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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptySun Jun 28, 2015 10:43 am

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" feelings for women are considered effeminate while feelings for another man are considered masculine "

Sounds like the PUAs and overall parts of the manosphere in the West.
But at the same time I find the manosphere to be reacting to feminism and modern western society. It's not the official narrative - that one has been feminism for many decades by now.

Feminism a hundred years ago was already about integrating women and equalizing them into a biologically unhealthy society. Making them into social constructs detached from their nature.

If someone hates himself then he wants to escape what he is. Escape the past, deny it.
Feminism is rooted in such a mindset and if you read up on the history it has always been filled with those who felt inadequate compared to others in their biological qualities. Driven by the need for others to evaluate and value them and thus compelled to change the rules of society.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptySun Jun 28, 2015 2:11 pm

The paragon of "masculinity" for neo-traditionalists as it were confused about their manliness (an entire movement has taken course here) is a self-professed homosexual.
As far as I understand there are two types of homosexuals: 1) the masculine, which comprises of the majority, but are more elusive about it sexually and publicly and 2) the feminine, fairy type, which comprises of the minority, but are more sexually outspoken about.
The former as the penetrating, while the latter as the penetrated.
In this relation, it is sometimes asserted that the Third Reich was homosexual of the former type.
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Though there may have been women who felt inadequate but their freedom has always been curbed away by pathological society.

I don't see a society to be pathological simply because it seeks to restrict certain behaviors/freedoms.
To not restrict is certain death for any society and that restricting includes sexuality, especially that.

And as for feeling inadequate, that depends on society. If having children is seen as a sign of health and status then being an infertile or psychologically unfeminine woman can make for strong feelings of inadequacy, I imagine.
Of course, if society tells you that no matter how you look or what you do, you are always doing good and even more so, you are potentially always oppressed, then that's all in favor of pushing feelings of inadequacy under the rug or finding some oppressor to blame for undesired feelings. Easy solutions.

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Though aggressive feminism was needed to break social engineering.

You mean to increasingly monopolize the engineering ideals.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptySun Jun 28, 2015 6:30 pm

"Romeo and Juliet: Mercutio’s Misogyny"

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptySun Jun 28, 2015 6:33 pm

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A masculine man when he meets woman personally, secretively, he meets her as a lover.

Now, a lover, cannot be converted into war machine. This is what politician and religious leaders don't want. Their stronghold of power falls.

People in love don't have any drive to go war?
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyMon Jun 29, 2015 12:17 pm

How's this for engineering?



Or this..

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/05/19/oculus-rift-will-be-open-to-virtual-reality-porn

Nice combination. More fuel for the fire.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 14, 2015 6:59 pm

There are a bunch of these type of ads: 'plug that empty, needy hole inside you with our brand's products. We value you, we care for you. Reproduce our message with a new-found confidence. Break the mould, this can be your purpose. You are empowered, you are strong.'





This one is my personal favourite. Exploiting female needs whilst denying their existence and relevance. Utter hypocrisy appealing to shallow narcissistic personalities.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 14, 2015 7:34 pm

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This one is my personal favourite. Exploiting female needs whilst denying their existence and relevance. Utter hypocrisy appealing to shallow narcissistic personalities.


''We have all come face to face with doubt, eye to eye with uncertainty.., but today there is no time for maybe's; so let's put our best face forward.., cover-up nothing and show-off everything''
''We won't apologize for being more, for being beautiful...,''

That is the most hypocritical emanicpating video I have seen in a while. 'We are not ugly, we are a little insecure sometimes, so here - a means to emancipate yourselves from judgements *puts on make-up as if a new face has been born*; see, now we are beautiful and emancipated from judgements!'

Telling them that they are not ugly yet selling them the products covering their sensitive - insecure - marks, accentuating the best, covering the worst.
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Intended for negro-comedy; but quite interesting actually.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 7:55 pm

Now filthy cucks are pushing their agenda under the guise of Feminism.

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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 8:55 pm

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At least where the hermeneutics of relationships are embodied, it's an either one has to want to devour the heart of the other or not: any corroborated and indicative suspicion within the economy of chance gain or chance loss confers the presentiment for disinterest or unthreading of the filament.
From here, recasting the need is rendered obsolete.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 9:20 pm

Supra-Aryanist wrote:
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At least where the hermeneutics of relationships are embodied, it's an either one has to want to devour the heart of the other or not: any corroborated and indicative suspicion within the economy of chance gain or chance loss confers the presentiment for disinterest or unthreading of the filament.
From here, recasting the need is rendered obsolete.

Ha!

And this guy, Supra-Aryanist, called me a " pretentious sancho ".

Lmao!

Oh, how the irony is lost on him.

On a separate note:

While I dislike modern feminism to a large degree, due to its focus on many trivial issues, I find most feminists, at least the ones I've met, to be interesting and a pleasure to converse with; many of them are well-educated and know about philosophy.
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I guess so, because I have little idea what you're talking about.
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I guess so, because I have little idea what you're talking about.

It seems so...forced...

My intuition is f-cking uncanny, Supra.

Nothing wrong with using sophisticated words; I do it myself.

But, as they say: " Nothing in excess ".
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 10:08 pm

They're just concentrated words to express and stylize the arrangement of thoughts.

Btw, your intuition needs calibrating as I wrote that in the duration it took to type it out on my cell for a FB reply, which is fast especially for a neurotic.
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Supra-Aryanist wrote:
They're just concentrated words to express and stylize the arrangement of thoughts.

Btw, your intuition needs calibrating as I wrote that in the duration it took to type it out on my cell for a FB reply, which is fast especially for a neurotic.

It's not that you don't understand what the words mean; you are using them in the correct context. But the average Joe probably won't be able to digest your posts.

Are you trying to be vague, so only the higher-ones are in the inner-circle?

Like how N. was intentionally ambiguous and vague?
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 12:25 pm

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Supra-Aryanist wrote:
I guess so, because I have little idea what you're talking about.

It seems so...forced...


And it does not look forced when you try to write about the subject matter which others, like Satyr or Sloterdijk, write about? Except that you do not understand and it seems a summery of what they wrote, like on the back of a book, without being able to use the words in different context, connections to other processes and experiences.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 3:52 pm

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It's not that you don't understand what the words mean; you are using them in the correct context. But the average Joe probably won't be able to digest your posts.

Are you trying to be vague, so only the higher-ones are in the inner-circle?

Like how N. was intentionally ambiguous and vague?

Writing for me is a creative or artistic modality. It's about by way of satisfying my needs and have-tos. To be able to concretely interpret myself and life processes is developed through the lens and prisms of words and which their underlying intercommunication portray.
The falter here is that when words become the focal point instead of a complement it can be at the cost of thought sequencing and order.

Apropos of my style: it comes to form from a integrative composite of plenitude variability; that is, whatever elicits inspiration and impetus, my own noetic capabilities and and limitations, in accordance with my nature and personality.
The will to express, that is, discpline reciprocally concerted with intellect, does require force, but the act of expression itself has to be fluid for coherence and creativity.
I like to leave an intentional and directional placement of room for intepretation, questioning, and further assessment and explanation. In this way, others in turn can posit theirs and reveal angles therein unseen.
It is evinced from the paltry amount of reponses I get wherever is that either or both my style and observations, theories, etc., aren't very influencial or penetrate the attention and interests of others.
Sure, it can be that others don't understand sometimes or mosts times, but it can also be that my understanding doesn't have enough depth.
I guess it is salient to remain resolute and have the flexibility for retrospection, reapproach, and recast.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 4:04 pm

Lmao ^^^

No further questions, your Honor...
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Funny times.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 4:14 pm

Supra-Aryanist wrote:

Writing for me is a creative or artistic modality. It's about by way of satisfying my needs and have-tos. To be able to concretely interpret myself and life processes is developed through the lens and prisms of words and which their underlying intercommunication portray.
The falter here is that when words become the focal point instead of a complement it can be at the cost of thought sequencing and order.

Apropos of my style: it comes to form from a integrative composite of plenitude variability; that is, whatever elicits inspiration and impetus, my own noetic capabilities and and limitations, in accordance with my nature and personality.
The will to express, that is, discpline reciprocally concerted with intellect, does require force, but the act of expression itself has to be fluid for coherence and creativity.
I like to leave an intentional and directional placement of room for intepretation, questioning, and further assessment and explanation. In this way, others in turn can posit theirs and reveal angles therein unseen.
It is evinced from the paltry amount of reponses I get wherever is that either or both my style and observations, theories, etc., aren't very influencial or penetrate the attention and interests of others.
Sure, it can be that others don't understand sometimes or mosts times, but it can also be that my understanding doesn't have enough depth.
I guess it is salient to remain resolute and have the flexibility for retrospection, reapproach, and recast.

I believe that there is a misunderstanding and perception problem with some of the readers of your posts. Because your words are in a specific and very purposeful order, they do not either take the time to digest your words and understand them, or they do not respond because your air of intellectualism is what they think they have to attain for you to be able to read their posts. They simply cannot reach that bar, and believe within themselves that you could not possibly want to read their drivel.

I don't think this is the case, however. I have seen you read and respond to a great number of posts, from the nearly incoherent on up the chain with very reasonable and well thought out responses. The falter is theirs, friend. They simply apply a perception of you that is misapplied because of the way you write and they somehow correlate that with the way you read.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 4:31 pm

Here she comes, to the rescue...

Such a sweetie
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Here she comes, to the rescue...

Such a sweetie

And we come back around to the topic in an interesting way. I am what my nature intends me to be in nearly every case. I am mother, the comforter. Unlike other women and nearly all rabid feminists, I do not deny my nature in a desperate quest to become like men. I do not want to be like men, for my equality comes from the power that is between my legs, in the very scent and essence of my being. I am giver of life, provider of release for my male equal, interested listener, loyal confidant, the respectable balance for the strength I have sought out in a mate. I need not compete with other women because I am all for him, whatever it is he needs as long as it does not hurt me. We make each other better by having honest discourse about what we can improve, how we can be better parents, better employees, better lovers, better leaders.

His success is lifted by that power and floats effortlessly. A buoy on a sea of men who are held back or drowned by women who want to climb upon their shoulders and be something they are not. Or by those males who try and go it alone or seek out the wrong kind of mate and tire themselves out just trying to stay afloat.

In most cases, the man who is alone is far weaker and less manly than those virile males who have an equal partner at their side who knows what her purpose in life is.

In example, I am an excellent database administrator and I earned a good living and a healthy respect from my co-workers. But it wasn't until I became a mother and then a nurse when I started to take pride in myself and really became what I was meant to be. There was a completion. I was made whole and we became a stronger team. I am not like other women who need gossip and vitriol to feel better about myself, I don't suffer the same kinds of insecurity or uncertainty about my future or my marriage. I don't need the makeup or fancy clothes, and I never have issues in the bedroom with give or take. I have never been happier.

I am kind and I am sweet, but I am also honest because I believe that compassion is key to making all people better. Feminism tries to undermine the power we have within ourselves and tries to take that control for itself. It doesn't understand that by conceding that control, we are truly free.
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PostSubject: Re: Feminism Feminism - Page 20 EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 6:10 pm

Mustn't be hard on the boy. He dreams of having a woman like you...
No, wait....that's me.

Never-mind.

Always loved the essence of women, who accept wholeheartedly their femininity and do not want to be men, or who do not want to reduce men to feel their equal.


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Being comforted has a tendency to make uncomfortable.
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