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Good job by this crew. Very revealing.
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Part 2.


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A re-conceptualization of the caste system.


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Interesting take on what we've been talking about on KT.

Mind/Body/Nervous System.

Only he flips the male/female.
For me female = body
Male = mind.
Nervous system translates, coverts the processes of (inter)acting physically to symbols, and then back against as moral codes, forcing the body to comply.


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There are conspiracies happening on a daily basis, in all walks of life.
What conspiracy theorists like to do is make everything that happens fit into one cohesive agency. One elite which works uniformly together and organises for whatever happens to happen. Whatever happens, there was a deliberate plan behind it.

Whatever you do, you are just a pawn, except for the conspiracy theorists, he is outside the game.

I think that the election results were not predictable. So what you do is make plans for either outcome and try to use whatever happens to go forward with your own plans.

What I did notice was that this "Holt-z" guy was creeping into my youtube suggestions and I have no idea why. He was also linked to by the creator of the above video.

Holt.z - Why not just call him Peter Krieg like the bad guy in the movie Die Hard.
Here's a screenshot from the linked video (linked in the comments by the creator).

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This is the first of a series of videos due to be released by the A Holtz and Antony Holtz channels that are intended to inform you of the truth. Not historic truth, but present day truth. How you can understand it, and more importantly what you as an individual can actually do about it. My sincere thanks goes out to my very good and loyal friends at Bruderschaft for all their support and of course my great friend Lemon Molotov, who made this video for me. A very gifted young man whom I am insanely proud of.

Chewy, chewy, chewy,...

The way I see the Israeli government, if they need you, they are going to be nice to you and they will tell the whole world what a great guy you are and how good of a friend you are to them - Their way of "meme-ing" it into reality. -> Trying to put expectation pressure on.
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I think the same about the election. Let's say these JohnnyGat and A.Holtz channels are completely anti-Yid so from that perspective things can look a bit grim, but at this time I don't think there couldn't have been a better candidate

About conspiracy, I think most people would like to break the law without getting caught so that explains why they are so popular
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I think the same about the election. Let's say these JohnnyGat and A.Holtz channels are completely anti-Yid so from that perspective things can look a bit grim, but at this time I don't think there couldn't have been a better candidate

About conspiracy, I think most people would like to break the law without getting caught so that explains why they are so popular

I am trying to keep a cool head about Trump but at the same time I think it's worthwhile to normalise fashy ideas, and to make it all feel upbeat.

We have seen that it's possible to steer a people into the abyss with ideas of miscegenation and so forth by a relatively small group. Maybe it's also possible to steer them away from it.

As for Holtz, he reminds me of Jakob.

You like Hitler? - Well, here is what Hitler and National Socialism is really about. It's about unity of all races and blablabla.

You like Nietzsche? You think Nietzsche is cool? - Well, here is what Nietzsche is really about. It's about everything has value and values itself and HipHop and bling-bling is awesome.
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Impulso Oscuro wrote:
A re-conceptualization of the caste system.


These can be organized as different sorts of nationalism. There is religious nationalism, civic (or 'economic') nationalism and ethnic nationalism.

Instincts are reactionary and bodily. Religion is masculine organization of instincts (re)acting to the world. Control the religion, the beliefs, you control the direction - the becoming. The control is purely by the management of desires in the typical neurological way: the executive brain functions overriding an impulse.

The push of Trump is for civic nationalism, where one identifies themselves with citizenship, statism, and law. Monetary institutions that are backed by courts are fundamentally a state institution. A recent interview with the author of Monster from Jekyll Island on Freedomain Radio revealed the plan: when civic nationalists take on the immense inflation brought about by crazed entitlement spending, because they're withdrawing their currency as the world standard, they will be given a proposal for an international currency to fix the problem. It will essentially be the same problem, though, that they were trying to fix.. proposed as the solution. If the country is unwilling or unable to take on the austerity of withdrawing their currency, they will have a vulnerable economy and thus military - a lot because of the lack of wealth production in the USA.

The retreating of America's currency will mean surrounding countries will eye America for an opportunity to profit. With the cooperation between China, EU and other communist states (that seek out a healthy host like a virus) they may in combination agree to attack the USA. One of the bloodiest world wars from a retreat of USA into isolationist civic nationalism may happen.

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Interesting take on what we've been talking about on KT.

Mind/Body/Nervous System.

Only he flips the male/female.
For me female = body
Male = mind.
Nervous system translates, coverts the processes of (inter)acting physically to symbols, and then back against as moral codes, forcing the body to comply.  


The female is reactionary and the male is totalitarian. America was supposed to be a female land of great fruits for men individually to exploit. All totalitarian states have been supremely masculine: Nazi Germany, North Korea, and even fantasy books like Imperium of Man (WH40k). One shouldn't confuse the state for being feminine itself just because it puts females first: that is a distinctly masculine characteristic, to protect the harem (by oppressing the males).

A strong masculine figure may seem to be permissive more than a feminine motherly one, especially with children, but it is not because of a lack of care. It is due to the increased confidence and ability of the male figure to protect against more physical threats than the feminine one. That, combined with less investment into the children because of the historically minimal biological costs on the male.
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What about turn the other cheek? What about taking the high ground?
- I guess, that's one approach. I am not well studied in that.
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In cultures past, soldiers or leaders who had faced true life and death battle and upheld principles of honor were commemorated at such events and they were demonstrated on a huge national scale.

But in a culture of mindless entertainment and flippancy, we have medals of "greatness" being awarded to a cast of comedy talking heads, marketing corporate business tycoons and pop stars.

The modern mind always needs an over stimulus of levity. Greatness is something that moderns don't take seriously you see; it has to be dumbed down for everyone and taken in stride like kicking a rock while you stroll down the street. Being awesome aint no big deal for them.

The pompous ill mannered nigger host/president, blatantly mocks them with his childish jokes and antics, but they are too oversocialized and effete to take offense, not to mention many of them incurred it, inadvertently, to a certain extent given their careers. Such a mad suffocating room with feel good platitudes, and blind comfort, and pretentious sentimentalism.
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About the simulation-cuck-hypothesis:
I think Sam is basically right - It's about nihilism. This time it's not the promise of a heavenly afterlife but the black-pilling via proposing that existence is a meaningless simulation game.
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Cynicism is the consequence.
We see it on the rise.
Everything's a joke, to be ridiculed, because each has his own reality to live in, and he can humour alternate realities.
It's a way of mind-numbing those who would pose a threat to the "powers that be" - American individualism product.
Everyone living i their own private universe, purchased and maintained by servicing he mechanisms that provide the service and protect the mind from reality proper.
Unable to differentiate between simulation, artificiality, and reality, the mind laughs at everything including its own constructs.
Everything is a game and words, the code, being the toys within the game.

Already we see how detached words have become from any references outside the brain - the very existence of an "outside" questioned.

It's Matrix stuff...only you don't need pods or these elaborate machines and robots.

People go to work, servicing the machinery, and every evening and on the weekends they exist in their personal reality - it's all subjective, see.
Why would you want to exit your private world when doing so would expose you to a harsh reality, including how you compare with others, and why.

I remember growing up in the seventies how my father would gather with other en and discuss politics....now you find "men", older than what my father was, discussing artificiality, pop-culture, video-games....nobody gives a shit.
MRA is a symptom....detaching males form the system - offering them technologies to direct their energies.
Everything becomes hyper-real - Baudrillard stuff.

You can see it in the usage and application of language.
Nothing has to make sense, it must only feel good.
Nothing must refer to anything outside human brains and human systems, all must be self-referential.
Look at the chimp and she tries to make it all subjective, and a result of social engineering.
This taps into a very vile part of human psychology.
I remember the Cypher choice, from the movie.
Knowing ti's all fake does not dissuade the Modern from choosing to exist in his own delusion.
Think of the alternative...in the context of natural selection, and after generations of sheltering, what his genes are screaming out......"protect us".

"Selfish gene" right?

When the human brain went over its utility as survival tool, or as organ dealing with challenges, it was faced, as Schopenhauer said, with ennui.
The ancient Greeks considered art a dangerous thing, for the young.
Now, imagine art with the benefit of technologies, also a product of the brain.
Brain relieving itself of excess as creativity....same as sexual stress and accumulated libidinal energies.
Thing of ennui as the brain's sexual frustration - mental horniness.
With these libidinal energies easily accumulated in a world of superfluity, the sexual tension would be continuous.

Postman's book "Entertaining ourselves to Death" could be titled - "masturbating ourselves to extinction".

Look at the people around you.
People used to have families in their early twenties, now they reach forty and their still fuckin' around, trying to figure out what to do with their time, getting high to deal with all the boredom, the absence of stress.

Domestication is perpetual adolescence.




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Work as being soul-crushing which leads to escapism -> Looking for entertainment and roleplaying ones own life - LARPing as a way of life.

Modernity is not providing a fulfilling life, a lot of the time.


I know of a company which produces heavy machinery and they are quite successful. The jobs have not moved to a low-wage country because the production of said machines has never been dumbed down into a form of automation but it requires a skilled workforce to assemble them.
One could think of said company as an accumulation of knowhow but it's not on paper, it's bound to the skilled workforce too.

Why would somebody automate himself out of the picture?
- Maybe because he has grown tired of what he does, he wants it to be automated and out of his hands.
But how much of this is due to the actual sort of work and how much is due to a society where the morality dictates that social value corresponds with less physical work, less physical productions, eventually less work in general.

Health does not try to escape all toils at any costs.
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Coincidence


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I haven't seen this
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Stefan Molyneux is wrong and his guest is right....mathematics IS idealism because numbers are ideas, they do not exist outside the brain.
But I did enjoy listening to how he dominates his guest.
If I were there I would have torn him a new a-hole, but meh.

I forgive him because he is, sometimes right about things, and I do appreciate the mount to time and research that go into his vids.

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Molyneux is one of those unfortunate modern thinkers. An 'Alt-righter' but, he also masquerades as a neopagan. I agree, he has his good points and he is articulate, but i dont think he takes himself seriously. He's too much of a wise cracker and a clown and it annoys the shit out of me. Alex Jones might be a bit off in the head and he's certainly no philosopher, but he speaks purposefully, and he does take himself very seriously and i like that about him.

I unsubscribed to Molyneux's channel after a comment i made in one particular video of him ranting inanities about Thanksgiving. It was uninteresting and seemed to me another chance for him to self-indulge in his smart ass comedic antics. I suggested in the comment that he is becoming bored and descending into an online entertainment personality, to which he made some lame snarky comment attempting to patronize me asking what "facts" i had of it. He is dependent on statistics and data...unable to think in his own logical observations and knowledge. The amount of up votes his "comeback" got was crazy. So many You Tubers and online groupies sucking his dick. It's pathetic.

He is definitely no philosopher, even though he thinks of himself as one. He's too modern. He is a journalist and a newscaster and an academic. He is worth watching...sometimes. But for me personally, he annoys the hell out of me.
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Snowden is a refreshing lucid thinker in a time of madness. One of the rare few i could see myself having a stimulating casual conversation with.
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I've experienced the same thing Kvasir, I tried to reason quite humbly and politely yet assertively with my convictions that contradicted 'theirs' on many less or more dumb and bizarre Youtube and FB pages and have always met with fucking snarky up-their-ass cunts riding on the dicks of their followers and fanboys that would give me a reply that would call me a child or a frustrated maniac or some other dismissing shit that was then up-voted. The amount of times I have been banned off of FB pages... on the basis of me being rude or evil or this or that....
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I've experienced the same thing Kvasir, I tried to reason quite humbly and politely yet assertively with my convictions that contradicted 'theirs' on many less or more dumb and bizarre Youtube and FB pages and have always met with fucking snarky up-their-ass cunts riding on the dicks of their followers and fanboys that would give me a reply that would call me a child or a frustrated maniac or some other dismissing shit that was then up-voted. The amount of times I have been banned off of FB pages... on the basis of me being rude or evil or this or that....

And that is why i am not a forum poster at other sites. I just have zero interest in engaging with stupidity or delusional arrogance unless it becomes so insistent that i force myself to act, like with that crazy retard camus666.

Stupidity may be inferior, but it can be ruthless, like army ants. Millennial Protestors are a case in point.

I dont mind making comments here or there online, Youtube, whatever, but not to any excessive degree. The problem with being an online guru is that you become surrounded by this stupidity that then eventually becomes like a goofy dumb sidekick to you, eager to please, and you get comfortable using it to enhance your reputation and even intellect. Once you have grinned and bared it for a long enough time, and you have enough word of mouth vouches from enough gullible minds, you have solidified a podium where you can be as arrogant and patronizing as you want.
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Varg vs TFM, ladies and gentlemen.





Ok, so Varg claims alpha males are those who reproduce. A sensible claim, but I wonder if he would accept a nigger with 10 children subsidized by welfare as more alpha than himself. If not, then he would be forced to accept that in modern times even the undeserving can reproduce. But I would also grant Varg that although some who are undeserving may reproduce (which would go counter to his point), I wouldn't say there  are many of deserving ones who DON'T reproduce, because the deserving usually find a way, which supports his point and MGTOW who are childless are removing themselves from the gene pool, probably for the best.

TFM attacks Varg and calls him a beta male who submits to the gynocentric system. However, Varg's MGTOW video is the first and only video he saw of Varg so he didn't even know his name and who he's attacking. I think he changed his mind about his accusations when some people in the comments section told him a bit more about Varg. TFM brings up his usual points - the dangers of marriage (divorce rape), having more important goals in life than genetic reproduction, pointing out how diluted genes become after just a few generations, and the idea that a better way of reproducing if one wants to preserve their genes is cloning. Also that having children necessitates getting involved with a woman and thus risking your freedom.

The way I see it, being alpha has several aspects to it - genetic and memetic propagation and a mindset of self-control. MGTOW focuses solely on memetic propagation and/or pleasures at the expense of genetic propagation and refuse to make any compromises involving the reduction of their self-control (such as surrendering their freedom to the state through marriage). Traditionalists focus more on a balance of genetic and memetic propagation and are willing to make some compromises to achieve this.

Both sides embody certain aspects of alpha maleness and neglect others, but I'd say traditionalists generally win out over MGTOW because most MGTOW don't use self-control for memetic propagation to compensate for lack of genetic propagation (can't blame them, most people generally don't), instead they focus on pleasures. Many of these are men who could not genetically propagate even if they wanted to, so their separation from the system isn't so much a choice as it is a lifestyle they adopt involuntarily but maybe have grown to accept since it is inevitable for them, and it does have some benefits. They are socially rejective not because society's standards are beneath them, but because they are ABOVE them.
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Betas, and even omegas reproduce only within manmade Nihilistic systems where feminine traits and males that submit to them, are idealized.
When the State, has replaced God, as the monopoly on alpha, all must become representations of this alpha, or betas, imitating and serving it.
This is necessary because the State, as was God, is a abstraction of masculinity, an idealization of it, in accordance with Nihilistic ideals.
It cannot fertilize females,a s a biological alpha could.
Therefore the abstraction requires proxies, that only serve as the corporeal part of the ideal - a reduction, since ion nihilism the body, the physical, is reduced to an avatar.
This links us to liberals demanding to be treated as females trapped in a male's body, or vice versa.
They, essentially despise the real, the physical....and want all to become idea(l), making everything malleable to mind - or giving magical power to symbols, words.

What they really despise is past, or nature, as the sum of all past nurturing - the immutable determining PAST.
What they feel freedom to be is detachment, rejection, forgetting this past.

So how do beta's become more prolific than alphas?
One, they submit easily and readily, willingly and joyfully accepting the role of proxy alpha.
They are God's or the state's cock, and they must please the female. Keep her happy.
Two they accept the biological method common among all beta males: subversive copulation, in exchange for being the female's man-slave.
Three, females are indoctrinated into the alpha male's dominion, meaning they easily surrender to the prevailing power. This makes them fashionable, trend seeking and easily adaptable.
But in Nihilistic systems this leaves them with a problem.
They are genetically inclined to be attracted to alpha males, but none are permitted, so all she has are copies, imitators/pretenders, or omega, comfortable, helpful, carpets to step on. She is trained, socially, to desire, pragmatically, rationally, the beta, and their genetic attractions contradict this.

This is the root of what moderns call the FEMININE MYSTIQUE.
it's based on females being indoctrinated into nihilistic memes, then conflicting with their genetic predispositions.
They are confused, their genetics conflicting with their memetics, and the men who try to understand them, to get laid, are perplexed....they call it feminine complexity.
women are complicated.
BUUUUUUULLLLSHIT!!!
They are simpler than simple, if they are average....but intelligence is always complex.
the average females is inferior to the average male, and both are simpletons, to be understood as such.
What is confusing is them trying to adjust their memetic indoctrination to their genetic inclinations.
They say one thing, do another, and believe a third...so you begin by first taking the ACTION as your starting point. disregard their words, what they say they believe in...watch what they do.
What choices they make, how they behave....stop listening to morons talking.
Words are, for them, ink in the water. The spineless use it often.
Furthermore, they have no clue what and who they are. The KNOW THYSELF is crucial here.
This makes them ignorant of their own contradictions.
They, actually, believe what they say, even when they contradict what they say with deeds, and are unable to justify or define or explain what they say....they just say it because it feels good, they were indoctrinated, trained to say it, they regurgitate it, or in the best case scenario they intentionally try to hide who and what they are, with words as distractions, covering masks, accessories to match their new outfit and job.


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