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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyFri Sep 29, 2017 4:33 pm

To emphasize #12, I will explain it further.

A degenerate, moron, disapproves of the man who can rally some to bear weapons and apply their might upon the masses....but the imbecile also disproves of the man who is right about nuclear energy, and can produce cheaper electricity, or weapons that can then be sued to dominate the imbecile who is too much of a coward, or lacks the talent,t o rally other to bear arms, and too must of an idiot to ever understand world to a level that can give him the might to dominate imbeciles like him...but is all for the collective to apply their dominance on both, based on a moral imperative he refuses to explain or understand, or bring it down to earth, fearing his idiocy will become apparent, and because he presupposes it as being self-evident.....that, in fact, the majority OUGHT, to dominate the individual, no matter his superior talent, and insight into nature.
This Abrahamism he considers a progress, and philosophy, when it is religion.

He says, again...
Might is Right, whether the might is by one, or a few, is wrong, because the minority cannot impsoe its will on a majority.....and
Right is Might, is also wrong, because the intelligent cannot dominate the imbecile, nor take advantage of the reatard....
But...
Might is Right only when the majority holds the might and imposes it upon both strong/talented individual, or minority, and/or upon the superior mind that has a superior judgment.

See, the Might is Right is only 'good' in the Abrahamic sense: only when it is the majority imposing it...but how the majority imposes it, or agrees, or what criteria it uses to vote and judge, is irrelevant, because there is no objective reality...so the majority decides, judges, emotionally, subjectiviely, or by making concessions to the weakest, not the strongest, and the moronic, not the intelligent.
Why?
Morality.
The morality of the majority vote.
Morality is central in this psychosis.Salve, herd, Abrahamic morality.
Crypto-Christianity, masking as progressive, modern democratic ethos.
Not the superior minority, but the most inferior minority ought to determine the standard of the compromise.
The mind of a Marxist that has convinced itself it has overcome Abrahamic herd morality.
 
The physically superior OUGHT to submit to the weakest...and the intellectually superior OUGHT to serve the inferior.
Being able to impose your will upon the feeble, is wrong....and being able to outperforms the idiotic, with a superior understanding of world, is also wrong.
What is RIGHT is the feeble majority imposing their rights over the strongest and the genius.
Now that is convenient.
Hell I can sign up to that form of subjectivity, 'cause it has no costs.
It's all benefits.
I can be as stupid and weak as I want, and not give a shit about it.
it's not the colelctive imposing its will upon the individual, because the individual IS part of the collective.
Not you us and them...but US....like the concept of god and how his love is not authoritarian, because we are god.  
It's about denying self, and identifying with the collective.  
We are the Borg.

"We are the Borg..." we are Humanity, as it is defined by the collective...."....lower your shields and surrender your ship...." lower your defences, your ego, and submit your mind/body "We will add your biological..." ...genes...."...and technological...." ....memes... "...distinctiveness, to the collective." We will assimilate you like a cell into a SuperOrganism (ONE GOD, Ideal) = Humanity.
Sexless, Raceless...no individual distinctness, no past to divide...a uniformity of nothings - worker ants, a beehive-mind.
Post-Modernity...Critical Theory.

How does the resident moron attempt to lower our shields?
Shame, juvenile mind-games of divide and conquer, of seeding doubt and discord....Ha.....
We are the Borg.....we identify with our collective, numerical, quantities, and our work/service contributing to its well-being.

Bravo!!!
This is what I call real philosophy!!!
Ha!!
I fuckin' luv the internets!
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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyFri Sep 29, 2017 5:12 pm

Degenerate Rule #13
Complexity is how to excuse self, and how to reduce all to your level of idiocy.
Complexity postpones judgment indefinitely, either out of fear of being discovered as being an idiot, or out of fear of judging in accordance to evidence.
Degenerate refuses to come to a conclusion, because things are too complicated, or new data will, one day, contradict what is considered probable.
This is particularly useful when evading rational deductions about what threatens the degenerates sanity and its sense of self.
Unable to accept what is surmounting evidence, it uses complexity to assume a hidden truth that will usurp all theories that scare the shit out of it.
it automatically assumes that god is hidden, or the desirable 'truth' is immanent...on its way of being discovered.
It keeps faith, and resists reasoning temptation - it sacrifices reason to desire, to need.
Like Penelope, she remains faithful to her missing king Odysseus, refusing all suitors...unlike Penelope she has never known her ideal mate...but she knows he's out there, somewhere, on his way into her presence.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyFri Sep 29, 2017 6:08 pm

Degenerates convince themselves that the only system where man places himself beneath the rule of law is the all-inclusive Democratic one.
With no knowledge of history, he is ignorant as to what system preceded Democracy and made it possible, as a necessary concession, produces my the success of the system before - Timocracy.

Democracy itself, after those early years, has never, ever, been practiced as it is written in theory.
The best do not rise to the top, in Democracy, but only he most needy and vile and guileful, those who can exploit the stupidity of the masses, while preaching to them the myth that all are equal, or that there is no such thing as human nature...lust as marketing, as with politics, manipulate human nature, the human species, while selling to the masses the idea that all is subjective and due to upbringing - flattering, cajoling, fooling as many dolts as possible.
The US is no Democracy to be emulated.
It is a plutocracy....to say the least insulting thing about it.
What lies behind it is the control of the many by a few who with might and by being right, they exploit ignorance and feebleness, to sell equality, and practice elitism.
In the US things are even more vile because those in real power have motives beyond the control and exploitation of the idiots in the US.
There the dis-ease of Nihilism is used to dumb-down - presented as an ideal.

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Degenerate Rule #14
When threatened by another's mind - either by its intelligence, or the ideas coming from it, always fall back on the insinuation that you are happier than it is.
An animal is always easiest to please.
A chimpanzee only requires companionship, food, water, trees to swing from and it is perfectly content.
A human, on the other hand, would not be content with only those things.
The simpler the mind, the more base its needs are.
The more base its needs are, the easier it is to be happy.

Having no interests outside food, drink, sex, playing games, is what a manimal needs.
It's all it needs.
To whatever degree a chimpanzee understands a human, or a manimal understands its superior, it can feel proud of being so easily satisfied, but ti mistakes this ease as something having to do with its superior quality, when it has to do with its inferiority.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyFri Sep 29, 2017 6:54 pm

Degenerate thinks that the collective will of the people can shape reality to accommodate it.
This is slightly less pathetic than the moron who believes an individual's will can alter reality, simply by thinking it, by declaring it, by using symbols/words.
For such creatures their desperation and sense of insecurity, makes them compensate by hyper inflating their powers of mind.
It now becomes an organ that can commune with the world, which is also mind, internally.
The mind being part of the universal mind i.e. God, can alter reality through coercion, seduction, manipulation, applying will.
The mind need no convert abstraction to action, with uncertain results, but can commune with world, internally, willing it into existence.

The other kind of moron thinks the same is possible, but only by a collective effort - it is slightly less arrogant than the narcissistic dumb-ass.
It believes if mankind joins their wills and collectively think, declare, things into existence, that the world will bend to this will.
It denies an objective world, so the notion of inter-subjectivity implies exactly that.
if only each subjectivity, compromising, to join forces with the collective subjectivity of humanity, it can alter reality by thinking it - changing their collective perspective, their collective attitudes.
If they decide to make race meaningless, and sex a matter of personal choice, then world will adapt to this demand.

The narcissistic type thinks the same thing, only he disagrees with the compromising part.
He wants to impose his personal will, and integrate others to participate into a collectivity, a cult.

Both are fucked-up, but one is more arrogant than the other.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptySat Sep 30, 2017 6:35 am

Any ideology, dogma, that contradicts nature, reality, must impose a rule of law, based on a lie.
Democracy, in the US, imposes a rule of law founded on a a lie that "all men are created equal".
We can debate over what the founding father means by that double lie, that men are "created" and that they are crated equal, but what is not debatable is that may degenerates take it to mean that literally, all humans are born with the same potentials.
This lie comes in conflict with Evolution Theory and its natural selection methods.
If the average moron wishes to prove that all men are born so, in contradiction to all other life, then he has yet to make a case for it.
If it were so, and extended to include all species, then this lie would mean all species are 'correctable' with proper upbringing. If on the other hand, he wants to imply that man is a social case, straight out of the bible, then again he must prove and argue this nonsensical point.
But the modern degenerate feeling how he's accepting a lie, and enforcing it as a law where all ought to pretend it is truth has no argument to stand on that does not expose the depths of his idiocy and depravity, so he repeats the lie, hoping that with repetition it will become true.
The underlying Democracy lie implies a reality where man is born a clean slate (tabula rasa), and only acquires behavior during his upbringing.
born a clean slate his family and society writes the code that will determine his later potentials and actions.
A very powerful, empowering lie, for a mind desperate to correct the world of its woes, and to erase his own genetic limitations.
The degree the ideal comes into conflict with reality, determines its nihilism, and the size of the lie to cover up all expected paradoxes and the contradictions it will produce.

The lie has already exposed itself in the United States. Affirmative action has failed to bring about parity in performance, between the races, and no mount of blaming the systemic bigotry for this failure can correct it...just as the lie of pay inequity, between men and women can sustain itself, when a woman choosing to acquire a degree in dance therapy demands to be paid the same as a man who enters the mines, risking his life to mine coal, or having chosen to get a degree in dance, demands to be paid the same as a man who studies engineering.
If employers were paying woman .70 cents to the dollar, then why would they not only hire women to cut down on their costs? In what alternate universe would an employer consciously choose to not cut its profit margin and make more money, just to keep females down?
Only in the minds of degenerate imbeciles where all contradictions to their naive idiocy has to be blamed on a nefarious other.
But the lie implies that no matter what work you choose to do, you OUGHT to be paid the same...in other words Communism.

A lie can only hold a mediocre mind on course if it is believed.
A christian has no innate goodness in him. He remains disciplined to the rules of what is defined as 'good' only under a threat and a promise....otherwise he would be killing thieving, raping.
It is why he does not trust non-believers.
But even under the severity of punishment he still fails to abide by the rules he has adopted...so weekly he must beg for forgiveness for his consistent, predictable failures.
This is the madness of trying to live in accordance to a ideology, or dogma, which is contrary to reality.
When you are trying to 'correct' the world and bring about a 'better one'.

Democracy was never practiced as it was in theory, and it never will....because what it proposes is not in accordance with nature. It is an imposed mythology, hoping to cope with nature's indifference.
No ideology, with any degree of nihilistic contradiction to the real, has to construct a popular myth, a lie.
The lie of Modern western Democracies is that all men are raised to become unequal, or to become men at all.
if you follow the lie to its own 'logical conclusions' it exposes itself in absurdity.
Modern leis are currently being exposed with this transsexual movement.
From the all races are the same, to men women are the same, to homosexuals are no different than heterosexuals, we have come to individuals born in the 'wrong' body.
Nature's error must be corrected.
The absurdity that sex is learned, exposes the subtle lies in race and sexual modern mythologies, because it is a logical continuance, based on the arguments used to promote racial and sexual uniformity.
A liar has to invent larger and more intricate lies to cover his previous ones, until the entire edifice becomes too large for him to support. He is, in time, exposed as the hypocrite and liar that he is.
This is what is occurring now, in the west.
After decades of bullshyte, from the sixties, especially, onward, we have come to the height of insanity in the present identity crisis.

This is how a meme builds itself around a first, unproven, presumption, remaining self-consistent, logical within itself,, but fabricating a linguistic lie, that has to be constantly supported and excused.
Whenever it is exposed it must find the perpetrator, the reasons, in some other - an enemy, an evildoer, or it must preempt failure by fabricating excuses to be applied when the inevitable happens, or preempt criticism by attacking the threat with accusations that apply to itself.

So, hatred of life, of self, of world, will express a defensiveness against those who threaten to expose it, by accusing them of hatred, hoping to disarm them of this insight, this cut in their thin skin.



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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptySat Sep 30, 2017 7:36 am

The concept of a 'noble lie', or a necessary myth to preserve social peace and stability, is at the heart of the matter.
We can use the same argument to justify Abrahamic mythologies, lending their support to the masses who cannot endure existence without them.
But philosophy is not politic and it certainly is not religion. Philosophy concerns itself not with what is useful, or that promotes a particular state, but with what is true.
This truth is, more often than not, threatening, destabilizing, insulting, to all human conceptions or preferred ideal states.
A philosopher is not, or ought not, to be swayed by emotion or utility, or what promotes his comfort. he is concerned with clarity.
This is why only a few can really be philosophers, and not simply declare themselves such spirits.
The majority come to philosophy looking for solutions, comforting lies, a way out of dilemmas, or expecting to find empowering insights.
Seeing the world as it is does offer the possibility of empowering self, in relation to those who cannot see, or refuse to accept what they do see, but this is not guaranteed, because those who can bear to look and then to accept what they see, cannot automatically apply or use it, nor is it an automatic conclusion that they would choose to do so.
To know, and understand offers the possibility, but it does not immediately imply its utility and application.
For example, knowing how nuclear fusion works, does not immediately mean the choice of whether to use it to produce cheap energy, or to construct weapons to threatens others, or to leave the knowledge unused, is guaranteed...no more than it is guaranteed that the mental talents of such insights can automatically accompanied with the physical talents to apply them.

Philosophy only explores world, not to comfort self, or to be used for some other goal.
What one does with philosophical insights is a different issue from philosophical insight itself.

The common dolt uses himself/herself as the standard to evaluate others....but he does it in a naive, infantile manner, confusing empathy for sympathy - he then proceeds to understands the motives of others, basing it on his own.
When he thinks of philosophy he approaches it with his own motives in mind - to self-deceive, to change the world, to resolve a personal dilemma, to comfort self, to empower self, to dominate others etc., he then assumes that this is the focus of [philosophy and not a collateral effect, a potential the discipline offers as a side-matter.
For the degenerate the side-effect, the utility is the focus of philosophy, and his own motives become philosophical intentions.
With this naive assumption the typical degenerate, modern, takes it for granted that the universe is positively inclined towards his needs and desires, and that philosophy can only expose him to a world that offers him advantages, or provides insights to gratify his needs and desires.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptySat Sep 30, 2017 5:23 pm

Degenerate interest all interest on him a flattery.
He assumes the other obsesses over him, in particular, even if there is no bossiness but only interest and it isn't he, in particular, by he as a type.

We can imagine a cow accusing the scientist studying bovine behaviour of obsessing over her, like most females think any male paying her attention is because of her, in specific, and not her as a member of a sex, or even an attractive example of one.
All interest in the degenerate, will be explained by him/her in the most flattering ways.
It is he, as specifically him, as unique, that is drawing the attention, rather than he, as a member of a type, and so it is the other obsessed with him, in particular, which is receiving responses, or causing reactions.
We can only imagine what a crazy person thinks of the doctor's studying his specific type of insanity.

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Degenerates place themselves and other humans on an existential pedestal.
Only man can choose to identify with whatever he so desires, or to deny reality, or is so complex as to defy understanding.
Is mystical, mystifying, incomprehensible, to a point where nothing can ever be said about a hypothetical human, but only that he is human...a name with no specific definition.
It can mean anything.

With such a high, exceptional, supernatural, position humans can declare themselves to be anything.
One can choose to identify with a man trapped in a female's body, another as the one true Messiah, or the the rightful heir of a great famous iconic individual, another with someone who has solved the riddle of everything, another as an eternal entity that has gone and returned from hell.
Anything goes, for a supernatural; creature, such as man, because he is beyond comprehension, he cannot be defined by nature, and he evades the limitations of an objective reality.....he is self-creating, subjectivity, his own god.
A god that can only create his reality by accumulating supporters, followers, those who are coerced, manipulated, fooled, into lending their own godly energy to a collective alternate reality.
a shared,a greed upon reality where words change meaning, when the observed can be interpreted in any way, where the insights of past thinkers can be interpreted in whatever way is convenient to the group.
This is the power of the collective inter-subjective, will to power.
Their unified mental energies alter space/time, their collective words, sung in harmony, echo in existence, shattering and recreating it.
They are their own sovereignty, and the one who dominates the clan of dim-wits is a god among gods, or demi-gods.
Who but a full blown god would know the occult meaning of symbols, the secret of realities malleability, to the force of will?
Who can create the world in his image, with fully and completely appreciates the power of his words, and the sacred symbols of power?
Do you not believe?
Then you are unworthy of such gifts.

If only, the meeker version of this inanity, whispers...if only a mutual agreement can guide the magical projections of reality creation, so that nobody is hurt, and we prevent conflicts of interest.
If only instead of one god, we can have many little gods, or a collectivity AS god.
A singularity of multiplicity.
Then we can all alter existence with our declarations of preference, and all can be included in the creation process.
Not a single voice, not a choir directed by a maestro...but a choir where all can take center stage and sing the words of power, holding up the symbols of magic, that will change reality, shaping it to a collective will.
How beautiful a thought-out worlds would be?
A shared fantasy.
A dream we all dream together.

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Internal dialogue of a Psychotic Degenerate

When I walk through the world, every bird is singing to me, every voice repeats my thoughts, every event validates my expectations.
I am never defeated. Every setback is a hidden victory.
All words echo my beliefs.
All songs vibrate to the rhythms of my soul.
It's as if I am creating reality as I notice it appearing, before my divine eyes.
Only evil resists my sacred goodness.
Only the unworthy refuse my genius.
I am in communion with the great spirits that were ever born, that are born or will ever be born.
Who, but the blind, cannot see this about me?
Who but the envious cannot accept what they cannot deny seeing?

Nothing resists my will. I am wonderful.
My failures are due to my, brilliant, goodness.
I respect others too much.
I love too much.
I am far too generous with my genius. I give, fat to much, to those who cannot see my greatness, or pretend not to see, out of spite.
Everything is a validation of my opinion of myself.
When I am accused and ridiculed, it validates my grandeur.

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Internal dialogue of a Psychotic Degenerate
How can this be true when it is so vile, so hurtful, so insulting?
Did anyone ask me before this became truth, or was even considered as a potential one?

Who is this one man, or group, to tell us, what is fact?
Have not the majority always been correct about facts?
Have they not guided mankind with their wisdom, with their conceptual agreements?
Who benefits form this theory?
Not I, not we...so he who speaks of it.
A single man....a small group?
Who are they to tell us what is fact?
Deny, deny, deny...repeat.
No evidence, no arguments except our collective ridicule, our cynical dismissals, our rejections, and our repeating declarations.
Did they take our interests into consideration before they made such insulting conclusions?
As long as there is one of us hurt by a theory, a hypothesis, it ought to be silenced, not spoken of.
What solution is there to this?
None?
Then why speak of it, when you cannot be corrected?
Why describe the world as it is, when ti cannot be changed?
Why not keep it to yourself and allow the positive lie to be repeated?
Who is hurt by it?

What motive lies behind such controversial positions?
I have a motive to lie to myself, and to others, but what motive lies behind speaking the truth?
Fear...yes, fear.
The same fear that keeps me from thinking beyond the lie.
My fear must be his fear...because we, despite being the same, are different.

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Degenerate imbeciles always confuse the validity of a theory, for its possible application.
They will deny nuclear fusion, if they could, on the basis that it may be used as a weapon to kill, or dominate others.
This is the criterion they use to determine what ought to be admitted and what ought to be denied, to the death, no matter what.
It's always the possible application of a theory, that must be taken into account before one admits to its superiority.
Criteria are always emotional.
Will it benefit, or will it hurt someone....indirectly implying themselves, because no matter how many time they repeat it and pretend otherwise, their altruism is self-serving.
To that which threatens their well-being they will admit to nothing, will apply the strictest skepticism, whereas to whatever flatters them, or is innocuous they will believe in, no matter how flimsy the reasoning and the evidence is, in its support.
It is what drives the same crowds of nit-wits that got taken by the fairy-tale of Abrahamic spirituality, to fall for its secular form, in Marxism, and post-modernity.  
What scares them, or goes against their interests, they will be cynical unconvinced, they will postpone judgment, admit to lacking all the information to come to a conclusion....but to what flatters and makes them feel good, the most idiotic theory will suffice to consider as possible.

To cover their methods, and to justify them to themselves, they will accuse all of practicing the same self-serving, hypocrisy..Because they always surround themselves with their own kind, this is most often the case...validating their methodology.
Retards repeating back retards, in a inter-subjective echo chamber.

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Degenerate retards love to make it all personal...because they cannot think objectively.
For them subjectivity is a safety zone they run to when the world becomes harsh and dark and uncertain.
In the personal they seek the emotional advantage...pulling at the heart strings, triggering angry reactions, feeling powerful when they accomplish the feat.
What's left to a moron, protected from the big bad world by a system that it served and continues to serve vigorously,other than to affect something more superior, someone above its intellectual grade; to force an emotional reaction.
When they do not get one, they imagine it boiling beneath the surface.

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The strategy is quite simple, and this is why simpletons use it.
It also demands a certain shamelessness, born of being degenerate.

It goes like this...

1- Make an outlandish, hyperbolic, over the top, claim. One that might intimidate the majority. Something self-aggrandizing, self-flattering like:
"I have a solution to everything"
or
"I can get any female I want"
or
"I have an I.Q. of 160"
or
" I am a MENSA member"
or
"I am the only man that deserves sex"
or
"Have read Heraclitus in the original Greek" (this is more of a regional hyperbole because in Greece it is not that impressive, just as reading Nietzsche in the original German is not impressive in Germanic nations)
or
"I have found the solution to mortality"
Whatever self-flatters, invites attention, and is intellectually and/or physically intimidating enough for the average, the mediocre masses.
You know, something so insanely over the top, that it makes some gullible, inexperienced, dumb, twats question their own judgments.
Something impressive to the feminine, the naive, the infantile.


2- If you receive a challenge to your outlandish declaration run for cover into more outlandishness... like referring to obscure intellectuals, which you've hypothetically understood and that are superior to anything popular, common, mainstream, which you've also failed to prove you've understood.
This gets rid of the second tier thinkers, and those who cannot be bothered to go further.
Those who have the brains but come to philosophy just as a hobby, seeing no greater consequences, ideals...no connections beyond mind-candy.


3- Retreat into word-games, patronizing insinuations, having no understanding of what you claimed you did, to challenge the skeptics.
This phase is the "saving face" phase, or the "limiting the cost" to your original claim.
Liker not signing a check you wrote out with a 6 digit number your arse cannot cover.
This is the defensive phase... the trying to reduce the cost of your original mistake.


4- The shameless ones, those who have no internal control no sense of pride, but find it only in others, will only care if it affects the majority, or to what degree their bullshyte has an effect.
There is no internal standard to feel ashamed towards, so they can only be embarrassed if the majority sees what hypocrites and liars they are.
This is the defense mechanism of stupidity and decadence.
With no connection to past/nature all that matters is how many you can convince...so lying hypocrisy,m duplicity is not shameful unless you are exposed.
This is where mitigating the costs of your original mistake comes into effect.
The exposed liar and hypocrite, has to convince the audience, or as many of them as possible, that what happened was the reverse of what he experienced.
Then he adjusts his thinking as if he had already said that.
This is the most crucial phase for the Modern bullshyte artist.
Having no other motive than impressing others, he must ave face, his reputation, in their minds.
He feels on sense of shame for having lied to others and himself, because seeing elf and world is not his motive.
Impressing is.
This is the phase of redefining history...to reduce the impact of the original bad judgment.


5- Having been exposed as a liar and hypocrite, a fake, then retreat to short responses, imagery, insinuating what your words failed to do: impress, pass-on an image of you you ant the majority to believe.
This is the defeated stage.
All that its left is to rescue, what you can, from the mistake you made.
At this point you can take risks...having little to lose.
So use laconic remarks, feigning indifference, or imagery, funny quips, cynical feedback, to imply what, again, you cannot prove, and is beyond you.
At this point you are preaching to the chore, or those on your level and below, because those who saw, who know, will laugh at your antics.
Pandering to the majority is what a coward and simpleton does.
If only he can convince most of them, he will be rescued form his own stupidity.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 02, 2017 12:50 pm

Using emotionally constructed rules, laws, meant to protect the feeble, the insecure, the hypocritical, the cowardly, from the big, bad, world, to enable mass participation - quantity over quality.
All-inclusion....aiming at popularity.

The degenerate will use strict rule abiding excuses, to legitimize its idiocy, and to hide its liability o argue against a position that threatens its well-being, or insults it, or terrifies it.
It will attempt to sound all formal, and matter-of-fact, and aloof, while using an emotional criterion to silence, or to drive away what is triggering bad emotions in its delicate psyche.

The majority will cheer, because it is being protected from those who can expose their idiocy, cowardice, and hypocrisy, allowing them to pretend to be anything, without fearing being exposed, or ridiculed, ending all debates with the usual 'let's agree to disagree' where the status quo is established, and guaranteed.

The Modern, degenerate imbecile can only comprehend debate as the sharing of any subjective, personal, convictions, no matter how idiotic, absurd, baseless, where all humored and tolerated, that inevitably ends all exchanges of insanity with the agreement to disagree....a cule de sac of intellectual discourse.
because if there is no communal agreement, no flattery, no comforting hopeful lie, no absolute certainty and no solution to what is being exchanged, then there can be no conclusion.
An open ended acceptance of ignorance and stupidity, where all are invited to the party.
It's nothing more than a pretense, a venting of internal anxieties and self-doubts,a t the conclusion of which the moron feels vindicated when no matter how absurd and infantile its thinking might be, how void of reason, and substance ti might be, that no final conclusion can ever threaten it, or expose the moron as what it is....an retarded individual, or one that got the short end of the genetic stick.

Where elitism is bad, and driving anybody out is bad, all are welcomed, and when all come, the entire event is lowered to the lowest-common-denominator.

I've used this example before, but it bears repeating.
Invite a bunch of people to political or philosophy party, at random....with no discriminating criteria.
all are welcomed, including children, schizophrenics, imbeciles, ignoramuses...etc.
How long, do you figure, it will take before the child, or the retard, makes himself the center of attention, or forces the group to accommodate him/her, reducing the entire thing to an event that must accommodate the weakest participant.
Or think of the run, where the rules are that nobody is left behind.
All are welcomed to participate.
Marathon runners, cripples, toddlers, track and field stars, football players, paraplegics etc.
The only two unifying rules are that nobody, nobody is to be excluded, and that all are welcomed.

How long before the run becomes a crawl?
Which athlete would want to participate in that, except for fun?


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There's no possibility for a serious discussion with a coward, a hypocrite and an idiot, not even when he's not involved but is present.
Like trying to have an adult conversation with a child in the room, or with a schizophrenic, insane madman present.

The conservation is always about conversations. Talk about talking, or the individuals talking, the personality behind the topics...or, there are no opinions being presented, but only opinions about opinions.
An endless exchange of where you stand, not in relation to world, but in relation to someone else, a proxy, and his relation to world.  
Then there's the constant attempt to reduce it all to a joke, a prank, a game, when what is being said cannot be contradicted - derailment.
Clowns are relentless cynics, and joksters.
Once they realize they cannot compete, they want to make it all a play-fight, so that they will not get hurt, and their fighting abilities will not expose their feebleness and absence of talent.
Tickling commences, giggling...lol's, smart-ass remarks off-topic, insinuating trash-talking, innuendos meant to get the other angry and ion doing so find self-esteem in the act, when you cannot compete head-to-head.

The only response would adjust the method.
Start play-fighting, but where they slap, you punch, and then laugh as if it were not meant to hurt.

Like when you call another's mom a whore, and when he is ready to assault you, you claim it was meant in jest, even if all know that his mother is, a whore.
Controversial comedians use this method.
On-Stage they speak their mind, and contradict the audience's established myths and delusions, making them explode in releases of nervous energy...but in "serious" interviews that distance themselves form the act, and play the good, well-behaved, entirely indoctrinated average guy who has a knack for kiddin-around.

In sophisticated, larger brained species, play-fighting establishes hierarchies, without drawing blood.
It's a light, testing, teasing, triggering, of one another's potentials.
Females use it to validate their judgments of males.
Nagging, bitching, insulting, testing the man's resolve and the line that is to be crossed before she gets what is coming.
How much does he want her?
How manly is he, or is he a push-over?
Where's the stallion's soft underbelly, to help her direct him with heal nudges, near the scrotum?

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The degenerate holds onto his definitions of words because they help him feel superior to the imbeciles who first defined the words for him.
For example, he refuses to consider a different definition of 'god' or 'self' or "I", or 'love' other than the one given to him, and that feels good. He then holds onto it as evidence of his advancement, when he finally rejects this juvenile definition....replacing it with no other.

We must understand the process of co-dependency.
The idiot grows-up accepting certain concepts, and then realizes they were bulslhyte, but instead of correcting the concepts he feels pride in denouncing them altogether, as evidence of his progress, his maturity.
So, whatever way his retarded family defined 'god' or 'self' for him, will be carried with him for his entire life...and no matter what better definition he comes across he will never let go of it.

He's lost all confidence in words, and his own judgment to determine a better from a pathetically juvenile definition, so he settles for denouncing all words as meaningless.
Even when provided with a definition of language, and when symbols/words are shown as mediums, and even if these words are connected to the world, he will reject them, because he is now completely invested in cynical denial.
This is more true for degenerate nihilists who were raised on Abrahamic delusions, built on words with no meaning, and then became seduced by Marxism, which did the same.
To give them a more rational down to earth, definition of 'god' and of 'self' and of 'love' and 'morality' will not be met with gratitude but with cynical animosity, feigning interest so as to ridicule.
Such a creature is beyond hope.
His entire life was based on a lie, probably drug induced euphoria, where some grave mistakes were made, and later to justify his entire life's lost cause, he denounces all as empty, wanting to use words only for pleasure, and for mundane babbling.
But such a decrepit creature does not stay home to wallow in his misery...he wants to bring the entire world down with him...so that nobody will fail to fall into the same infantile, transparent tricks that convinced his gullible, impressionable arse, to sacrifice and to suffer great turmoil.

Even when you bring concepts down to earth, by connecting words, that floated on the idealistic air, to real phenomena, behaviors, actions, he will not accept.
How could he?
That would require a great show of courage....that admits that his entire life was based on a mistake created by empty words, given to him by people he trusted.
Symbols/words constructing metaphors he took literally, that had no substance, because they were connected to nothing but abstractions, emotions, ideals that only existed in the mind of those who passed them on to him.
We see it happening on ILP.
But his vengeance is only directed towards those who do connect symbols/words to the earth, that do connect the noumenon to the phenomenon, that do connect abstractions to (inter)actions.
Those like him, he will let be...because he enjoys the idea that they too will become like him, when they are old and washed-up.
He only despises those that will not.

He cannot accept any definition because that would have to go through him admitting that his entire life was lived in a drug induced trance, and that he was simple and weak-willed and naive.
He went from one narcotic to another, never once questioning the lies he swallowed-up like a hungry, desperate, birdbrain.

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Here we see a classic conflict between Orthodox religious Abrahamism, contradicting secular Abrahasmism, or nihilism (Marxism, humanism), by Political Abrahamism - Zionism.

The Zionist wants to return to a pre-Judaism tribal identity, now that they have acquired power by whining, by being the world eternal victims. they want to become just Semites, as they were before Judaism was invented to invert everything.
Ashkenazim Semites prefer their previous tribal identity, now that they have a state.

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Unable to break free from his own subjective self-serving mental limitations, the degenerate uses himself as a model to understand others.
He assumes that because he lives in his own private reality, constructed with ideas the comfort and flatter him, that all opinions are similarly fabricated, always assuming as being the motive behind/beneath every theory, every opinion.
Most often he is correct, because he belongs to a majority, of mediocre and sub-mediocre minds who cannot even imagine what is not on their level.

The ability to dislodge self-interests from perceptions is alien to such creatures.
This is how they conclude that all opinions are equally subjective.

If all perspectives are corrupted by emotion and self-interest then there can be no superior opinion, besides the stating of the mundane.
With no objectivity all is reduced to the level of mundane subjectivity, expressing self-serving comforting positions, and simple expressions of personal taste.

The degenerate intuitively knows that he cannot be anything other than self-comforting and self-flattering, and self-serving, so he tries to justify his own inadequacy with a general cynical declaration, which is also self-comforting and self-serving, that nobody can be more detached from his observations than himself and those he's become accustomed to.

I would assume that a lair thinks all are liars, like himself, and a thief that all are thieves...and the christian that all would rape and kill without the carrot, stick of a monotheistic totalitarian God.
This is why he does not trust non-believers.

The irony is his own subjectivity is what limits him, while he places the irony outside himself, upon the other who fails to abide by his mistaken understandings.
Irony being another term for a paradox - a disagreement between ideals and actions.
Degenerates prefer being trapped in their own paradoxes, unloading their errors in judgments that produce them upon the other.
Their own wrong opinions are never challenged, because the error is always on the other, creating the paradox.
Paradoxical description of the Christian mono-God is resolved by an evil Satan, some devilish otherness, the failure of Marxism is always blamed on some evil capitalist.
The theory, the ideal, the subjectivity is never wrong, and therefore it never challenges itself, the subjectivity position never questioned...it is always some other.
So if I make a judgment about someone and his actions and words contradict my judgment, it isn't my judgment that should be adjusted, or change, but the other who contradicts himself, or himself as I think he is.
Of course this is also a possibility in a world where actions rarely agree with stated ideals, but the degenerate is cynical, so he assumes this is the normal state, the inevitable state of things, judging by using himself as the example.

Degenerate "logic" goes like this:
There is no objective way to determine which subjective opinion is superior, so my opinion of how the other is, or my understanding of the others subjectivity, is always just as good as any other, therefore whatever error arises must be because the other is lying or contradicting himself, or my understanding of himself - Irony, when he says something that conflicts with  this, my own, subjective understanding, paradox when reality contradicts my subjective understanding of it...never my problem.
Ego is sheltered.
The world can resolve the issue but the degenerate conveniently dismisses it as inapplicable, or too complex to fathom, so he denies himself an exit from the irony and paradox, so as to not go mad, or commit suicide, when his delusions are unraveled and revealed to be self-induced protective confusions, or limitations due to inheritance.

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The above method can be used to construct a linguistic, symbolic, semiotic subjective alternate reality, and then refusing to attach symbols/words to phenomena outside their premises.
Words usage, syntax, sentence sequences, can arbitrarily abide by the system's self-serving, self-referential 'logic', rejecting the world outside the mind, or selectively sampling it, to interpret it according to these internalized principles.
Every event is a justification of this esoteric world. Every contradiction assimilated into the system, or accused of irony, or paradoxes, or self-contradictions, having begun with the ideal and not the real.
The mind is confronted by a world it must explain within its alternate reality, or reject and ignore it.
It needs others to lend it support. Surrounding itself with gullible spirits, or needy lost ones, it can integrate into its system.
Any contradiction coming from outside the group, will be accused of envy, or when the uniqueness of the self-referential system is found beyond the group, it will be accused of plagiarism...because in subjective mindsets all agreements cannot be explained by a shared objective world, many subjective minds have come to interpret similarly...because there is no such world.

How can similarity, agreement be explained other than by plagiarisms?
How can any contradiction to the system be understood, when there is no objective world, other than as envy, as irony, as primal, irrational, hatred?

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The symbol/word, is like a string, connecting the ego, standing upon the ground, the earth, releasing his mind to the wind.
Without this connection, flimsy as it may be, the kite flies off, upon the air, and scatters.

Semiotics rooted in reality, does not permit for flights of fancy, for fantasy releasing itself to chance, and then claiming that whatever occurs was always planned.
The string, held by the ego, standing on the ground, limits the mind's range and height.

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Degenerates are so obsessed with the magical power of symbols/words, that they are convinced that by changing their name, or the names they use, releases them from a shameful past, and that all it takes is to sever the connection to the past on a neurological level - semiotics.

This they call salvation, sovereignty, liberation, to be born again, as anything and anyone, just by saying so, just by declaring it with conviction, just by changing the words around, and the names.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 09, 2017 4:15 pm

Friedrich Nietzsche wrote:
Those who know that they are profound strive for clarity. Those who would like to seem profound to the crowd strive for obscurity. For the crowd believes that if it cannot see to the bottom of something it must be profound. It is so timid and dislikes going into the water.


The use of language to create confusion, to obfuscate and in the ambiguity to claim that you are presenting something profound and revolutionary, and new, is part of the Nihilistic, Modern methodology.
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The extroverted dissatisfaction crying out..."This is not enough!!! This is not satisfying....there ought o be more." begins the process of projecting into the world what the mind creates to make the world more than it is, and calling the absence of such things, Nihilism, in essence corrupting the very meaning of the concept 'nihilism' to now mean a world void of human constructs, like god, universal morality, meaning, purpose...etc.
This is how language is hijacked by Abrahamism, to then develop into religions such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and then into Marxism, and Humanism, and post-modernism, or simply modernism.

The opium of the masses, Christianity, is replaced by a new drug, and then by a real drug, to help the mind find more in the world, in the form of psychedelic delusions.
Boredom is the problem.
Depravity based on resources strains the body, but sheltering produces excess brain energies, and a depravity of the brain, of the mind, suffering from ennui, wanting more danger, more risks, but afraid to actually go out and face them physically, it settles for the risk of madness, or releases in pornography and pop-culture, music, movies, games.... chemical numbing, or chemical joy, tension, adventure, inducing the mind with surrealism to preoccupy it, and to help it relieve itself of boredom - excess mental processes.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptyFri Oct 20, 2017 8:01 am

The word 'perfect' is often used to refer to circumstances beneficial to self - subjective.
We can say a 'meal is perfect', a blowjob was perfect, or that the universal conditions were perfect to make life, as we know it, possible.

Here is the dictionary definition of the word..Perfect.

Dictionary - Online wrote:
per·fect
adjective
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1.
having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.
"she strove to be the perfect wife"
synonyms: ideal, model, without fault, faultless, flawless, consummate, quintessential, exemplary, best, ultimate, copybook; More
2.
absolute; complete (used for emphasis).
"a perfect stranger"
synonyms: absolute, complete, total, real, out-and-out, thorough, thoroughgoing, downright, utter, sheer, arrant, unmitigated, unqualified, veritable, in every respect, unalloyed
"she felt like a perfect idiot"

Notice, in definition 1 it is used to refer to the highest, so it can be used to refer to a bottle being perfectly full, indicating that no more liquid can be added.
This definition cuts away a piece of reality, to make it possible to be full or empty.
The universe is no such containment with boundaries, though it is often conceptualized as such.

But the second definition is more important when dealing with metaphysics.
Absolute, complete, with no defects.
In the description of the cosmic circumstances being "perfect" what is implied is a reference to a state where these circumstances would not be present, therefore not permitting the emergence of life.
This assumes that life is the goal of existence, therefore the circumstances are 'perfect' to allow life to emerge.
A very presumptuous subjective analysis.
Universe is, nor can ever be 'complete' because ti has no boundaries like a bottle, or a box.
It has no way of being filled, completed.

But the term 'absolute' is more important if it is not used, as with the word 'perfect' as an emphasis...a linguistic expression of satisfaction, pleasure, gratification, appreciation.
Here is the dictionary definition of the word 'absolute'...
Dictionary - Online wrote:
not qualified or diminished in any way; total.
"absolute secrecy"
synonyms: complete, total, utter, out-and-out, outright, entire, perfect, pure, decided; More
antonyms: partial, qualified
used for general emphasis when expressing an opinion.
"the policy is absolute folly"
synonyms: definite, certain, positive, unconditional, categorical, unquestionable, incontrovertible, undoubted, unequivocal, decisive, conclusive, confirmed, infallible
"the absolute truth"
antonyms: partial, qualified
(of powers or rights) not subject to any limitation; unconditional.
"no one dared challenge her absolute authority"
synonyms: unlimited, unrestricted, unrestrained, unbounded, boundless, infinite, ultimate, total, supreme, unconditional
"absolute power"
antonyms: limited, conditional
(of a ruler) having unrestricted power.
"he proclaimed himself absolute monarch"
synonyms: autocratic, despotic, dictatorial, tyrannical, tyrannous, absolutist, authoritarian, arbitrary, autonomous, sovereign, autarchic, autarchical, omnipotent
"an absolute monarch"
antonyms: constitutional
LAW
(of a decree) final.
"the decree of nullity was made absolute"
LAW
see absolute title.
2.
viewed or existing independently and not in relation to other things; not relative or comparative.
"absolute moral standards"
synonyms: universal, fixed, independent, nonrelative, nonvariable, absolutist
"absolute moral standards"
antonyms: relative, flexible
GRAMMAR
(of a construction) syntactically independent of the rest of the sentence, as in.
"dinner being over, we left the table"
GRAMMAR
(of a transitive verb) used without an expressed object (e.g., guns kill ).
GRAMMAR
(of an adjective) used without an expressed noun (e.g., the brave ).
If it is not used for emphasis, like the word 'perfect', and if it is not used in reference to a fact, describing a most probable relationship, then the word 'absolute' refers to what is non-existent, and only exists as an idea, a concept in the human mind.

Nobody can ever point to an external phenomenon that is indivisible, immutable, non-contingent, eternal, so the word 'absolute' refers to a noumenon, an abstraction with no external reference.

"There is absolutely no elephant in my pocket" is not an absolute.
It is an expression emphasizing a most probable fact, based on a shared, common, experience of the average dimensions of the living organism 'elephant' in relation to the average dimensions of the organism 'human' which determines the possible dimensions of the construct 'pocket'.

Pocket, man, elephants are not absolutes.
All deteriorate, can be divided, are not eternal, indivisible....so the word 'absolute' refers to a mental state of certainty in regards to how these phenomena relate, and more specifically if one can be enclosed in the dimensions of another...so it indicated relative average possible dimensions, because it is also possible to find a miniature elephants, or refer to a toy elephant, or construct a pocket large enough to encompass a living elephant.
The sentence describing a relationship of fact, is not an absolute, but the word absolute is used to emphasize certainty in relation to probability.

This is one more example of how words can be used in multiple ways, and then confused and interchanged to produce confusion, rather than clarity.
Confusion is here degenerates thrive.
Confusion is where their retardation is clouded in ambiguity, and where the absurdities they need to cope with reality become plausible.
Linguistic games is where Nihilism lives.
Outside mind, concepts, theories, ideals, represents by symbols/words Nihilism is meaningless.
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Moderns immerse themselves in symbols/words.....they are the code of the Matrix, crating a wall of text, of streaming symbols, that they place before themselves and the world beyond.

This noetic wall of words, symbols, is the outer boundary of what we call artificiality. A ideological cocoon, womb, within which all acquires a humanist, anthropomorphic meaning.
Each Modern becomes part of the matrix - a web of co-dependent inter-subjectivity.
Each is for the other, an external reference to ideas, concepts, that do not exist outside organic brains.
When they attempt to prove their beliefs they refer and defer to another mind.The abstractions they believe in can be 'proven" by referring to their existence in another mind, but never to the world outside all minds - reality.
Like the concepts of 'perfection' and 'absolute'...they have no external reference, but only refer to mental abstractions, and subjective evaluations of what is beneficial to them, or the human species - no objective reference point.
We see this psychosis at work with the concept of 'beauty' that does have an external reference point, and how they desperately wish to makes it a theoretical, subjective, entirely noetic concept, resisting all attempts to place it within reality, to bring it down to earth, form the noetic heights of idealism and self-serving convenience.
If one defines beauty as symmetry and proportionality, they rebel, accusing the attempt of prejudice, and of being self-serving, like their rejection are. They accuse the other of their own guilt.
Placing the standard outside the mind, defining it in terms all can perceive and measure themselves and world with, is devastating for the Modern degenerate.
It places him outside the matrices of linguistic word-juggling - the wall of code, that can be manipulated to reflect anything back.

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This is the age of the con-man.
A type that can, at least, be admired for its cleverness, and cold-hearted ability to manipulate and exploit gullible, naive, feeble spirits.
The worse kind of grifter, is the one who having experienced success begins to believe in his own words.
Partly about the seduction of power, and partly because of the echo-chamber effect, this type is outside all rehabilitation, because he has ceased to recognize where his lies begin and where they end.
He is engulfed in his own bullshyte, and is unable and unwilling to try to get out of the cesspool he created.
What's left, but to redefine the concept of feces and make it appear gold.
Swine become used to the burning of methane. They cannot imagine a world without it.

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Degenerates are desperate for finality, for certainty....for the absolute.
They can only think in binary, dualistic, contexts of either/or.
Either something is absolutely right, or it is absolutely wrong.

As evidence they point to manmade construct, like marriage.
"All bachelors are not married"
They use language games.
"Truth is there is no truth"
"There is absolutely no absolute".
Or they simply misuse, abuse, language, defining literally what is metaphorical, or vice versa.
"I absolutely have no elephant I my pocket".

The more or less likelihood is too uncertain....too honest.
Degrees elude them.
They can only think in binary code - 1/0.
Absolute order, or absolute chaos....so chaos is denied, to leave absolute order, or order is denied to leave absolute chaos..
They cannot think outside the nihilistic paradigm. They have no understanding of understanding.
They know nothing of knowing.
They use language with no artistic sensibility. With the crassness of the talent-less fArtist.

Or they seesaw back and forth, something using it literally and then figuratively, depending on how threatened they feel - schizophrenia.
Sometimes appearances matter, then they don't.
Sometimes they appear to be rational, and then become mystical, and superstitious.
The pivot of the seesaw is their self-interests, their feelings, their ego: up and down...and then down and up.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 21, 2017 2:17 pm

Degenerates always assume an intent.
So, when they perceive a phenomenon they call stone, having themselves reduced it to a singularity, though it is a unity of diverse patterns in an incidental interaction, they assume it to be "perfect", in regards to the ideal of 'stoniness' in their mind.

They have constructed an idea(l), named it, and then assumed it to be perfect in relation to the idea(l) itself.
The phenomenon itself is changing, deteriorating, which does not factor into their idealization.
The perfect is being reduced in perfection, though the degenerate will define all versions as equally perfect, reducing the meaning of the word to meaningless, like when Christians define their god as 'love' reducing the meaning of the evolved behaviour, accompanied by a sensation/emotion, to a meaningless idea(l).

The definition of the term [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] and the 'absolute' it alludes to is given.

#1 Refers to the idea of rockness established from experience.
So, if the criteria for rockness are met, then the rock it called 'perfect', though it is never immutable, indivisible, non-contingent, eternal...and never the same.
One can call a unity made of marble and granite a rock, just as one can call a unity made of silver and gold a rock.
The criteria are vague and general....simplifications, as all abstractions are.
Describing the rock perfect, implies that it meets the criteria of what a rock ought to be, given precedent, conventions, generalizations.

#2. Implies an absolute.
A rock, any rock, is said to be complete, in that it meets the general criteria of rockness.
But it is not absolute in that it is not complete, immutable, indivisible, eternal.
It is 'absolutely perfect' in regards to the generalized, vague idea(l) in our head, but not in relation to an external standard of absoluteness.

As such we can also say that chaos is perfect, and all ideas are perfect when they meet the criteria we gave them in our mind, which may be self-serving, and referring to how gratifying they make us feel.

We can also call the rock singular...as in emphasizing its uniqueness, its importance to us, etc.
But the rock is not singular - a singularity.
it is so in relation to our experiences of rocks and our expectations of what the 'perfect' rock ought to be, or look like.
We can do the same in regards to our relationships to living organisms, and call our marriage a perfect marriage, and our love for our child an absolute love....or our appreciation of a meal, or a sexual encounter as 'absolutely perfect'.


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Desperate degenerates are prone to deep cowardice, or fits of great courage.
Their either/or convictions leave no room for skepticism, and therefore procrastination.
Their convictions are certain, or completely uncertain, with no in-between.
A jihadi, is the name he gave his spiritual mother's zealot.
It's a state of placing one's self in a trance... the perfect condition to begin a frenzied rage attack, the Norse called berserker, or a passionate orgy – erotic rage fucking.
Religious fantatics make the best fighter… not warriors.
We may call it in-the-zone, total unquestioning dedication – complete focus.
Doubt, self-consciousness would only break the trance.
No doubt.
Self-deceit functions in the same way.
It's a way of enhancing performance by convincing the ego of its own lies, or of quieting skepticism, doubt, appearing as confidence.
Alcohol and drugs can be sued to mimic the same organic effect.
It's self-numbing, or suppressing the frontal lobe, to allow the reptilian mind to dominate.
Ignorance is often mistaken for courage, and this method imitates the state of not-knowing.

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If all were ordered, consciousness would be unnecessary.
Everything would converge into increasingly more ordered states....unless one secretly assumes that life is the motive of existence, or awareness of order, an appreciation of it, is a prerogative.
An admiration of self, implying that pleasure in one's self, in ordering universe, is the motive - hedonism.

That is exactly what degenerates presume, even if they do not know it, or vehemently deny it.
It is why they claim the universe is 'perfect', using life as the measuring standard.
Circumstances being, hypothetically, fine-tuned for life to emerge - as if it were a goal, a necessary outcome of perfection.
It is, also, why they use self-referential language to presume absolutes. Their expressions of appreciation, of preference, of gratification, of certainty, conviction, indicating the presence of absolutes. Their metaphors, their interpretations of relationships between patterns, also absolutes.
Universal constant, rather than being patterns of consistent, repetition, by no means eternal, also examples of absolutes.
When God was prematurely declared dead, the degenerates panicked, and rallied to reinvent him under a new name.
The brain creates absolutes - abstractions of generalized/simplified interpretations of phenomena, conceptualized as vague, mystical absolutes.
They worship their own binary methods of reducing fluidity into static forms.
It is they that construct absolutes, in the ambiguous way that they do, and then believe in a creator being, other than themselves.
They worship existence using their own biorhythms as a standard, and feel it to be absolutely perfect.
They convert world to abstractions and then give them representative symbols/words, which they can mix and combine in any way, and call this creating reality, thinking of themselves as gods, or agencies of the divine.

But who shall give the Devil his share?
Ha!!!
Folly of man.

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Degeneration is a reversion, a degradation, to a previous state.

Alchemy will return to replace chemistry.
Magic will become the new science.
Astrology will replace psychology.
Superstition will become the new philosophy.

Cycles of ascent and descent will plunge humanity into a new Dark Age, awaiting a new enlightenment.
But when and where will it come, is a question overpowered by if it will come.
Wheels do not roll forever. Planetary systems do not last for an eternity.
Some shatter into pieces, and are replaced by others, or by a long cold winter.

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