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Æon wrote:

Like when Lyssa insinuated that my ex-girlfriend must have been ugly...as her personal excuse and justification, to think less of me.

That's a shame. Even after what must be a decade of Satyr teaching you of Degreeeeeeeees,,, you still haven't learned that the opposite of saying your ex-gf. must not look like the girl's pic. you posted does not "immediately" mean she was ugly…

I'm done.

Oh yes, your intentions are so pure and innocent.......what was I thinking?!

lol

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Who are you calling bitch?

I believe he was referring to aeon there, madam Lysvatsky.

A lys...p of a lyp sly...p happens; I'll pardon myself, Brianohnoawitch.

They beg for attention, scream for it, expecting only "positive" feedback, flattery, but when it is "negative" they accuse the source of obsessing.
When they do that they share the motive, unburdening the rest upon the other as an accusation full of innuendo.
Promoting VO is now my own ambition.
I am curios to see what will come of it...and its motley crew.
After seeing Pezer and Ollie sharing their minds, I want Ziit and PDitty, and cAnus , and the bovine, why not?, to join in.
I would love to see universal morality coincide with cAnus' inter-subjectivity, all is best in Democracy, and hedonism, in the self-valuing of the "philosophy kings".

Can value, like the one ring work it's magic?


The reason is more banal than all of that.
When a shark has been swimming around for days, and it smells blood in the water, a squirming of a fish, spasms caused by some distress, he turns to swim its way.
With ILP being taken over by the VO cult, uniting the different variants of nihilism, the scattered herd is converging upon a watering hole.
Predators gather.

If I am labelled negative it is by those nihilists who have inverted the positive to a negative; it is by those whom I negate, I expose, I belittle, I shame, using their own tactics against them.
I shame because I cannot slice throats, and throttle those who posture, like children, and play warrior and brag about their fights, showing how desperate they are to appear as something they are not.

If I am labelled negative it is in a world of sheltered, fake, "positivity", where all is one, valuable, good, equal, happy.
There is no greater lover of life, than I...but I refuse to ignore the pain, to accentuate the pleasures, because I want my experiences to be honest, authentic, real.

I follow nobody, because what I need is present all around me. I learn form others, I do not follow them, like a damn sheep.
Beware of those who say they have something to teach you.
Vanity, arrogance, exposes a secret weakness.
Beware of the ones who brag, and display, and prance, those the the ones with the deepest insecurities.
Beware of the ones who flatter, and comfort, giving you lies instead of hard truths, those are the ones who are manipulating you.

phoneutria wrote:

Jakob wrote:

There must be some reason why he writes more posts about VO than I do.

Jakob wrote:

Lyssa.

You think so??

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Hey, I thought it was Mo's task to analyze Satyr…
looks like pony's spider fingers are back and how they quicken..

What Fixed is doing to poor Pezer is cruel.

Everyone knows he is saying shite all, but sheltering him and keeping pezer like some tame pet, calling his unfinished sentences pretending to be deep and thinking, as "honest" - "suspension of judgement" as it were, will leave Pezer with a heavy price to pay later on.

Fooling around with phil. and tinkering - great, but fooling someone that way,,, aish...

Like telling a retard who came in last in the special Olympics that he is also a winner.
The "teacher" puts his own ego above the student's...he wants them to remain dependent, weak, stupid, feeding them false hope, fake respect, pretend agape.
Toughest thing about being a parent is telling your child the hard truth, when you nkow it will hurt him/her.
This douche-bag is a narcissist.
The scene of him practising his "partial arts" and this fuck is in his thirties, told me more than all the crap about VO that come's out of his mouth...then the tales of him beating up adversaries.
He's a common man-child, with a slightly above average mind.
Unfortunately there are more average and below average minds to make this moron feel smart.

Hey...remember shit-Stain?
Yeeeeah, I guess Arbiter, Lyssa and Magnus really tore him up.
Remember how he bragged and used those infantile methods to impress?
Too bad, for him, that it wasn't as effective on-line as it was trying to impress his moronic junky american "awesome" buddies, and the whores he has to bribe with drugs to bed.
We needed more vague references and insinuations to admire his 160 I.Q.

Good news: Fixed genuinely cares for certain kinds of relationships and wants to.

Bad news: He doesn't know the first thing about it.

Flattery and patting someone on is not going to work all the time and on all people and as an incorporatable experience, from which they can draw from their real inner fountains.

Diplomacy, trying not to hurt anyone and still getting the job done makes it a performance, not a relation.

Anthony Hopkins would have nothing further to do with the Hannibal character once the franchise was over. A good actor who values his craft also cultivates himself to the right degree of detachment.

Character and Personality.

Parasitical relationships are one-sided.
Usually there is a stronger allowing a weaker to feed, because it offers some small service.

Logic is re-cohering what has been "de-cohered"?
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Then he states, in case you did not notice..."I think I am striking on something very profound here"

What a pompous ass.

Obsessed?...shit this fuck is my new project, now that I've lost shit-Stain.

A pointless joke is an oxymoron.

Every humour betrays intentions and impulses.

Lyssa wrote:

Anthony Hopkins would have nothing further to do with the Hannibal character once the franchise was over. A good actor who values his craft also cultivates himself to the right degree of detachment.

Character and Personality.

Knowing when you've drained the source is wisdom.
It's hard to abandon a water source you've enjoyed drinking from to trek into the desert looking for a new one.

Every step will make you turn back, remembering the thing you left behind, and how much more you could have done with it, how much more pleasure you could have derived from it.
To let go, is harder than to grasp and hold.

If you want kind lies, go to a priest.
If you want cruel honesty, go to your father.
If you want it delivered with a soft touch, approaching a lie, go to a friend.

"How can a person "Describe the world as it is" meanwhile everything is changing and "in flux" as satyr admits? Contradiction."

I see no contradiction.

I exist, finite. My access to the world, my means of apprehending it, is finite. I live in the 'here' and the 'now'. I can never apprehend, or describe, the world as a whole, only the portion, the segment, the level, I'm in.

And, course the world is dynamic, but the pace which I move through the world is such I can, with a measure of accuracy, describe what is 'here', what is 'now' (we live in the midst of, are part of, a vast, constantly advancing, consistently paced, explosion...from my mayfly perspective, the world - if not static - certainly moves slowly, almost glacially).

And, even though I can't take in the whole of everything, there is a consistency to the world's workings allowing me to believe that, for example, if fire burns 'here', then fire burns 'there', a billion light years away, in the same way.

So: it really isn't a contradiction to say one should or can see the (changing) world 'as is'. The change is slow and consistent....the world is apprehendable, describable to any one with a mind to.

Satyr wrote:

If you want cruel honesty, go to your father.

That is very true, nobody speaks his perception of me as honestly as my dad.

Fixed wants Satyr to learn from him.




Yes, maybe Satyr should have attended some greek school to learn to call Aeschylus for the justification of f----ing some man's dignity just to feel the vigour of an erection… and then speak about Value of Valuing and the power of man and Human-archy….

No, that's not hypocritical at all.

Igor is bad and mama protects him?

WHERE DO YOU GET THE FACE TO SAY THAT, HYPOCRITE!!!


Lets continue to pat poor pezer making commodity whores of humans in the name of "direct democracy", saying, "we need to give people what they like - food, water", lol

Excellent.

People also like sex. Sexocracy will be the next video, no doubt.

Satyr needs to learn from you how to "predict trends" like that about human nature…

Or maybe you need to learn some simple things from Satyr.

Like being a man, no?
Like being able to with-stand harsh environments and not stooping to calling someone a religious-hater because they question motives and mindsets…

But no. Teach poor pezer how to do philosophy.

Be the superb role-model and teach him, when someone debates you, you put music videos to shame and silence them. As if those were things you could not have easily said to my face or his…


But who knows. Maybe Satyr needs to learn all that from you,

so savvy, the spectacular FC.

Who grows on people.

Arc, the quintessential darkness in which cockroaches thrive, wants to put conditions on my having my own brain…

umm, she is the one who is brain-f---ed with Xt. morals and giving knee-jerk reactions at the ever so slight mention of certain ta boos?!

But whatever.

Philosophy is not scientific enquiry, pattern valuations, categorizations, deducing laws, behaviours… no, not at all.
I mean, we can speak of black mind-sets, red-neck nazis, white whiggers, asians, but noooooooooooo, we can't ever say anything about the ssssshhh-mindset…

if anything, mum's the word for her.

Crossing the sexual lines, and playing both sides, can only mean that in whatever meeting that will take place, more than mind-fucking young men is on the agenda.

The powerless, are addicted to the power, dominating weakness offers.
Thy have none in themselves. they need to get it elsewhere.

I can't begin to speculate which other natural born follower, submissive "man" this guru has convinced to accept his "love", through the "rectum", telling him this is the only way to experience what it means to be Greek.
Gives mind-fucking an added dimension.

Tender words, fake appreciation "You are valuable. Let nobody tell you otherwise, sweetheart.", attentiveness, his physical exhibitions, displaying himself to the intended audience, a fashion sense, an artistic flair...'Look at me thrust my fists in the air; watch my hips"....claims of bravado, sexual prowess that has "beaten other up", and can defeat MMA fighters, wanting to be the pitcher and not the catcher....
I smell a closet Tinkerbell, ringing her wrists...calling the boys to him/her for supper.  

Disinterest in females, pretending he is above eroticism and is only dealing with reason, and focusing on young men, is one sign.

When a "man" has maintained a good enough erection to penetrate another male's anus, he cannot pretend he's not a fag anymore.

Igor instigates, and waits.
He gathers and hides in the corners to watch.
He prefers to be underestimated, because the other reveals more readily when he feel comfortable, superior.
I wonder if the JofA realizes how many posts he's directed towards KT.
The thread titles he posts in should offer her a hint.
Even if they were not intended for me, those who are here, came here because of me, and they stayed.

If I was a brute, how long would they have stayed?

The closet homo thinks he invented something new, and has magical powers, because he can exploit dumb fucks, and effete, weak spirits with praise, and kindness, and promises of power...as he feeds his own insatiable need for it.
Weak in his core, to his core, he goes to Greece to feel power, and returns a homo.

So desperate that he samples the Golden Age when decadence begins, and from the upper classes where debauchery and hedonism had began to set in, as they have in his "America as Rome" Judaism.
He is the child of excess, and thinks all existence is the same.
He's never really suffered.

Do you think Jesus of Nazareth was a closet homosexual?
Never married, he gathered young men, taking them away from family and potential marriage, and preached God, as the big penis in the sky, and how to marry him, later to become the christian practice of marrying God through Church.
Look at how many pedophiles and homosexuals Catholicism attracted.

To need men to submit and stay submissive, is an indication.
Using erotic seduction, is an indication.
Universal love, universal value, universal pleasure....very erotic.

Instead of hiding a family, is the church hiding his homosexuality?

When someone here told me FC was a bi, you know I said it was prob. a fiction he was writing and not real.
When 'Mannequin' in the past came here saying the only future option is homosexuality or call it homo-agape, because of the lack of decent females… the condition of the world was going to hell, I remember telling him here, an artist uses whatever material and tries to mould it the best he can.
Of course the whole complication of divorce laws are making this difficult.

The second best thing is to adopt a child and make him/her a good individual and keep the values upright, even if the future is going downhill.

Even at your lowest point, if you are a flame, you are always going to burn upright.

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Even if you lost everything, isn't it enough you won your character?

My personae is never at risk; my character is never totally revealed.
I know who I am and why.
What I don't know and must evaluate, is how others see me, and why.
I place myself in the environment, and determine the judgment.
The direct method, relying on honesty and trust, is not enough for me who knows of human nature.
If I belittle myself, and act the fool, it is to see.

When I said, "Even if you lost everything, isn't it enough you won your character?", I meant a generalized you, not you Satyr.

Lyssa wrote:

When I said, "Even if you lost everything, isn't it enough you won your character?", I meant a generalized you, not you Satyr.

I know...and, as I am prone to do, I take a lead and use it as a reason to speak my mind.

I think Jakob is actually dangerous.

He's one of those who will prey on people who aren't as smart and manipulate them in a way that is only good for himself and not for the ones who interact with him.  He sucks their energy and loves for them to look up to him in a really unhealthy way.

Arditezza wrote:

I think Jakob is actually dangerous.

He's one of those who will prey on people who aren't as smart and manipulate them in a way that is only good for himself and not for the ones who interact with him.  He sucks their energy and loves for them to look up to him in a really unhealthy way.

Stereotypes are not stereotypes because they are untrue.
The homo stuff closed the circle.
Decadence, the Semite selling pleasant words, selling pleasure, hedonism; his bait.
Make them feel good, make them feel important, valuable, relevant.
Typical marketing ploys.
Sell air, words, abstractions, as if they are worth gold - they are doing this on Wallsteet right now.
Bankers - userers.
Selling dreams.
Genes to Memes.

Arditezza wrote:

I think Jakob is actually dangerous.

He's one of those who will prey on people who aren't as smart and manipulate them in a way that is only good for himself and not for the ones who interact with him.  He sucks their energy and loves for them to look up to him in a really unhealthy way.

What do you consider a good dangerous then?

Who really knows?

I've had a lot of accusations thrown at me too. I've had death threats. I've had stalkers. Random nameless losers accused me of random bullshit. Most people don't know me, and I want to keep it that way. I don't want to know most of you, personally. This medium through the internet is enough. Most online cannot demonstrate and offer good, powerful, or insightful philosophy. And for the few that can, I appreciate and respect an intelligent mind. For those with a higher calibur mind, I emplore them to raise the bar and compete, offer higher judgments and deeper analysis into life and existence.

Libel, slander, rumors, and lies can really tarnish a persona, and detract from the engagement of philosophy.

Online, the most you should want to trust from others, are purely the ideas first. What is being said, why, and how intelligent is the mind presenting such ideas?

If the mind is lowly, then more lowliness should be expected. A lowly, stupid, miserable person, a low intellect can ONLY attack a superior, higher mind through libel, slander, threats, and lies. That's all it has. Because it will never, magically, become intelligent, and certainly not within a lifetime.

Thus the base mentality must pull all else down to its lowly level. That is how a lower mind only hopes, and can, "beat" a higher mind.

But of course, the ideas do not die. Just because a person is beaten physically, doesn't mean that the thoughts, words, and ideas, are all of a sudden erased.

Instead it means that the living, and surviving, can usurp those ideas, and present them as if they were his/her own. Without defense from their original authors.


But that's human history. Much of what anybody will ever say, are also echoes of the distant past.


How much and how many of the Wisest Ancients speak through you???