empiricism.
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Satyr wrote:
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Would only a feminist propose that a woman could be a philosopher?

Can you offer us an example of a female philosopher that revolutionized human understanding?
One will do.

Why, is it that what dumb cunts, like feminists, matter, in what they think or do?

If truth is a woman maybe woman can't interpret themselves with the same passion as man, despite some woman being incredibly sharp and having great memories. Of course, I'm still not sure what a philosopher is. I don't understand your second question.

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Why, is it that what dumb cunts, like feminists, matter, in what they think or do?

I don't understand your second question.

I believe he re-wrote his initial response and accidentally left the word "what" in his sentence. I.e. "Why is it that feminists matter?"

They matter in as far as they have exposure through popular media, due to the lazy latching onto their fallacious facade of knowledge and intelligence.

Women have plenty of passion, but it is not yet suited for philosophy.
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If truth is a woman maybe woman can't interpret themselves with the same passion as man, despite some woman being incredibly sharp and having great memories.  Of course, I'm still not sure what a philosopher is.  I don't understand your second question.

Is it not that feminists are female, and have a cunt, and womb - a potential, a possibility - which makes them relevant to males?

Philosophy is not about knowing, and memory, only.
It is about perceiving patterns in the data.
Knowledge is raw data....valueless unless you understand...you find patterns.
To be educated, and to repeat info, is easy...every imbecile can do it.
All that is required is an average mind.

Patterns are judged by how they refer to phenomena, and how they apply in space/time.
This determines their quality, their "value".
Time...is what value is measured by.

Not declarations of self-worth, not bullshit about value determining existence, not reducing value to code to words and numbers and make it into a commodity and consumer item all can purchase....and so on.

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Philosophy is ... about perceiving patterns in the data.

Females, even Feminists, can have high IQs, which is all about pattern recognition.

The real question, already answered in the very text to which "perpetualburn" alludes, is what would a woman do with truth?

Truth is for not only dominance but Autocracy. What woman aspires to be a Totalitarian dictator with absolute power and control over all things?
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Philosophy is not about knowing, and memory, only.
It is about perceiving patterns in the data.

Well, knowing would come about from how patterns are perceived and this probably a big difference between men and women.

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