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Straussean esoteric readings is a clever way of rehabilitating ancient thinkers to conform to any standard - claiming that the text hides a subtext which agrees with a desirable conclusion - obscurantism.
Any author can be redefined to agree with any ideology and religious dogma if he remained artistic enough to use metaphors and allegories to mask his meanings.
Any text that remained sufficiently obscure becomes a text that can be given a desirable subtext.

There is a way to test a claim and your own understanding of it, involving the common - reality, i.e., nature, world.
Language can lie, the mind can lie through language....but the body, the physical, the tangible cannot - it can only be concealed and wilfully altered - warped, corrupted - leaving clues of a wilful intervention for those who have the investigative eye for details to see them - Sherlock Holmes eyes detecting the subtle.
Say one thing, think a second, and do a third. ...corresponding to language, concealing an underlying relationship between mind & body.
Redirection, pretense, obscurantism.
Counter-intelligence intelligence.
It is the third, the deed, that of the body, you must watch carefully.
Texts can always be manipulated to have any subtext...but deeds do not lie.
In the discrepancy between text/subtext and act, no pretext can conceal itself for long.

What is nature?
Sum of all past nurturing.
What is nurturing - dynamic, ongoing, presence, interpreted as appearance - this dynamic present/presence is existence.
It is where the will dances to a cosmic tune it participates in performing.

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Dutton is a good diagnostician but he fails to comprehend the source of this dis-ease.

Not all spirituality is nihilistic - not religious.
There are three major religions - spiritual nihilism encoded in Scripture; existing only as conviction and in text - semiotically; that declares the text itself sacred and absolute; that tolerates no other forms of spirituality, i.e., is totalitarian - extension of its monotheistic absolutism, and its either/or Messianism.

Nihilism is a philosophical category.
It is a reaction to naturally evolving self-awareness, multiplying the sources of anxiety - adding to the physical sources a mental component, i.e., self-consciousnesses adds to insecurity and the sense of vulnerability when it begins to become aware of how it relates/compares with others - objectivity is its anathema, subjectivity is salvation.

I described how nihilism is prevalent and it can take on far more forms relative to realism, because reality is bound to abide by empiricism and natural order, whereas nihilism is unbound, freed from the empirical, the experienced world, and this 'freedom' is why it is so seductive and part of its salvation myth - e.g., identity confusion is the symptom of this 'liberation' from the experienced , the tangible, the corporeal, essentially a liberation from the physical, the body.
This antithesis to the body is a central theme in all nihilistic doctrines/ideologies, making it particularly viral among desperate degenerates who wish to escape the representation of the past continuously manifested as presence and interpreted as appearance.

This is the salvation myth that crosses all nihilistic dogmas, both religious and secular.


As unfit mutations compound and are protected Dutton's "spiteful mutants" increase and become majorities. They overwhelm quality with their quantities - hordes of desperate degenerates frenzied with a desire to escape their own inherited feebleness and the constant reminder through their own bodies, i.e., their own forms, performance, appearance.
They despise the body because it represents a past made continuously present....awaiting to be revealed as appearance.
They want to bury it; conceal it, forget it - lethe. They want to die without dying - zombification.
They want their "spirit" - defined as mind - to live and their body to perish.
Mind acquires a mystical essence - it is no longer of the brain, of the body, but something cosmic, absolute.

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The degree to which an ideology/dogma proposes a nihilistic theory, i.e., the degree to which it refers to natural order, or contradicts experienced reality, determines the degree to which it must deceive in order to survive, i.e., the degree to which it must contradict its own logic and principles in order to maintain itself within a world it negates.

Spiritual dogmas, such as those of the Abrahamic triad, and secular political ideologies, such as Marxism, must contradict their own values, and principles if they hope to endure being applied in the real world which they attempt to nullify.
Only when they remain theoretical and inapplicable do they remain cohesive and true to their own logic and principles.

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Nihilistic spiritual dogmas and political ideologies are like passionate love-affairs.
The mind is enraptured by its lover, who can do no wrong, has no faults, and is perfect in every way – a source of unlimited potentials and unexplored possibilities – beautiful in the eye of the wanton beholder. But, as romantic idealism is brought into contact with an indifferent reality visions are cleared away, or fall into darkness, and if this first stage of blindness is survived then faults begin to be revealed, and previous "perfections" can, through disappointment and disillusionment, produce the opposite to the preceding erotic pathos.

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Nihilism is completely dependent upon and defined by words/symbols. It is, literally, nothing, without semiotics.
It's only potency is by defining existence, out of existence - negating it linguistically - otherwise it remains impotent; giving expression to the very sensation of impotence it declares itself omni-potent.
A self-cotnradition if you remain within the contexts of its linguistic inversions.

It refuses to define words objectively - placing the standard outside subjectivity - because if and when it does so it collapses under the weight of its self-referential deceptions - it's like a theoretical "house of cards" floating in noetic space/time, unable to come 'down to earth' because in noetic space/time it remains feasible, as a "possibility"; in noetic space/time a house of cards withstands earthquakes and tornadoes....because it is not limited by physical reality, by gravity.
It wants to stay there, in limbo....undermining all attempts to settle down and dig a foundation.
It is anti-philosophy - hatred of wisdom, or a love of folly.
It wants to bring the entire edifice down with it, unable to endure the thought of someone not falling for its errors in judgments; unable to bear the thought that its idiocy is not universal - parable of the sinner.
Al must be reduced down to its level, obscured, concealed, made so complex that nobody can ever know or understand anything...ever.
It wants to live in the final end, the Modern that ends all modernity - the Last Man, after which nothing better can ever emerge.

This is the core "resetiment" of nihilism, and I the anti-nihilist nihilist; the negator of negative worship. I understand the seductive power of nil, but do not give in to it.

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World inverters attempt to negate the world by theoretically turning it on its head. Cause becomes effect and effect becomes cause; logos precedes from action rather than proceeding from it, taking abstractions with it; represented and representation sequentially switch temporal positions proposing a negative conception of space/time which they transform into an image.
Admiring their sophistry they conceal the contradictory consequences with obscurantism and justify them mystically.

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What is nihilism?
An attitude, a school of thought, a demeanour....with multiple variants.
It is a defensive reaction to increasing self-awarness - a by-product of self-cosnciuosness using semiotics to create a defensive shield against the mind's increasing awareness of itself in relation to the world and to other minds within it.
A relief from anxiety based on two sources, 1- awareness of how self compares to another, 2- awareness that another is also becoming aware of this comparison, increasing the sense of being exposed, i.e., feeling vulnerable.

Nihilism denies objectivity as a method of protecting itself - denial, rejecting self altogether, or any external appreciation, i.e., judgment.
All must be subjective because this conceals self in subjectivity. No external perception is relevant or it can only be a product of an external will, such as god, or culture, so it applies universally. The ego finds concealment in uniform, multiplicities, in collectives - when all are sinners no one sinner stands out; when all are determined by absolute order, nobody is free; when all are proletariats there is no shame in being poor.

The individual can now hide in its own mind, encompassed by its ideological cocoon; a cocoon constructed linguistically.
The denial of an objective definition of concepts is part of its defensiveness.
With no shared standard no judgment can be made about anyone human...or anyone who can manipulate logos.  
Language is fundamental to nihilism because language is a technology, an art form, externalizing internal processes - or externalizing the mind's knowledge and understanding.
Mind is linguistically - abstractly - liberated from space/time. It is divine creator of its own world. A private world not accountable to anything outside of itself.

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Nihilism inverts, negating the real with an abstract idea/ideal with no refences outside minds, overturning what is perceived.

"Positive nihilism" appropriates and then corrupts, inverting the original into its opposite, its negation.
So, Paganism, or Indo-Euroepan spirituality, is appropriated, and inverted, i.e., warped, corrupted, to produce Satanism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam...etc.
They do not accept and worship nature and natural order, in the form of deities, e.g., Olympian and Hindu pantheon, they worship their own warped version of it, expressing disdain, and animosity towards nature and natural order.

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Nihilism attracts those who are insecure about themselves, those who secretly hate themselves, and this self-hatred is expressed as narcissistic, hyperbolic displays of self-love, and high self-esteem.
They despise their past, their nature, so much that in order to tolerate and acknowledge it they muse idealize it, inflate it into supernatural, extraordinary proportions, they must sanctify and deify it and their ancestry.

Then they become defensive, unable to tolerate the slightest criticism that threatens to expose their self-deciet and their pretence.
For them self-love is absolute, an Abrahamic sort of blindness to anything negative - it must be purifies in absolution because the real is "hateful", "evil", undesirable, too much top bear.

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Some people still do not understand my positions even when I've repeated them a thousand times in a dozen different ways.

Nihilism is a defensive reaction TO the emergence of self-cosnciuosness.
Memetics evolution proceeds from genetic evolution...and then exceeds it so as to guarantee and reinforce the sheltering effects with double and triple levels of contingency.

Nihilism is a school of thought, a ideological framework developing form the emergence of self-awarnes, that exposes man to another source of anxiety..so it evolves AFTER...just like all memes it is a projection, extension of genetic because genetic sis primarily about self-preservaiton and self-propagaiton, and not about awareness or nobility or anything.
Nihilism is a ideological school that begins as spirituality, i.e., Abrahamism, and then evolves into secular forms, i.e., Marxism, postmodernism...
There are myriad of possible nihilistic constructs, since ideologies disconnected from the limitations of natural order, or objectivity, has unlimited options. The only caveat is that it ought to be self-referential and be convincing, so as to make it viral, or seductive.
Sophisticated minds require sophisticated lies.

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Nihilism is the memetic shroud that conceals genetics.
It infects all levels of human interaction with an ideological framework that negates, i.e., denies, the relevance of biology and inheritance.
Nihilism is a school of thought, a pool of memes, that dismiss genetics either completely or selectively.
It is at the foundation of Abrahamic morality and postmodernism.

Attitudes toward race and gender and homosexuality are by-products of nihilism.
The fact that the majority now regurgitate the lie that race and sex are social constructs is its defensive ideological response to the indifference and brutality of natural selection - a rejection of traditional methods - attempting to reinvent family and sexual relationships to accord with postmodern morality.

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How does nihilism tie into evolution theory?

Reproduction and environmental factor produce mutations.
Some mutations are advantageous, some are disadvantageous and some are neutral, within a given environment. The advantageous ones are passed on, due to their contributions to the individuals fitness; neutral one ar passed no by chance or when they emerge alongside advantageous mutations; disadvantageous mutations perish, because of the disadvantages they impose on the individual.

Nihilism alters the environmental dynamics that shift what mutations are advantageous, disadvantageous and neutral...most often they filter out - they socially deselect - mutations that contradict its underlying ideology/dogma...which is anti-nature.
Mutations that would have been filtered out are filtered into a postulation, and are compounded over time.
This means that if and when the environment these nihilistic ideologies create and maintain collapses these individuals that carry these mutations are fucked. And ideologically maintained environments collapse frequently - they change at faster rates compared to natural environments.

But nihilistic ideologies have some common principles, which begin with a negation of natural order, so if one nihilistic environment collapses and is replaced by another, there is some continuity, because the desire to nullify nature's "injustices" is carried through and given new symbols/words, new ethical standards, new rituals and socioeconomic ideals.




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Nihilism is an attempt to usurp evolution and its natural selection methods with manmade socially selected methods.
This makes them increasingly dependent on continuous human interventions.
In the process man begins to evolve in antithesis to natural order making him increasingly codependent and institutionalized.

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For example...when once being born with a mental or physical disorder was a death sentence, it no longer is so, in manmade environments which promote and support such mutations, allowing them to propagate and persist over time.

In effect, the ideal, and adherence to its principles, is what determines who will survive and who will reproduce.
At the same time millions of years of natural selection has ingrained in humans an evolutionary standard for evaluating the another's qualities. This created psychosomatic conflicts, experienced as confusions or mind/body dissonance, depending on the degree of nihilism underlying the particular culture - its memetic "DNA", i.e., codes of conduct.
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An animal does not know why or how it feels pleasure when it copulates. It simply knows that it feels good and that sometimes offspring are born, unable to make the connection.
An animal does not know how or why it feels good to eat food and to consume water, it just feels the impulse and the need to do so and it does it.

A manimal cannot separate means from ends, it wants to revert to the simplicity of its primal, ignorant, impulsive state; it wants to return to a state of "innocence" where life is simple governed by feelings and sensations.
At the same time many manimals refuse to accept the relevance of their feelings and sensations, convinced that there is more to what they see and there is more to them than what they do. They want to become animals without bodies, without corporeality, i.e., manimals.

The nihilistic manimal....a simple animal without a body to limit it or define it, living in intangible theoretical environments of the mind.
Mental animal...manimal.

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Nihilism is the mind acting no behalf of the body's impulse to survive.
The brain evolved to multiply the probability of survival, and procreation is a form of overcoming mortality, so it becomes an additional factor in the mind's evaluations.
Nihilism is a defensive reaction to what threatens its survival, and tis well-being. It places survival about all other considerations, above integrity, honesty, clarity etc. It prefers to not see than to see and by seeing perish.
It conceals itself by concealing the world it is becoming aware of; it buries reality with semiotics, with artifices/abstractions, with technologies, with art, to make it bearable. It covers its own body with them, e.g., clothes, make-up, trained behaviour, pretences, techniques and technologies. It loses itself in its own words.



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Mencken, H.L. wrote:
I have spoken hitherto of the possibility that democracy may be a self-limiting disease, like measles. It is, perhaps, something more: it is self-devouring. One cannot observe it objectively without being impressed by its curious distrust of itself—its apparently ineradicable tendency to abandon its whole philosophy at the first sign of strain.
I need not point to what happens invariably in democratic states when the national safety is menaced. All the great tribunes of democracy, on such occasions, convert themselves, by a process as simple as taking a deep breath, into despots of an almost fabulous ferocity.
Ideologies and spiritualities that contradict or deny reality any relevance cannot but lie at the first sign of trouble, intuitively know that they must abandon their own principles to survive in a world these principles are detached from.

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Lincoln, Roosevelt and Wilson come instantly to mind: Jackson and Cleveland are in the background, waiting to be recalled. Nor is this process confined to times of alarm and terror: it is going on day in and day out. Democracy always seems bent upon killing the thing it theoretically loves. I have rehearsed some of its operations against liberty, the very cornerstone of its political metaphysic. It not only wars upon the thing itself; it even wars upon mere academic advocacy of it.
I offer the spectacle of Americans jailed for reading the Bill of Rights as perhaps the most gaudily humorous ever witnessed in the modern world. Try to imagine monarchy jailing subjects for maintaining the divine right of Kings! Or Christianity damning a believer for arguing that Jesus Christ was the Son of God! This last, perhaps, has been done: anything is possible in that direction. But under democracy the remotest and most fantastic possibility is a common place of every day. All the axioms resolve themselves into thundering paradoxes, many amounting to downright contradictions in terms. The mob is competent to rule the rest of us—but it must be rigorously policed itself. There is a government, not of men, but of laws—but men are set upon benches to decide finally what the law is and may be. The highest function of the citizen is to serve the state—but the first assumption that meets him, when he essays to discharge it, is an assumption of his disingenuousness and dishonour. Is that assumption commonly sound? Then the farce only grows the more glorious.

As I've repeatedly noted, nihilism must lie to survive in a world it negates, on principle. It must contradict its own values and stated beliefs, to the degree that it denies or negates reality with these values and beliefs.
It cannot survive in a world it detaches from and proposes this detachment as its highest virtue.

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Nihilism is the absolute - no matter how it is named and conceptualized - that is nowhere to be found, except in human minds, and negates man's experience with the multiplicity of existence.

Nihilism is the one, totalitarian, god of Abraham, and the one all-encopassing State of Globalism.
Exclusion is certain slavery and death, because there's nowhere to escape to. It is utter surrender to fate, for the sake of evading personal responsivity.

Nihilism is the noumenon, taken literally; the absolute idea existing only in the mind, represented by words/symbols, externalizing it.

Nihilism is the oneness leaving no room for diversity other than as illusions. It is uniformity of sameness, with superficial displays of divergence.

Nihilism is what denies free-will.
Nihilism is slavery with no where to escape, as the very idea of freedom is non-existent.

Nihilism is the omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent authoritarian totalitarian entity where men cannot escape, not even in their sleep, and have no power to resist.
Nihilism is the impotence of men.

Nihilism is a comfortable jail very few want to leave. It is institutionalization.
A submission; a sacrifice, hoping for some kind of recompense. A prayer to fate.

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I've posted my views on how to survive in the coming Dark Age, populated by increasing hoards of "zombies" infected, via a "parasite" with a mental virus called "nihilism" - here: [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].

In a world with no accessible frontiers - and until frontiers become accessible, i.e., the "final frontier" - placed mankind in a [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] type scenario where man are the rats trapped in a sinking world.
The disease is not manmade, as I've noted, but a defensive reaction to emerging self-awarness, exposing man to new sources of anxiety. Semiotics, constructing defensive, and escapist ideologies - escaping into the human mind - have been taken advantage of by (((parasites))) as it is in their nature to do so, i.e., seize the opportunity, provided by weakness, to feed.

The situation is not unlike that displayed, metaphorically, in post-apocalyptic zombie films.
what is the first duty of those who remain uninfected?
To survive and to preserve what they can before all is lost - Dark Ages are periods when a lot of knowledge and understanding is buried and forgotten, beneath superstitions, degeneracy, hedonism, e.g., primal, primitive, the manimal masses.
The same strategies one would employ to survive in a world infested with gluttonous, murderous, disease infested "humans" - in name only, because they are gradually becoming sub-human, dumbing-down, becoming manimals.
[see zombification in nature] - are the strategies one must employ to survive in this coming Dark Age.
In time a new "reality" will take the place of the one dying, i.e., Americanism - good riddance - with its own semiologies, ethical standards, values, ideals, etc. which will have little in common with those ancient Hellenic, Roman values and ethics.
When I speak of "Dark Ages" I means like the last one. Empires existed but the core of Indo-European values was buried in books and forgotten by all, but a few, only to be rediscovered in Afro-Asiatic libraries, to trigger the Renaissance, which was not in tune with ancient-Hellenic values.
Though a new empire will be built no the ashes of the one currently being burned down in its urban streets, it will not be equal to what has already been lost - but not entirely forgotten.
This is an opportunity to find those ambers, buried in the soot, and under centuries of Americanized faecal matter to be rekindled and explode when it comes in contact with the methane centuries of garbage is producing.


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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 5 EmptySun Jan 10, 2021 1:07 pm

The basic premise of low-IQ nihilists is that underneath it all there's a benevolent force directing everything towards a positive outcome.
The opposite is the belief that there's a evil force doing the same....usually described as "indifferent", and yet intentional.
This either/or binary, is the foundation of Nihilistic dogmas and ideologies - especially Messianic ones.
I've defined both as "positive" and "pure" nihilism.
Both are empowered by the invincible power of nil - even the "positive" variant, ironically.
Another way of describing this "power of nil" is as the "absent absolute"...a presumption of a non-existent projection in the form of an idea/ideal, represent by vacuous semiotics - language, symbols/words, void of content and of external referents.

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As unfit mutations compound and are protected Dutton's "spiteful mutants" increase and become majorities. They overwhelm quality with their quantities - hordes of desperate degenerates frenzied with a desire to escape their own inherited feebleness and the constant reminder through their own bodies, i.e., their own forms, performance, appearance.
They despise the body because it represents a past made continuously present....awaiting to be revealed as appearance.
They want to bury it; conceal it, forget it - lethe. They want to die without dying - zombification.
They want their "spirit" - defined as mind - to live and their body to perish.
Mind acquires a mystical essence - it is no longer of the brain, of the body, but something cosmic, absolute.

The focus on "spiteful mutants" also ignores the fact that their "qualitative" equivalent are also "mutants" themselves and that much of the repression applied to the former also ends up repressing the latter. When both extremes are repressed, you get an overabundance of what he calls "midwits" which ultimately favor the spiteful mutants and result in an overall entropic decline of quality.

I am astounded that Dutton has not realized this, and still effectively conflates midwits with geniuses or heroes, thinking his Church was created and maintained by the latter instead of the former despite the midwits qualities better fitting the role of a priest or medieval king than any hero or genius.

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He sees the solution in promoting religion to calm and control the midwit masses.
I think I once heard him say that her isn't a believer in god...

Religion in metaphysics for morons, and for mediocre minds.
A simple way of understanding complexities using allegories and metaphors, which are taken literally by the mediocre midwit mind.
The mediocre midwit needs certainty and finality, to discipline himself, or to focus on what he can understand, like the mundane and everyday. Like women, they just needs some allegory to then ignore as they focus on what they are effective, and truly interested in, the social, the everyday, e.g., relationships, children, love, socializing, gossip, etc.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism Nihilism - Page 5 EmptyFri Jan 15, 2021 3:56 pm

An overview

1- Self-Cosnciuosness evolves - emerges out of consciousness, just as consciousness emerged, evolved, out of unconscious space/time, creating a separation - porous and imperfect as it may be - in the form of a membrane, skin, dividing organism from non-organism - gradually diving 'I' from 'other'.

2- This separation creates antagonism between emerging, self-organizing, organism and interactive, fluctuating, space/time, requiring constant effort - agon; effort that drains the organism necessitating feeding to replenish constantly draining energies. If this process is successful for a sufficient length of space/time the possibility of procreation increases - first via division (mitosis), later evolving into a cooperative method necessitating two distinct reproductive types, e.g., male/female - heterosexual reproduction via synthesis, combining DNA, or genetic memories stored as nucleotides or biological sequences.
The separation of the lucid part of consciousness, i.e., ego, from the non-lucid part, i.e., self, is called self-cosnciuosness, viz,. consciousness of being conscious. This separation creates a new source of agon when the organism begins to perceive itself, and another, from a third party perspective - this is called objectivity.
Objectivity is an advancement of subjectivity - a sophistication of consciousness.

3- Self-cosnciuosness establishes a distance between the emerging mind from body - the noetic from the phenomenal, the abstraction from a presence, where it interprets a presence as appearance, e.g., sensually interpreting what is other than itself. even its own body is rediscovered as an external alien phenomenon, creating a mind/body rift where the lucid part of consciousness - ego, mind - identifies with itself and not with its own body's presence - source of the emergent mind.      

4- This stage gradually develops a linguistic connection to what it is separating from. Ego developing a neurological symbolism reaffirming its connections with that which it is gradually separating from, i.e., noumenon connecting to phenomena via semiotics.

5- This emerging self-cosnciuosness exposing the lucid mind - ego - to a new source of anxiety, insecurity, eventually develops a defensive response using semiotics, i.e., language, by inverting the relationship of noumenon and phenomenon, or the representation relative to the represented.
An inversion of the sequence which is established, linguistically, as a world-view because of the protective relief it provides to the ego. The ego finds shelter in its own subjectivity, immersed in its own semiotics.
This inversion is the disease of nihilism. If you study the conventional definition of nihilism you will notice how it is a projection of abstractions that do not exist outside human minds, and the appreciation of existence, lacking said abstractions, as a "negative state" - inverting its positivity.
The brain's binary system, 1/0 projects its own absolutes into space/time and when it fails to find validation for them it declares existence a nil state, in accordance with its own binary standard.
I've explained how there are two distinct types of nihilism: pure and "positive nihilism" - a linguistic self-cosntradition which I've also explained.

6- Nihilism is therefore a psychological dis-ease - rooted in emerging self-cosnciousness, viz., anxiety, insecurity - creating a variety of formal ideologies and spiritual dogmas, such as Abrahamism, Marxism and postmodernism.
Ideologies that offer comforting, flattery and sheltering assuaging the ego's insecurities and vulnerabilities.
All these dogmas and ideologies are entirely linguistic, with minimal external references - other than in other minds or within manmade environments, viz., environments created by the externalization of human abstractions: technologies, art.  

7- From all this an additional phenomenon emerges. The nihilistic disease is not rejected, but embraced by a parasitical meme, developed within a specific genetic population, which correctly perceives in it an enhancement of its historical parasitism - it accepts what all other tribes have rejected, when and if they become aware of it - spreading it from mind to mind so as to weaken a host's natural defences.

8- Since nihilism offers a protection to a vulnerable insecure ego it finds fertile ground in the minds of the ill, the dispossessed, the lost, the desperate etc. Therefore, nihilistic dogmas and ideologies, such as Abrahamism, Marxism, postmodernism - become viral - become popular - primarily and originally among the lowly in every socioeconomic system. Christianity, for instance, spread within Rome's catacombs full of slaves and the empire's victims, and Marxism among the impoverished ghettoes of industrialization etc. essentially inverting hierarchies and perceptions. What was humble became proud; what was weak became strong; what was impoverished became wealthy; what was sick became healthy; what was powerless became powerful; what was ignorant became omniscient; what was impotent became omnipotent - see Orwell newspeak.

9- We can reduce nihilism to a psychological defensive reaction to a threatening existence, i.e., an indifferent cosmos, using semiotics as a protective shield and as a creative way of fabricating a noetic cocoon - which can be externalized artistically and technologically.
Here my definition of art and technology is necessary.  


Of course a lot more detail can be added to each and every category, and this forum has a some information scattered in threads to fill in the remaining blanks, further qualifying and explaining each section in depth.
It is not a perfect theory because its foundational concept is the absence of absolutes, defined as immutable, indivisible, complete, whole, singularities. It only offers a superior analysis that can be used to explain a lot of what is going on presently, or that has occurred in the past.

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Addendum...

10- Nihilistic dogmas and ideologies must self-contradict, and self-decieve. This is because the ideology negates, denies, rejects, a world it must then survive within.
Every spiritual manifestation of nihilism must contradicts its own stated beliefs, finding clever excuses and justifications, or methods of breaking the rules; every political, i.e., secular, nihilistic ideology, cannot continue to exist if applied, unless it contradicts its own convictions, or it must remain entirely theoretical, finding excuses to explain its multiple inevitable failure to be applied or to produce the expected results.

11- Nihilistic spiritual dogmas an secular political ideologies depends on obscurantism and mysticism to define its central concepts "out of existence" - projecting them into some imaginary, alternate, reality, where they exist as pure and idealized objectives - Platonic realm where their absolute perfection is never soiled or challenged by reality, i.e., the experienced world.

12- Detaching words/symbols from tangible, experienced, references, is essential for the contraction and preservation of nihilistic ideas/ideals. Words acting as disconnecting medium, rather then as connecting mediums, between mind and body/physicality/tangible existence, i.e., detaching noumena from phenomena, or the idea/ideal from the real.
Words referring to and representing concepts such as "human/humanity," "morality," "love/hate," "logos," "male/female," "sex," "freedom," "will," "god," etc. are detached from their reeal-world references and left in a state of obscure limbo, so as to then be used in any creative way imaginable to construct comforting ideologies.
Detaching redefining the role of semiotics "liberates" them from a reality that limits their conceptualization, allowing them to become fodder for the construction of seductive, i.e., pleasing, appealing, alternative realities.

13- The seductive power of nihilism is evident from its linguistic methodology [see 12], just as words are often used to sexually - erotically - seduce a potential mate, to make them a means towards an end, words become means of seduction, manipulation, and exploitation, viz., constructing brilliant possibilities that can appeal to a majority of individuals who are desperately seeking hope, and salvation from their own real-world predicaments.
Semiotics are no longer mediating connectors with an experience world, but are converted to a mediating connector to inter-subjective alternate realities, stimulating (exciting) the imagination of the desperate mind with unprecedented, and an extraordinary source of hope.
Reason and empiricism cease to be criteria for evaluating validity, and are replaced by the feminine criterion of pleasure and belonging, i.e., comforting - hedonism. Words become means of inclusion into supernatural group dynamics - herd psychology pushed to its extreme absurdity - existing in a surreal world where no predation is possible - safety is guaranteed once entry has succeeded to sacrifice integrity to the altar of survival, or need/suffering. Doubting, questioning, the ideology, once entrance has been achieved, is tantamount to a death-wish, e.g., exclusion, expulsion, means a guaranteed end. Dogma and ideology become fanatical, i.e., a matter of life or death.

14- though all nihilistic variants propose some kind of absolute state, e.g., immutable, indivisible, eternal, whole, oneness, singularity, complete, perfect, not all are equally nihilistic.
Just as there are the general variants of pure & positive nihilism there are degrees of nihilism, as each dogma expresses a psychological reaction towards an indifferent threatening world, consequently, the degree of nihilism - negation of reality by an ideology - exposes a degree of psychological distress, attracting to it those who share this psychological state: creating communities of psychotics, sharing the same level of distress and antipathy towards the experienced world - ergo, some nihilistic dogmas may entirely negate reality, via semiotics, whereas another may arbitrarily do so, the former using this selective negation to Trojan Horse its absurdities through tis rational positions, i.e., legitimizing the absurd by incorporating it with its more rational positions.

15- Because nihilist ideologies are entirely linguistic, with no external references, its concepts can only exist as abstractions, i.e., noetic, noumena, shared by multiple minds - its range of power (range of effect) is restricted by this factor, therefore it needs to proselytize and spread, gathering more followers, so as to become potent, otherwise it is impotent, given that it negates the real world and has no power within it.
Herd psychology is empowered when the herd grows. Ergo, its power to seduce and to appeal to as many minds as possible is a factor determining tis success. Reaming self-consistent is essential to its seductive appeal, since it will not reveal its self-contradictions to minds that wish to immerse themselves in its fantasy.
The power of nihilist dogmas and ideologies is entirely psychological, i.e., cognitive, mental, and like any virus that attacks the nervous system it manifests as zombification: an often pleasing detachment of the organism form tis environment. Here we also see how it can be used parasitically, exploiting a pre-existing, i.e., genetically inherited, psychological weakness.
The organic - genetic - body becomes a vehicle of the memes inorganic infection, engaging the world indirectly, via the body's mediation. Selfish-gene is usurped by a selfish-meme.

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Baudrillard, Jean wrote:
Abstraction today is no longer that of the map, the double, the mirror or the concept. Simulation is no longer that of a territory, a referential being or a substance.
It is the generation by models of a real without origin or reality; a hyperreal.
The territory no longer precedes the map, nor survives it.
Henceforth, it is the map that precedes the territory – PRECESSION OF SIMULACRUM – it is the map that engenders the territory and if we were to revive the fable today, it would be the territory whose shreds are slowly rotting across the map, whose vestiges subsist here and there, in the deserts which are no longer those of the Empire, but our own. The desert of the real itself.

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Progress = movement from mystical, spiritual, allegories towards increasingly abstract, ideological, theoretical forms.
Spirituality evolving into ideology.

Nihilistic variants also evolve from spiritual to ideological.
Abrahamism, through Marxism, into postmodernism...a process of changing semiotics: the same concepts replaced by new updated terminology [see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] for a brief overview].
An updating of packaging.
To those who follow...it is easier when semiotics are gradually detached from their worldly anchoring. The shift is not limited by an indifferent, uncertain, fluctuating world, but only by the creativity to replace one seductive product with a new and improved version.
Therefore Marxism repackages and resells Abrahamic principles, and postmoderns repackages Marxist doctrine.
This is called "progress".

I've explained how Protestantism moved closed to Judaism by abandoning what remained of Roman Hellenism in Catholicism and Orthodoxy.
I've also explained how Marxism adopted and renamed Abrahamic ethics, to eliminate the one-god restriction that prevented them from being more globally appealing, i.e., marketable on a world market.


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Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
The most fundamental premise of the original, modern, liberal theory of human nature was belief that human beings seek to preserve their own individual lives. Even today, it is still proposed that the fear of death, and the end of self-preservation, is not only natural, but a human universal. Imagine that this is so. If there is a universal human nature, does this imply that there are universal human prejudices? If there is a universal human nature, does this also imply we are universally biased against certain ‘truths’? It would mean that what we have in common is, among other things, a universal prejudice; all humans are united by a common conspiracy to preserve each one of our own individual lives.
This is really only a racist generalization; a generalization about the human race not unlike less generalized forms of racism. Yet how can one even attempt to address the theory of the fear of death objectively and rationally when in the grip of the fear of death? In particular, how can one gain perspective to criticize a theory of liberal democracy built upon the fear of death or individual self-preservation, when one is subjectively invested in the assumption of one’s individual right to live — and mastered by its limitations. How can one expect to comprehend liberalism while obediently playing by liberalism’s conventions and rules?
One cannot fully criticize liberalism while existing within the limits of this liberal horizon. The entire liberal argument begins with the postulate of individual self-preservation.
Only on this basis do liberals impose their own self-postulate upon others.
The liberal, as a political expression of a psychological type, is a mind so encased in human protective artifices that it begins to feel arrogant, and/or generous with resources it would not be able to ensure for itself without the systemic providences and guarantees. His pretentious generosity conceals a miserly spirit.

How can one begin to enter into dialogue with a mind that has sacrificed integrity to gain a survival advantage?
Surviving becomes his only goal, not truth.
Subjectivity is his safe-space, denouncing and denying the very existence of objectivity.


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