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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 4:51 pm

There Will Be Blood wrote:
You realize that your doing the exact same thing as those you accuse? A generalizing face value judgement, except they act accordinly to it and you retract accordingly to it.

My generalizations are in accord with reason - that's the difference, bucko.
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That aint the whole story. I'm sure you personally know that.

what, the hell, is that suppose to mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 4:53 pm

Why are you guys talking about Lyssa?
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 4:55 pm

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Why are you guys talking about Lyssa?

There will be blood wrote: "On other forums it's always Satyr, but here far more become hell-bent against Lyssa. Somebody should explain."

I responded.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:01 pm

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My generalizations are in accord with reason - that's the difference, bucko.



Depends on to what end that reasoning is intended for. To certain ends certain resonation is required. The question is wether or not the perceived advancement is in actuality advantageous.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:06 pm

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what, the hell, is that suppose to mean?

You made it out the be a straight line kind of thing. That's never been the way I took it. Why have your opinions shifted so often?


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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:06 pm

All Lyssa does is copy+paste articles from other sources and thinkers. She is not an individual, but instead is a copier. A social dependent, which is not unexpected from the female specie.

She doesn't think for herself.

Could you imagine a woman, a female, that did???
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Imagine a female that could think for herself. Imagine a self sufficient woman.

An oxymoron. A contradiction. Because to be female, is to also become dependent on males. This is how females find their power in life. This is the "female WTP".

A man chooses his own power. A woman chooses a man to represent her. A woman does not choose the thing, the value, the virtue. A woman chooses the embodiment of the thing (man), the ideal, the passion.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:11 pm

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what, the hell, is that suppose to mean?

You made it out the be a straight line kind of thing. That's never been the way I took it. Why have your opinions shifted so often?

Because I'm only 23 - I'm still a student of life, learning, absorbing, maturing.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:14 pm

Could you guys imagine a woman who stands alone?!

Could you imagine a woman who is individual?!

That is who I would not call a mere woman.


She would be a WOWman!

No such thing exists as her. Except as a fantasy, an ideal of mine. A self sufficient, self responsible, a proud wowman.

No such thing, I lack such a powerful imagination to conceptualize such a creature.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:16 pm

She would be the Sophia of Philosophia.

The inspiration at the heart of all divine wisdom.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:17 pm

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Imagine a female that could think for herself.  Imagine a self sufficient woman.

An oxymoron.  A contradiction.  Because to be female, is to also become dependent on males.  This is how females find their power in life.  This is the "female WTP".

A man chooses his own power.  A woman chooses a man to represent her.  A woman does not choose the thing, the value, the virtue.  A woman chooses the embodiment of the thing (man), the ideal, the passion.

Lyssa engages in intellectual activities and holds her own. It's something that most guys today don't even do because their minds are too shallow. Sure, she does a lot of copying and pasting, and I would appreciate seeing more of her own writing, but she too is a student still. I think you should cut her some slack.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:17 pm

What about ruling Queens?

You sound like this guy:



If he has somekind of internet community it would definitely be of your liking. Look into it, and then tell me how it goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:21 pm

You guys can fight your little hearts out to impress Lyssa all you want. I won't stand in your way. She's nothing to me.

Good luck.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:24 pm

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Could you guys imagine a woman who stands alone?!

Could you imagine a woman who is individual?!

That is who I would not call a mere woman.


She would be a WOWman!

No such thing exists as her.  Except as a fantasy, an ideal of mine.  A self sufficient, self responsible, a proud wowman.

No such thing, I lack such a powerful imagination to conceptualize such a creature.

You would hate such a woman deeply. I hope I don't have to tell you why Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:25 pm

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You guys can fight your little hearts out to impress Lyssa all you want.  I won't stand in your way.  She's nothing to me.

Good luck.

Feigned indifference, I see it every time.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:25 pm

Did you even bother to watch it?? Do you agree or not?
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:25 pm

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You would hate such a woman deeply. I hope I don't have to tell you why Wink
Go on and tell me then.....bioooooootch!

You go girl
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:28 pm

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Did you even bother to watch it?? Do you agree or not?

It's Stardusky. I do recall Aeon mocking the shit out of the MRA/MGTOW movement in one of his threads, if I'm not mistaken.


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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:28 pm

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Did you even bother to watch it?? Do you agree or not?
I'm already familiar with Barbarossa, Stardusk, MGTOW, MRA, Karen Straugh, and Sandman, thanks though.

I listened to quite a few of their videos. Some resonates, some does not.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:30 pm

From my perspective, MGTOW is a redundant terminology. Men have already "been going our own way" naturally. A movement is not required to reflect or encourage this.

I believe that all males are born anti social and socially unwanted (compared to innate female value).
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:30 pm

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It's Stardusky. I do recall Aeon mocking the shit out of the MRA/MGTOW movement in one of his threads, if I'm not mistaken



I don't know, only seen that video. But he seemed like a male separatist of kinds.


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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:31 pm

MGTOW reflects an already biological gender truism.

Males are pushed out of society automatically, by adults and elders, while females and daughters are naturally included into a system of privilege.

I am neither for nor against this. It just is. I explore reality first, not wishing to change it, at least in the way or scope some ascribe to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:43 pm

I'm already familiar with Barbarossa, Stardusk, MGTOW, MRA, Karen Straugh, and Sandman, thanks though.

I listened to quite a few of their videos. Some resonates, some does not.


Alright, then philosophize for me. What differences? What in your and their psyche explains the conclusions made + what enviroment provoked it?
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:51 pm

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Alright, then philosophize for me. What differences? And what in your and their psyche explains the conclusions made + what enviroment provoked it?
Firstly, the MGTOW and MRA movement is mostly humanist with the premise of human equality in place. Outright I disagree with that. I believe in inequality, and support inequality. I don't want people to be equal. And I don't want men to be "equal" with women. That is #1. The MGTOW and MRA proponents would dislike and reject me from that point straight away.

Secondly I attribute nature and biology to these mass discrepancies of "gender equality". This is another premise not shared among the MGTOW. Many MGTOW proponents blame feminism or "society". This is incorrect. Biology is the cause, is my argument.

Females are born privileged and with innate worth in life. Males are not born with innate worth. It is only within extremely artificial aspects of society, such as fundamentalist catholicism or islam, that males are born with "innate worth". In fact, I suspect that these were the first causes of the creation of mass religion, to address these problems, causes, and their effects.

In order to stabilize males in society, an artificial system was created, long ago, within christianity and other major religions. Males were made "equal", presumably with women. This is the logical fallacy and common error. The rendering equality of man, with women, does not reflect what nature is and what nature does.

Nature rejects males from society, due to the elements of conflict, argument, doubt, disruption, primarily over control of women. Men fight over the women, for sexual access.

Artifice was created to control this biological mechanism. Hence the creation of the abrahamic religions, christianity, judaism, and islam. Each of these is a reaction imposed upon their male proponents.

This also created the need to impose monogamy throughout human societies.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:54 pm

For example

Why in christianity, judaism, and islam, despite some sects of these religions supporting polygamy, do all of them support monogamy as a battom line?

Because men and women are not equal. I can offer this conclusion due to my reasoning and arguments.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 5:59 pm

You barley even touched the surface, mainly just gave a generalization of the differences. Give me some individualized psychoanalysis, mostly yours. Delve deeper, if you brag about this kind of stuff, I don't know.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 14, 2014 6:17 pm

I don't have time offhand to dig too deeply. Of the leading MGTOW proponents, I like Karen Straugh and Bar Bar the most. I think these two offer the most interesting observations of the mix. Stardusk offputs me, something about the monotone voice of his. He seems pretentious to me and haughty.

If I were to psychoanalyze then I would look more deeply into Bar Bars videos. Karen Straugh is pretty easy to figure out. Her interest in MGTOW and MRA revolves around her son, and fear about the type of society her son is going to become indoctrinated into. That's obvious and common sense. Mothers of boys have much, much to fear about life. Daughters are easy. Since females are the privileged gender.

Being born a white female is essentially being born into automatic immortality. All you have to do in life, as a white female, is spread your legs. You don't even need to be choosy or discriminate, these days, due to liberalism and the freeing of the female libido. A white female is untouchable, today.

In the future, things will change, and I attempt to figure out and predict how global society is going to change.

I'm out of time for now, more later.
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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptySun Jun 15, 2014 8:33 am

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I believe that challenges reflect the individual and group.  Without a powerful female present, a beautiful one, then males have less need to "prove" themselves.  Participants here will argue that "lies sa" and "phonee" are females worth fighting over, or for, but I disagree.



"Lies sa"?

That coming from you idiot, who called me a pedophile, and cannot even prove it...?

I Challenge you to show me proof.

I Dare you to show me proof.

But you can't. And that makes you the liar.


Many hide their simpleton-ness in their seeming complexity, but on the other side of the coin are those dunces like Neon who make it sooooo simple, that reality is simmered down to nothing but flashing mememememe...

Imagine reducing an Aryan female to being blond and blue-eyes only.

Imagine reducing male-friendship as a negative to the absence of females to fight over. The best friendships have even been born in war.

Imagine this clueless dunce defining Philosophy as agon when he sees friendship as a pacifism.

As to citations vs. this dunce's soft-porn rant,

There are two kinds of movement in this world. The centripetal and the centrifugal.

One cooks, and the other separates the cream from the milk.

One selectively condenses knowledge and the other deconstructs and splinters them into stands.

One contracts vast wisdom and collects into a symbol, a compact structure that silently speaks for itself, and the other expands wisdom and lets it flow out like a poetry, a radiation of light that brings out everything.

One is matter, the other is energy.

One is memory, the other is prophecy.

One is occult, the other is oracle.


I hope you remain clueless, dunce, because you give me a lot of laughter like nobody else.

You are the only one who can do that to me, and I'm grateful to your stupidity.

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PostSubject: Re: Projects Projects - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 17, 2014 2:42 am

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You would hate such a woman deeply. I hope I don't have to tell you why Wink
Well.............biooooooooooooootch

When are you going to back your words up???????

Or am I going to have to strike this one out as another nothing female implication where a twat implies something that she never planned to follow through with anyway???

Tell me about my WOWman......
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