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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptySun Oct 29, 2017 5:42 pm

Degenerates become engulfed by the subjective.
Their feminine dispositions trap them in emotions, sensation, feelings, the personal aspect - their philosophy is entirely feminized, dealing only with the human condition. It is psychology, or politics, or marketing.
The art they are attracted to is approached from the vantage point of a female, or a boy that has not gone through the rites of passage from childhood to manhood.
The hypermasculine seduces them, the sexual captivates them, like they would any immature mind, or a feminine mind that is dependent on her social place and her sexual value.

They do not think, they emote.
Their words are full of flowery, over-artistic language, insinuating as a girl would flirt with her potential lover...wanting to show weakness but afraid to, all at once.
They cloud their meaning with mountains of metaphorical insinuations, coy innuendos, testing double entendres, anxious to be appreciated, loved, cared for, but also anxious about the implications, the consequences.  

So, when I speak of need/suffering as being how a living organism experiences (inter)activity, they assume that I am describing the cosmos as lacking something, as needing something, as suffering from something.
The subjective has become the objective, so they see themselves everywhere. Everything sings their praise, everything breathes their name, everything moves along with them - Narcissus peering into his own face.  
Humanity has become world, so they measure truth with quantities, with popularity, with love, appreciation - democratic vote.
Their words and symbols are powerful spells that can alter existence, or that can peek into the mind of the divine one, and since humanity now means world, in their mind, their power is measured by its impact on feeble, needy, lost men-children, not that much different from them.

So, when I speak of chaos they assume I am worshipping it, rather than rescuing the concept of order from their stunted womanly hands, that wants to twist it into a one-god, and make themselves its favoured concubine.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 27, 2017 10:35 am

Degenerates confuse the existence of the symbol/word, referring to a mental abstraction, a noumenon, for the existence of the phenomenon itself; that which appears outside the mind, or independent from the mind.
They begin to confuse the noumenon with the phenomenon, often intentionally.

They confuse their ability to name, to represent, to baptize the apparent using any word, as their 'power', an expression of their 'freedom' to create their own subjective reality.
Man has logos, can name the abstractions in his mind...so he can externalize his subjectivity in the form of a symbol - a symbol of his own creation.
He can replace the phenomenon with a noumenon, or refer to it, or project it when it is absent.
In his mind he can construct any noumenon, and think of himself a god, or baptize any phenomenon using any word, thinking he has discovered the abstraction he constructed in his mind.
Madness.
He can rename himself a woman, or a dog, or some other mental contraption simply by renaming it - speaking it, declaring it, pronouncing it.

Find a cat and name it god, and you've found god.
Call yourself perfect, or the circumstances that made you possible perfect...and it is so.
Invent a new concept by combining one or more abstractions, and it exists...as a word, therefore it exists as abstraction...then give it a name, a symbol and paint it, write it, and there it is....outside your mind....existing.
Call yourself god, or perfect, or good, and you are so.  

It's magical, miraculous what logos can do....if there's a will.
A cleansing verbal, baptismal, bath, to make it divine....mythical.
Spirit means mind....for the modern....it is where perfection, the noumenon, the idea(l) exists, in theory.
It's inside where the world that does not bend with words, can never spoil and soil it.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 29, 2017 2:42 pm

Let me show you how a degenerates invents a new philosophy...

Take Nietzsche's Will to Power.
then find a 'positive' word, like 'freedom', or 'love'...

Now replace 'power' with 'love'...Will to 'Love'.
Justify it using esoteric, poetics and evasive ambiguities.
Now you can claim to have invented the bridge between Nietzsche and Christianity. Nietzsche is now reinvented as a prophet of Christianity. perhaps he was only against how Christianity was applied.

...or..

Take Kant's Thing-in-itself, replace it with the word 'ego'...now you have a brand new philosophy with more possibilities, more implications.

...or....

Take Heidegger's dasein, and put in its place the word subjective....
Now you've attached Heidegger with post-modernity....

It's so easy.
The hard part is finding imbeciles to buy into it.
You have to offer then a treat, something like a promise...no not eternal salvation, it's been sued before....perhaps 'power' to attract the feeble, the desperate the lost, the cowards the imbeciles the sick.....
Bring me your sick, your lost, your fucked-up and I shall lead them to the promised land.....

From a crowd a voice...
"It's all words, all bullshit!!! All words are so!!!"
He does not know why or how, so he offers a blanket decree....all words are equally baseless, subjectively used.
The idiot Messiah finds an idiot antagonist in the crowd.
Now starts the push and pull....a stalemate...a paradox, evil against good, positive against negative....
Messiah wins among the desperate because his idiocy comes with a prize.
The skeptical moron has nothing to offer, but brotherhood and a collectivity of ignorance, huddling in the void.

Nihilistic paradigm....bi-polar psychotics.
Positive versus pure Nihilism.
When will we find peace?

'All is war', says Heraclitus....but who ares?
Shall we replace 'war' with play?
yes...then the message becomes more palatable for our poor, childish minds, declaring themselves mature and adult.
'All is play'....Yes, the mantra of the modern degenerate.
All is game....all is word juggling....all is subjective.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 29, 2017 3:02 pm

if I name something 'dog' does not make it a dog.
If i name something 'perfect', does not make it so.
If I call something 'god' doesn't make god exist.

What do these words mean?
First look into the memetic definition - Dictionary.
But do not stop there, and connect this definition to your emotions, your feelings, your internal esoteric abstractions.
that's easy...that's what a charlatan, a hypocrite an liar and a coward would do.
The words must then attach to a phenomenon, outside the mind.
Something that can be perceived, tested, appreciated, validated, verified....

i return to my task....i take the word 'dog' I search in dictionary for a definition, then I look into the world for what this definition refers to.
If the word had been 'unicorn' I would have to admit that such a thing, as described in the dictionary, has never existed....it has been named, thought, described, painted......narrated.....but never, ever, perceive.
So, I must conclude that the word unicorn refers to nothing but a noetic construct....an idea(l).

Does the word 'dog' face a similar fate/
No!!!
Because I can find the phenomenon, outside my brain, that the word, as it is defined in the dictionary, refers to.

So....
Phenomenon < medium (light, atmosphere) > Nervous System (brain)  (simplification/generalization) = abstraction)> Noumenon

If the noumenon has no ending at a phenomenon, then it stops at nervous system.
It's a mental construct, a theory, an idea/ideal.

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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptySat Dec 30, 2017 4:20 pm

With degenerates an inverted Occam's Razor applies.
Hypocrisy and cowardice rejects the obvious, and a solution is sought in the complicated and presumptuous.

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Degenerates will employ the oldest defensive strategy in the book. A good defence is a good offence.
they are on the defensive because their language based 'philosophies' have no external references, and so they are prone to go on the offensive accusing others of what they are most guilty of.

Their attack will be one of accusing the threat of subjectivity, so as to make his own inconspicuous, or at least make any attack upon his weakness seem like retribution.
his won abstractions are void of substance. They are theory, esoteric crap, with no corporeality, no flesh and bones. Their words empty of meaning, and only have internal, psychological, abstractions as webs of meaning to vaguely refer to but be unable to show.
His attack will be that all words are void of such substance, or, at least, that the attacked, threatening to expose his hypocrisy and cowardice, is just as guilty of offering words that are subjectively defined.

This is not the case when it comes to realism or paganism that uses metaphors not to convert the point of reference to an internal abstraction, a noumenon, but as a way of clarifying what is to all apparent.
When a pagan says 'god' he is referring to natural forces that every man, every living organism, experiences on some level.
When he speaks of spirits, he means his dead ancestors who live inside of him as genes he shares with them.
When he says soul he means the continuum of memories, stored in his brain and in his genes, as DNA, that are linked.
When he speaks of love or morality he is referring to an observable, easily testable, behaviour, having to do with evolution of species and survival strategies.
His subjectivity is in relation to a phenomenon outside his control - his will.
He holds himself accountable to it,a s he does all else.

The words are defined not mystically, not arbitrarily, not by confusing them to impress and to manipulate and exploit imbeciles, but in reference to what appears and is perfectible using his senses.

A dictionary definition is the limit the meme placed upon his usage and application of symbols and words...but it is not open-ended....on the other end is the genetic, the physical the perceptible.
He is but a conduit between his culture (meme) and the world,...with his words the nexus of connection.
He does not arbitrarily choose to define words, but the definition is imposed not only due to the need to communicate, but by natural order, natural sequences, by the world itself.
Symbols/words connect to behaviours, interactivity, the apparent...and not to whatever he so desires or just pulls out of his arse and then imposes it using force.
the meme, a culture, adapts to world, not world to culture.
Memes comes from genes, not genes from memes.
Nihilism attempts to do the reverse and construct genes from memes, or reality from the symbols/word.

Every single word, and symbol a honest Aryan uses is in directly connected to an observable phenomenon.
Such words as 'freedom', or 'virtue' are qualifying clarifications of other words connecting to phenomena. The structure is built from bottom upwards.....starting from the phenomenon given a name, and then added to it a qualifier, and then a further clarification...and onward.
His language is a structure that begins from the ground up or from the ground downward...representing idealism and metaphysics, starting from physics, from the empirical, the observable.

Every word has a link back to the ground - down or up to the earth's surface, the realm of the sensually accessible.
Words like 'love', 'gender', 'morality', 'truth', 'god' can all be linked to an observable testable, sensually perceived phenomenon - behaviour, interaction.
For this reason the application of symbols/words are stringently restricted, just as the placement of a stone to build a stone wall is very important.
A good wall, a strong wall has stones that seem to belong there, and in no other place on the same wall.
Philosophy builds structures using symbols/words. Therefore words have specific places within sentence structures, if one wishes to build a real wall, a pragmatic one, and not an imaginary wall, floating in air, or a fun wall, one can play with in his mind.
The precise usage and application of words is essential to the gradual building of a philosophical structure.
Constructing nonsense and then working on finding fools to buy into your nonsense, is easier than actually building a real wall, in the real world.
A mason must find the right wall, place it in the right place, chisel away unnecessary pieces, and slowly build down to settle a strong foundation into the earth, and then upward, toward the heavens, able to resist storms and deluges.
An imbecile has no such restrictions. He can construct theoretical houses, in his mind, where no storm, no earthquake, no flood can ever touch it. He can place words in any place, because he is building it in his fantasies.
He can then justify his building to morons....and sell ti to them for a profit.
plenty of retards in the world to exploit. So many, in fact, the system has special rules protecting them form severe exploitation.



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PostSubject: Re: Desperate Degenerates Desperate Degenerates  - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 am

The proof of how terminal the illness of feminzation and weakness has become in modernity, is related to the relationship of instincts and their stimuli. Moderns are now subordinated to the biological apparatus of idealism; when words or phrases or terminologies or etymologies have now become so attached to the fight/flight disposition, that these words are like the lion in the jungle that threatens their survival with its predatory growl.

The SJW is this new retarded psychology. The very utterances and sounds emitted from a mouth that carry with it threatening content, will place them directly into a state of consternation of kill or be killed. External physical threats have become substituted for ideologies that are harmful to the last remaining faculty of real  biological existence: their chemical receptors producing emotional responses. Harmful words and ideas are now what goes bump in the night for them, what makes them ready to defend their life and gets their heart racing with adrenaline. Bad words and ideas are what they fear now more than the lion, which is why they would be stunted/retarded enough to stand, passively, and allow a real predator to devour them.


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Degenerates believe that judgments work on consensus.
They cannot believe that someone can win a debate versus a weaker thinker, or impose your will, and this sill does not sway nature, or the world.
Communists in Russia defeated their opponents and applied communism and they still failed because their judgments were conflicting with natural order.
Their opponents were defeated but not reality.

Such imbeciles want to believe that if you convince humans, or you impose your judgments upon them, that changes reality itself.
They cannot separate humanity from world, because in their needy pathetic mind humanity is world.
Still wrapped on the Christian idea that evil enters the world through sin, the primordial kind,. the human kind, and if not for humans the world would be a paradise.  
They think that if conflict is eliminated using a democratic process of making concessions that this will solve the matter of violence, huger, suffering.
Some still believe that before 'western' man arrived on the scene primitive man lived in peaceful bliss.
Western man is European man.
The 'evil' scourge.
That conflict, war, violence cleanse away genetic garbage alludes them, because they fear they are the source of that smell.

How, fuckin' naive can you be?
How old do you have to be before you realize you are an imbecile?

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Of course the modern Degenerate would feel invulnerable, god-like, and remain a perpetual teenager....he's been protected from the severity of his wrong judgments since birth, to the point where some begin to think all judgments are equally subjective.
Intelligence, in nature, evolved as a result on trial and error - bad judgments resulted in sever, brutal costs to the individual organism, whereas good judgments, based on a superior clarity concerning the objective, indifferent world, resulted in benefits with fewer collateral costs.
Natural selection propagated those minds that could more accurately judge, and with more realistic goals could come closer to their attainment.
Value judgments are juxtapositions of a theoretical behaviour, in relation to a desired objective.
The mind maps out a coarse of action to attain the goal.
This 'mapping-out' is what we call meaning.
Te objective is not exaggerated, so as to make it unattainable, or disappointing...and the relationships of between phenomena are judged as accurately as possible, helping the organism navigate towards the intended goal, the ideal, the objective.

Modern systems intervene to propagate gullible, effete, more malleable, more controllable minds, so it protects them form the more severe costs of their bad judgments, making these mind forever dependent on the intervention of the institution, the collective, to protect them from their own mistakes.
If this conditions continues for generations then individuals begin taking it for granted that the institution will step-in, and they begin believing their are invulnerable. They believe that the low cost of their wrong judgments is due to their own personal power, of because their judgments were, in fact, good, or that all judgments are equal because nobody seems to suffer anything above a certain level of severity.
Now atrophying begins.
De-voluton commences.
With no severity to judgment the mind becomes careless, adolescent, infantile...and dependent, insisting that the institutions that intervened continue to intervene, and each generation demands more and more interventions.
Victim-psychology is perpetual infancy - a baby cries so that the parent comes to its aid.
Overplaying the victim ensures that the parent, in its case the institution, comes to your aid first - baby that cries the loudest gets the bottle first.

In the wild, ion nature, there is no institutional parent waiting to step-in.
Every choice, based on a judgment, has a cost/benefit outcome - no debates, no word-games.
Natural selection is the conflict between judgments, and the value given to the objective and to the phenomena to be navigated towards it.
Overestimating the goal means you expend more necessary for your survival energies than the objective merits. This would have a accumulated effect - a cost.
Underestimating, or wrongly evaluating the phenomena to navigate, their inter-relationships, will also increase the estimated costs in relation to the actual benefit.

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Their words are meaningless because they will not tolerate any meaning not their own, or that does not flatter, comfort, give hope to their own.
Words describing what is nowhere to be found, because that's how they like it - seeking what is unreal, looking for what can exist only in the mind - to trap and seduce and control.

If what they seek is non-existent then they can spend a lifetime looking, and calling this their intellectual preoccupation; if what they seek is in the mind, then it can be placed in their own, making them the centre of attention, the source the giver of meaning to those who are lost, in need, and too feeble to crate their own.

But our words are not arbitrary and meaningless.
They are defined by actions and behaviours we can perceive.
They refer to what is tangible, perceptible, testable, and is not theoretical, abstract emotional.

We know what god and love is because we can see and appreciate.
We live in world, not in our heads.

World is not humanity.
We stand outside humanity, not world.
We disengage from the human herd, not from reality.

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If you detach symbols form their references in world and retain only their dictionary definitions, then it's easy to construct a cohesive, self-consistent alternate reality.
All this requires is fantasy, a creative imagination that is released from worldly limitations.

It is difficult to construct a cohesive model that is world-referential, and make it as consistent as possible.

Man adapts to world, not world to man.
Man is not world.
Subjectivity is not world creating, it is world translating, world interpreting.
The interpretation if and when applied in world, if it is converted back to activity, will face the consequences.
Consequences as costs and benefits to the individual applying the interpretation, the judgment of the world within the world that remains indifferent to all judgments of it.

The rest are word-juggling noetic acrobatics.....chasing one's own tail, to pass the time and pretend you are going something constructive and world-altering.
Mental masturbation can have, like all forms of hedonism, pleasure as its end, but like spilled semen it fertilizes nothing and leads to nothing real....it only inspires orgasm in those who also use mental masturbation as a relief, giving them a new pleasure-toy.

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Voices in my head, driving me insane, begging me to share them, unload them.
Ideas in my mind, looking to find, my destiny, to be rich and famous, for nothing besides do I care less.
Words in my brain, needy to heard, among the herd, in their midst to find myself beyond my shell.

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Been a victim for so long.
Doing what I was told.
I bought whatever they sold.

No more shall I cry.
Rejecting to buy.
I've become a ascetic.
Living in my spirit before they consume me.
Why can they not be honest?
Stop exploiting innocence like mine.
I need warning labels on packaging.
Telling me what's bad and what good for me.

Stop competing and establish a committee.
Regulating goods and services.
For girls like me.

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Fisher of men they'll be
Trolling for the floundering in shallow seas
Bating their hooks with worms
Stained with the flesh and blood of themselves
made saviour of poisson
pharmakon for the ill

The feeble shall be promised the earth
and having lost all hope in the present, and past,
they will dream of a coming future
When lamb shall become lion
and wolves shall be made sheep

A dead man's dreams

They will gather a healthy catch of sickness,
and in their midst feel better

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In the 'sea' of existence, fluctuating with waves, men disconnected from their past, their nature, are drowning.
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Whether wilfully or not, these minds are floundering in a sea with nothing to hold onto but hope and ideas in thir mnid.
A 'fisher of men' appears offering them help, and he seems to 'walk on water'.
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He has redefined words and made them ideas, therefore he walks on noetic waters.
Water has been given a new definition.
The drowning men cannot stop and consider the trick because they are drowning and desperate for any form of help, even one based on word manipulation and the exploitation of their dire circumstances.

Meme = Dictionary
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What is language?
An expression of a shared cultural heritage.
Language is a conventional way of sharing thoughts.  

Gene = nervous system (brain)
Body
Mind uses words to share ideas of what?
Of world.
World is that which is beyond the mind/body.
Meme evolves in relation to world, nor world in relation to meme.
Word is a part of language referring to a part of world.
Some words facilitate communication by setting up rules of communicating ideas - grammar.

Therefore, based on a dictionary expressing a shared relationship to world, language refers to what?
To what is outside the mind/body - the organism.
So what does the word 'dog' refer to?
No, not another word, or concept, but to a phenomenon - a complex inter-action of patterns = organism in this case.
The noetic symbol 'dog' refers to the biological phenomenon...
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This dynamic organism can be given any other name.
It may even be called charlie, max, rex....or chien, skyli, in other memes.
So, the linguistic symbol is not the organism, but refers to it.
It can be anything but is called 'dog' for particular historical reasons.
Calling it by another name would only make communication more difficult, but it would not change what a dog is.
Dog doesn't care.
Because 'dog, like male, like human, like morality, like race, like love, like beauty, is not arbitrary but refers to specific patterns, observed and appreciated.  
If the observer fails to see, or correctly appreciate (judge) he will not escape the consequences...even if he calls the dog a cloud, or smoke, or nothing.
He ought to care, because the world doesn't give a shit.

What is stone or rock?
It is this...
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Notice how the tone is not a unity but we can make it so by eliminating the background.
We can convert the general term stone, referring to any congruence, into a singularity, and even imply that it is intentionally so, or that its shape is sending is a message...like when we see a cloud shaped like our lover, or our pet cat or our penis....whatever is occupying us on a subconscious level we perceive in the shapes of clouds, hear in the gurgling of water, the song of birds, feel in a gust of wind...
We are now surrounded by nature sending us messages, whispering our name, making our minds see ghosts, her the dead etc.

But Nihilism says no, this is too difficult...too authoritarian.
How fascistic natural order is to us poor humans.
The shameless nihilists chooses to slightly modify the definition.
It no longer reference to this....
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...but now refers to an abstraction in his mind.
Now, dog becomes a metaphor for what he cannot show, but only think, conceive, and feel.
There are many ways to justify this, but it is all smoke and mirrors.
Mystifying the term 'dog' makes it an idea(l), and idea(l)s that cannot be applied remain 'pure' forever safe from all criticism, forever above the experienced the corporeal the pragmatic.
The organism dog can now refer to a mystical concept, full of imaginary possibilities, open to any slight nuanced modification, so open to any creativity based on a need.
But what of the coward the lost imbecile with not a great fantasy, no creative imagination?
Well such pathetic creatures wills eek the creativity of their higher kind - other, more creative degenerates will fabricate whatever mental model they need to escape and to self-medicate.

We also have another such pathetic creature, on the other side of the same psychotic spectrum.
The ones who, though calling themselves philosophical and rational, refuse to connect words to the world; refuse to bring language 'down to earth'.
Why...why so hypocritical and cowardly?
Because they are afraid of what this will expose them to.

They must discredit all words, and make them all a matter of memetic agreement.
Therefore dictionary, through mind, must not be permitted to connect to world, but to another book
Scripture, perhaps...or the Communist Manifesto, or Scientiology's Dianetics.

Therefore in nihilism...

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So script, in dictionary, through nervous system connects to another mind (dead or alive) in another script.
Words leading to more words.
Completely avoiding the physical, the experienced, that poor dog living in the real world.

Instead of aesthetics and empiricism, the validation is found in emotion, sensation, ideology full of grand promises and unsubstantiated hope.  

Easy peasy....
The hard part if fishing for the right kind of gullible, imbecile, and finding him desperate and lost enough to be willing to grasp upon anything to save himself.  
A matter of waiting and exploiting human weakness, illness, desperation.
A fisher of men, is a Messiah....the Christ, saviour...or any saviour, rebelling against the cruel, indifferent cosmos.
The right bait... for the desired fish....in the right sea, or cesspool.

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L.Ron Hubburd's Dianetics is a perfect example of an emergent nihilistic spirituality, corrupting and trying to imitate a successful previous one.
It remains a cult because ti has not gained traction.
It is self-cohesive, self-referential, has its own esoteric logic.
It invents new application of words, and gathers to it the infinite numbers of lost imbeciles roaming no the streets.

It has its messiah, and icons....Hollywood stars to seduce and inspire the average moron.

It can be called a Modern philosophy.
A perfect example of nihilism: detached from reality, with some references and jargon to appear scientific and rational, and still completely insane to all but the initiated and those still skeptical.
How do these cults grow?
By fishing for lost, desperate, sick, fucks.

Why does one nihilistic ideology so hate others nihilistic ideologies?
Because they are fishing the same cesspools for the same kind of imbeciles, and because without followers, believers, their ideology is nonsense and inert, impotent - like a virus awaiting a host to infect.

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For degenerate Moderns....Education = intelligence, and knowledge = understanding.
For them, edumucating races leads to uniform outcomes, erasing any present genetic differences in inherited potentials.
Like training a chimpanzee to wear clothes, to eat using utensils and to behave like a human leads to a uniformity among apes.

Logos is crucial, because only the human species can learn and react to verbal and written symbols, spoken or written in a particular sequence.
Only humans can speak - have logos.....code for a 'soul'.
This factor, this 'spirit/soul' is what makes humans, and only humans immune to natural selection, or evolution theory.
Language, learned and regurgitated, makes the past, the sum of all previous nurturing (nature) inapplicable - the organism is immunized to reality through language.
Genetics are erased or equalized with memetics.

But there's a further benefit with no cost.
if you learn a language and mimic behaviour you can become that which you imitate.
If I visit Japan, learn the language, absorb the culture, the meme, integrate it into my behaviour by regurgitating and imitating then i become Japanese.

A common myth among moderns is that the ancient Hellenes believed that paideia (education, training) made a Greek Greek.
This is part of a list of historical misinterpretations, another being the understanding of the Latin based word 'truth' as aletheia.....and the misinterpretation of eros to mean sexual leading the the idea that the ancients were all homosexuals because they spoke of eromenos in reference to a teacher student, adult man boy relationship.
Without the knowledge of their attitude towards women and love, we cannot understand why they used eros to describe a man's relationship with another man, as a loved one.
Their attitude towards homosexuality is also clear.
This has been used by Abrhamics to slander the ancients, constructing a propaganda that is passed on in edumucation.
They also ignore or misunderstand their attitude towards races, and how they used the word 'barbarian' to describe those that spoke another tongue, and that looked different.
They had yet to be trained in the modern enlightened attitude to selectively dismiss appearance when it suits our humanitarian motives to produce a uniformity.

Their beliefs on women is evidence of how wrong and 'backwards' their thinking was, and how advanced we Moderns are.
Imagine believing that women were not capable of love as men experience it - later inventing Romanticism, to the surprised acquiescence of women who cannot believe how men can place them on a pedestal.
Men are capable of such heights and such lows....women are steadily mediocre.



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Douche-bags love the idea that all are like them.
We all pull definitions and judgments from our extended and gaping in need arse and then ashamed of the fact, we all want to accuse all of being little whores, like we know we are.

The douche-bag has no problem with value judgments all can agree on, or are trivial....like 'ice is cold'.....'heat is good', 'eating shit is not good' and 'eating broccoli is good'....trivial mundane crap that does not approach the gaping wounds of their infected puss filled anus.
They want to believe that since they cannot judge and are moron, then all must be like them; they fell for the infantile dogma of Christianity and then changed their mind and fell for the slightly less infantile adolescent trick of Marxism, so they are making progress....they have an open mind....their mistakes are evidence that they are thinking.
I wonder what other infantile trick their judgments will fall for.
Oh, I know...the idiocy of accusing all of being like them.
"I know i am, but so are you"
We're talking about maturity here...no laughing matter.

They have no clue how to determine what is more probable, form what is less so.....their past points to a defective mind, prone to emotion, self-gratifying delusions.....so who can trust such a brain. Not even they can....but they will not admit it.
Instead they want to project this inherited deficiency as a universal fact.
All are born with the same idiotic potentials, because....babies are all dumb.
Were we not all, once, babies?
The idea is so cunt-aliciuos that we cannot stop licking our lips with gluttonous hunger.
Conclusion: we are all born equally dumb.

As such...all organisms are born equal. In fact, chimpanzees, and many other species seem to mature faster than humans....so we might even say they are being, unjustly, inhibited from reaching their fulfill potentials.
Chimpanzees are swinging from trees at the age when human babies are still crapping in their diapers, and sucking on nipples.
Evidence is there.
we are all blank slates born equal and it is evil society, some invisible occult conspiracy, that holds some back and allows others to advance quicker.
Marxism?
Islam?
Christianity?
Judaism?
All of the above.

Call it modernity....progressive...enlightened.

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Degenerates have changed the terminology.
What they once called god, they call universe.
They think this escapes Nietzsche's critique, and is an advancement.
A rebirth of god, who was wrongly pronounced dead.

crypt-Christianity.....Abrahamism.
Nihilism invents a new variant of its forever recyclable nature-hating, world-negating, ideals.

Same mysticism....only using more scientific jargon to seem fresh and new...and progressive.
Updating the crutch.....inventing a wheelchair, the cripple feels healed.
Same herd psychology, under a new banner. The farmer has changed clothes, the shepherd rides a Humvee.
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Some curious consequences of the inverted method used by nihilists.

Whereas realism can use multiple symbols/words to refer to the same phenomenon, all can appreciate separately and reach some consensus in relation to its utility and value, the Nihilists produces multiplicity but can only use one, or a few symbols, and words, to refer to a noumenon nobody but the few initiated into a cult-like linguistic Kabbalah can pretend to make sense of.....because the noumenon is obscure and they must debate its utility.

Christians have spent centuries debating the meaning of their symbols/words, because they are entirely subjective.
This is why Moderns want, or wish, to imply that all judgments are subjective.

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Degenerates remain loyal to the absolute.
They either hide behind absolute conviction, or they hide behind its absence.

Either/Or simpletons, and cowards, if not hypocrites.
Degrees scare them....it alludes to a fluid, forever uncertain cosmos.
It alludes to gradations of superior/inferior, worse/best....fractions, in their binary 1/0 system.
They need certainty, one way or another.
Certainty about TRUTH, or a certainty about its absence.
They've change the name they use to describe the same lies they once became addicted to. and surrendered to.

From this psychosis the two types of Nihilism emerge:
Positive, and pure, or negative Nihilism - the two poles in their binary system.
Absolute ONE, or absolute NIL.
If there is no GOD, there is nothing real.

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An example of the practical application of the above:
The degenerate dismisses race, as, absolutely a social construct.
If his faith is shattered, and he becomes skeptical, as he would about God, as defined by Abrahamism, then he resorts to eternal uncertainty, absolute non-conviction. He resists what scares him with doubt - he can never come to a conclusion, therefore he escapes by remaining unconvinced about all conclusions.

In religious terms it is expressed as an absolute belief, in an absolute God, and if this is made uncertain, then an absolute denial of all conceptions of God.
If God is absent then there is no truth, whatsoever.
Subjectivity.
With no omnipotent, omniscient, Scripted Deity, then all versions are equally valid, and so none are valid, equally.
It's the resentiment of the disillusioned retard, suddenly discovering he was following human inventions - a victim of his own gullible, idiocy.
He is unable to determine what fooled him, so he settles on a blanket rejection of all theories, unless sanctioned by a majority.
He defers to judgments of quantity, because he lacks the appreciation of quality, and qualities.
He does not give himself to the majority, because he is cynical about all human judgments, including his own.
He just surrenders to the will of the many, and then becomes a 'victim' of their decrees.
He comes full circle - from infantile surrender to peers and parental training, he surrenders to the majority, where he can claim to not have participated wilfully.
He takes himself out of the pool of causation.

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The last refuge of the degenerate will always be the majority.

Moderns always sought in the masses, which they belonged to, and felt proud for being one of them, the validation, and reasons, they cannot offer on their own, for the absurdities they need to remain sane and to be able to tolerate an existence they find intolerable.
What is a modern but the ones who are always on the forefront of popular opinions, and we all know what absurdities all such groups, across the ages, believed and were proud of their faith in them.
The more recent Moderns look down upon these past versions of themselves, because they are now on the forefront of their age's popular convictions, and lifestyles and truths.
Moderns looking disparagingly back upon earlier version of themselves, each unable to comprehend how those past versions could have believed in such obvious nonsense...as future 'moderns' will do with them and their convictions.

Moderns simply means 'masses'. Present in every period of time and in every culture.
It means most updated populism.
It means adopting the beliefs of your time and place, and altering them as these shift from year to year - this is what Moderns call 'progress' and 'open-mindedness'.
It's the ability to remain up-to-date on changing beliefs and social trends.
Some, more stubborn and reluctant, remain true to the previous fashion and call themselves 'conservative' for this reason; the other kind always desperate to remain in-line with changing social fashion, spiritual and political trends.

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Unlike degenerates I do not pull definitions of words out of my arse, and then project them out there, selling them to morons as hidden, or occult, or reserved for the few chosen ones...or as romantic Utopian idealism.

My words arse defined by using experiences of phenomena as my guide and my limit.
They refer to observable, testable, phenomena, or they allude to explanations for them, also observable and testable.
The only word I use, where I diverge from this rule, is with the word 'chaos', to which I give a more radical definition; explaining phenomena, (inter)activity, called flux, and free-will.
It also disintegrates determinism or places it within proper contexts, while simultaneously also remaining true to natural order and evolution theory.

Chaos, as I define it, is where I place the mystical...the forever unknowable, the mysterious...the counter-intuitive.

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Most 'philosophical' questions posited by degenerates already presuppose something they cannot prove, or have no basis for in reality.

For example, when a morn asks "why was the world created? he already presupposes in the question two things:
That the world had a beginning, that ti was created, wither by a god or out of nowhere and nothing....and second that it requires a reason to exist...in other words that it has meaning and purpose outside the brain.

It's like asking:
Why does Santa Clause deliver gifts and how can he do so in one night?
A question a child will make....or a man-child.

Most philosophical questions preoccupying modern morons are based on such presuppositions...with God, as defined by Abrahamics, being the most popular.
Thousands of imbeciles have wasted millions of hours debating a concept, they name God, which they have already presupposed and then debate as if it were not a fabrication in their mind.

The psychological roots of the singularity, the 1/0 binary system, have been adequately explored and described here on KT.
unless a better explanations, or a comparable challenge is found, they remain solid.

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In the basement of the degenerate infrastructure 'intellectuals' concoct flattering justifications, and call their nullification of nature a revolt against god, and rename their idealization of self a sovereignty of the spirit, liberating itself from the past.They think themselves outside when they are buried, opening their doors and widows to subterranean caverns to let the dirt in.
A dead person would feel free from the woes of life.

Rebelliousness towards nature is an admission of revulsion towards the past and all that determined you.
It holds court over a fantasy, and has sycophants and fools for companions.

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In its mind the degenerate builds it empires, in its mind it is its own god, and if it senses that its mind is insufficient it worships another's.
The body is always present re-minding it of its imperfections, its dependencies, and its limitations.
The physical is despised by the mind, if it is not converted to idea(l).
Then it is placed on a pedestal, in the altars it has erected to itself.

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The degenerates either/or binary thinking, or emoting, is part of their simplicity.
Dualistic stupidity.
Jared Taylor touched upon it when he described a conversation he had, with a liberal female, over race differences and how this results in performance differences.
She told him, after he had presented some convincing arguments that "If this is so, then we'll have to exterminate them".
I've also faced this reaction.

If there are races then they ought to be exterminated, or abused.
This would be like saying that if there are species differences that all species should be slaughtered or abused.
The absolute one or the absolute nil.
If not one, then nil.
No gradation.
So, if there is no absolute evidence, then this is reason enough to dismiss it absolutely.

Of course they do not apply this emoting in all areas.
If it insults, frightens, or causes any discomfort then they go for the absolutes.
If not, then a minuscule amount of evidence, is enough to validate it.
They cannot think in probabilities.
What is more or less probable....what is more or less intelligent, strong, knowledgeable, and so on.
It must be absolutely proven, if they do not like it, otherwise anything is possible.

In racial issues they demand an extreme divergence....something more than appearances....something so obvious not even they can deny it....in other words absolute, indisputable, proof, otherwise the differences are too insignificant, or not enough, or they reserve their right to doubt it until a future date....
Very skeptical....to the point of cynicism.
But if they do like the hypothesis then the slightest possibility is enough for them to hold onto the belief.
No matter how much evidence, how many arguments you make, if in their mind they have the slightest possibility to deny, then they will sue it to dismiss the entire thesis, or to say that it is just as possible as any other.
Absolutist thinkers...Nihilists.  
If there is no absolute, universal morality, like form God, then no other definition of morality will do.
If there is no evidence of an absolute God, or the Abrahamic version of the concept, then no other definition of god is acceptable.
If there is no singularity, then all is nil.
If life is not perfect, not entirely pleasing, then it is not worth living.
If there is no absolute order, absolute certainty, then all is worthless, all is equally meaningless.
If it isn't eternal, indivisible, immutable, perfect, whole, then it is nil.  

Binary = 1/0
Dualism = if not absolute good, then absolute bad.
They understand most words in this way - truth, beauty, intelligence, love, power, one, nil....

I call this an argument from the negative...
If there is no absolute proof, then anything is equally possible, or everything is equally impossible.
God was the source of absolute knowledge....then the State took this position in the minds of the infantile....now its Humanity.
Humanity by vote....No absolutes means every human idea is equally valid, so we must decide this by a vote.

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I would worry that I have done something wrong, something to discredit my own principles, if degenerates began to value me.

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Jared Taylor touched upon it when he described a conversation he had, with a liberal female, over race differences and how this results in performance differences.
She told him, after he had presented some convincing arguments that "If this is so, then we'll have to exterminate them".
I've also faced this reaction.

I presume this was done in an attempt to morally attack the recognition of racial differences?

I guess we will pretend that races don't exist because then nobody can accuse us that we destroyed distinctive people with our currently in vogue social politics.

Maybe that female wasn't having any issues with the extermination of people after all, it's just that she prefers to lie about it, deny their existence when inconvenient.


In the old days people used to justify their beliefs.
Today you pretend that you don't have any specific beliefs and that you are one of those "individuals" who are whatever it is convenient to be in a given conversation or argument while you attack the other by claiming that they are not living up to an ideal that you have set up for them.
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