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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Apr 08, 2022 2:25 pm

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:09 am

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:45 am

*When Hellenism came in contact with Judaism the conflict begins over who will corrupt the other.
Hellenism had already conquered Rome, from the inside, and now threatened to Hellenised the Jews. In the meantime, Judaism was undermining and corrupting Hellenism.
When two incompatible world-views come in contact cross-contamination begins - memetic warfare.
In this case the masculine spirit of Hellenism came in conflict with the feminine spirit of Judaism - the aristocratic with the victim.
Of course in a world where natural selection was gradually being usurped by social selection - multiplying desperate degenerates or "spiteful mutants", viz., compounding mutations that were protected from natures selection and filtering process - via feminine agency - therefore the dogma that offered justification and comfort to growing numbers of individuals that would not be alive if not for the protection of human social systems, would be more inclined to be seduced by the dogma that offered relief, no matter how irrational or nihilistic. In fact the more irrational it is, the more nihilistic it is, all the more relief it offers to those who find existence intolerable; irrationality would be a rejection of rationalism exposing mind to a world that remained indifferent, unjust, and brutal to life. Natural selection cares not for the suffering of individuals so whatever provided relief to individuals who have inherited traits that are not competitive, that increase their suffering, would be attractive.
Whatever offered inclusion to those who feared exclusion would be attractive.
Whatever provided meaning, purpose to those that could not find one, or create one on their own, would be attractive.
Whatever offered an alternative - even if a negation - to a brutal, indifferent, unjust world, would be attractive.

*Logos was corrupted by Judaism to create Christianity.
Words preceded deeds and the word became ontology - not a symbol of an interpretation of existence but existence itself.
Word/Symbol = god of the Christians.
Nihilists reject this when they rebel to nullify the world, rendering symbols/words meaningless, as if this could save them from reality.
Now the symbol/word is taken away from a divine agency and is placed in the mind of man, to create world according to his will.
They still remain entrenched in the ideology that symbols/words create existence - if not the word of god then the words of man. By making words meaningless they believe they can "escape" or "correct" existence.

*The Jews have created nothing uniquely their own - all they do is appropriate and contribute or corrupt - except one thing.
Their great innovation was that they made themselves into god - they abstracted their collective and made it into their god, essentially worshipping themselves.
The narrative of being chosen is an allegorical way of describing their history of being ostracized and expelled - rejected - by every nation host they came in contact with, because of their adopted reproductive and survival strategy, so when god chose them this means that they chose themselves as a deity.
This was so innovative all the world downtrodden, desperate, lost souls wanted to adopt it but this would make Judaism less potent, i.e., if all could be chosen then what value would being chosen have? Which is what Christianity offers. If all are loved and deserving of love then what value does love have?
The insinuation is that natural selection is replaced when a divine agency selects all - so whatever exists has been selected by divinity; has been chosen, i.e., expression of a free-will.
Choice is how free-will is expressed so if all is chosen by a divine agency then it has free-will and nothing else, because all subsequent choices are determined by this agency - whatever you may call it: god, universe, order, will etc.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:09 am

Watching what was the alt-right slip into christianity has been demoralizing for me.
It's understandable that they were doxed, lied about in the media, infiltrated, incriminated, broken apart - but their way of coping is telling. Instead of doubling-down on their convinctions with regard to race they back off into a deradicalized, less real, more universalized and abstract identitarianism. I guess the vagueness of 'god said so' is now more appealing than a more materialist argument. But it shows they had no real faith in the justness of their cause from the start, which is ironic. They always kept a sense of guilt within them that what they were doing was naughty... and so all it took was a mild reprimand to set them back on the straight and narrow.
I've seen people argue that empiricism is 'materialist' and therefore invalid because their god is something that cannot be understood by human minds, that 'spirituality' is something that occurs on a more elevated level than petty materialism and so they are literally above needing proof for any claim.
It's because of this kind of stupidity that they don't realize that this puts any claim no matter how irrational or insane on an equivalent footing to theirs, since no real proof is needed beyond 'it satisfies my psychological needs therefore it feels true'.
All in all these people have been quite effectively neutered as any sort cultural force. By cornering them into this impotent position they're basically non-entities on the field of ideas.
Another thing is that if anyone remembers the mid-2000s Dawkins cult of shitlib atheists: all that would be needed to completely annihilate the remnant of the alt-right would be a brief return to those tactics. They weren't able to deal with them then and certainly in their degenerated state of nowadays they would fade away even faster.
It's pathetic.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon May 02, 2022 5:16 pm

Price had a falling out with MythVision when he exceeded his critique to go beyond Christian bashing.
Because pissing on Christianity is "cool", because Nietzsche did it, but one should not cross the permitted lines and approach the postmodern sacred.
There's enough of Rome in Christianity - Byzantium included - to make it fir game for the self-mutilated ones, and their minions, to tolerate.
Marxism is, after all, a replacement - secularization - eliminating all the lingering Hellenic symbolisms - even if in a very corrupted form.
Nothing that hints of Hellas, Rome and Indo-Europeans, is tolerable to Americanism, unless some arbitrary historical revision has been used to circumcise it through symbolic castration converting the masculine to a feminine form, i.e., all words and no deeds.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue May 03, 2022 6:57 am

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:30 pm

Platonic idealism is at the root of Abrahamism, Gnosticism - and consequently Kabbalism - and modernity/postmodernity.

The idea that there is a perfect world and the experienced world is somehow a lower state, a fallen state.
Messianism permeates "western man".

Nihilism is the expression of disapproval and disillusionment with a world that lacks what the mind insists it must be - projecting into the world its noetic fabrications and gradually discovering them to be void of content.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:42 am

Boman, Thorleif wrote:: It is thus proven beyond doubt that the Assyrians and Babylonians conceived of the divine word under the image of a physical-cosmic power.
In Egypt, the power of creating and of sustaining everything was traced back of the divine world.

Boman, Thorleif wrote:: Even for Philo, the greatest mind of the Jewish Diaspora, Plato was the great teacher, and his attempt, resting on inner conviction, to unite Platonism and Judaism shows that even Jews saw and felt the spiritual kinship of Platonic and biblical ideas.

Appropriated, corrupted/mutated, and then passed on as novelty, to be propagated and appropriated by others....and so Christianity and Islam inherit their spirituality.

Boman, Thorleif wrote:: A comparison with Plato’s philosophy is worthwhile, because the religious spirit inhering in it is most closely associated with the biblical spirit, and the ideas that come to expression through it are best able to be compared with the biblical ideas.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Jul 17, 2022 9:17 am

Jesus a madman?
Perhaps, only another zealot infected by Judaism and its messianism, claiming to be divine.
Anti-world, anti-nature, anti-reality. How could he not have been anti-family, anti-ethnicity, anti-life?
Superstitious maniac carrying his people's neurosis, like a moral badge of honour.
Herd psychology - collectivism.
Worship of the collective: mankind is god, creator of worlds, creator of morals, and order.
Marxism.
Postmodernism.
The succession is clearly demarcated, from spiritual nihilism - one god as a goal if not as a existent absolute - into secular variants of the same psychosis, the same personality disorder.
Personality being a manifestation of organ hierarchies, relative to environmental circumstances.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:25 am

Jones has his Christian blinders, inverting reality - in classic nihilistic form.

Denying the one-god is a sign of a healthy relationship with a biological fahter-figure, not a dysfunctional one. Abrahamism promotes a dysfunctional relationship with their biological fathers, replacing him with an idealized alternative.
I heard this ion a podcast, featuring Oliver Stone, reflecting my views on the boyhood to manhood rite fo passage:
From idealizing, to antagonizing (demonizing), to humanizing.

A boy begins by idolizing his father - thinking of him as a god - then he demonizes him - he can do no good - and finally we returns to him, as man, humanizing him.
Abrahamism is stuck on the first and second phase: they demonize their earthly fathers and idealize an imagined, abstract, father figure, no real man can ever match.
They can never complete the rites of passage into manhood and become trapped in adolescence - see ILP and how it is full of men-chidren - disillusioned fahter-less boys that have failed to become men.
And because they have no clue what real manhood is they imagine it in hyperbolic terms- infected with Abrahamic idealism.
Hypermasculine is a symptom of missing fahter-figures.
Boys with no fahjter-figure to see what a real, biological, man acts and thinks, unleashes his boyish fantasies, drawing inspiration form Hollywood bullshyte, and porn, and media, and pop-music, adjusting themselves to that fantasy standard.
But a fantasy can ever be matched, nor surpassed, so there they remain, in adolescent hyperbole, failing constantly to become real men; rebelling against everything real, because it can never match the ideal, the imagined.
The real is "not enough".
A state of perpetual revolution - Trotskyites.
In this E. Jones is correct - Revolutionary Spirit.
This is why Protestants finds common ground with them.

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Adam, and Bjerkness, suffer from the opposite psychosis.
They overestimate the enemy, seeing him behind everything and everyone.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jul 22, 2022 8:44 am

Paradise - spiritual nihilism's fantasy of an ideal state.
Utopia - secular version of Paradise - earthly Paradise.

An imagined state of stagnation - peace - imagined as perfection.
Static - unchanging change - absolute.
Anti-Nature.
Anti-Life.
An end....
Death impulse.
Eternal sleep - dreaming a perfect world; living in an ideal, private world of your own making - man as god the dreamer. Subjectivity.
Living Death - Zombification.

In the movie Matrix the pods containing sleeping individuals depicts inter-subjectivity.
Brains, with no bodies, in a Vat.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:06 pm

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:48 pm

For a connection of Saturn, Baal, Baphomet, Remphan, Moloch, Fire and Death - Saturnian Cults and Abrahamism visit the thread on Abrahamism posted in Hyperborea.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:55 pm

Idealization creates irrationality, creates impossible justifications; the loss of knowing what the ideal represents, the loss of the objective.

Subject: Re: Abrahamism Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:30 am

Abrahamism is not a racial category, it is a political, ideological, category.
There are no races called Judaism, Islam, or Christian.
Not all Semites are Jews; not all Jews are Semites.
Not all Greek Orthodox are Hellenes; not all Hellenes are Greek Orthodox.
Not all Roman Catholics are Roman, Italian; not all Italian Romans are Catholic.

They conflate genetic lineage with ideological/dogmatic lineage.
They do so selectively and with an agenda.
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See how they conflate the two on Hyperborea....in that thread.
You know the one.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Fri Jul 29, 2022 6:42 pm

Abrahamics measure their faith by how long they can remain true to their own ethical codes, and then how they can return to them after they've repented.
Christians use confession and church to cleanse them from their 'sins' – meaning, their lack of faith and inability to abide by their own ethical codes.
Muslims use self-flagellation, and self-sacrifice to cleanse away their, inevitable, failures.
Jews explain their historical persecutions as the result of divine disapproval of their commitments to the covenant they made; punishment for not being ethical enough – integrating failure and suffering, into their faith.

Those that remain true over long periods of time become canonized as ideals to be emulated – saints or prophets – only hearing them but never experiencing them, and for those whose saintliness was true, at what cost?
Denial of self; sacrifice of their life, and their only passage through existence as a conscious entity.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:16 am

Beware the Prophets of the Feminine Imperative.[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Replace "Christian" with any of the three variants - Christian, Islam, Judaism and the multitude of sub-variants.

Feminization of Man

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:17 am

Translation from Indonesian.

Quote :: Russian Troops Visit Cathedrals of a Number of Cities in Ukraine, Once Targeted by Artillery

This is why you need religion, or some kind of metaphysics for the mediocre.
You can't cultivate fearless, selfless Jihadists, or zealots, or crusaders with talk about ethnicity and blood.
Not after centuries of dumbing-down indoctrinating nihilistic spirituality.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sat Aug 13, 2022 8:44 am

Heidegger: Catholicism is implicated in the rise of modern mass individualism with its notion of a God that creates the world out of nothing, the first cause, not rooted anywhere, transcending all peoples, proclaiming the same values for everyone. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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And so this delusion of something from nothing leads straight to postmodernism, and its individualistic notion that identity, morality, and sexuality is rooted in the nowhere and nothing, every individual a divinity, transcending all cultures and values, proclaiming the universality of no-values – individual little gods living in their own private worlds.

Dasein = being there,. thrown into the world, not from nowhere and nothing; no first cause - no tabula rasa.
A continuum.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Aug 15, 2022 9:55 am

Superstition begets superstition...and conviction converts ideas into actions.

As I've said:

When two antithetical world-views, based on diametrically different cultures - memes - come in contact, cross contamination occurs.
No synthesis is possible, so a corruption, mutation, occurs.
When Hellenism came in contact with Judaism, Christianity was the by-products - Judaized Hellenism - which evolved it Marxism, its secular form, and now has evolved into Postmodernism, after the Frankfurt School adjusted it.

Zionism was how Judaism was affected by this contact - Hellenized Judaism.
So, Judaism and Zionism are at odds, due to this Hellenic corruption, just as Hellenism is at odds with Christianity.
Satanism is how paganism is Judaized, returning to tis pre-Jewish era, when Jews were Semites, but unable to abandon its faith.
Zionism is in control of America - it is Americanism. It's original Anglo-Saxon, Protestantism is all but gone - is self-destructed, committed ethnic suicide.
It now promotes ethnic suicide as its ideal - its global model all must abide by.
All cultures must be erased or converted to a product on the open markets - made into a fashion, a trend; all ethnicities must be miscegenated - "healed" of their distinctiveness.
Tikkun Olam - healing the world - returning it to its original uniformity.
Monotheisms is the objective. Universal authoritarianism, totalitarianism - they sell it as a state of peace, i.e., no conflicts, no agon, no "war" in the Heraclitan sense...a state of absolute order - singularity.
No more possibilities, probabilities...only certainty.
No more anxiety, no more stress....all are relieved.

All superstitions. Zealotry, fanaticism.
Self-Fulfiling prophesies - using the same methods as they do in astrology - power of suggestion.
Power of Nil.

Greene - and Bjerknes - of course, react to this fanaticism this superstitious extremism and becomes himself extreme...he succumbs to the superstitions of conspiracies and imagines them as omnipotent and omnipresence - paranoia simplifies, unable to differentiate and distinguish a threat, so it imagines as being everywhere - like when we are in darkness and fear what we cannot perceive.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:53 am

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What zey believe.
This corrupted Hellenism, when the two diametrically different world-views came in contact, producing - in the west -Christianity...and then Marxism......and producing - in the east - a corrupted version of Hellenism called Zionism.
Satanism is how Abrahamism corrupted and redefined Hellenic occultism - Orphism.
In the west Judaized Hellenism, and in the east Hellenized Judaism.
Both sides were corrupted by the other...though Judaism maintained itself in Orthodox Judaism. They despise Zionism for the reasons I've given: no degree of Hellenism, i.e., heathenism, Indo-Euorpean paternalism/traditionalism, is tolerable.
Hellenism was open to new perspectives, Judaism is not.
This makes Hellenism and the west vulnerable to such corruptive infestations.
Hellenism is an inverted eight, 3/E-epsilon....outwardly open; Judaism, like all nihilistic dogmas, is an enclosure, a oneness, tolerating nothing that contradicts its self-referential, linguistic premises/promises.

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Nihilism inverts the tria/epsilon to form an eight - 8
An enclosure.
Eternity is encolsed...by the divine.
A contradiction.
There is no eternity enclosed, and no infinity that is whole.
An enclosure is finite.
They deal with this by using words - warping words by detaching them from the active/actual. Words referring to words - self-referential.
Words taken literally rather than what they are: representations of interpretations of the world.
Using this self-serving technique they create the absurdity of an finite infinity; a certain uncertainty; a one nil.

Listen to how zey appropriated from all the hosts they came in contact with, gradually incorporating all these cosmogonies into their own, in a corrupted form.
Zey worship chaos because zey believe they can reorder existence. Therefore, first zey must undermine all order, i.e., all traditions, all societies, all cultures...all natural order.

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:55 pm

Felton, Greg wrote:

Some Orthodox Jews to this day deem the State of Israel to be a blasphemy.
Within this community, a group called Neturei Karta, Aramaic for ‘Guardians of the City’ (Jerusalem), has since 1938 been fighting to keep
Judaism separate from Zionism:

Quote :: Judaism believes in One G-d who revealed the Torah. It affirms Divine Providence and, accordingly, views Jewish exile as a punishment for sin. Redemption may be achieved solely through prayer and penance. Judaism calls upon all Jews to obey the Torah in its entirety including the commandment to be patriotic citizens.
Zionism rejects the Creator, His Revelation and reward and punishment. Among its fruits are the persecution of the Palestinian people and the spiritual and physical endangering of the Jewish people. It encourages treasonous, dual loyalty among unsuspecting Jews throughout the world. At its root, Zionism sees reality as barren and desacralized. It is the antithesis of Torah Judaism…

Jews are not allowed to dominate, kill, harm or demean another people and are not allowed to have anything to do with the Zionist enterprise, their political meddling and their wars.
Because Zionism violates basic tenets of Mosaic tradition, Jewish elites had difficulty expanding their power within their own community, and so were forced to seek support among Zionist Christians, even though the teleology of evangelical Christianity is decidedly anti-Jewish.

[The Host and The Parasite - How Israel’s Fifth Column Consumed America]

Felton, Greg wrote:: CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
Although Zionism is commonly associated with Jews and Theodore Herzl‘s 1896 book Der Judenstaat [The Jewish State], Christians were the first modern Zionists. To all intents and purposes the founder of the movement was the renegade Anglican cleric John Nelson Darby (1800–1882).

[The Host and The Parasite - How Israel’s Fifth Column Consumed America]

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Mon Aug 22, 2022 3:46 pm

More fantasies about America being destroyed in the end times.
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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:59 am

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Aug 30, 2022 1:56 pm

Paglia, Camille wrote:: Most people want comfort, approval, authority: "Hence the Pope has all that regalia." Paglia thinks the pomp and ceremony of Roman Catholicism are pagan remnants; she loves it. In the last twenty years, the American Catholic Church has downplayed all that. Paglia agrees it's now more authentically Christian but mourns the loss, in aesthetic terms.

Sex, Art, and American Culture (essays)

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Subject: Re: Abrahamism Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:58 pm

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