Free-Will

What does the rejection of free-will imply?

That everything is in accordance with divine will, or an external, entirely omnipotent agency.
This warning against free-will is clear in the Testament narrative concerning Adam and primordial sin.
The Promethean gifts (Satan), are to be sacrificed, returned, surrendered to the only permitted willful agency.

Innocence preserved:
It's not that people choose, freely, to fight against evil, or Satan, but it is that they have been determined, chosen, to act in accordance with divine will, i.e., universal order, oneness...
Satanism is the corruption of paganism....and so natural order must be "corrected" or "healed" from its 'Satanic, Promethean, corruptions" that have wrongly gifted man the "problem" of choice.
Choice is to be rejected to return to God's Garden.

This is reaffirmed in Abraham being gifted a son who is then asked as a sacrifice proving his worthiness - his submission to god's will.

*There is no "uncaused cause" - free-will, when both concepts are properly defined, does not require it.
The act of willing is a participating factor in what is determined - via choice.
Subsequent consequences, properly evaluated, lead to another choice. Choice can and does adjust to consequences - 'will' adjusts to the effects it participates in determining.

*Freedom does not require an "uncaused cause," since it measures the will's power, via its available and accessible options.
There is no freedom from the past (nature) - sum total of previous nurturing.
Will is an agency in the perpetual dynamic present - past made present - acting as an agency, participating in the flux - becoming.....existing.

*Conscious awareness of choice is unnecessary, and may even be detrimental.
Judgement is unconscious, expressed as choice. Control of unconscious judgements must be conscious - replacing innate unconscious judgements, leading to a specific range of choices, with a new, conscious judgment, adjusting the available range of choices available to an individual as options to select from (choose).

*Moral responsibility alludes to a collective....also unnecessary.
There is, primarily, responsibility.....no moral component necessary.
Consequences for choices are not required to be moral or amoral...
If I kill it doesn't matter if there's a moral code being broken.....the consequences affect me one way or another.
A bug kills another bug....this affects its environment, to whatever degree, and this affects it, viz., the bug killed may have carried a disease that could have affected mammals which impact the environment the killer bug lives in...leading to consequences that impact its welfare...and so on.

*There are no objectively good/bad consequences.....but only subjectively so.
All choices produce both good & bad consequences, forcing the individual to adjust....wilfully and consciously, or, in the case of lower animals, intuitively.
Consequences teach - stored in memory - adjusting an individual's guiding precedents - two sources of memories DNA and experiential. Innate - genetic - judgements change, over time, with the addition of experiences.
Judgements can be adjusted, over time - changed,, sharpened, or supressed.
Drives are of the body.....reason is of the mind.
Mind usurping body is the foundation of nihilism - reaching the extreme of the present transsexual neurosis.

*Nietzsche was obsessed with Christianity - unconsciously fighting or trying to overcome his own father.
Choice, given by god to Adam & Eve is a ruse - a trick not performed by the snake. It is a metaphor for god himself - Abraham's totalitarian, vindictive, vain, one-god.
Adam & Eve have no real choice, other than to have a choice or to surrender it to the divine.
Abrahamism didn't invent shame and guilt, it weaponized it and exploited it to control.

*Will To Power.
With no free-will, what is Nietzsche saying about 'will'?
Who or what is willing?
Who is, or what is willing power? No doubt that which is powerless or is uncertain about its power.
Has he discovered god's death, and has he identified mankind as being guilty, or has he remade the exact same god into an idea, absolving mankind of all culpability?
What has been murdered, if it survives? Was Jesus murdered, when he was reportedly resurrected?
What guilt was absolved when Adam had no real choice but to be what god made him to be?
Shame & Guilt are, also, unnecessary. An individual need not feel anything in regards to his judgements and choices, for these choices to manifest negative consequences. Consequences do not require of him to acknowledge them, or feel anything about them.

*An animal feels no shame....feels no guilt, yet it suffers the consequences of its judgements and choices.
Degenerates always frame free-will within shame and guilt - social judgement, collective punishment.
This is entirely unnecessary.
Only man can project his consciousness in space/time; only man can feel shame and guilt; only man can feel regret.

*Evading regret, is the reward.
But, evading regret also evades adaptation. A mind that does not accept responsibility for what happened to it will repeat the same behaviours, indefinitely perpetuating the negativity.

*Some degree of agency is essential - necessary - for evolution, natural selection, to produce life.
Chaos, properly defined, is the issue.
Agency is what adaptation, learning, cultivation, means, otherwise we return to divine telos.....all is fated, part of a cosmic plan.
Thy will be done...

*Why would judgement and choice even be necessary if all were inevitable?

escaping regret has become passionate work for those who, having overcome mythological divine retribution, now seek relief from a lifetime of guilt and shame, recollecting bad decisions preoccupies the mind in unproductive unwanted consequences.
Eternal damnation once it is overcome is confronted by temporal damnation, and self imposed condemnation.
Relief from suffering will find loyal supporters among throngs fleeing their own internal demons.

Our strongest alliances are founded on shared denials.
Affirmation requires contestations and are best kept secret, confessed only through vague generalities that could be, once again, denied.
To be held in high regard by as many as possible, for the longest periods of time, always necessitates the preservation of paths escaping the tangled growths of your judgments, either through humble admission of error, or through maintained obscurity, preserving escape routes through feigned misunderstandings.
Our best of friends, like our worse enemies, need our imperfections to be openly and constantly admitted and meticulously cultivated.
Hater or lover need to feel affinity directing their passions.

The act is what contradicts human ideas.
The empirically act; the experienced act - the act of choice.
Entirely unnecessary in a an entirely determined, predictable, inevitable world; unnecessary in a perfectly ordered world.
Imperfection is the "anomaly."
Imperfect, incomplete, uncertain judgements in an uncertain, incomplete, imperfect world - "imperfection" described as a state of "fallenness," implying a high state of absolute perfection, i.e., a "corrupted" world, corrupted by...chaos...., implying a state of lawfulness, of complete absolute order.

Again...the "problem" is the experienced world that shows no completeness, no certainties, no finality...no indivisible, immutable singularity.
All these are human abstractions with no external referents; abstractions that invert and contradict observable reality.

Choice is not the "problem" but an attempted solution - adaptation - to a problem; the problem for life is chaos.
That which cannot be adapted to; that which cannot be predicted, foreseen.
solution?
Real-time reactivity - necessitating the usurping of precedent....to find creative solutions to novel challenges.

Choice is adaptation in practice - sensually perceived and evaluated....
Choice is natural...SELECTION...not natural determination, i.e., Deus.
Selection, choice....

Listen to what recovering Abrahamics are implying when they deny human agency: that all successes and failures are divine in origin....according to an external agency, an external power, will.
The outcome, the end is inevitable.....teleological.
The end determines the cause. Nothing is determined, it has been determined from the start.
All is happening as it has forever....as it will again and again...preserving immortality through a dogmatic, ideological back-door.

Suffering is preordained.

Satyr wrote:

*Will To Power.
With no free-will, what is Nietzsche saying about 'will'?
Who or what is willing?
Who is, or what is willing power? No doubt that which is powerless or is uncertain about its power.
Has he discovered god's death, and has he identified mankind as being guilty, or has he remade the exact same god into an idea, absolving mankind of all culpability?
What has been murdered, if it survives? Was Jesus murdered, when he was reportedly resurrected?

*Why would judgement and choice even be necessary if all were inevitable?

This is why Nietzsche, the overman, is meant to be overcome. It’s why he adored Dionysus so much. The blind submission to creative power, to will; power for powers sake, was what he offered. But nothing more. Interesting he didn’t point out this contradiction to Nietzsche’s criticism of free will, by contrasting it with his overman ideal, as the overman is an embodiment of self-determination, self-creation, creation of values, and free will. These Nietzsche scholars fall under the spell of his wisdom and romanticism, and lose the ability to analyze him seriously and objectively.

If events, actions and consequences only happen to an individual, instead of the individual making them happen, and they are not the cause of them, then the need of an identity, the need of a ‘self’ becomes superfluous. Because blind physical interactivity itself has no will, no consciousness, no willing towards anything. So then what ‘source’ do intentional actions derive from, if not from an organism of consciousness, if not from oneself? God? If there are no choices, then logically, it follows that there is no self that is making them. But, then, why would the hypocrites, who believe this tripe, go on to appear before others that they take accountability for their actions, or appear to be ‘ethical’ or to have beliefs? A fun pretentious, self-deluding game they like to play, for shits and giggles? Or, if they truly do believe they are not responsible and have no choices, despite their actions creating consequences that result in effectuating others holding them responsible, and positive or negative events occurring from their actions which shape who they are, then they are as a delusional religious fanatic who would believe that God made them do it, and the world simply does not understand. God/casual determinism. This is how determinism becomes divine, causality as a divine consciousness. This is also why Nietzsche became enamored with Spinoza.

Like the Merovingian in the Matrix. If all is absolutely caused and no choice is possible, then how is asking “why” possible, as he alludes in the film? Asking why would be an assertion, an act, an effect of one's free will. Moreover, what would be the need to ask “why” anyway, when all questions have been determined and answered, would it not make asking why or possessing power, impossible? Cue the laugh track of the Joker. Helplessness before absolute order, then transmutes into helplessness before absolute chaos, and the absurd. Yet, both stances still deny choices and the self is still made slavish and rejected as possessing any power over its circumstances. Seeking an absolute solution is what creates this discontent, this tedious existential malaise.

Take Iamafreak on ILP as a perfect example. A self-proclaimed moral, determinist nihilist. And yet, deep down, all he is, is a run of the mill, fucktarded postmodern SJW leftist, a cultural Marxist, with beliefs in liberal and gender equality and all the other mindless bullshit such positions ascribe to. A delusional self-deceiving charlatan, professing to the impossibility of any valuation, meaning or objectivity, and still, secretly holding values, meaning and objectivity for himself. He still clings precisely to a set of values and beliefs that are predisposed manifestations of his nature. He’ll never admit it outright of course, because he’s a degenerate liar, who needs the lie to keep up his pretense before others, that he has built up his whole life now. But he hints at it, exposes himself, here and there, because he must, because his ideological ruse is all bullshit. The others who interact with him don’t pick up on it because they are clueless morons, which is why they keep interacting with him, but I pick up on it, I see.

Indeed....

First thing to keep in mind...nobody is a god....so Nietzsche is not right because he is Nietzsche.
I know many men-children became enamoured by his psychological insights and his romanticism and his eloquent style....and his intelligence; they were seduced by him.
Myself, I found nothing metaphysically new in his works. His psychological insights were more useful.
Even his Will to Power is a derivative of Schopenhauer, adjusting the psychological solution, and approach....

Power is the key word.
Will is the given.
Power is not omnipotence.....and the fact that one must will power indicates a tenuous grasp and/or a lack.
Freedom is measured by power, and power is measured by freedom.
Power to overcome resistance, increases options....which is another way of saying freedom.

But, yeah, morons shoot themselves in the foot, and then call their painful hoping about an "eloquent" dance.

So, who is willing power if man has no agency?
This would imply that god, through man, is the only one willing...but then this god would be lacking power or not fully certain of its power, otherwise why would it need to continuously will it?

Will to....the 'to' - towards - indicates movement.
So, movement, momentum is Heidegger's thrownness...to be thrown is to have a momentum....
All metaphorical ways of saying existence is dynamic and we are all constantly interacting, or moving towards....
Will is the focus of this towards....gathering and directing movement/momentum...
This movement is not a quality of self, it IS self....

As I've said... what differentiates life from non-life is intent, will....or choice.
Non-living unities can only move towards paths-of-least-resistance - have no intent, no choice - but life can move towards an objective, despite more resistance.
So, life is a constant overcoming, determined by its aggregate powers - choice is about what is perceived to be accessible and available...We can perceive an option we cannot choose because we lack the power.
Power increases the options we can choose from.....so power=freedom=quantity and quality of options to choose from....
once a choice is made these options collapse....and a new options emerge and branch out...

Dionysian also has the component of chaos in it.
Apollo is all order, but Dionysus is also chaos.
Dancing to Dionysian tunes is to adjust to chaos; the unforeseeable, the unpredictable...dancing to a sometimes unmelodious tune....dance of the intoxicated....because chaos lacks rhythms, patterns, and is like noise...

To preserve god desperate degenerates must rename him absolute order universe.
Nothing can contradict god's will....
Secular nihilists =- recovering Abrahamics - have done away with the primordial sin ruse.
They are now 'beyond good and evil' or sin....and so innocent, needing no redemption, no salvation.
They are born innocent, and will-less....so they can do no wrong.....they can make no error.

They never bite the forbidden fruit - they deny having a choice. Whatever they do is not of their choice.
They preserve Paradise as an inevitable future, because they have not corrupted existence with their willfulness.

Nietzsche's eternal return indicates that nothing can be chosen which was not intended....eternally.
They preserve immortality in this way.
They are not immortal, their mortal life is eternal...
They will relive the same life because - unlike Hinduism - there is no memory, and no choice to do otherwise.
Eternal Lethe - eternal forgetfulness.

Will to Power is not their will...it is a Will other than....They are but the 'to'.....neither 'will' nor 'power.'
They are the will-less, powerless movement....
See iamretarded here....

Life is a joke....not even a test.
A farce.
Saying "yes" to this farce is affirming their will-less impotence.
They will eternally relive the same life because they are impotent to do anything other than what god, universe, intended....
Christianity is overcome....Christianity that weaponized shame and guilt...
The Last man is shameless, guiltless, will-less...eternally innocent.
Nothing they do is of their doing.....
Transsexuality, paedophilia, necrophilia etc., is part of the universal plan. The one and only universal plan.

God did not die....nobody murdered him.....or, god was "crucified" just like Jesus to be reborn, redeeming man.
There's no need for all that......man never sins. He has nothing to be ashamed of; he is guilty of nothing.
God is neither good nor evil - like the Jew god, god is both and neither.....so no need for Christian narratives.
God chooses....men have no choice. What men do is all part of god's plan.
Jews explain their own suffering as god's dissatisfaction with them....but do they have a choice?
No, they were chosen.....see how they humbly glorify themselves? See how they remain eternally innocent?

Life is the ideal of Life.

It is the goal and pursuit shared by all life. Because no life truly "self-negates". The basic wiring, the most basic instinct, is to survive. This can be overridden, with excessive force, after maturation (but not before). But even these overrides are justified "to the benefit of another". Thus a person driven to suicide, believes it is "better for everybody else" that s/he dies. Maybe they're right?

This is not to say that plants "hope" to live another day, but if they had the cognitive abilities, wouldn't they?

Or, at the very least, the instinct of life appears to others that it wants to survive, and this is the core/causal source of its 'Willpower'.


Consciousness arrives very late, in evolution, in life (post-maturation), in textual wisdom built upon centuries of philosophers, etc. Consciousness starts looking 'backward', reminiscient of the past. "Choice" is then seen as something that people had done, not what they 'will' do.

Few people can look "forward". Few people access "The Future". Because what is "The Future", except 'divine' visions, based on a hope, that somebody, or something, some Life extends tomorrow, or immortally? The base hope of Life is to live forward; Life is antithesis to Death. This is the basis of its Rebellion/Resistance/Competition. Life and Death wrestle, fight, compete.

The Ancients termed "The Future" as a Utopia, a "Heaven" if it succeeds, a "Hell" if it fails. These are the primitive, first interpretations of "future". As the millenniums passed, what people know of "The Future" now is slightly more advanced.

Few people think of "Choice" as something yet-to-come, but instead, obsess about choices that "could have been", thus the source for the Abrahamic sense of crippling Shame, Guilt, Repression, and Resentiment.

Dozens, Hundreds, Thousands of generations of families of failed upbringings, failed ambitions, and lowly origin (peasants for a thousand years). This shame is not erased; it is inherited. The "potential" of a man or woman.

Life is the First Ideal.

That you believe, vainly, that you will live tomorrow.

Ignorance is a fundamental ingredient in cognition; to ignore all the dangers of existence.


The first mechanics of cognition was to develop a sense of fear, as a survival mechanism, and then to self-suppress that fear, in order to Rest/Sleep/Lethargy.

Conservatism stems from a life wanting to preserve itself: survive.

Liberalism stems from a life needing to take risks, to leave its secure nest, to find and consume food.

Both are integral forces and necessary.

Primitive man looked upon the sun and its brilliance and imagined occult forces lurking in its incomprehensible power.
Ignorant of modern understanding they believed the sun to be a god, and its light and warmth of divine essence.
Today's men look upon consciousness in the same way.
The sun incomprehensible presence was ascribed to hidden agencies and mysterious powers.....in the same way modern men look upon the manifestation of free-will, through the presence of choice, in a similar way.
What they see must be illusory. Their experience with free-will, via choice, in themselves and in others is explained away as illusion, or attributed to some kind of totalitarian agency, some kind of occult force....some kind of mysterious willful force.

Modern men stand before free-will like primitives did before solar power.
They see it, they experience it, but they cannot believe it.
It must be the cause of something secret, something mysterious, something profoundly absolute - a god by any other name.

i think you've got it backwards. of course the masses believe in free will/choice, they exercise it everyday as consumers, voters. what is incomprehensible is how it works, as the sun's function use to be. now we know nuclear fusion powers the sun, and one day we'll discover the forces behind consciousness. its not magic is it?

Donnasue wrote:

i think you've got it backwards. of course the masses believe in free will/choice, they exercise it everyday as consumers, voters. what is incomprehensible is how it works, as the sun's function use to be. now we know nuclear fusion powers the sun, and one day we'll discover the forces behind consciousness. its not magic is it?

And how is this "backwards"?
Isn't that what I said?
Simpleton.....you have issues with understanding.
Simpleton, isn't that exactly what I said?

The sun was incomprehensible so they explained it using spirits, gods, mystical forces, absolute powers, occult agencies....and so they do the same with another empirical phenomenon, free-will, choice being its experienced manifestation.

Let me simplify it...you retard....
The act of free-will is choice. Choice is the sensually experienced act of free-will.
Nothing abstract.
Man doesn't need to know or acknowledge it.....it is.
Like the sun, imbecile...man didn't have to acknowledge or understand it for it to exist.....

Are you challenging me without knowing why, or what you are challenging?
Are you out to make a name for yourself....out for vengeance?
In your tiny mind did you imagine me being flustered by your Transsexual avatar?
What if you pretend to be a Jew? Will that aggravate me?
What if you pretend to be a woman, or a homosexual...or black? Will that 'get to me'?
Ha!!!
You project....and the way you project exposes your wounds...

Tic, Toc,

shit... science and rational thinking isn't your bag is it? best stay away from it. i know this is why you prefer the word salad, it's natural to you being of a more poetic mindset. but it's quite unfair to expect other people to wade through your loquacious poetry in an attempt to interpret what you mean. especially when you ask so many questions with each post. holy fuck... it's like debating with Wordsworth.

you're equating free-will with nuclear fusion? a black box invented by philosophers to explain choice with a predictable, transparent, mathematically based, material process modelled by modern physics that explains the operation of the sun. nuclear fusion is therefore entirely deterministic and free will is...? can you just clarify that i have this right?

Satyr wrote:

You Project....and the way you project exposes your wounds...

Satyr wrote:

You have no experience with women do you?

sure, whatever you say loquacious. this site is like an open wound exposing your obsession, which you inevitably drive every conversation towards.

Again...you imitate...and this is revealing.

Moron...before I demote you...
Free-will, consciousness, is as complex to us today as nuclear fusion was to primitive man.
And, imbeciles, like you, use this to project their fears and desires and hopes....into the incomprehensible.
All you have is conventional beliefs.

I'm sure intelligent men, in the past, though they knew nothing of fusion, did not fall for the midwit's analysis of the sun as divine, magical, or godly, and its energies as mystical, a product of another hidden agency...
I'm sure they didn't fall for the dimwit's belief that the sun's heat and light was a product of an agency other than the sun itself.

But you didn't get it, did you?
'Cause, you are autistic, and so you use 'autistic' as a projection, an attack, to disarm the adversary you are obsessed with and you try to imitate.
And now, I give you five minutes to say your goodbyes and farewells, before you create another avatar and return and try to "expose me."

Come back as a Jew...you know how passionately I lose my senses around them?
I am also irrationally hateful towards blacks and gays....and women. I'm a misogynist.
None of my positions are objective they are, like your own....entirely subjective, emotionally based...and hedonistic....self-pleasing, self-comforting....word salads.
You get me on a deep level...and that's why you will succeed in bringing me down....

Keep trying.

Ta, Ta,
and
Tic Toc...

Oh...and I'm going to tell you I am watching your performances on ILP, so that you continue to post there your uncreative predictable assaults against me....even if I may not be paying attention....for long periods of time.
I want you to waste your time, and ILP's time, 'exposing me' and with every attempt exposing yourself....you exhibitionist whore you.
You have told me so much about you and your ....trauma.
It's unfortunate, but I am not responsible for your inheritance nor for what happened to you.
I only speak of the real....and if this hurts your feelings, or it offers you no comfort and no aid, it will not dissuade me from speaking the truth, as I see it.
You are free not to read anything i post, of course.
Few do...no?

We all go through shit, man-child....some of us grow stronger and move on...you seem to be unable to do this.
C'est la vie.....

3 minutes left.

Donnasue wrote:

i think you've got it backwards.

This is why these kinds of people destroy everything they get involved in.
They have no capacity to understand what the other is saying, and then they attack their own misunderstandings...
Then, if you ignore them, they follow you around declaring victory, taunting, shitting in every thread...until you have to either leave or expel them.

They destroy everything they come in contact with from sheer stupidity, coupled with underserved arrogance.

Their minds are entirely immersed in conventional thinking differentiating mind/body as primitive man once differentiated the observable from the unobservable....death from life....the natural from the supernatural....the comprehensible from the incomprehensible...

So, although we can witness and sensually experience free-will and consciousness, as primitive man once witnessed and sensually experienced solar energy - including the stars -  or the moon, or gravity, or earthquakes, or meteorites, or solar eclipses....as something magical.....so too today's "modern midwits and dimwits" contained within conventional beliefs of their own age - all are modern in their age - they must make sense of the incomprehensible by dismissing the observable.
So, in the case of free-will, they dismiss the act and use the imagined...some external agency....some occult entity, force....

We experience free-will as choice, but no, it is an illusion....there is no choice.
There is no sun...there's a god there riding a chariot....there's a divine agency there...no solar body.....

Notice another thing about this particular vermin.....having to do with free-will...
He uses "autism" as an insult - having to do with something very personal - and then also accuses me of poetic language.
But autism is the opposite - it's a left-brained dysfunction, unable to be poetic, or think in metaphors....but can only think literally, mathematically....so, in fact, I would be the opposite of autistic.
But he can't step out of the algorithm, the mathematical formula he's been programmed to repeat...so he slips up and uses 'autist' inaporpriately....just like he will use 'Nazi'...
Having zero linguistic talent....taking words literally....or using the emotional trigger to indicate meaning - associating them with pain.
Autist is the diagnosis they gave him and now it is stuck in his brain....like an insult he must unload.

Same with 'Nazi'....he's been raised to associate the term with everything he finds evil....has no clue what it is or what the theory is...all he knows is the emotion it triggers in him....programmed there by a family member. he associates it with everything brutal, aggressive, impolite, inappropriate, violent....like father was.
His obsession is like a broken record - vinal.....he cannot stop.
He must avenge himself against his condition, against those Nazis his grandfather told him about, his father who abused him....he must find closure but he cannot.
I am not his father, not a Nazi, not autistic...
He has no clue what I am, but only knows how I make him feel.
The feeling is the same as the one triggered by the word 'Nazi,' or 'autism,' or "Father,' or anything that makes him feel bad, useless, inferior...

I've become a representation of all that and he must find closure...he must avenge himself against all these emotional, factors.
It doesn't matter what I am saying.....he will challenge it and try to expose it as wrong...as inferior, as nonsense ....to finally rid himself of all that emotional baggage.
If I am proven "wrong" then so will all those people who told him he was autistic, or stupid, or bad, or inferior...
But he can't, because he has no clue what I am saying...it's all "word salads"...nonsense....and everyone who is agreeing with me is pretending....
Closure is impossible...he is trapped in his obsession.
He cannot move on, justifying it in a variety of ways - all of them self-flattering.

Here we are...in a perpetual motion machine - a psychological hole.
Like iamretarded he cannot get out of the linguistic hole he has dug for himself - he feels safe there, now, after all these years.
Endlessly fighting the demons in their minds - declaring victory against all those who no longer want to humour them, or tolerate their annoying psychosis....

Their free-will is enslaved....trapped, handicapped.
Why would they not deny it, as it is denied to them? As if it were another who did it to them.

It's really interesting to watch the mental flip-flopping, back and forth violently, as the cognitive dissonance heats up the dimwit mind with friction and resistance.

The masses understand sports, physicality, the body, and Olympic athletics the best. Most people don't have a Resentiment toward Olympic athletes, or their favorite sports team. They idealize these 'heroes' of athleticism. Most people will admit that they don't have that body/capability/willpower/discipline.

They won't go to sleep, nightly, consumed by anger, revenge, envy, etc. that they are not Olympians.


But when it comes to the Mental aspect, that's much different.

Why can the midwit/dimwit "let it go" when it's physical difference, but not mental difference?

Is it because the mental difference is much more threatening, much more immediate?

Is it because the mental difference is much more a threat to survival?


The higher mind is demonstrating, constantly, consistently, a much higher ability for 'Choice' than the average. It has damning and condemning implications. If the Superior demonstrates a type of "free will" or "choice", that is undeniable to others, in the same way an Olympian performs, then it creates a much, much harder atmosphere for the dimwit to hide in. Her cowardice and mistakes are exposed immediately and repeatedly. Not just in one instance, here and now, but a whole lifetime of cowardly choices and mistakes.

It's much more 'personal'. There's a lot of edumacational propaganda around this too. Western Civilization teaches its populace as children, that the value of the person, and of humanity, is in the mind and mental "choices", pertaining to Humanity and Equality. That mankind, as a specie, is only "Free" insofar as "Rights" are afforded to one-another, that Humanity is valued spiritually and automatically, without even quantifying what it means to be Human, or where these "Rights" supposedly originate. Despite this ignorance, everybody is supposed to be "Free".

So the midwit, dimwit, inevitably confused, cannot orient itself compared to others.

The Physical dominance is allowed—many reasons why this is.

The Mental dominance is not. The masses take it very personally.

These same masses pretend that 'Slavery' did not exist less than a century ago, or that it magically vanished, and does not exist today.

The most severe danger of the Intelligent mind, over the mass of inferiors, is that the masses cannot tell or differentiate, but fear greatly, when Intelligence is not on their side—culturally, politically, socially, morally.

That's why midwits revert to these same old tactics of psychological projection, and scratching for political weaknesses "YOU NAZI!"

Their fear is based on an intelligent mind, that counters everything they were taught (propaganda/dogma) to believe and value, as young children.

'Free' in the concept of free-will does not mean 'free from' 'independence from that past' but it means 'free to' as in 'will to power' or 'will to life'.

Why not both?

"Free from" usually connects to people's inherited potentials and political class.  A child born to abusive, drug-addled parents, who beat the child mercilessly, has no "free from" past potentials.  S/he may likely die, and often they often do.  Now compare to the high-class, high caste child, who is born with the best of parents and nurturing.  The difference of 'nurture', and nature, are not comparable.  A handful of people in the world are born into the "best", most "privileged" positions, without inheriting the hangups that plague most of humanity.  This is the meaning of privilege, without hindrance, compared to others socially and morally.

I'm not saying this is the only mode of freedom, or even the primary one.

"Freedom from" refers to the past.
"Freedom to" refers to the future.
Both are required and important, to distinguish the freedom, now, of a person/individual.

I already explained....you can't be "free from past (nature) because you cannot change what has been determined.
You can only adapt, adjust, yourself to become incrementally independent from what has been determined....changing the choices you made so as to produce new results. This is called learning.
Past informs us, helping us adjust to the present if we wish to produce different results.
This would be impossible if choice were inevitable, and you could not make another choice.

When you make a choice you have a specific quantity and quality of data...experience clarifies the quality so that you can make a different choice from the one you made having experienced the consequences.
Objective is the standard used to evaluate consequences.

Life participates in causality with choice...choice refers to the will.
Will to....not will from...
Freedom qualifies will.
Free refers to the will's power to overcome resistance.
So, Will to Power can also be Will to Freedom...
Power can never become absolute, i.e., omnipotent, because this would indicate infinite power, and so absolute freedom...
Life cannot become totally independent form the past because this would contradict life, as a continuum. Life can only contribute, adjust the past to achieve different consequences which then become part of their past - their nature.
This incremental process is evolution.

The liberal-leftists argue this way.

Your "choice" is not your own, alone. You inherit choices, from your parents, from your grandparents. Thus you are the result of a type of hierarchy of choices. These choices are ongoing, as are their consequences. To be "privileged" is to be born in a position free from the negative choices and consequences of the past. They claim to want this 'Privilege' for others—for example that "white people" should hand over such privileges to "people of color", or if not, then be avenged for 'oppression' of the past.

I lean toward the interpretation of inheritance. Most of humanity doesn't stand a chance. Stupidity, for example, is similar to laziness. Stupid is to the mind, as Lethargy is to the body. Stupid people inherit many generations of stupid relatives. Intelligence then, has a momentum across time and lineage. It is easy for exceptional attributes to decay; but it is difficult to build from the bottom.

Most of Postmodern politics is based on this "freedom from" as "privilege". Its importance cannot be understated.


I'd take the matter futher. Ideals are inherited, purpose, meaning, aspirations.

It's the difference between Greek culture, and Roman, and Jewish. Different cultures, different ideals. How malleable is 3000 years of history??

The purposelessness of existence - not the meaninglessness, because I've explained what meaning is and existence is full of meaning - but the purposelessness is not a negative, but a positive. It, in fact, necessitates free-will.
It is the absence of purpose that makes 'will' necessary and 'free' refer to how much power this will has in creating its own purpose.

These, so called, atheists, amoralists, nihilists, are enslaved to the Abrahamic one-god, to the point that without this absolute they cannot understand language.
They are so addicted to being enslaved, to totalitarianism, that they turn to Marxism and then nihilism to replace this authoritarian one-god of Abraham.
They emotionally need an absolute...either an absolute purpose - to tell them why they exist - or an absolute purposelessness - to excuse themselves from being unable to create a purpose.
They use language to evade...not to clarify but to obfuscate.
This is why they are anti-philoosphers, pretending to be interested in philosophy - friends of wisdom.

They want philosophy to end with them.
They are the Last Men - defeated, desperate and, because they are desperate they become degenerate.
If you know them personally almost all have sexual fetishes...little obsessions they cannot admit to anyone...

Free-Will, properly defined - where both 'free' and 'will' refer to the act of choice and the evaluation of its options - does not contradict natural laws.
'Furthermore natural laws are not indisputable divine commandments but represent man's understanding of natural order.
The presumption that order is all, is another way of secularizing the god of the Testaments....
Also, order is not a singularity...it is another term for patterns, i.e., consistent, repeating, predictable energies.
Not one energy, but multiple kinds of energy....'kind' referring to its particular rhythm, sequence, tempo...
Chaos, which defies human understanding, are energies that are inconsistent, non-repeating, and unpredictable...

Chaos, in fact, necessitates free-will.

Free-will does not contradict natural order, nor causality, but claims to intentionally participate in causality, falling within the range of probabilities permitted by natural laws.