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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyTue Aug 27, 2024 9:07 am

There is no state of non-existence.
All exists.
Non-existence is a noetic construct that takes perceived existence and inverts it - negates it.

All that exists is caused by what exists.
There is no state of nothingness, other than a noetic inability to perceive patterns, which is experienced as no-thingness - thingness being how consciousness interest perceived patterns.

Existence is dynamic and interactive.
Energy = state of agitation, which is another way of saying dynamic - Flux.
Energies can be pattered or non-pattered.
Non-patterned energies are imperceptible, and so this is what consciousness - a product of ordering - experiences as void, darkness, emptiness, no-thingness...evil....uncertain - that which cannot be evaluated - lacking possibility, where matter is defined as perceived and evaluated - judged - probability.

Existence is also called nature, or cosmos.

Nihilism is entirely semiotic.....it can only ever exist as a mental inversion of a conscious interpretation of perceptible order.
Its power (effect) is derived by how many other minds it can manipulate and exploit - convince.
It has no power outside minds and outside minds that do not share a semiotic standard, i.e., a common language.

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When does nihilism emerge, in all its variants?
When does it become necessary?

When self-awareness has reached a level of objectivity that requires defensive measures to be enacted to protect the ego; semiotics creating a cocoon for the lucid part of consciousness of hide within.
When objective reality becomes unbearable to the majority, exposing individuals to facts they cannot endure, because of the personal implications.

When do nihilistic dogmas/ideologies become popular?
When do they spread, becoming conventional, indisputable, 'truths'?
When population and resource pressures necessitate self-abnegation.
When individuated despair threatens to become destructive, necessitating 'noble lies' to placate the masses of mediocrity.

Abrahamism is to Hellenism what Buddhism is to Hinduism.
A placating lie, that becomes popular, therefore politically and spiritually useful as a semiotic defence against nature's self-corrections - her rebalancing what human meddling has wrought.

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This theoretical "outside existence", most call "metaphysical", is the non-existent.
Super-natural, meta-physical, is its linguistic trickery.
Does it exist?
Yes, it exists within existence, in the brains of those who use it to negate existence, because it contradicts their desires.
It exists, like the concept represented by words, such as "unicorn, leprechauns, griffins" and words such as "one", and "nil" - existing as abstractions with no referent because they've been synthesized and inverted the perceptible or have reduced it to its lowest forms - abstracted it by cutting it away from its fluidity.
And what is an abstraction?
A reduction of the perceived, necessary for it to be processed and converted into a representational idea.
A binary dimensional compression of multidimensional existential flux - simplification, generalization.

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Nihilists begin with the word, representing a concept, which they attempt to establish in conventional use to validate their subjective preferences.
Their definitions lack external referents, so they must compensate by popularizing them - others mirror back what is missing in the world.
Intersubjectivity.

An example from the most popular spiritual nihilism:
John 1:1 wrote:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
God = humanity, the collective, reflecting back the word.
Abraham's one-god can only exist as a concept, in the minds of those who believe in him, those that have adopted the same definition of the term 'god.'
The tale about the resurrected saviour is a tale of transformation, from tangible to intangible, from the act to the abstracted, manifested through the word - logos.

The word is the means towards salvation - the messiah.
Only linguistically can the believer save himself from reality, fabricating and immersing himself within shared alternative realities built by codes of exchange.
This is why I say money is they Jewish messiah.
A collectively accepted form of human exchange - abstracted to the extreme - fiat money - so as to be completely detached from a world it is meant to "correct".
Shared convictions, shared trusts, create intersubjective links within which all are saved.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyWed Oct 30, 2024 7:58 am

Pure nihilism negates.
This is not a philosophical position.
It is a defensive position denying or rejecting all hypothesis that threaten it, without offering an alternative.

Positive nihilism negates the threat by creating or defining concepts in ways that contradict experienced existence.

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Nihilists cannot endure any degree of uncertainty, so they find nature, and its state of chaos/order, intolerable.
They need absolutes.
So, they are attracted to the absolute binaries language provides for them.
If not absolute being, then absolute non-being.
1/0 binaries - semiotic.
Anything that cannot be absolutely proven, can be absolutely denied.
No degrees are acceptable - no probabilities.
Only certainties; only absolutes.
Where is this indivisible, immutable, being....this thing-in-itself?
Nowhere.....ergo all is non-being and no-thing.

This is their refuge, language and its dualities, referring to an existence that lacks absolute states of being.
It's in the very definition of 'nihilism.'
It's in their definitions, ro lack of.
Defining words would expose their motives.....their self-deciets....their linguistic games.
They want concepts to remain detached from fluid reality, because then their ideas can attain the absolute certainties of positives/negatives.

Positive and pure nihilism.
Their "thinking" is trapped in absolutist binaries - entirely representational; entirely theoretical, entirely abstract and conceptual.
All referents to a fluctuating, dynamic, uncertain world must be "corrected."
Their minds need absolutes.
Free-will, must be conceptualized within their nihilistic binaries, but first the words must be defined in ways that detach them form anything experienced.
Only the idea can be negated, not the real.
The real confronts them.
They cannot escape it...so they look for shelter among intersubjective collectives that become cooperative affirmations of shared absolutes.

They do this with all possible words, referring to pheneomna.....observable, falsifiable, yet uncertain referents.
How wonderful, for them, that if a concept canot be absolutely affirmed, it can be noetically negated, despite the apparent.
It can be declared to be illusory....
Negation becomes the only certainty.
All can be denounced, dismissed, ignored, doubted....because nothing is absolute.
Nothing is a thing...immutable, indivisible, eternal.
All is fluctuating....
No-thing, is their certainty.

The binary shifts....from some-thing - uncertain, imprecise - to no-thing - certain.
All can be nullified, even the perceptible.
This is their feminine method.
Undermine....pick at details, find crevices of lack and exploit it to destroy it all.

Psychosis.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyWed Oct 30, 2024 8:51 am

Nihilism is a language mind-game.
A defensive strategy, trying to nullify what threatens the individuals that use it.
A strategy.

Its method is to find a flaw....no matter how small....a lack, an absence....because there is no absolute this is possible for every concept: e.g., as long as omniscience is impossible they can negate all knowledge claims and offer nothing in return.
But they have nothing to offer - literally - all they have is a feminine method of coping.
But can they nullify existence using this method?
No.
But their objective is not to accomplish anything, but it is to comfort themselves.

In the nature vs nurture debate they don't have to offer a superior theory...all they offer is doubt....negation.... and they apply it arbitrarily.
Toward what they feel does not threaten them, they do not show the same degree of skepticism as they do towards what they feel, they intuitively, know will expose them to a lot of pain....will expose the wounds they want to protect using this method.
The concept they become obsessed with negating hints at the source of their psychological trauma.

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This self-deceiving ruse is what they desperately want to preserve, because without it they have no other way of coping with existence.
As long as they can maintain doubt they feel relieved, even if they offer no alternatives.
They don't have to, in their desperation.
All they must do is maintain some degree of doubt.
Their psychosis demands no superior theory to be presented, if they can preserve their doubt concerning theories presented to them, which they find intolerably threatening.

They need not be philosophers if they can simply doubt all philosophies.
Easy...even a child can do it.
Their "philosophy" is anti-philosophy.

Their reality is anti-reality, selectively applied.

Nothing can be absolutely proven; therefore, everything remains absolutely unproved.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyWed Oct 30, 2024 5:27 pm

If we understand that nihilism is an existential matter, then we will realize that there is nothing we can say that will ever convince a nihilist to abandon his coping method.


A combination of cowardice and idiocy is always an underlying factor.

Unable to accept responsibility for the things that happened to them, or totally incapable of thinking objectively and abstractly, trapped in the Abrahamic duality of mind/body where they associate with the mind, and disassociate from their own body.
Mind, for these imbeciles is an incorporeal mystery....like the soul, or in Judaism 'sparks of divinity.'
They cannot identify with the body's willful reactions....
For them, this is occurring against their will.
It's not them....there's something else at work.
Unable or incapable to understand how every act - conscious and unconscious - is a manifestation of the self.

Might as well try to explain to a dog that the reflection in the mirror is itself - inverted.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 3:57 am

Nihilism is a weakness and disease of the Soul.

"Soul" meaning Physical health + Mental health + Genetic health.

It's not enough to eat well and lift weights, to exercise.  It's not enough to have a high IQ and study.  Courage is a very powerful trait, combined with Wisdom.  But still, being a 5' tall Pygmy, you would have almost no effect on the post-modern world.  It's also about Bloodline / Heritage / Breed / Dignity.  The combination of all these positive attributes, give an individual and his Ethnic society, the greatest defense against Nihilistic (Spiritual/Abrahamic) Diseases.

Nihilism culminates in a genetic disease, among the Dysgenic (human garbage/pollution), that when left to fester and rot, can destroy and take-down the greatest of societies and civilizations over time.  History has immaculate records of these.  One only need to be a Healthy-minded Historian, Objective, to study and understand these facts.  Nihilism promotes and spreads Hedonism, resulting in a steep decline of Self-Discipline (Martial Health).  This leads to a lowering of a society's physical, mental, spiritual (genetic) defenses.  A society that cannot defend itself, is doomed to death or slavery.

Abrahamism is the ancient Cult of Slavery.  'God' is allegorical, to the Slave-Master of all the Abrahamic Slaves.

What Westerners call "Liberalism", among the Secularists / Agnostics / Atheists, is actually "Freedom which (God) Allows for".  They have not fully escaped their Abrahamic roots, nor wish to.  They choose Safety/Security over Freedom/Liberty, when push comes to shove.  We've seen their "thoughts" on all these philosophy forums, for 20 years.  When shown 'outside' of the Abrahamic paradigm and metaphysics, they have no interest.  So their 'Philosophical' interest, at the heart, protects their reluctance to let go of their Abrahamic foundations.

Even the most 'Atheist' of the bunch, are ardent Zionists, who believe State-propaganda at will, feeding and drinking from the trough as-if dehydrated to death.  They are starved for Meaning and Purpose in life.  Since they no longer receive it from their central (Protestant) Church, they turn to the State (Leftism) instead.  They call their own God a "Lie", but then enjoy the protective status of State-lies and falsehoods.  From one Nihilism to the next.  Any ambition they could ever have of "The Truth" is shallow and short-lived.  They may come and feed on tidbits of philosophical wisdom, but they-themselves don't want to 'do the work' required.  Even in this, they still "trust the Experts", the so-called "philospohers" of Academia, who've never stepped foot out of the Halls of Academy, let alone studied Nature directly and first-hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 8 EmptyThu Oct 31, 2024 4:18 am

Do you remember the dozen or so beaten Secularists or Agnostics, and their final admissions?

"Yeah, okay, but what do *YOU* offer? What's your system? What's your plan?"

At the end of their Logical abilities, their mental limits, their final desire is a return to Ignorance. And they hide this with their "Philosophies". They're not actually interested in Philosophy, but instead the pretense and prestige of supposed intellectualism. They only hope to use 'Logic' to defend their Nihilism and Abrahamic foundations. They don't have the Individuality required for independence. They don't have the political ambition or leadership, to inspire a Reformation. They either cannot, or will not, change and influence their own society / ethnos, for the better. They want to return to Following, and Obeying a new Holy Script.

This was/is the project of the Iakobians, Nitzscheans.

They lack the Creativity to either create something New, or, to give homage to the very old and Ancient, the European roots.
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In realism there is no god, no human law, no agency required.
Every judgement, every choice, suffers the consequences of its own making.

But nihilists need a collective to protect them from these consequences.
They need it so much they must accuse realism of also imposing its will, using coercive or seductive or bribery.... but it does not.
All it asks is that all live with the consequences of their own judgements and choices, without anyone intervening.

So, if Jane wants to live the lifestyle of a modern woman, as a promiscuous slut, then she can, but she ought not expect anyone to step in and save her from the consequences of her own choices.
No police....no laws....no abortion clinics, no day after contraceptives....
Let natural selection do its work.
If she rejects human interventions, then let her reject them all... not just some of them.

Let's see how long her Sex and the City lifestyle lasts, without any human interventions.
Let her truly live within her subjectivity.
How long will she survive?
If there is truly no right ro wrong judgment, then let her put her subjective beliefs to the test and live with whatever happens with no human interventions.

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