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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Jul 25, 2014 1:46 pm

Anfang wrote:
I thought the 'agent of chaos' game was just a way of hinting at LoL being a chaotic spammer.
What does the agent of chaos expect? That Gotham City is not putting him in the Asylum?
And who is Gotham City? In this case it's not some democratically elected city council.
Revolution of chaos failed. Try again, or not.
He emulates the fictitious character The Joker.
He calls himself an "agent of chaos" proud of this label
He repeatedly claims that he wants chaos.

I give him a small, harmless, taste, and what does he do?

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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Jul 25, 2014 1:57 pm

This is so utterly silly.
Bunch of grown ups playing a game of let's ignore that guy.
Do you talk about him in the bathroom, too, and then giggle? Bet you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Jul 25, 2014 2:06 pm

Satyr wrote:
Anfang wrote:
I thought the 'agent of chaos' game was just a way of hinting at LoL being a chaotic spammer.
What does the agent of chaos expect? That Gotham City is not putting him in the Asylum?
And who is Gotham City? In this case it's not some democratically elected city council.
Revolution of chaos failed. Try again, or not.
He emulates the fictitious character The Joker.
He calls himself an "agent of chaos" proud of this label
He repeatedly claims that he wants chaos.

I give him a small, harmless, taste, and what does he do?


Funny, in his childish fictional anecdote in the OP, he envisions the Joker as this "seeder" of chaos however he fails to include the alacrity to cultivate these seeds into productive means beyond mere words and pleasantries.

Action/activity is what chaos is which is why the Joker is always on the move, always impulsive, never thinking beyond the immediate.

He is like a woman seduced by the idealism of the masculine, but disappointed by the lacking in the reality. He is in love with what the Joker represents, but, like a coward, has no ability to live up to any of it, otherwise he wouldn't even be on discussion forums to begin with, he would be out, perpetrating acts of destruction. This forum is meant to investigate and challenge why something is the way it is through critical and abstract thought, and that kills the buzz for him.

Would a child want a lecture about why he likes to play adventure games and pretend he is a pirate? He doesn't want reality to ruin the feeling, to ruin the image.



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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Jul 25, 2014 2:13 pm

Satyr wrote:
Anfang wrote:
I thought the 'agent of chaos' game was just a way of hinting at LoL being a chaotic spammer.
What does the agent of chaos expect? That Gotham City is not putting him in the Asylum?
And who is Gotham City? In this case it's not some democratically elected city council.
Revolution of chaos failed. Try again, or not.
He emulates the fictitious character The Joker.
He calls himself an "agent of chaos" proud of this label
He repeatedly claims that he wants chaos.

I give him a small, harmless, taste, and what does he do?

In the movies, Joker's months and years spent in the Asylum, where he's improving his laughter is always depicted in a romanticized fast forward. If only LoL could skip this part.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Jul 25, 2014 2:35 pm

Convenient to skip over all those boring, or terrible moments of life, to get to the desirable outcome.
Like a bodybuilder who wants to skip the sweat, and go straight to the looking good part.

The moment you expose such a delusional mind to a small taste of what it takes, he recoils, only used to the aftereffect as he imagines it.
A moron, like LaughingStock , with obvious psychological issues, can say he hates order and loves chaos, but give him a small taste of what it means, before he gets to the hoped for, desirable, outcome, and he reacts....with tantrums.

And this is why all come to his aid.
Protecting him, is protecting themselves.

Most of these do-gooders, would sooner piss on this turd, than come to his aid, but here they are running to defend him.  
It's how you see who is who.

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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 21, 2014 9:37 pm

Is Divergense from this forum the moderator on your forum?

Anarchism's ideal subscribes to anti-hierarchy: it opposes, nay, derelicts order and wishes to exist in in toto chaos.
Can there be extreme order and extreme chaos? Chaos and Order should remain autonomous, until one extends past its parameters and the other acts as a corrective measure.
If anarchists had it their way, they would not exist, hence why they ultimately, out of necessity, reality, establish hierarchy amongst and within their system. That it is a system itself displays occurrence of Order.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 21, 2014 10:58 pm

There can be no absence of an arche.
The arche is nature or an agency of nature, such as another willful organism.
When one or more organisms (inter)act a hierarchy is established.

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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Aug 22, 2014 1:05 am

Hrodebert wrote:
Is Divergense from this forum the moderator on your forum?

Anarchism's ideal subscribes to anti-hierarchy: it opposes, nay, derelicts order and wishes to exist in in toto chaos.
Can there be extreme order and extreme chaos? Chaos and Order should remain autonomous, until one extends past its parameters and the other acts as a corrective measure.
If anarchists had it their way, they would not exist, hence why they ultimately, out of necessity, reality, establish hierarchy amongst and within their system. That it is a system itself displays occurrence of Order.
Yeah I'm moderating the forum.

I actually agree with Satyr, hierarchy is inevitable, and to suggest otherwise, is foolhardy.
However, where I disagree with Satyr is - parity is also inevitable, and no less a part of reality than hierarchy.
There's no such thing as absolute parity, nor absolute hierarchy, rather, there's degrees of parity/hierarchy.
In my estimation, Satyr prefers difference to similarity, which gives him activity, hierarchy, and the like.
"Hierarchy is present between all things, and parity is absent between all things", right?
You see, activity isn't his number one principle, differentiation is, which I believe is more fundamental than even activity, and hierarchy, for him.
The opposing sort of metaphysics would be the metaphysics of sameness.
Monism versus plurality.
However, his plurality isn't an absolute plurality, there's degrees of plurality, for him, where as for eastern thinkers, who also did away with absolutes, like the Buddha, and Lao Tzu, proposed degrees of monism.

Dynamic monism vs. dynamic pluralism.

Anyway, hierarchy can't be eliminated, but it can be minimized, or maximized, depending on the circumstances.
I'd rather minimize than maximize it, considering where it's going, the Jews and wealthy internationalists with no allegiance to anyone or anything are destroying and enslaving whites, and virtually everyone.

However, all hierarchies other than biological ones are based on games we play, which can benefit or cost biology in the short term or the long run.
What's incredible is many games have absolutely nothing to do with biology whatsoever, like many of the worlds religions, and yet, people take them very seriously, and they get promulgated.
People with weak biologies are often particularly attracted to such games.
Sometimes the strong can be seduced into playing such games, but if they can be seduced, perhaps they weren't very strong to begin with in the first place?
As we speak, Europeans are playing silly games, like hedonism and materialism, meanwhile their countries are being devoured by Zionists, wealthy internationalists and their pawns (Blacks, Hispanics).
Some games are pure entertainment, like video games, feigning otherwise.
We may refer to such games as nihilistic, in the Nietzschean sense. Rather than play their game, or no game, I'd rather make a new one, one that suits me and my idea(l)s, which are in the process of formulation.

Yeah, a new program, one more suitable both to me, and my aspirations.
A new game needs new rules, and a redefining of what it means to win/lose.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 pm

Do you have to be an absolute idealist to be an anarchist?

Or can there be degrees of anarchism and anarchy?

I'm thinking the latter.

How much do dictators and kings really care about their people, averagely?
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Aug 22, 2014 3:13 pm

Divergense wrote:
Do you have to be an absolute idealist to be an anarchist?

Or can there be degrees of anarchism and anarchy?

I'm thinking the latter.

How much do dictators and kings really care about their people, averagely?

My point between the necessary balance of Order and Chaos. A system which, crudely and broadly put, uses aspects of both anarchism (the Arche/State is nothing without the individual; in fact individuals don't need an Arche) and fascism (the Individual is nothing, meaningless, without the Arche/State), or individualism and collectivism, for instance.
National Socialism of the past German Reich attempted this with its structure which said that the Individual and Arche are reciprocal of, dependent on, one another: it was nothing novel so to speak as it was expressing an ancient, or primordial driving force; Reality.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyFri Aug 22, 2014 9:29 pm

Hrodebert wrote:
Divergense wrote:
Do you have to be an absolute idealist to be an anarchist?

Or can there be degrees of anarchism and anarchy?

I'm thinking the latter.

How much do dictators and kings really care about their people, averagely?

My point between the necessary balance of Order and Chaos. A system which, crudely and broadly put, uses aspects of both anarchism (the Arche/State is nothing without the individual; in fact individuals don't need an Arche) and fascism (the Individual is nothing, meaningless, without the Arche/State), or individualism and collectivism, for instance.
National Socialism of the past German Reich attempted this with its structure which said that the Individual and Arche are reciprocal of, dependent on, one another: it was nothing novel so to speak as it was expressing an ancient, or primordial driving force; Reality.
Right, balance. Balance between collectivism and individualism, man and environment, and so on. For me, I see balance in what I refer to as (Green) National Libertarian Socialism, with elements of hierarchy thrown in for good measure. So you see, I'm not against hierarchy itself, I'm merely proposing a different and more moderate form than we have presently. I wouldn't be surprised if it's difficult for you to envision what I'm talking about, perhaps I'll elaborate here or on another thread.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySat Aug 23, 2014 4:41 pm

Divergense wrote:
Hrodebert wrote:
Divergense wrote:
Do you have to be an absolute idealist to be an anarchist?

Or can there be degrees of anarchism and anarchy?

I'm thinking the latter.

How much do dictators and kings really care about their people, averagely?

My point between the necessary balance of Order and Chaos. A system which, crudely and broadly put, uses aspects of both anarchism (the Arche/State is nothing without the individual; in fact individuals don't need an Arche) and fascism (the Individual is nothing, meaningless, without the Arche/State), or individualism and collectivism, for instance.
National Socialism of the past German Reich attempted this with its structure which said that the Individual and Arche are reciprocal of, dependent on, one another: it was nothing novel so to speak as it was expressing an ancient, or primordial driving force; Reality.
Right, balance. Balance between collectivism and individualism, man and environment, and so on. For me, I see balance in what I refer to as (Green) National Libertarian Socialism, with elements of hierarchy thrown in for good measure. So you see, I'm not against hierarchy itself, I'm merely proposing a different and more moderate form than we have presently. I wouldn't be surprised if it's difficult for you to envision what I'm talking about, perhaps I'll elaborate here or on another thread.

There's the low blow.

Anyway, myself and others who are cognizant of Modernity and its various expressions know that centralization, or a one world government, New World Order, is contrary to alignment with Natural hierarchy.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySat Aug 23, 2014 7:13 pm

Robert, you misinterpreted, I didn't mean it like that. How could you or anyone possibly envision what I was saying, I just threw a term out there: (Green) National Libertarian Socialism, without delving into it, It's likely too vague for you or anyone to derive much meaning from. Like I said, I'll probably post more here or elsewhere on the subject in due time.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptySat Aug 23, 2014 11:38 pm

Divergense wrote:
Robert, you misinterpreted, I didn't mean it like that. How could you or anyone possibly envision what I was saying, I just threw a term out there: (Green) National Libertarian Socialism, without delving into it, It's likely too vague for you or anyone to derive much meaning from. Like I said, I'll probably post more here or elsewhere on the subject in due time.

Got it, mate.
I understand what each symbolizes separately and sort of your own standpoints and then formed a representation of what it may entail that way.
Alright, if it's not too verbose a post I will be the first to read it.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 28, 2014 4:05 pm

I can post again. That's new.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 28, 2014 5:00 pm

When 1 door closes, another opens.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 28, 2014 5:33 pm

Divergense wrote:
When 1 door closes, another opens.

What I think it is, Satyr deeply missed me and my absence where he is currently throwing a welcome back party. It's really hard to resist my charisma and awesome personality.

I'm sure he agrees as well with this.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyThu Aug 28, 2014 5:51 pm

Oh, did I forget my irresistible smile and laughter?

I know the KTS crowd has missed that also.

I'm a real charmer.......
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyTue Sep 16, 2014 9:06 am

This is defintly not a two cult ring-leader display of affection.
Not at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyTue Sep 16, 2014 5:56 pm

Gluttony wrote:
This is defintly not a two cult ring-leader display of affection.
Not at all.

Huh?

So, how's the internet magical monarchy going guys?

Has anybody become king and queen yet of the noble elitists?

Satyr? Lyssa?

And here I thought you guys missed me as your court Jester.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyTue Sep 16, 2014 11:01 pm

The two I meant:
LaughingMan & Satyr
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Gluttony wrote:
The two I meant:
LaughingMan & Satyr

I'm chaos while he is order. Polar opposites really.

He's just as nihilistic as me even when he tries to deny it.
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What if, LaughingMan and Satyr are both egos residing within the same head ?
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyWed Sep 17, 2014 9:09 pm

LaughingMan wrote:
Gluttony wrote:
The two I meant:
LaughingMan & Satyr

I'm chaos while he is order. Polar opposites really.

He's just as nihilistic as me even when he tries to deny it.

O rly? I thought he had already expose you in that little chaos game.
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Dr.Rorschach wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:
Gluttony wrote:
The two I meant:
LaughingMan & Satyr

I'm chaos while he is order. Polar opposites really.

He's just as nihilistic as me even when he tries to deny it.

O rly? I thought he had already expose you in that little chaos game.


You sychophants should really learn to take the cock out of your asses around here.

He exposed nothing. I made it back to ILP and still have my own forum.

If I get banned here again and again it changes nothing.


Not that I really post here anymore anyways.

I get more amusement watching you guys than anything else.
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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyWed Sep 17, 2014 9:18 pm

LaughingMan wrote:
Dr.Rorschach wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:
Gluttony wrote:
The two I meant:
LaughingMan & Satyr

I'm chaos while he is order. Polar opposites really.

He's just as nihilistic as me even when he tries to deny it.

O rly? I thought he had already expose you in that little chaos game.


You sychophants should really learn to take the cock out of your asses around here.

He exposed nothing. I made it back to ILP and still have my own forum.

If I get banned here again and again it changes nothing.


Not that I really post here anymore anyways.

I get more amusement watching you guys than anything else.
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Yes, thanks for quoting me.

If you want you can get that printed and framed.
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LaughingMan wrote:
Yes, thanks for quoting me.

If you want you can get that printed and framed.

Nah, just highlighted it, as it's a milestone in your mental evolution: one the few decent points to come out of that slacked-jaw of yours.


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PostSubject: Re: Anarchist Nihilism Anarchist Nihilism - Page 3 EmptyWed Sep 17, 2014 9:33 pm

You would wish to be the polar opposite of satyr,cockroach. Do something for yourself, you just said that to elevate yourself,its really fucking pathethic,you silly clown.

Maybe its true he didnt expose you...you exposed yourself
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Hrodebert wrote:
LaughingMan wrote:
Yes, thanks for quoting me.

If you want you can get that printed and framed.

Nah, just highlighted it, as it's a milestone in your mental evolution: one the few decent points to come out of that slacked-jaw of yours.


Awwww, shucks.

You really shouldn't have.
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