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Do you reckon Pinker doesn't understand that free speech is a right-wing issue because it is from that sphere of politics and ideologies that any systems and structures emerge that seek to undermine that monopoly of power of leftist politics and nihilism whereas all the leftists produce outside of the norm are mostly vulgar and perverted piles of bull crap or slight modifications to what already is? That said obviously ignoring his explanation that relates to the conditioned triggers such as Hitler, right-wing used to dismiss that, as relevant as it might be, does not seem to pin it down precisely enough for me because of what I have said earlier and the nature of Jordans Petersons ideas.
btw I like him a lot, he has the ability to simplify and constrain complex and multi-layered propositions in a logical, conclusive manner that builds all that is needed to progress to the next stage in a very disciplined and precise manner

The people in the comment section complain that its hard to understand but I disagree, it is the best example of what I just mentioned.

There is a pronounced trait of quasi-political correctness that influences these dissenting academic professors against leftism.

Nothing to do with alt-right though.

These particular professors are deeply invested into the academic institution and have cultivated a reputation which sways their modesty of thought. However, they are calculating enough to propound their positions without appearing too threatening to the establishment. Whether this be self-preservation or self-interest, is confined to their own motives. One thing is clear, they are subtle enough to understand how to express their ideas against leftism, while still retaining their status as respected educators.

Pinker is far more invested in his scientific pursuits in academia and because of that he is accepted more as an educator and not vilified outright as a dissident, while Peterson has more of an alpha tendency to challenge the status quo and as a result he comes under hotter fire but, so far, has garnered no more than small protests against his lectures. Peterson’s philosophical spirit seems genuine to me and therefore, I must believe that he acts from a survival instinct to maintain his position to discourse and lecture his insights which I find to be nicely introspective.

It is tricky sometimes to discern how far their true principles or beliefs lie, in terms of racial superiority and hierarchies. Their intellectual integrity suggests a traditional belief system, but their indirect conformity they abide by with the media and publicity, in relation to politically correct subjects, says they also value their social and academic standing that demands placation of simple-minded audiences.

It comes down to their long-term changing motives. Whether or not they intend to make a direct impact to risk the lifetime of their socially approved achievements and accolades for a legacy of wisdom, or whether they will nurture a pretentiously cooperative parasitical strategy of attrition to pervade their ideas as long as possible; to make their concessions and submissions to achieve awareness with a select few. Which is more effective, is up to them to determine.

Obligation to dumb down language for the worst educated and least literate:

A very fascinating exploration of the connection of geology with mythology.
The scholar, is a geologists, connecting his science to myth, calling it geomyhtology.
Unfortunately it's in Greek.
I should translate it, because it's very insightful and compelling.

To give you a taste...he connects the Titans and the Giants, part of the geology associated with the Ice Age; with the rise of the oceans, due to the melting of the ice, due to warming, and the creation of the islands with certain myths.
For example the birth of Apollo on the island of Delos, occurs when the area detaches, due to the rise of the sea.

Another things he says is that the myth of Hydra, begins in the Peloponnese, in an area called Laerna... ergo Laernean Hydra.
Hydra, from hydor [υδορ], which is geek for water.
The seven heads corresponding to the seven subterranean tributaries.
If you block one, it splits into two. Place a stone in front of one tributary and its splits into two.
Therefore the myth about cutting off the heads of the hydra.

He also explains why civilization emerged first in the Aegean and why it is so dominant.
It's climactic.
Why democracy is reflected in the Dodecatheon, which were originally six main gods.
When Zeus wanted to decide what to do with Hercules he gathered the gods to decide - the roots of Democracy are found in the myth itself, that preceded the emergence of the political system.

The defeat of the Titans by Zeus is about the gradual stabilization of the geology and climate due to the end of the Ice Age, and the stabilization of the weather.
Imagine how the people, of that time, experienced the rise of the sea levels, up to 5 cm a year, 50 cm. in ten years, times 4, which would be an average lifespan.
People living in the areas being threatened with the rising sea, must have believed some titanic forces were out to get them.
with the stabilization of the weather he must have thought some more kinder forces were fighting on his side...the Olympian Gods that defeated the Titans....which would correspond to the end of the Ice Age and its extreme geological and climatic effects.

There's more.
All in all it is very interesting.
He connects Hellenic mythology to geology and climate conditions, over a period of geological time.

Satyr wrote:

A very fascinating exploration of the connection of geology with mythology.
The scholar, is a geologists, connecting his science to myth, calling it geomyhtology.
Unfortunately it's in Greek.
I should translate it, because it's very insightful and compelling.

Please do. It sounds great.

The first time I've heard a live interview with this "infamous" comic book rouge Matt Drudge. Despite Alex Jones' disruptive behavior for interrupting he was able to behave himself and it was a good interview.

Drudge has some good observational sense for being a modern conservative, and was smart enough to keep most of his political affiliations out of the interview, which was nice.

His insight into Social media as a proprietary intellectual corporation, taking ownership and appropriation of language was good.

Kvasir wrote:

Satyr wrote:

A very fascinating exploration of the connection of geology with mythology.
The scholar, is a geologists, connecting his science to myth, calling it geomyhtology.
Unfortunately it's in Greek.
I should translate it, because it's very insightful and compelling.

Please do. It sounds great.

Don't know if it is worth that much effort when I can give you what I gathered from it as the condensed knowledge.

He connects ancient mythology, particularly Indo-European traditions, with geological and climactic conditions.
The myth of Heracles and the Leaned Hydra, I mentioned before is one example.
He connects the emergence of the Olympian gods with the settling phase in climactic and geological changes.
Titans and Giants with the period of severe weather and geological alterations.
Olympians were worshipped the victors against the Titans when the geological and climactic conditioned that threatened the people in those areas stabilized.

He connects the birth of certain mythological entities, islands being named after them, with the meting of polar ice, and the rise of sea levels, attributed to river gods.
He says that the privilege place of Hellenism, or of cultured birthed around the Mediterranean basin, were due to the privileged geographical configuration, creating a relatively stable climactic and geological area, allowing men to develop higher civilizations.
He claims that the Black sea was once a salt-less lake, fed into by the meting ice of the receding Ice age, causing an overflow.
The myths of a deluge are found in this overflowing.
Eventually the sea levels rose and the black sea was flooded with sea water, destroying the co system, and the sea life.
The passage of the Dardanelles was created then.

He claims the Minoans traveled all the way to North America, and up to the Arctic circle, and that Heracles was a real Mycenaean.

My view is that the Mediterranean basin looks a lot like the vaginal canal with its end being where the fertilization of Hellenism was birthed.

Exiting the canal to conquer the entire western world.
Gibraltar being the lip of the vaginal canal, spilling into the Atlantic - named after Atlas holding up the world.
It was the geographical configurations, resulting in geological and climactic conditions, that made the Hellenism so dominant.
The northern European lands were not habitable, due to the permafrost, util much later.

He also claims that the ocean streams were already known to the ancients, and described methodologically.
He also claims that the Greek language is much older than what current historians think, because this knowledge was transmitted orally, and it goes back to the Ice Age.
Much of history transmitted in oral form as stories, tales, mythological allegories.

The artistic nature of language is retained.
The mind shares metaphors, approximations, presentations...symbols.

AutSider wrote:

Varg vs TFM, ladies and gentlemen.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.... Never come home Varg, you're not welcome here!

All myths are metaphors transferring natural experiences, events, into a form man can relate to.
Transference, translation, of the phenomenon to a noetic representation.
Transference, translation, of the real into an ideal.
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It fits inot my own understanding of Indo-European traditions as reflecting nature, and how from this a memetic psychological dis-ease, can emerge and spread.

This masculine - towards order, and feminine towards chaos, is part of my won understanding.
Women laugh at male order, when ti claims an absolute to be imposed as a universal rule.
They need not have any lucid comprehension of why, they simply react intuitively, dismissing it as boyish hyperbole, competing for their affections, trying to impress them.

Females are genetic and memetic filtering agencies.
They adopt an ideal and serve it by balancing, selecting, judging, all would be representatives of it.
Confusion in them is due to this conflict between their natural intuitive dispositions (genes), and their adoption of, often, anti-natural ideologies (meme).
This internal conflict expresses itself as indecision, self-contradiction - deeds conflicting with stated beliefs.
Nihilism is full of examples of such contradictions necessitating hypocrisy and leis to justify them.
This is why Nihilism is part of the feminization of mankind.

Left to her natural role a female is the judge and jury.
She "buys", harvests, what nature produces, what males sell - themselves as the idea(l).
This makes her pragmatic, always seeing through pretenses and hyperbole.
Depending on the female's quality her filtering sieve's netting is larger or smaller, more refined, more discriminating.
She's nature's agency, and chaos is part of nature.

Order, in its absolute definition, is a male construct.
The Abrahamic God is an entirely male fabrication, demanding the emasculation and surrender of all to its exaggerated idea(l).

Without the humbling presence of chaos (randomness), males become arrogant, convincing themselves, so as to convince females, that they are the Creators or representations of absolute order.
Males construct idea(l), and females judge these idea(l)s.

Warrior spirit of nobility.

"Be strong."
Not only for the sake of what you value, but so that your enemies don't resent their defeat. Going all out is a way of giving honor to your enemy. No patronizing. Taking their life, and death, seriously.

Modernity is involving women in the politics of honor, a man's expression of love for humanity. It is patronizing toward the love of men (who die and go to war for the chance to reproduce, or for a woman).

Slaughtz wrote:

We cannot accept both kinds of love from women at the same time. We cannot accept the love that comes from men competing in the battlefield together, to leave only the most fit to survive this universe. and simultaneously accept the putting of nonviolence and safety for all people above the violence of this battling. It is this masculine institution of war, where women are raped instead of murdered, that expresses the highest love for the human species.

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Slaughtz wrote:

"Be strong."
Not only for the sake of what you value, but so that your enemies don't resent their defeat. Going all out is a way of giving honor to your enemy. No patronizing. Taking their life, and death, seriously.

That's something Ive noticed, there is no "finishing move" moments in our interactions in modernity, everyone who is "defeated" can just reset the very next day and pretend they never lost to you like the conniving cowards they are. This is why duels and physical conflict are necessary, because scars and injuries are more humbling than just a broken ego.

Although according to Atzmon the "Jerusalemites" are not even willing to engage in mental/memetic combat at all.

We mustn't forget of Sparta.
Athens = extroverted spirit
Sparta = introverted spirit.

Jerusalem is outside the pagan, Indo-European paradigm.
It is a pole in the nihilistic paradigm, with its own extroversion and introversion.
We cannot discern the inversion, the point of contradiction after centuries of Abrahamic and Marxist indoctrination.
Jerusalem and Athens as representation of the extroverted part of their paradigms are incompatible world-views.
They cannot be synthesized.
Their world-views are completely alien to each other.
One is rooted in the phenomena world and the other's inversion is strictly noetic.
That Athens brought the nous to a height should not confuse us to the point where we mistake it for another version of Jerusalem, if we are to use that metaphor.

Atzmon is not a bridge, like Iakob presumes to be, of synthesizing Athens and Jerusalem, leaving Sparta outside, because Jerusalem and Athens represent, for their respective memes, the noetic, extroverted part.
He is "anti-identitarian, because his own is what he wants to escape - his slave tradition. He wants to disappear in a world with no past, to remake himself.
Watch how excited he gets when he is describing "mixing", as though being Polish and being Irish is as different as being a Jew and a gentile, or a Negro or Asian.
He connects identity with actions, but conveniently forgets that past manifests in presence - action/behavior IS the past made present.
A homosexual does not have to identify with being a homosexual because his actions/behavior expose him, and his homosexuality is not a product of the immediate, but rooted in his past/nature - genetics.
Memes are extensions of genes...and can be adopted, imitated, learned the genetic lineage that birthed the meme. This is where the Modern places himself.
Genetics can be buried by learning, performing and copying memetics.
He is a disillusioned, awakening Semite, abandoning his Jewishness, adopting the social variance of Zionism: cosmopolitan immersion, into a globalized uniformity.
He wants to become Athenian, in its golden age.....seafaring, open to the world, a world market, democratic, forgetting what Athenians themselves said of democracy and of their own citizenry.
The slave psychosis to be saved from itself, by abandoning tribal, and natural identifiers, to create a universal, ideological humanity.
He's a Jew who, like the Romans, is infected by the Hellenic spirit.
The same way Christianity was created when contact with Hellenism threatened traditional, orthodox Jewry.
This revision of Jewishness abandons tribal, Semite identity, along with all natural identifiers, in what is called post-modernism, and I simply call Modernity, and becomes the latest, last manifestation of secular Nihilism.

He dreams of a world where becoming Hellenic is a matter of education, paideia - an all-inclusive identity everyone can belong to with proper training.
He wants to become a adopted Ionian Greek, by rejecting the Doric spirit of severity that defeated Athens.
It was the sea, Athenian cosmopolitanism that saved it.  
These Jews adopt Athenian cosmopolitanism, to immerse themselves, and forget who and what they are - the meme burying their genetic past.

They want to abandon their homeland and float out into the forgetful oceans of cosmos.

Ad Gilad's monologue (he knows how to keep the talking initiative) -

As the 'wrong' identity groups are gaining in momentum, suddenly we are against identity-politics.
Identity-politics was fine for attacking a dominant identity in their respective lands, the European identity(ies).
Now identity politics is bad because it is used as a way to oppose the melting pot.

Anfang wrote:

Ad Gilad's monologue (he knows how to keep the talking initiative) -

As the 'wrong' identity groups are gaining in momentum, suddenly we are against identity-politics.
Identity-politics was fine for attacking a dominant identity in their respective lands, the European identity(ies).
Now identity politics is bad because it is used as a way to oppose the melting pot.

Exactly.
You see this selective application of their own principles in everything they do and say.
They must lie.

Take the cunt cAnus as a specimen of this behavior.
She challenges all definitions of words, except the ones that suit her.
Her deconstruction of language stops when her own principles lead to complete annihilation.
she's never followed through with her own 'logic". She arbitrarily applies it to reject what hurts and threatens her, but then goes no further.
She has issues with words like male/female, superior/inferior, morality, but none with here & now, which are completely abstract concepts...or contraptions as she calls them.
Meaningless outside the human brain.
Where male/female actually refer to an observable phenomenon, and I've provided a definition of superior/inferior that does not depend on my personal tastes, her 'here' and 'now' is a given, in her mind.
They are generalization referring to a space/time dependent on the subjective speaker, and how his metabolism determines the parameters of what these concepts mean.
The measure of time, and space, is a social construct...this is why we have daylight savings time, and we can divide the day in pieces that are socially and economically useful.
But the cunt cannot  think that far out of her comfort zone. When her IQ seems inadequate she dismisses what is being said with her usual "scholastic didactic" contraption.
A dull example, but one we can study in real-time, instead of theorizing about degenerates and their nihilistic infection.

Also, for all this talk about philosophy and science in describing the Athenian mindset counter to Jerusalem, his emphasis seemed to be on talking it out, on coming to a conclusion through babbel-ism.

That's what science is about, talking and talking and agreeing on something through talking it out.
We've got to talk...
Gotta talk this out...
You have to talk about it...

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