The Rise and Fall of Cultures.

Satyr wrote:

We are nearing the end of the nation-state - just as the city-state became obsolete, so too is the natiuon-state become obsolete.
What will follow is the SuperState, absorbing the nation and city states into a cohesive whole.

Yes. In late antiquity, this superstate was called the "Imperium Romanum".

Satyr wrote:

I think Nietzsche predicted that the announcement of the 'death of god' would lead to god's replacement by nationalism, which is saying that the totalitarian, authoritarian one-god of Abraham would cast off its pretences and revel itself as a representation of the idealization of collective.

Nietzsche said that the "Übermensch" ("Superman" is again a not quite accurate translation) will replace God.

When Nietzsche said this, Europe / the White World was almost in the midst of nationalism, and therefore it is no wonder that he also took nationalism into account in his prediction, but he did not primarily mean nationalism, but "die Besten" ("the Best")as those endowed with the strongest will to power, as the word "Übermensch" is supposed to represent.

Nietzsche’s philosophy revolves around three points as doctrinal pieces: (1) Eternal Recurrence of the Same; (2) Wille zur Macht (Will to Might [Power]); (3) Übermensch.

Satyr wrote:

As I've said:
Humanity = god; god = humanity.
Monotheism implies the elimination of all biological and cultural identifiers that stand in the way of unification into a singularity - another way of saying organisms organized into a SuperOrganism; becoming cells in a larger organic unity, distinguished only by their work, their contribution to this collective, i.e., communism.
Americanism attempted unification through miscegenating and money - messianism. An individual's work, value in relation to the Superorganism represented by money - representing the approval of the collective. No races, no sexes/gender, no ethnicities, no cultures, only money rewarding and distinguishing individuals within the collective ....

It is to this system, as favored by Americanism and, in its further execution, globalism, that we owe the entire catastrophe from which humanity is threatening to disappear forever. It is the greed for money. I do not mean the greed for money, which is in every individual to a certain percentage, but the greed for money as a system. One could also say that as a culture becomes civilization in its late times, it always helps the money to power and such money greed systems get easier and easier game. Just as the Ancient Greeks transitioned the culture and first into its civilization and also shaped it up to a certain point in time (end of the 2nd Punic War), the Ancient Romans determined it from that very point in time until its end. If you insert here for the ancient Greeks the occidental Europeans and for the ancient Romans the US-Americans (and for the end of the 2nd Punic War the end of the 2nd World War), then you can derive from this roughly what is coming up to us. But since we are technically so far developed that the comparison to whichever other culture is no longer possible at least in the area of the technology, because the difference is infinitely large, therefore we must reckon just additionally with the most extraordinary, to say it rather nicely.

The Occidental Europeans are the basis: on the one hand their genetics and therefore biological race and on the other hand their culture and therefore cultural race. These people have spread all over the globe and - just like other cultures - have brought about their withering, their cultural fall, their civilization and thus their downfall, if they do not manage to reach their cultural winter and possibly even more. But Americanism/Globalism is by far the worst for this.

I have often said somewhere in this forum that I believe that our money people will blow themselves away at some point, just as the money people in other cultures have done. But with us, in addition to the money people, there are also the technical people, and in this case especially those of them who could also be called data people, because they manage the money of the money people in terms of data technology and bind them to themselves, if not even outbid them in power (another reason for war!).

Money is secular salvation.

Money purchases not only natural resources but human resources.
The wealthy man essentially bribes others to participate in his delusion, or to help him achieve his objectives.
Money creates collectives based on greed.
Money = power because you can create collectives based no the seductive promise - exploiting each separately but creating a unified collective.

It has no effect on reality, but only through the human resources you can bribe into participating in whatever project desired.

Three types of power - coercive (masculine), seductive (feminine) and bribery (exploitive).
Money creates the illusion of earthly salvation form natural limitations.

Americanism equates wealth with progress.
Liberating it from the limitations of reality - gold standard - they sell dreams. Money is the code of creating your own private - subjective - world, and then bribe others - lacking money - to participate in your private reality; exploiting human need/desire.

Abrahamism converted to Americanism.
Humanity = god....money is how god shows appreciation - divine grace.
When god is satisfied he rewards the performer who made the proper sacrifices.
Money is holy spirit - mediating between god/humanity and individual who is a reflection of god.
Money offers access to pleasures, and pleasure is how the individual feels god's grace, ro his salvation.

Existence is experienced as need/suffering, so pleasure is man transcending existence.
But money - divine god - is never enough. It cannot change reality, it can only create a shell, a bubble, that needs constant upkeeping and has to be expanded.

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Money is the ultimate language code of human exchange.
Like all words/symbols it is detached form reality, the tangible world, so as to make it ethereal.
American money refers to nothing tangible. It refers to the State, representing the collective who agree to use money for their intercourse, their binding exchanges.
Trust.
So the US just prints money.....as if it can do so forever....paying for an ever rising debt.
Because no mater how abstract it has become it still must refer to the tangible, real world.
Its salvation is illusory.
Nobody can escape the world; nobody can transcend their past.

Kultur wrote:

It is to this system, as favored by Americanism and, in its further execution, globalism, that we owe the entire catastrophe from which humanity is threatening to disappear forever. It is the greed for money. I do not mean the greed for money, which is in every individual to a certain percentage, but the greed for money as a system. One could also say that as a culture becomes civilization in its late times, it always helps the money to power and such money greed systems get easier and easier game. Just as the Ancient Greeks transitioned the culture and first into its civilization and also shaped it up to a certain point in time (end of the 2nd Punic War), the Ancient Romans determined it from that very point in time until its end. If you insert here for the ancient Greeks the occidental Europeans and for the ancient Romans the US-Americans (and for the end of the 2nd Punic War the end of the 2nd World War), then you can derive from this roughly what is coming up to us. But since we are technically so far developed that the comparison to whichever other culture is no longer possible at least in the area of the technology, because the difference is infinitely large, therefore we must reckon just additionally with the most extraordinary, to say it rather nicely.

The Occidental Europeans are the basis: on the one hand their genetics and therefore biological race and on the other hand their culture and therefore cultural race. These people have spread all over the globe and - just like other cultures - have brought about their withering, their cultural fall, their civilization and thus their downfall, if they do not manage to reach their cultural winter and possibly even more. But Americanism/Globalism is by far the worst for this.

I have often said somewhere in this forum that I believe that our money people will blow themselves away at some point, just as the money people in other cultures have done. But with us, in addition to the money people, there are also the technical people, and in this case especially those of them who could also be called data people, because they manage the money of the money people in terms of data technology and bind them to themselves, if not even outbid them in power (another reason for war!).

The Ancient Greeks were often called upon by the rulers in the Parthian Empire, Pontus and other eastern states to defend themselves against the Roman occupiers and exploiters, to rise up, and in Ephesus, for example, 80,000 Romans were murdered in 88 BC. The Romans were hated. Imagine if Putin and one or more of his successors kept calling on Europeans to stand up against the occupiers and exploiters from the US.

“There is the moral of all human tales;⁰'Tis but the same rehearsal of the past.⁰First freedom and then Glory – when that fails,⁰Wealth, vice, corruption – barbarism at last.⁰And History, with all her volumes vast,⁰Hath but one page...”
- Lord Byron [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

— M. E. Rothwell (@merothwell) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Cultures seem to have two extremes:

1. Virulent, highly contagious, "Big Lies" that primarily focus on offering the masses of humanity a Utopian "Afterlife", "in the future". Just as fish in the sea never evolve, so too do humans keep taking the bait decade after decade, century after century, and probably will continue this course forever, for thousands, millions of years. It will never-not work. It will always work. Because it's too effective for the low-IQ to resist. It's too tempting, water in the desert, a draught for those dying of spiritual dehydration.

2. Exclusive, highly disciplined, Traditionalism that will readily resort to violence to defend their Morality and Moral Beliefs (Islam). This is akin to Roman Catholicism, when Rome and the Catholics were strong. When a faith is strong, it utilizes violence freely against those who would otherwise destroy it through underhanded and conniving ways. This is also why Judaism and Marxism cannot infiltrate Islam as easily and readily as it can via Christian-Protestantism "turn the other cheek" pacivism.


So the two predominant methods:

1. Seductive Lies
2. Explosive Violence

Doolittle’s three modes of coercion: religion, state, law. According to his modeling, depending on which one develops first determines the next two, and the spiritual essence of a culture/civilization; its foundational core principles.

Doolittle, Curt wrote:

What are the three ways of human coercion?
1-Force, 2-Bribery, and 3-Ostracizing, corresponding to the three institutions of state, law and religion.

According to Doolittle the sequence in which each developed within a culture determined their cultural force, and importance – the proceeding dependent on the preceding; the last being the weakest of the three in any given sequence.
Law developed first among Europeans due to the harsh conditions that necessitating rules regulating reciprocity, and this shaped their cultures and the civilizations they birthed.