Observations and Thoughts too short for their own threads - 2

Anfang wrote:

It's true that the patriarchy or European civilisation put (mostly metaphorical) shackles on women. Shamed them too for inappropriate behaviour. Did even the same with men, who would have thought that. But I doubt that successful pagan societies didn't do the same. Not having standards is the sign of decline and social decay be it today or at the time when pagan societies disappeared, when collapsing from within.

I wonder if Varg will blame himself if despite his efforts to "redpill" his daughter, she still ends up turning modern and marries a "degenerate". But women's choice is never "wrong", right?

Or she grows to idealize those "Liberal barbarians" like her dad and ends up dying alone through never finding a man that can measure up.

If we leave the blame game behind for a second, in the end, what's bad about men shaming women when they do degenerate things? Same goes the other way as well but that's not the issue here.

What's bad about European men not cucking themselves?
Does that matter to Varg? I thought it's all f-ed up anyway?

I get the impression that Varg promotes (self-aware of it or not) a pagan elite, according to his standards, which is to distance itself from the degenerate/other Europeans and see them as a means to their ends.

While larger parts of the Alt-right want to lead/influence the European peoples as a cohesive group/empire.

More specifically, this elitism is resolving around Varg himself being at the center, or at least his life/situation is the ideal template for the rest to strive for.

Varg thinks that civilization will collapse within the foreseeable future. He thinks that the main cause of (white) problems is civilization itself, ie anything after we invented agriculture. He idealizes barbarian, tribal existence instead. A lot of the subtext of what he and his wife does revolves around growing their own food, fixing their own cars, educating their own children, instead of becoming dependent on a wider society, or on money.
I think his criticism about the blaming of women is that he perceives degenerate males as blaming their own inadequacies on women. I don't think he denies feminism as an issue, he is just trying to prevent (white) men from turning on their women like those mgtow faggots.
Varg wants to disengage from this society, he doesn't think it's fixable (he's right), the altright want to work within the system's rules to fix it (not possible), so what Varg is trying to do is not too different to us. He wants to create a little oasis where what he values in the world will survive the coming collapse, to whatever extent he can build it.

He is unusual in that he seems to be able to piss everyone off for one reason or another. Seeing how his children turn out will definitely be interesting. Instead of declaring to the crowds how he thinks they should live their lives, he does it himself, he acts as the change he wants to see in the world. Time will tell if his attempt is viable or not.

I agree except for the 'foreseeable future' and 'civilization collapsing'.
The US is not 'civilization...it never had much of a civilization. It capitalized on geography and European strife, and was thrust into dominance.
It was already infected from before the war, but it became ill, completely 'zombified' afterwards.
When one power declines, another rises. The vacuum is filled...path-of-least-resistance.
Cracks in the wall are filled, until the wall is replaced.
Rome didn't collapse....it split in two, along the cracks created by the infection from the near-east.
A new empire took its place.

That modern males blame women, is fact. It was what I started attacking the MRA's on, when it was only Satardusk and Barbarossa. They blocked me fast.
Women simply go to the 'strongest' masculine energy. Their loyalties adjust, when they sniff a new dominance in the air. It's their nature. They have to be so, to fulfil their reproductive role. Women don't want intimacy, or soft, tender men...they say they do but when they get that, they quickly lose interest. They don't even know themselves - Know Thyself is not what women do....they are gifted in knowing others.
Women want mystery, romanticism, a bit of excitement.....which we know is respect, as in anxiety, a bit of fear, intimidation from a male. The male has to make them a bit scared, or nervous, not comfortable. That's after you fuck 'em. Cuddling, making them feel like they are not going to be disrespected, now that you've had them....wanting to feel safe and cared for. But that's after the sex....to become aroused the female needs tension, dramatics...conflict. She wants to feel like she put up a good fight but succumb to a powerful force. She has to make her penetration less shameful, her surrender less of a defeat.
That's why they 'test' males, constantly...gauging their strength, evaluating if and when to bolt and find a new stronger male.
They are genetic and memetic filters.
MGTOWS bitch because they are being filtered out.
Funny when I told Stardusk that by attacking paternalism he was screwing himself.....he flat out rejected the idea. Naive imbecile...he thought he could shame women, by 'turning away'.
These morons thought paternalism was the problem.....so they simply adopted feminism and just changed the 'feminine' with 'masculine', and kept everything else the same - the justification, the tactics etc. Only males are not genetic filters so women could care less if a faggot ignores them, or 'turns away'.
Women are sperm samplers....and 'turning away' just made their job easier.
Women need to be told, directed, guided...dominated.
Passive aggressive crap is feminine behaviour...it accomplishes the opposite of what these imbeciles intended.
Then the 'movement' became about social pressure, and rights, and also about gathering all the excluded from the gene-pool...a self-help on-line meeting...only problem was that it also attracted faggots who saw an opportunity, and losers who were looking to vent.

I don't see them mentioning MGTOW.
I read and hear alt-right, European men, degenerate.
I don't think his channel will be censored anytime soon.

His audience would never put shackles on women, just like the MGTOW.

I don't see much blaming of women coming from the alt-right.
Maybe he/they are confusing shaming with blaming.
Maybe they confuse denying women respect with blaming.

Not the alt-right, but MRA and early MGTOW was all about how women were screwing males.
Which makes sense if you think about how the institution took over the role of protector/provider, as it does in feminization, forcing men into surrogate feminine positions.
Even the representational role is now accessible to females.

It's like dogs....have you watched dog=whisperers?
The dog steps in to assert itself only if the human is weak, tolerant. The dog sees this as weakness.
Nature hates vacuums.
The concept of path-of-least-resistance implies not only how energies flow in space/time, without requiring a plan, a mind, a will, but also how weakness is soon overcome....like a crack in the dam wall is opened up by water.
Psychologically this works as dominance. Weakness is evaluated, constantly tested, and then invaded.
Power relationships.

Alt-right lacks a 'hook; as they call it in the music industry, a riff, or a message, the common man and woman can relate to and be inspired by.
Logic, reasoning, does not work....integrity, nobility, they can't understand. they need an easy, simple, self-serving, trigger.
I'm afraid we'll have to wait for Europeans to degrade to the point where need/suffering is the trigger, and the masses start looking for reasons why everything is crumbling to dust.
We're not there, yet. The US is still draining other nation's of their brain power, while their own is degrading, and this manages to maintain a standard of living they have become accustomed to.
The average imbecile who can only live in the here and now, in the present, with no past and a shallow future, will not care about Europeans males going gradually extinct.
The host doesn't realize it is infected, or a parasite is draining its energies and turning it into a zombie, until it's too late.

Like I said elsewhere, the process floods the brain with endorphins...so the diseases actually feel their degradation as pleasure.
We have to understand that what I call the 'virus' is a product of emerging self-consciousness, which exposes the mind to suffering. The virus numbs it to this suffering, it is a 'turning away' from reality.
The masses need a lie...and the parasite exploits this.
The average mind can't cope with anything above a certain level of complexity or exposure to reality.
That's why it seeks leaders to tell them, to guide them, to lead them....like females....because most are omega males...men-children that never had a chance to become alphas or even betas.

The problem with giving rights to weaklings is similar to an issue I faced at work.

When you help a moron once, out of the goodness of your heart, he then expects you to do so everyday. It becomes expected, your duty to help him.
So, if you give a weakling rights, that make him or her feel equal to you, he expects it from then on, as his right, and your duty.

Leftists made a bad move when they took over or took away all their enemies' forms of distraction. When people have nothing to distract them, they tend to awake to reality and start taking action.

The left has problems with itself.
It's because of the paradoxes created when you believe in word-based theories, and you have to survive in a world of actions.
The ideal vs real, conflict can only end with a defeat of the ideal, or its hypocrisy, to survive and still not let go of its ideal.
This is the entire thing with the exoteric vs esoteric crap, and how obscurantism can seduce and manipulate, and gain popularity, among imbeciles, and men-children, but it is impotent outside of their adulation.
See, this is how the parasite uses proxies....the host, to deal with reality, because it can't do it itself.

The left has to self-deceive....has to lie to itself, because it is forced to contradict its own stated, verbally, convictions, or die living in accordance with them.
It has a history of bullshit, like Christianity apologetics, and martyrdom....imbeciles dying because they could not lie, and they could not abandon their idealism.

I call this the Jewish Paradox: power and influence based on victimhood, is paradoxical. It's strength gained peddling weakness.
This creates intellectual dissonance.
You say one thing, do another, and in your head you believe a third.
This is the 'noble lie' Strauss was all about - obscurantism.
you can justify any delusion...you can even make Nietzsche your icon, while believing things that contradict his aphorisms.
You can also disassociate Christianity from Judaism and Islam, finding minor difference and ignoring the huge similarities.

I've already described how Nihilsits use the 'nil' to build their idealistic naive delusion, because nobody is omniscient, right?...and also to dismiss anything, or anything that challenges their delusion, and which they can't contradict, by finding a single flaw.

Just think what a powerful tool the 'nil' is....the absence of absolutes...or the absence of omnipotence/omnipotence.
Using it you can both declare any absurdity as possible, and also declare a superior hypothesis as irrelevant.
Naive idealist, or all negating cynic.

There's no in-between, no gradations.
There's no hierarchy.
It's either 'all is one' or 'all is nil'. They tremble before uncertainty, fluidity...Flux.
They want to be absolved of all responsibility, and become 'innocent' as a way of accepting their ignorance.

The 'left' hates the 'right' because they remind it of its own self-deceit; its own ignorance, feebleness, cowardice seeking refuge in delusion.
Most of the time they find an adequate scapegoat in the 'right' who are also imbeciles of a different kind.

Right<>Left, as it has become in the west are two sides of the same Nihilistic coin....part of the same binary logic....one the opposite pole within the same paradigm.
Alt-Right is trying to break out of it, but its forced to seek converts and build a base, among those born and raised within the paradigm....and among imbeciles; its forced to abide by the ruled of engagement in this War like no Other....so it must become popular among the retards, so it must conceal its true nature.

Politics is about lying.
Nihilism excels because it is based no words and word-games....so lying is its essence.
You can only compete with a lie with a bigger and better lie.  
It is also why beginning a debate, with a retard, on the existence of a one-god, is a loss from the get-go. as son as you start you've lost, because you've already accepted with delusion as a starting premises, and you can only offer an equally absurd negation of it.
Like trying to debate someone on the existence or not of unicorns. But worse, because the one-god is entirely noetic, pure idea....and has no corporeality, no empiricism, or reference to anything experienced...it is the antithesis of the experienced.

You can never convince a moron of anything if he's abandoned the world as his standard.
To even begin you'll have to find out what he's replaced the world with....is it emotion, hope, love,ideology, ego...whatever it is you will have to give him/her something comparable, or superior.
So, a Christian believes in his delusion of a one-god because he is afraid of dying, elt's say.
How can you hope to talk reason to him if you can't offer anything comparable or superior?
There's no way he'll give up his crutch for anything lower than what it offers him. you already know he's an imbecile or a coward, for even considering it seriously.....but now you have years, decades, of habituation and committed investment to break through.
Mission impossible.

When an illness has proceeded for too long, the patient can no longer be saved.
Intervention is inferior to prevention.

To get rid of the pain of their willful preferences being denied, they seek a world where no willful preferences exist.



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[size=31]A man can no longer say he'll date "anyone" and there be a sane presumption he means a woman.[/size]

Commensurability itself is (by Pagans) greater between natural phenomenon than between the phenomenal and noumenal or the noumenal and noumenal. In the latter it is arguable there is only one sort. Of the median, perhaps as numerous as the senses. Of the foremost, an explosion of possibility more, encompassing even the noumenal.

[size=48]The great humility and wisdom of Pagans are their recognition of the homogeneity of their noumenal interactions at its most basic form, recognizing [above]. The Abrahamic and other sorts of nihilistic religions/cults emphasize and believe in "cognitive diversity", or heterogeneous thought, some believing it to be "free" qua "freedom". For a Pagan, a task of 'free thought' requires discipline and rigorousness as it seeks to resolve dissonance, to structure their own mind in a way successfully adapted to the world and its demands (without breaking them), rather than a fancying of how the world should adapt to their minds (i.e. sin). The Christian imagines that Pagans would, upon considering their worldview, have no justification for acting at all if there were not some hidden nihilism which says to them they deserve food enough to hunt, eat, etc. Such a degree the Christian considers this, that they would imagine themselves fully paralyzed without such thinking. [/size]

Oh wow a new and updated version of this wheel.

When you try to subvert society but end up giving good advice, at least as general guidelines...

Those who are criticized can have multiple responses to it: antipathy, indifference and gratitude.

The antipathic demonstrates an inability to absorb the critique and affirm its implications. It demonstrates a weakness. Indifference demonstrates an already-having-conquered. And gratitude demonstrates an affirmation and desire to overcome, perceiving that ability.

Critiques are not contentless or insubstantive attacks, ad hominems, or other similar behaviors. For example, critiques of 'privilege' which can be explained by merit.

Critique of other, or of self, is an honest analysis of the situation and the individual in relation to it.
That it usually takes the form of a 'negative' assessment is because of the human propensity to focus on the 'positive', flattering, hope-giving, while ignoring or under-estimating the negative, giving a skewed analysis.

Don't call it having no culture, being a consumer-drone.
Call it multi-culturalism.

Don't call it having no ideas of your own.
Call it being open-minded, for whatever may be in the latest Vogue.

Hiding (willfull) ignorance.
Under the guise of having an endless repertoire of unfalsifiable answers, all equally right and equally meaningless.

Look at these inbred goatfuckers.

White people tend to create a more or less ordered society so that all comedy is mostly intentional and restricted to stand up routines and movies.

Low-IQ shitskin races, especially when combined with white technology, create these chaotic low-trust societies where comic situations, often unintentionally, occur in everyday life.

I guess this might be what liberals think is so vibrant about flooding white countries with hordes of these low IQ retards.

Seeing them deal with modern society is like looking at cats and dogs try to deal with human inventions like vacuum cleaners and such. It can be a fun sight to behold.

Their constant defeat on the battlefield is ascribed to their lower intelligence, and hyper-masculinity...a kind of over-compensating madness.

Satyr wrote:

Their constant defeat on the battlefield is ascribed to their lower intelligence, and hypo-masculinity...a kind of over-compensating madness.  

Hypo-masculinity? Well, it makes more sense than the usual accusation of "hyper-masculinity" that you used to level at sand-niggers.

I find the idea of hyper-masculinity as absurd as the idea of hyper-beauty. Just seems like a way to try to insult those who embody certain desirable traits to the greatest extent.

Yes...Hyper-masculinity.
It's over-shooting the mark because you do not see it.
A child exaggerates certain aspects of adulthood, because it cannot relate. It takes what it can see and imitates it, and like all imitations it is an exaggeration of specific traits.

The Muslim surrenders, submits, like a bitch, to a God....a masculine figure.
But he cannot relate, because it is an idea(l), so he takes what he does understand and inflates it into a hyperbole...wanting to be believable.
He can then, literally, blow himself to pieces to prove that he was as manly as the 'masculine' ideal he prostrated himself before, like a bitch.

Like a orphaned son who idolizes a dead father.
He over-estimates and then over-compensates, because he can never live-up to his own idealization.

There is no hyper-beauty. Hyper-symmetry, proportionality?
That implies perfection...and perfection implies infinite probabilities.
All value judgements are juxtapositions.
The idealist juxtaposes the real with his idea(l), which is always vague, noetic, adaptable, and often absolute.
The realist juxtaposes the observed with the observed.

AutSider wrote:

Satyr wrote:

Their constant defeat on the battlefield is ascribed to their lower intelligence, and hypo-masculinity...a kind of over-compensating madness.  

Hypo-masculinity? Well, it makes more sense than the usual accusation of "hyper-masculinity" that you used to level at sand-niggers.

I find the idea of hyper-masculinity as absurd as the idea of hyper-beauty. Just seems like a way to try to insult those who embody certain desirable traits to the greatest extent.

They did a study. The males with average testosterone were straight. The males with double the normal testosterone were gay. The sample set wasn't very large though. The evidence may have been anecdotal.

I dunno. I'm weird. Yesterday I was browsing games on Xbox. All the games seemed gay to me. Like either too masculine and macho for me. Or too watered down like for daycare and 3 year olds with simplistic graphics. I kept saying how gay the games were. And I only liked the feminine girly games with pretty colors. Even though I was feeling feminine, and my voice sounded feminine and/or gay, I couldn't get aroused at guys. I could not lust at anything but hot busty anime girls. They made me feel crazy. And excited like I had way too much energy.

When you're hungry everything looks like a meal.

Being so full of testosterone that you will fuck anything, does not make you gay.
A thirsty man may try to drink from the ocean, a starving man will eat one of his own kind.

When we dress, covering the body genetics has given us, we accentuate what we feel insecure about, and hide what makes us feel vulnerable: Hyper-, Hypo-.

There is a tendency among moderns to justify whatever ideals they might have, simply through the apparent display of victory or strength in the immediate. Take the Civil War for example, many tend to cite it as "proof" of the equality of all men simply due to the Union's victory, without reference to the phenomena. They, despite their self professed desire for peace, truly believe that might makes right and that any victory, no matter how shallow and quantitative it may be, validates whatever retarded ideal they might be holding. Unfortunately the slavish nature of an ideal can take generations for it to unravel and hold the descendants of such a victory accountable for the stupidity of their forefathers, whom will still be held in high regard due to the disconnected nature of the consequences.

Edit: This also serves to explain the Youthful dominance of Christianity, and its current decline with apologists attempting to revive it.

Politicization of everything is such a vulgar trend, they are willing to sacrifice truth, dignity, already existing structures and systems with some level of efficiency, just to step over the other side and 'win' their party and their 'public face' into the power whilst at the same time not knowing why they are doing that besides what has been spoon-fed to them by the party they stand behind and not holding their elected party accountable for what they do once being elected...

Yes. It is a symptom of dumbing down of society. Personally I don't even like to watch the news. Mostly its just American Zombies who are always glued to the news. Every two seconds having to turn on the tele and regurgitate the news, and then get hysterical over the latest thing in the news. The news is just negative energy that I don't need in my life. But americans seem to feed on it, like zombies.

They say the world's IQ is increasing every year since 100 years ago. But I just don't feel it, it doesn't seem that way to me.