Radical authoritarianism - Left vs Right

In my country there was an incident some two weeks ago when a Nazi swastika pattern was sighted on the soccer field. The authorities still, weeks later, claim to have no idea who the perpetrator is, or might be. Highly unlikely, since there are video cameras all over the field, and under a 1000 people have access to the field at all. Our police are capable of finding a criminal in towns of over hundreds of thousands of people, even if they weren't filmed perpetrating the crime.

Interestingly enough, anybody famous who speaks their mind about it, and points all of this out, has the secret police dig up something in their past, anything - real or not, and they are threatened with jail/prison. The evidence indicates that it was all orchestrated by some big shots who are probably never going to get arrested. At most, they will lock up some bum accused of conducting the act, and not the one who gave the order in the first place.

Croatia isn't very Westernized and leftist yet, we have a moderate-left and moderate-right party who have about the same number of supporters, but currently the left is in power so I doubt they are the ones protecting anybody here.

That was some background information. More interesting than all of that for us philosophers though, is the uproar this has caused amongst people – everybody gets overemotional and morally upset at the mention of Nazism, and when asked why the general answer can be summed up as 'Do you know how many people were killed under that symbol?'
I asked people would they mind as much if it had been a heart pattern, instead of swastika. Obviously, they wouldn't, so this rules out the uproar because of simple hooliganism, since people didn't mind the act of making a pattern, but the pattern that was made.
Then I further asked, what if it was a communist symbol, and people were, mostly, indifferent. Some say they would be annoyed but wouldn't really care much, others give you the usual 'communism is a good idea, just that it hasn't been implemented in practice properly yet' excuse. This determined it – the uproar was not merely because of a political symbol, or a radical political symbol, but because it was a far right, Nazi one.

I don't think the majority of us are indoctrinated and conditioned to react the same way at communistic, and otherwise far-left authoritarian imagery, are we? Did they not commit the 'evils' or whatever you want to call it, of an identical or at least similar magnitude? As far as I know, the communists killed even more people, much more.

The phrase 'winners write history' appears to be remarkably accurate, since the only relevant difference, unless I missed something, is that the communists were on the winning, the majority side.

Another interesting fact I would like to add is, people barely know anything about Nazism, or communism. Most of them couldn't name a single Nazi aside from Hitler, and sometimes Rommel or Goering. When asked about the tenets of Nazism, and what they advocate, they knew almost nothing but the very basics, aka, that it is an authoritarian ideology which promotes nationalist values. They don't know much more about communism either. I'm not an expert myself, but that it just pathetic and sad considering how certain they are about their positions, as if their positions are results of a thorough, academic research rivaling science.

It's sad once you realize that most people's opinions, and positions, are based on the majority view or poorly researched data at best.

The winner writes the history books. The Judeo-christian, Jew/Protestant coalition, the chosen ones, have cultivated the psychotic automatic reaction to the mere mentioning of certain words, or the showing of certain symbols.

What really happened during the Great last War and after it, has yet to be revealed.
All we can do is analyze the symptoms and try to follow them back to the did-ease.

I've offered my own diagnosis...offer your own, if it is not in agreement.

I, remember, back when the crypto-Marxists of SYRIZA were elected in Greece, how some, New age, punks, high on menorah fumes, cheered at the coming of a new age in Europe...a cosmopolitan Europe, as in United Stated of America, culture of no culture, melting pot, "cosmopolitanism".

And look where these Semite-infected minds have done to a nation already rotting from centuries of christian filth.

What they mean by "cosmopolitan" has nothing to do with the cosmopolitanism of the Hellenes, and when they speak of "asceticism" it has nothing to do with Hellenic askisis....nothing.

This is how they understand Hellenism...from the Jew-Christian prism of their modern Marxist/humanistic ideologies.
Even the identity of Hellene is lost on them.....the paideia, and kthonic aspect of the Hellenes becomes shallow nationalism of the good-ol-american boys, the vood-doo agrarianism of communism, and race as color of skin, and African drum-beats in harmony with heart-rates.

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Do you doubt whether Holocaust happened? I don't think it happened exactly as described, it was probably blown out of the proportion due to the well-known Jewish fetish for victimization, but I think the evidence so far is indisputable, and the holocaust denialists so far I judged to look, act, talk and overall appear to be lunatics. Of course, I still retain some doubt about it, but would not go nearly as far as to deny it.

Whether it was moral or not is another thing to whether it happened at all.

Other examples of how leftists manipulate language and thus concepts, is the word 'equality'. There is 'equality of opportunity' and 'equality of outcome'. Because I thought that leftists advocated the first is why I considered myself a leftist.

So basically what leftists do, is use equality to mean 'equality of outcome', and this is what they try to implement in schools, universities and jobs too with all their women-only scholarships, fixed quotas and all that. You know them, the vulgar mob of immature youth gathered together, screaming 'equality'. Then when you criticize equality as they present it (equality of outcome), they begin defending equality of opportunity because it is easier to defend, 'so you think women shouldn't be allowed to do X job, you sexist misogynist?' If by some miracle you manage to convince them you're not a sexist, misogynist pig, and that you defend actual equality of opportunity, then they will revert to the argument that women can't do as good as men in certain fields because of oppression and social constructs/stigma attached to being a female in a certain field, which inhibit them. Then you point out that there are few women who actually do manage to be as good as men in certain fields, and ask them to explain how that can happen if their claim that women are inhibited, is true, how come there are some women who clearly aren't inhibited at all. I propose the explanation based on scientific data and simple inductive reasoning, that since males are proven to be more intelligent on average, and more capable of abstract thinking, that they will do better on average in jobs which require intelligence and abstract thought, and then it's all back to you being a sexist misogynist.

This is why equality as proposed by modern leftism is a disease. Equality is the social construct, nature is diversity, multiplicity, nothing is equal in nature, there is always variation, regardless of how minor. In minds of most modern people, 'equality' now has positive connotations, is associated with positive emotions, so people feel very uncomfortable attacking it even if it is a subversive disease.

The word 'discrimination' is another example of this.

Anyway, new development in the last couple of days: turns out it possibly was the leftist government that orchestrated it, in order to put the blame on some rightist public personalities they disdain. The kind of shit that happens in my country politics is what movies are made of. Politicians acting in contradiction with the law, knowing things they aren't supposed to know, being recorded expressing their knowledge of those things, then later claiming how they know nothing when they realize they weren't allowed to in the first place. And we are being governed by these idiots...

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I don't think it happened exactly as described, it was probably blown out of the proportion

That's hol0caust-denial as it is understood by those who usually cry hol0caust-denial.

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1. A social construct (contribution by Icthus), just a bunch of ideas and policies some people came up with and, mostly arbitrarily, stuck together, and perhaps used by the ruling classes to divide the masses into at least two big camps and rule them.
There's no good reason why socialism came to be associated with say, atheism, or feminism, socialism could just as easily come to be associated with theism, and patriarchy.

2. Leftwing Social Justice/Rightwing fear of State Overreach (contribution by Ichthus).

3. Leftwing Right Brain/Rightwing Left Brain (contribution by UrWrong.

4. Leftwing State/Rightwing Church (Contribution by UrWrong)

5. Leftwing Counterculture/Rightwing Culture (contribution by Gloominary, altho I'm by no means the first person to come up with it, I'm sure thousands before me came to the same and similar conclusions).

6. Leftwing Scientism and Technocracy/Rightwing Religion and Theocracy (contribution by Gloominary).

7. Leftwing Femininity/Rightwing Masculinity (contribution by Satyr).

Left/Right politics are affected by feminine/masculine dynamics - Feminization increases the dominance of the left - which are founded on chaos/order, and how individual conceptualize and react to these cosmological dualities  - Yin/Yang.

Chaos becomes more tolerable, desirable, after prolonged periods of safety and order.
The left imagines order as change, challenging order, which may bring about a better, for them, form of order.

Right/Left brain is McGilchrist....and State = secular order (physical); church = spiritual (mental) is also Satyr.
Both are institutionalized, abstracted, masculinity forcing biological males into positions of feminine surrogate agencies.

Metaphysically right/left is based no how life relates to change....change being interaction, referring to existence.
So left/right politics are existential - how man relates to his own existence.

Denial of the physical - body - is a rejection of all kinds of pre-existing order - or order independent from human motives.
The left denies order as being independent from human or willful intents - all order must be made intentional, willful, because only then can it be wilfully/intentionally adjusted.
So they reject god and nature as the source of order.

The right is the radical position since it advocates an arbitrary arresting of change, or a return to a previous form of order.

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So called "progressives" are the worse kind of conservatives. Naïve and duplicitous.
They worship "change" only in as much as they hope it will bring about a state they consider worth conserving; one that never existed nor can ever exist other than in their idealistic minds.

Leftism thrives in chaos.

On the other side of the political radical spectrum from neo-Marxist opportunist is the neo-Capitalist anarchist.
On the left neo-Marxist opportunists work within the system to undermine it, enjoying the privileges of power as they justify increasing the suffering of those they pretend to be interested in protesting from capitalist exploitations. Sharing a resentment for those they pretend to serve with those they pretend to be undermining. Public displays of heated debate and ideological warfare are followed by private symposiums sharing privileged status and common resentments towards those they linguistically exploit.
On the right neo-Capitalist anarchists do not identify with the place or the people they live among, feeling no duty towards them, gaining the advantage of feeling no shame in exploiting and manipulating them; feeling free and clever in their detachments. With no connection to the people and the land they can move to any place and remain just as disconnected and cynically manipulative – predatory parasitism. They have no problem with criminal or anti-social behaviours because they do not identify with anyone around them- existing on the fringe where they can pretend to be participating and still apart. Their favourite environment is on the periphery, urban undergrounds where ‘radicalized’ parasites congregate and share their exploitation methods and stories, and their communal sense of superiority towards those they refuse to integrate with.

On both sides a form of occultism develops, representing their deceptive practices and their duplicitous sense of superiority, alluding to knowledge only few share.
Cynical narcissism is the psychology characterizing both sides of the radical ends.

I am really getting sick of these twitter wignats, this guy is a Christian variant, but there's been few pro-Germanic larpers and they always turn out to be weirdos/cowards/human trash, that's the problem with anonymity because you never know who is behind the profiles, if you represent German superiority I can't accept that they behave so badly (remember that Meyer shitposter guy I talked about sometime ago can't remember which thread)

I don't support Ukraine because they just happen to have few Nazi sympathizers, I don't think that these people are my ideological brothers or something, it's only a Ukranian context that they want to signal that they are the antithesis of Russians because it's a Russian tradition to claim everyone neighboring them are their "brothers" and try annex or steal their culture, it's just a reference to tell them to f*ck-off and you don't like them

Why this guy especially annoys me that, as you know I don't think ah was the pinnacle of evil, but this piece of shit is enforcing that anyone couldn't criticize him, it's like these zoomers who just recently discovered ns

And I am getting kind of sick of that I am supposed to think these people are "my guys", when clearly there isn't any leadership, but everyone (possibly zoomers) have the delusion that they have to most deep knowledge of esoteric ns etc, it's getting old and tiresome, radicalism signaling of people who obviously don't even socialize outside internet

How about you don't have to use this reference to be a racialist, Like Madison Grant existed before these people

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I am really getting sick of these twitter wignats, this guy is a Christian variant, but there's been few pro-Germanic larpers and they always turn out to be weirdos/cowards/human trash, that's the problem with anonymity because you never know who is behind the profiles, if you represent German superiority I can't accept that they behave so badly (remember that Meyer shitposter guy I talked about sometime ago can't remember which thread)

What I've noticed many people who are so obsessed about only material aspects aren't any different from let's say pronoun peoples (I mean pronoun are completely fake but hear me out), that people who use pronouns lack personality, so it feels like these people who insist that all it takes to be better or above someone is to be of certain type (though this analogy doesn't make any sense, but anyway)

But obviously many of these online radicals are trying to compensate for the lack of their social skills or whatever malfunction they might have

I especially find it weird how many of these pro-Germanic accounts are so hostile towards poles or slavs...I mean yes, I get poles are a bit rude online (sick jokes about genocide/ridicule), but for a Germanic person to view poles as this much of a thread is really weird so obviously there is something weird going on

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What I've noticed many people who are so obsessed about only material aspects aren't any different from let's say pronoun peoples (I mean pronoun are completely fake but hear me out), that people who makes pronouns their personality lack personality, so it feels like these people who insist that all it takes to be better or above someone is to be of certain type

To specify some more, reading "history books" I've concluded that even genetic resemblance doesn't mean people are alike at all, that even siblings murder each other (at least in power struggles of powerful families), so I find it stupid now to only bet everything on just physical appearance, how about take their nature and other aspects into consideration, that there should be also some merit, not just being of decent breed

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I am really getting sick of these twitter wignats, this guy is a Christian variant, but there's been few pro-Germanic larpers and they always turn out to be weirdos/cowards/human trash, that's the problem with anonymity because you never know who is behind the profiles, if you represent German superiority I can't accept that they behave so badly (remember that Meyer shitposter guy I talked about sometime ago can't remember which thread)

What I've noticed many people who are so obsessed about only material aspects aren't any different from let's say pronoun peoples (I mean pronoun are completely fake but hear me out), that people who makes pronouns their personality lack personality, so it feels like these people who insist that all it takes to be better or above someone is to be of certain type

But obviously many of these online radicals are trying to compensate for the lack of their social skills or whatever malfunction they might have

I especially find it weird how many of these pro-Germanic accounts are so hostile towards poles or slavs...I mean yes, I get poles are a bit rude online (sick jokes about genocide/ridicule), but for a Germanic person to view poles as this much of a thread is really weird so obviously there is something weird going on

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What I've noticed many people who are so obsessed about only material aspects aren't any different from let's say pronoun peoples (I mean pronoun are completely fake but hear me out), that people who makes pronouns their personality lack personality, so it feels like these people who insist that all it takes to be better or above someone is to be of certain type

To specify some more, reading "history books" I've concluded that even genetic resemblance doesn't mean people are alike at all, that even siblings murder each other (at least in power struggles of powerful families), so I find it stupid now to only bet everything on just physical appearance, how about take their nature and other aspects into consideration, that there should be also some merit, not just being of decent breed

So that's the reason I am currently only interested in archetypes or actual people with blue-blood, rather than have this WPWW where everyone think they are special

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What I've noticed many people who are so obsessed about only material aspects aren't any different from let's say pronoun peoples (I mean pronoun are completely fake but hear me out), that people who use pronouns lack personality, so it feels like these people who insist that all it takes to be better or above someone is to be of certain type

And this also seems to attract a lot of timid/insecure pretty boys who are afraid to face anything, when the guy doesn't have any other merit than looking good and going to gym it's not really remarkable, (this is very typical for insecure Swedish natsoc larpers/other zoomers, how about develop a personality or overcome yourself), there's many types, so sorry for this vague definition, but that's the vibe I'm getting from many