MGTOW adopts feminism as a blueprint and then replaces feminism with a pro male agenda. I'm not saying its not poetic justice and a good 'payback' but that it began as a reaction to feminism It does not go into racial issues, applying the same logic to other controversial issues....or at lest it didn't last time I checked which was a long time ago. Don't know what it is now.
When I addressed the issue to Stargazy, as I called him, he refused to go there. He didn't want to turn away men from the movement by applying the same reasoning he did to male/female types to racial types.
'Going your own way' is ridiculous because the return of sexual power to females automatically excludes the majority of males from the gene-pool. When I mentioned how they, Stardusk, Barbarossa and Girlwriteswhat, wanted to stand up for men's rights but refused to admit that Paternalism was what established a rule that allowed the majority of males to find a mate and to pass on their genes. MRA wanted to expose feminism but not why feminism emerged, after the decline of paternalism.
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Slaughtz
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Millennial Woes, forefront Alt-Rightist, admits to homosexual history.
It explains the defensiveness of the Tara McCarthy female - coming from a desire that white men have a broad definition of femininity worth protecting. Tara's resentful quipping against white men not protecting her enough, for 'being passive' in the face of 'harassment', squawking off about how white men are misogynists if they tell a woman she pushed too far. It's no wonder M.W. did not act with tough love toward the female, because he is incapable of it. The revelation gives my criticism of him a foundation.
Anfang
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Don't really know what happened with McCarthy, haven't followed it at all but I think that women or homosexuals participating in political discussions with heterosexual men doesn't work out. They can do their part but if the hierarchical top positions in terms of respect get filled with women then it's all coming down.
In the comments sections I see high up-votes for a woman who proclaims that she is not for opening up the alt-right for feminism because "equality for women is already a thing" in the West. F..king based! Equality has already been achieved, hooray, so that's why there is no need for feminism.
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Oh, and I'm blocked so I cannot tell her that I made no threats, only gave her the reality of the situation. Either we conquer white women or the Semites (and its economic apparatus) do.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] When it comes down to it, there is male tribes vying for dominance over women. If the woman chooses to believe in Jewish rooted ideology above her own survival, it's her choice. We'll treat them exactly as they should expect to be treated by those they're welcoming to destruct them, but in our own favor.
This kind of woman would not understand why men can understand a rapist behaving as he does.
And there is no respect I expected to gain from a woman over a Twitter debate - not enough nuance allowed and short bursts allowing no context.
Another manifestation of femitheist, in the end, even among racially aware women - "You cannot erase feminism from our consciousness". Yes, technology invented by a man, will become your sex's freedom... Funny. And she talks about ZOG being a problem, but that tasty nihilistic freedom given to them by (((feminism))) is just too succulent to resist.
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Women do what is in their nature to do - they adopt ideals and make themselves a means for their progression. They are minimally invested. As soon as the memetic tides shift the promiscuous ones will be on the forefront of the fashion trend, only to later claim they were always so. The majority will hold onto investments made, fight no the side of power, until defeat is obvious, and then they will suffer a period of mourning before they are reborn as the new, ready to serve whatever master dominates the social environment they need to carry-out their reproduction role.
Genetic/Memetic filtering systems. The keepers of the hearth because of this. Solid, porous, fixed....and easily adjusted. The sieve's grid determines the severity of their filtering judgments - their sexual choices. Great insult, to a female, to accuse her of having a sieve full of gaping holes, allowing almost anything to pass through; greatest affront to push through, by force, what they have not allowed to settle, and pass through slowly, wit no pressure, using gravity.
There Modern females are lost causes. They will suffer the consequences of the decay and decadence they so passionately serve.
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There Modern females are lost causes. They will suffer the consequences of the decay and decadence they so passionately serve.
Unfortunately the case.
That said, and it has no bearing on the common denominator of the behavior you observed from what I posted, but I noticed my mistake in that exchange and issued an apology on Twitter for it. Here it is:
I have now been blocked by the woman who was engaging with me - and I do not blame her. I now have egg in my face, to lecture Woes on PR and then I cannot handle even Twitter exchange with a woman. I want to apologize both to her and those whose argument I represented. Bear w/ me. The mistake I made was accepting her change of frame to an argument about an individual woman's behavior and the knightly defenses of it, to one against the Manosphere or MGTOW in general. Inevitably, we would have gotten in a fight about the legitimacy of whether or not the change of frame is justified - and I did not have an argument prepared for this, nor did I want to deal with this involved argument in a Tweeting format, since I do not use this platform much, to explain or engage in that sort of battle. To sweeten brutal reality, especially to a woman, requires a lot extra language to demonstrate there's no ill intent, either at division or as an attack on her. This is not her fault. It was my own unwise continuation of the conversation without engaging in the argument about the frame of it, to qualify that I am talking about a specific woman and defending those that criticize her and her knights, and not the 'go back to the kitchen' types, that resulted in me being blocked. I apologize to her, because it may have caused undue stress or frustration and it was from my own incompetence. I should not be half-assing it here on Twitter if I'm going to use the platform, and letting my own incompetence when using it become an excuse not to address the argument, which was legitimate. It's reasonable for her to presume that I changed frames with her when I did not address it - and her arguments against me are right, if I was defending MGTOW and Manospheres that hate women because of (((feminism))). Now, I'd like to have that argument about the frame, but I also do not want to continue it here on Twitter because of my incompetency with it. I do not know if there's any other relevant platform to perform it on that's even worth the trouble for the good of the white race. Not enough eyes. So I will instead leave my apology as it is. I just did not want to engage the stronger part of her argument. I may post a link later to a post I did exploring it the best I can.
Jarno
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Not only women are a lost cause, but males have not seen in their entire lives an example of male dominated relationship so how can they know how to be in a relationship with a woman, it's a constant power struggle.
I have even recently met a lot of intelligent attractive women who want men to put them in their place. Even if the woman had all the same ideas as you and says the right things it doesn't mean it will automatically work out, women will still act irrational and you have to guide them. So for me it's kind of sad to spectate these men who think it will work out if they just go along with it and compromise, it's very common for men to isolate themselves from others when they get into a relationship (obviously), it would still be a long process to change the indoctrination even if they knew what was the right way to act.
Slaughtz
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The difference between right/left is a matter of how the individual relates not only to world but also to the group he belongs to - whether this group is a species identity, a ethnic, racial or a national one.
Left places the group above and ahead - places the group in-between itself and the world beyond - herd psychology. Right places the individual above and ahead of the group - places himself in-between group and world.
In the first case the individual perceives world through the group, and this is reflected in its judgments and philosophy, and in the second the individual perceives world directly and makes of itself a vehicle through which the group can engage world - independently.
A confused mix of the two is when one individual from the first group (left) stands out, but not ahead, making of itself an alternate world for the group.
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Speaking with those who like to call themselves Euroepan. Those who practice restricted immigration but sell the ideals of open immigration, and cultural Marxism. Sell one thing, think a second, and do a third.
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It would be obvious and non-debatable if we allowed each individual and group to pay the costs for their bad judgments. But we live in a nihilistic would of sheltering, where the costs are shared and the debate is over what we do with the benefit. Do we distribute them evenly or do we allow the benefits to be enjoyed, excursively, by the one who produced them? This is the only permissible debate. The right/left debate.
This produces the delusion that all perspectives are equal, but they result in different benefits. the costs are never permitted to fall upon the individual excursively. the system intervenes to protect it form its own bad judgments, and its own delusions. This is why we have imbeciles coming to forums, supposedly about philosophy, to share their perspectives, and their bad judgments, demanding to be taken seriously and to be included alongside all judgments.
It's all because the moron is protected from his own bad judgments. The system, like a parent, intervenes to reduce the severity....like the contraceptive pill, abortion clinics, bankruptcy laws, the legal system, the medical system...all protecting idiots form themselves, and feeding into their narcissistic sheltered-based delusions. Like children feel invulnerable, indestructible because they've enjoyed a life under the protection of a parent, suddenly face a reality check, in adolescence when they are confronted with a world that does not give a shit about what they want, or what their dreams are, or what they think of themselves. But Democratic systems do no such thing. Especially liberal ones. Citizens do not have to grow up, so they never do. They prefer to exist in the protective shell, because there they can fantasize about how brilliant they are, or how powerful, or how free. If we were to stop interventions then the harsh reality of their delusions would shock them....I dare say that it may kill some of them, after decades spent under the protective umbrella they now take for granted. Women and emasculated men-children, like teenagers are staunch supporters of State, because most of them intuitively know that their delusions, their self-image is entirely dependent on institutional support. What is the defining trait of a teenager? The same as what Moderns idealize. Sexual promiscuity, sense of entitlement, linguistic posturing, in the form of jargon, corrupting the language to appear cool, different, signalling using symbols like music, fashion, heightened sensitivity and impressionability, becoming obsessed with icons and pop-idols etc. Modernity is a stat of perpetual adolescence. a stunting based on the effects of the nihilistic dis-ease. Nihilistic memes stunt development by infecting the mind/body through the nervous system. By severing the connection of mind to body, the body loses the mind's control, and the mind loses the body's grounding. Symbols/Words are how the mind is detached from the body - the ideal is severed from the real, the noumenon is disconnected from the phenomenon.
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Overlapping is part of evolution theory. A chimpanzee's traits overlap with a human's if we take the entire human spectrum as potentials. The extreme lower part of the bell curve overlaps with a chimpanzee's extreme upper part. Evolution is not about absolute divisions, but gradual, division - gradations. Nothing is about absolute differences, but sameness is a measure of a degree of difference, as power is not omnipotence relative to feebleness, but a measure of degree of weakness, and knowledge is not omniscience but a measure of a degree of knowledge and understanding, and truth is not absolute certainty, but a measure of a degree of uncertainty, based no precedent/experience, the past.
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What the alt-right needs is a lesson on how memes are gene specific.
How can a people, tribes, that could not invent the socioeconomic principles of a more sophisticated sociopolitical system, and who could not implement it even when they were given the basics, then enter a functional system and integrate or maintain it? You can train chimpanzees to imitate and do many complex tasks, but they cannot internalize the behaviour, they can only imitate it and will revert back to their natural behaviours when external control is loosened.
People who could not invent nor maintain a Canadian, Anglo-French culture, like Canada, cannot enter Canada and take over its functions....they will degrade the system, because if they could maintain it they would not have to come to Canada. Negroes took over South Africa....that Europeans built up to a formidable country in the midst of shit-holes. Look at what they did to the place.
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Spencer is doing a live speech in Michigan. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] Apparently there's only about 20 people in the audience because there's an antifa riot going on outside.
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Slaughtz
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Perhaps we should let Christians step forth to face this mutated version of the disease. We are few and we are bad liars. This is a war of deception, and the best deceivers are those that can deceive themselves. We lack the traits to fight in feminine wars. We prefer to stand, face to face, man to man. This enemy is effete, It uses deception, word-games, proxies, slander, gossip, all the tools of women. We ought to allow women to fight it for us. What more emasculated spirits can we find than Christianity? The masses have been born and raised on it, and the loss of god will not be easily substituted with those ancient traditions, now long forgotten, and strange to the common mind.
Christians are formidable self-deceivers, and will challenge the parasites like our more manly methods cannot. They are, after all, their spiritual decedents...and it is appropriate to pit daughter against miserly mother. This is a war like no other, after all. I've recently renamed it Nebulous War, so as to not plagiarize Hanson and to express the essence of this conflict with an insidious, dishonest foe...a virus that hides, and pretends to be one of us, slowly infesting our thinking, our spirit, exploiting our anxieties and desires.
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Alt-Right Enoch about the propping up of milquetoast (~controlled opposition) as 'extreme'. The agenda to create a new center which neuters any out-groups to SJWism into pacifism and acquiescent get-alongism. The 'right' which said no to gay marriage 10 years ago now is having a 'nazi faggot' paraded as their foremost intellectual by their opposition media.
Satyr Daemon
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Subversion is part of the diseases panoply. Blurring the lined, convolution, confusing identities, obscuring the meaning of words referring to types. It's a war over hearts and minds, using symbols/words.
Milo is a case in point. A fag representing white European males, making the threat into a clown performance, a circus act.
European males are the enemy. European females are the bounty, the reward for eliminating the males. Anything that unites European males, including Christianity, is to be destroyed. Individualism, as Peterson and others sell it, an American version of divide and conquer, is a way of dividing European identity.
In pagan tradition the male carried the genealogy....he births, according to the Hellenes....the female carries to term, gestates, nurtures.
The male was the carrier of his people's identity - his genetic lineage. The female was a means to externalize it, to bring it forth into world. Destroy the European male, and you make Indo-European traditions extinct...at least its western branches, because there's still northern India - which is also being subverted with these so-called 'western values'. Infect through the weakest - children, females, and emasculated males, lost boys, desperate to be released from their past men-children....seeking redemption, salvation from themselves and the responsibility this entails - the heavy burden, the costs.
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Anfang
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I think those actually White people ( not the fellow (((white))) people) who are still spewing anti-White hate cannot be convinced. In fact, their positions of influence depend on their anti-Whiteness. Would they be convinced to become somewhat sympathetic to the European way, they would quickly be removed from their rank. What they can do is serve as potential foils to expose their mentality to third parties who can potentially be influenced to rethink their identity.