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Mr reasonble wrote:

i gave up reading books a long time ago. they all pretty much say the same thing

there's only so much that can be said, and all of it has been said over and over again forever.

This fag is interesting to me as a prime modern and Americanized specimen.

He is not only a perfect product of his time, but moreover, he embraces it, endears it, honors it. He appreciates his nihilistic identity. A thoroughly mass manufactured Last Man and lovin it. His mind and spirit has been completely transfigured and dominated by his modern nihilism and Americanized degenerate lowly self-hating mentality.

What did Nietzsche say about a prisoner who learns to love his prison? Or the prisoner or slave, who has embraced and learned to love the dream of his freedom, but never try to be free.

"All books say the same thing" when you buy books that do not exceed your intellectual level and that don't challenge the status quo; books written by the average indoctrinated author that repeat the same lies, as self-evident, just to make a buck.
He is admitting that he is inundated by propaganda, repeating the same mantra.
Watch a Hollywood movie and you see the same messages being repeated; watch US media, again, they remain within the same parameters, taking it for granted that their shared lie is indisputable.

Everything else is....conspiratorial.

"There's only so much that can be said"...ha!!
This is also Zoot's position on philosophy.
End of philosophy, end of knowledge, end of history....Last Man.
It's always the same types....middle-class, institutionalized, Americanised, aspiring gangstas, belonging to the "whites", though not really, if you delve deeper they come from miscegenated pasts, including Afro-Asiatic bloodlines, from households with absent or feeble fathers - both Brian and Stan have the physical markers of Asiatic bloodlines.
Americanism is the most determining shared factor - producing the same cynicism; same Americana individualism, seeking open frontiers to escape into; same drug use exposing an addictive personality; same inflated ego overestimating itself as compensation for a deeper insecurities; same worship of  the "criminal", the parasite living no the edge of a society they cannot belong to - in the case of Americanism there is nothing to belong to but an abstraction; same antiauthoritarianism, expressing paternal-issues and yet the same total surrender to shared ideological values, the same ideological "truths", and the same denial of freew-will to preserve personal innocence concerning their life choices.

They've reached the end, and there they found America's last frontier. The last empire.

Schopenhauer had it right....
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A midwit is the most numerous of wits....his level of mediocrity is popular.
He exists among midwits, repeating midwit level understanding.
Their IQ is the end, the edge of all awareness. What is above their level they bring down to their level - interpreting as midwits do...and then mutually support their midwit understandings.
Dimwits support their claim that they are the pinnacle - the peak that has no higher point.

It is also a way of excusing themselves and directing their minds to what is on their level, and interests them the most: hedonism, consumerism...
Another similarity.....they are not having children, remaining un-invested. Becoming narcissistic, egotistical, with nothing to care about other than what offers them an advantage in regards to satisfying needs and gratifying desires.
For them this world is the last world, since they have no claim on anything after their death. So, of course, they would declare this age the last age...because it will be with them in it.

He's resigned and defeated. A slavish pathetic spirit. He knows how inferior he is, how deficient and he has made peace with it. He probably thinks its liberating to him of course because he's vulgar, but this "liberating" feeling is just a feeling, an illusion, and always will be an illusion, never a reality, because he'll never posess the strength to make it one and this he also knows.

This is, i imagine,  why he must constantly pretend to be "happy" in front of others, and carefree. Pretending he has found some source of "freedom" that others haven't found the secret to. He's living a lie of himself. And he knows it. The spirit of this self-knowledge comes through in his cynicism. Ha.

He is the epitome of Thoreau's man of quiet desperation.

He is a product of his environment and his inheritance.
Yes, he seeks to cultivate the illusion of his freedom from everything earthly except himself and his refined pleasures.
Self-Handicapping is - like a peacock's tail - a flaunting of excess. Americanism must display....and then claim to be misunderstood and victimized, due to envy.
Americanism's idealized individualism is a desired detachment from everything other than the subjective.

Being indifferent is a display of detachment - superiority - so ignorance can be confused for courage - indifference to perceived dangers.
But ignorance is not courage.

Anarchism....living on the edge of a herd - finding its interactions blasé, dull, repetitive...pretending to forage in the wilds where they cannot go.
Yet, he brayes echoing the herd's core convictions.....never straying too far from their morals and core beliefs.
He is a rebel in style, fashion, appearances, fabricated aesthetics, not in spirit.
They don't believe difference is anything but apparent, so they seek distinction in appearances - life style, fashion style, aesthetic preferences, i.e., musical tastes, culinary tastes... style of expression, aloofness, his hedonism is refined not like the common herd-member; he's read author's few even know about...but none of this created any discernible rift between himself and the manimals he condescendingly looks down on, exploiting them, manipulating them with his superior wit; his mind remains rooted in the common, none of his refinement having had any discernible effect other than in style.

It's classic self-handicapping.
But self-handicapping requires a receptive audience...so his condescension returns to the same popular themes which he never doubts or abandons.
Even the Mafia worked to support America's dominion. A parasite is invested in the host he belongs to, depends on, even if it attempts to remain other than.
This dichotomy is dealt with with cynicism...like all self-contradicting paradoxes.

I wonder if HistoryBoy has been perusing and taking an interest in KTS.

Kvasir wrote:

I wonder if HistoryBoy has been perusing and taking an interest in KTS.

Does it matter?
He's completely mesmerized by Nietzsche.
Has no free thoughts.

True.

Given his recent interest in the video content we watch, I considered perhaps he was becoming more open to expanding his knowledge, rather than remaining stunted in his Ragner Redbeardian naivete. I'll keep him in the corner of my eye.

Always keeping the exception to a rule in mind....such minds that become so engrossed by a single thinker tend to be easily absorbed into another's "promising" philosophies.
Like an addict who might overcome his alcohol addiction is prone to become addicted to another vice.

One idol is replaced by another....when the need/desire is overwhelming - determined by an individuals particular constitution and personality (organ hierarchy: proportionality, symmetry).
A weak spirit, prone to become a follower will follow anyone...

Fight Club.
Remember the scene where all those men that were 'liberated' from their socioeconomic slavery began to worship and enslave themselves to the one who liberated them?
That was the movie's message.
You cannot free a slavish spirit. It needs a leader...and a charlatan always finds them....their need/desire is like a beacon for exploiters and manipulators.
A charlatan's offering is always through his mediation. His "mentoring" is not liberating - independently verifiable, falsifiable, useful - but is always through the shaman/priestly mentor that the offering can reach tis apex.
We can recognize such charlatanism by one specific 'tell'....their "teachings" are word-specific....
For instance, any guidance based no reality can use any terminology...but not the snakeoil salesman's. His magic is based no a singular terminology - the magic spell must follow a ritual, with particular sequences and words to place the follower into a trance.
Any failure is then blamed on the follower's inability to adhere to the rituals, the word/symbol particular mystical definitions. When the magic fails to produce the expected results then it is the follower's fault for not learning the charlatan teacher's lessons.

Always beware of those that offer great rewards...like riches and power, or pleasures...
The more extraordinary the promise is, the larger the lie being concealed.

The American mind is rootless. Akin to a stunted child, not fully developed and never will be. It wanders, searches, restless, agitated, anxious, unfulfilled, desperately seeking answers to itself, its past, its existential confusion and fixations, things it has never dealt with to ever have established a spiritual foundation or identity. It lusts for knowledge to fill a void.

Jung wrote:

[T]he American presents a strange picture: a European with Negro behaviour and an Indian soul.

This is a wonderful encapsulation.

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All too narcissistic, vulgar and idiotic to offer any real support, or be noble. They live in lies. Their identities are lies.

Peacegirl wrote:

Before I even read this post I need to ask you honestly Magnus, are you a bigot? Please let me know if you have something against the Jews. We are all conditioned as children to hate some group. Do you hate my people?

Now we know without doubt, the real drive of her insanity.

Indeed.

If we read the lengths to which Abraham went to survive.....no shame.
Willing to slaughter his one begotten son; willing to give his wife to the pharaoh, so as to appropriate a genetic mask, for her offspring - matrilineal identity - in order to gain entry to the seat of power.
Willing to self-mutilate as a sign of their commitment - covenant with the nihilistic dis-ease.....which was rejected by all but they chose; twisting the willful choice into fate..... They did not choose; they were chosen - they do not do what they do; it is their faith...their fate,....a burden.

Kvasir wrote:

Peacegirl wrote:

Before I even read this post I need to ask you honestly Magnus, are you a bigot? Please let me know if you have something against the Jews. We are all conditioned as children to hate some group. Do you hate my people?

Now we know without doubt, the real drive of her insanity.

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This whole page has exposed the kosher underbelly of this fucked up forum, and explains why they all suffer their own messianic variants of delusions of grander, self-importance (chosenness) and ideological madness of correcting nature or humanity and competition for being the special chosen genius or prophet to have found the one divine and ultimate truth; the one answer to salvation from the suffering of the world. They all want to be the self-proclaimed Elijah or Isaiah, worshiping scientific rationalism and using its atheistic principles to prove their god. They must resort to any means, no matter how blasphemous, retarded or hypocritical it makes them appear, its all for the right cause, a divine ordained cause, to carry out their holy mission. They are justified in any action, any way of thinking, any idea, as long as man and nature is "cleansed" of its evil.

It didn't take much and never does. A mere mention or innocent question, of their tribe in any context, brings out the truth of it by their crazed automatic defensive reactions. A forum part of the empire of lies.

Peacegirl wrote:

This isn't about brainwashing. This is about being cleansed of brainwashing. These hatreds run deep.

Ecmandu wrote:

I’m an ashkenazi Jew as well.
I don’t give a fuck about your hatred.
The world is at my feet. Not by my choice. But by yours.

Someday you’ll understand.

Patterns....

ILP is a microcosm of a 'western' macrocosm......Americanism on display.

When empires collapse....their town squares are inundated by prophets of doom offering salvation to the righteous.
Usually the same kind of psychotic finds its way to the soap-boxes....offering their superstitious explanations as to why the empire collapsed....ironically, doubling-down on its foundational lies.

Linguistic nonsense pretending to be metaphysical truth....one offering "peace" - a correction to nature's conflicts - and the other, immersed in the madness of this type, offering a "solution to nature's injustices"...both offering spiritual innocence.

peacegirl wrote:

We are all conditioned as children to hate some group.

I wonder who she was conditioned to hate?

Nature....the world as it is - all those who speak on its behalf, i.e., pagans, Indo-Euroepan paternalistic spirituality etc.
Denying free-will implies a submission to 'Will' - cosmic absolute, totalitarian, order. The one-god by any other name
God, for them, has many names.....and only a few know them all.

Biblical narrative: man was "given" free-will but not permitted to exercise it through choice.
Adam & Eve chose to chalenge god's will, though they were never 'free' to do so.
The linguistic contradictions are supposed to mystify, reminding us of how incomprehensible god, or absolute cosmic order, truly is.
Absolute order, as I've noted, is another way of saying one-god - secularization of Abrahamism. The anthropomorphic idolatry is negated, as a remnant of paganism.
The one-god is pure idea/ideal.
The idea must use words/symbols to detach itself form an 'evil' fallen state of nature. This is how it purifies itself, returning to the divine state of pure mind, using words/symbols to express itself.
Their god cannot be represented....it is blasphemous because it reduces their god from the purified intangible to the impure tangible; their god is pure abstraction.

You can always identify them from this alone. They use words/symbols disconnected from anything perceptible, anything experienced.

i wanna start posting here again, soon, please dont scare me too much

Things must be difficult, out there, if you are willing to return here.

I know what I want to do, finding the right pacing is the only problem. For this we look towards feedback.

Your ILP visit was cut shorter than I had anticipated Satyr. That forum is a shadow of itself, the barn animals are skulking around emaciated and diseased, filthy, and its moderators are taking more notice of it and being present more, acting as if they gave a shit.

Dan being lobotomized on antidepressants and meds, was probably too absent-minded to care about banning you.

He's one of those lobotomized ones...
Did you read his post where he said you can have without denying it to another?
Self-deceit to preserve his innocence....his goodness.
He lives in koo-koo land...and so he is a moderator of an insane asylum.


The double-standard was exposed. Ideological prejudice.
They know it.
Marj validated how they pretend not to see when those being attacked are considered their enemy, and the attackers are on their side.
Then you can insult, threaten, troll, harass....you can do anything.
But when someone out-does your feeble methods of silencing what is against your values, then it must be taken out.
They cannot compete...not even on the trash-talking playfield.

I ain't stopping until they permaban me.
I'll tone it down...see how far they let me go before they are triggered and can no longer take it.

It's like entering a shithole full of rats and vermin, and fighting the vermin on their level in their slop-turf....and outperforming their vermin ways.
They cannot take it.

As long as the moderators identified the participants as being fellow-vermin, fellow rats and coach roaches and bugmen...all's well in shithole hell.


When someone outside the nihilistic paradigm outperforms the indoctrinated into the nihilistic ethics of un-ethics exposes their duplicity of their core convictions, then the rules become strict and unyielding.

How long has the F-Jesus and Duh been there doing fuck-all about anything being said there?
Months?
Years?

It took less than 24 hrs of me, to make them active.
Hypocrites and cowards....collecting the world's hypocrites and cowards into their cabal of nonsense.

Know why they tolerated me for a full month last December and the December before that?
Because the cunt Karen hadn't drawn so much attention to me on PN where all these maggots are migrating.
These fucks are moderators in a forum they don't participate in, but do so in another forum.....
f-Jesus even visited KTS when Karen got on his holier than thou nerves.
Wanted to see how satanic the goat-man was.

See f-Jesus tolerating the Polacks absurd confusions...using insults galore.
No care. No warning.
If I were to respond in kind...banishment would follow.
If you are insane or below 90 IQ, you are one of them.

See the autistic Polack assume that I am speaking of a propose to nature.
He doesn't even understand natural selection and how certain behaviours are propagated and others filtered out of the gene pool.
This is how idiotic this moron is.

He thinks I've replaced 'god' with 'nature' unable to understand what 'facilitates' means, I guess.

I could simplify for the simpleton. Spell it out for him, as I would a child in elementary class. That behaviour that makes reproduction more probable,....offers an advantage, increases possibilities, probability...

Speaking to these retards demands the use of such simplified linguistics, pages of explainaitons...so that they can then piss and shit all over it....retuning to what they prefer....casual nonsensical banter....full of insults and spicy lingo.

The idiotic Polack is unable to comprehend.....so he insults based on his incomprehension.
Is he issued a warning....temporarily banned?
No....
He's one of them....a moron.
Like Duh and f-Jesus.
He's harmless to their core beliefs...their victim identity will not be exposed by that polish moron.