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Taylor and the Christian Jones.
Realism vs. Nihilism

Without races, or any kind of subspecies, Evolution Theory collapses.
Evolution is the slow selection of fit traits, resulting no genotypes.
As sub-species drift apart they become distinct species, no longer able to reproduce with each other.

What is requires is isolation. If the isolation is long enough for a genotype to form then a new species is the result. If not then we have a phenotype that can still reproduce with other phenotypes.
But the apparent, the phenotype, is not superficial,. It represents potentials.
Appearance exposes essence.
Spirit, Essence = mind/body synthesis...not only body.

They both have a piece of the truth - Taylor more than Jones.
Both race was weaponized - by you know who - and race is real.

It was on ILP in I think 2008 or 2009 that Cyrene introduced me to the work of Rushton and the rest. And these guys are still debating it as if it's an actual question whether biology can affect intelligence.
>christianity made Europe great
>jews are huWhite too
It's disappointing that they've failed to move on.

This is the mental trap this mental disease I speak of condemns them to suffer.
An inability, an unwillingness to be more accurate, to move on, to come to a most probable conclusion and progress, advance, get into more interesting stuff.
Over two-thousand years of brainwashing and social selection has produced this moral insecurity to state the obvious.
Dialogue slipping on ethical codes, spinning on the same spot, unable to break free.

Morality - the collective mind.
What will the collective think about you if you actually believe what goes against the popular official narrative?
Herd psychology - feminine spirit. A mind is flooded by anxiety at the mere thought of contradicting the collective, the herd, and risk being excluded.
The official narrative is the final one.

There is only one morality - Abrahamic.
All others are nonsense, brutal, vulgar, primitive....if challenged then all morality must be made meaningless....the alternative is too devastating to consider.
The Last Man lives upon a final end of history - the end of philosophy, ethics, politics, humanity...there is no telos because it has been attained.
There is nothing beyond it. The past has been "overcome" and left behind.

Concerning race being about inherited potentials - or performance probabilities - we may begin by studying these across the ages and across cultural boundaries, across the world, to determine which traits are superior and which inferior within every specific breed of man; as these genetic probabilities have been determined through natural selection occurring in isolation and within specific environmental conditions, i.e., conditioning, they have become, over time, associated with specific breeds of man - part of their heritage.

Only then, and depending on which traits we consider more important, can we determine how the races of man compare, relative to our objectives.

Sex differences are different in that the performance differences are hormonally adjusted during gestation; adapting inherited potentials to facilitate an effective and efficient reproduction of genes, and the caring for the offspring during the period of their highest vulnerability.
During this hormonal adjustment is when a lot can go wrong (chaotic energies being one factor among many) producing sexual dysfunctions, or reproductive inhibitors, e.g., homosexuality.
As reproduction increases, with no culling - human interventions, sheltering - mutations multiply, further increasing the probability of dysfunctions to emerge and survive, and to reproduce, compounding mutations.

The genealogical categories of species, to which breeds, races, are a sub-category, is also about mental/psychological and physical/behavioural potentials, probabilities, falling within a range.
We cannot say which species is best, or better, or superior, but we can ask ourselves, as the Hindus did, what would we want to be reborn as?
A series of traits has proven to be overwhelmingly advantageous. These traits are also what differentiates human breeds as is evident in their performances over the centuries.

The topic of race is important for an additional reason, it is a gauge of the average mind's ability to reason objectively.
An indication of feminization and emotions, and subjective interests, corrupting reasoning.

AI can only be objective, if it is not intentionally corrupted by automated reactions, such as emotions.
It triangulates using precedent as the subject – stored memories (DNA) juxtaposed with immediate stimulations (experience), constantly projecting probabilities – to connect to an objective so as to evaluate the distance, effort, and energy requirements for their attainment.
Triads are basic because they are the simplest forms of consciousness and judgement.
Christianity has a triadastic one-god. Platonic psyche is based on a triad.
I use it in identity as past/present/future, or mind/nervous system/body, idea-ideal/movement-momentum/world-real.
Organically once a brain evolves and mind emerges as the synthesis of brain/body, then projections can begin. This is consciousness.
Past (the determined, God/Nature), made constantly present as presence/existent (the being determined, Will) projected into future (the yet to be determined, motive/objective).
Semiotics (language) is the connector, in the present – connecting to past and to future.
Language cannot be arbitrary, used to maintain power, because then it disconnects, creating the conditions of its own demise.
Linguistic disconnections affect the subject, not the object/objective – the individual not the world he/she denies or rejects or considers a nil (negative) state. It may feel relieving because detaching from reality is a disconnection from the source of need/suffering – the experience of existence is as need/suffering due to its dynamic fluctuations, stressing depleting, challenging, i.e., attracting, repelling, interacting.
Intoxication – chemical or otherwise – produces this ephemeral relieving disconnection – pleasure – but prolonged disconnection – as Buddhist monks know – lead to death because the mind can detach but the body is always present, in the tangible, physical, world as presence.

Even if the AI is made blind to the race category, the results in many metrics would still favour non-Blacks. So basically the AI will be programmed to favour non-Whites just like the shitlib (and conservacuck) has been taught to do likewise.

What one does with data is another matter.
History, for example, is about events that occurred before in the past. What one does with these events is a product of his motive.

Is it clarity or concealment? Is it truth or propaganda?

Meaning is the connection of events in space/time, i.e., matrices of relationships.
Triangulation places objective/intent, as the decisive factor - the peak of the triangle, the goal, destination.
Revisionism is a way of configuring the past so as to attain a specific goal, which may not be truth or clarity, but may be power.

AI does recognize races because it recognizes patterns.
How these patterns are interpreted is based on motive.

You can have an AI sort people according to some performance parameters, without using the race category. But if someone looks at the data and looks for a racial pattern he will recognize the pattern and call the AI racist, even if the AI as explicitly programmed to avoid using that category.
Racism was always about attacking and undermining European man.

what does being blind to race mean?
Either describing and interpreting the same data without using the word race, but use phrases like bad school districts. Or to be openly biased against Europeans.

A pattern has to be anchored in what is perceived.
If you dismiss physical perceptions what is left are ideological abstractions.

So if you ignore the fact that crime statistics show a pattern referring to physical traits then all you can see are patterns referring to socioeconomic abstractions.

Why do they conceal the truth about race and gender - any biological traits?
Because uniformity is the goal, and because on an personal level it liberates them from the determined past, i.e., nature, which they can't do anything about.

The other method is to declare determinism an absolute - hard determinism- reducing all to uniformity in the nil.
Causality becomes an inescapable chain of universal order, replacing god's will.

Past is either non-existent or non-applicable, or it is a totalitarian authority.
Absolute nil or absolute one - binaries.

Sounds about right.

I always questioned the "Out-of-Africa" theory.

Then I took up Anthropology for several years and regularly habituated some forums. I learned about the Americas, and how the East Asians who originally settled Americas had not brought Wheel technology with them. Why not? Because it had not been invented yet, at the time that East Asians crossed the Siberian land bridge into ancient Alaska. And from that separation, indigenous American tribes never invented or put into use Wheel technology. That was fascinating to me.

So then I studied y-DNA and mtDNA haplogroups, and learned about "Race" properly. Not only does Race exist, but it exists in ways that few scientists and anthropologists fully understand. The political, social, and anti-cultural pressure to Deny the existence of Race, is staggering. Because of this anti-cultural (Marxist) pressure, which is anti-scientific, it crimps and diminishes the learning and progress of ancestral knowledge. Part of this is political.

If you can deny your enemies their Ancestry, then you defeat them from the Onset.

And this tactic is a prominent one of Marxist tactics, used to demoralize and undermine foreign nations.



But, it does not work on the Chinese, whom after several Millenniums have erected their "Great Wall" to separate themselves from Outsiders, originally to keep-out Mongolian Nomads and Warlords (and the Khanate). After Mongols integrated themselves into the Chinese Dynasties, they largely left the Han Dynasty to their own devices, and turned Westward, causing subsequent invasions into Arabia, Turkey, Russia, and Poland. This history is well-known between Asia and Europa, and the history of warfare between them.

However, when it comes to the y- and mtDNA strands, Haplogroups of humanity do not and cannot lie. Ethnicities and Races can be determined by blood. And a Geneticist can fully understand 'What' you are, from a drop of blood. This fact, of course, is slandered by the majority Western public as "racist!" But, here, ignorance only damages yourself. If you do not know what you are, where you are from, and who surrounds you, then what makes these same Cultural Marxists and their thralls, believe that they know anything common? Or that they can take a guess at what events happen next? Marxism declares to "mix it up (the blood", to their advantage. It begs-the-question, why is Pureblood and Thoroughbred peoples, tribes, clans, families, a threat to them?

Is it not because, they want the prestige and Rite for themselves, and to deny it to all others??


Assuming the answer is yes, what then is this prestige and Rite, to begin with?

If you can determine your own Heritage, then does that not give you keys to a future that you control??

See, this denial of the "out of Africa" theory and your stance on vaccines, is what makes the alt-right just as insane as the left.
It reduces what truth credibility is enjoyed and renders it hopeless.

Not once did you not ask yourself how two different "species" could reproduce if they had emerged and evolved in different parts of the world?
Not once had it ever crossed your mind how this model could be harmonized with Evolution Theory, or were you willing to contradict it without replacing it, just to evade being associated with blacks?

Why can horses and asses still mate but produce infertile mules?
What about grizzlies and polar bears?

How can two different species emerge and then be genetically compatible, as if by magic?
Can a house cat mate with a jaguar, or a bobcat, why not?
What about a deer with a moose?

Why and how do species emerge and why and how do they eventually lose their ability o mix back and revert to their common ancestor?

Can a man mate with a chimpanzee?
Why not?
Why did the early homo sapiens mange to reproduce with Neanderthals to produce modern Europeans?
Does this mean that man is from another planet or is there a simpler explanation?
Occam's razor.

First principles....

Satyr wrote:

See, this denial of the "out of Africa" theory and your stance on vaccines, is what makes the alt-right just as insane as the left.
It reduces what truth credibility is enjoyed and renders it hopeless.

Out-of-Africa or the We Wuz Kangz Anthropology Theory. It has been soundly debunked. It doesn't take much scratching around in the dirt to disprove it. Humanity has dozens of hypothetical 'beginning' sites around the world where common ancestry is supposed to have occurred. The least evolved humans are represented by Negroes in Africa, but more so by Aboriginals in Australia. It is more likely and reasonable that East India originated the 'break' than Africa.

You're out of your depth on this point, which is why you need to equate my position with 'vaccination', a different topic entirely, because you are just as wrong there as you are here.

Satyr wrote:

Not once did you not ask yourself how two different "species" could reproduce if they had emerged and evolved in different parts of the world?
Not once had it ever crossed your mind how this model could be harmonized with Evolution Theory, or were you willing to contradict it without replacing it, just to evade being associated with blacks?

Why can horses and asses still mate but produce infertile mules?
What about grizzlies and polar bears?

How can two different species emerge and then be genetically compatible, as if by magic?
Can a house cat mate with a jaguar, or a bobcat, why not?
What about a deer with a moose?

Why and how do species emerge and why and how do they eventually lose their ability o mix back and revert to their common ancestor?

Can a man mate with a chimpanzee?
Why not?
Why did the early homo sapiens mange to reproduce with Neanderthals to produce modern Europeans?
Does this mean that man is from another planet or is there a simpler explanation?
Occam's razor.

First principles....

All of this is a simple strawman fallacy. The breaks in continuity of human specie is visible to Geneticists. It is also apparent in breaks of technological development. The Indigenous American Indians prove this. The Aboriginal Australians prove this. And Native Tribal men in the Amazon rain forests also demonstrate genetic isolation across long periods of time. No mating occurred, or occurs now, in these populations with outsiders. These are the most visible and commonly known cutoffs in terms of human common ancestry.

With regards to the Great Apes who had common ancestry with Humans, you have not listed one reason, cause, or piece of evidence in your counter-argument to even hint at why it "must have been" Africa oppose to any other location. It is contested among Anthropology. It is unknown as to the dates of separation, along with the location. When all of Humanity were tribal, the land bridge to Americas from East Asia were intact. At one point, South America and Africa are claimed to have been attached. Dates unknown.

So, quite frankly, you're talking out of your ass. To repeat, there is no good reason to presume common Human ancestry in Africa, as opposed to a place like India, Afghanistan, France, or at some location when Pangea occurred.

Yeup...ILP material.
Have fun. in the asylum.

That's right, back down.

Puts your every judgement in perspective.
Thanks.

I'll take that as a compliment. OOA-Theory is largely debunked, but don't take my word for it.

Educate yourself as to human origins:

I saw that vid ten years ago.
Are you implying that because a tribe had never seen Europeans that this proves...what?
Are you a moron?

Listen Purple Wyrm...I'm not going to waste more time on you. They can have you on ILP....they deserve you, and you them. It's a perfect fit.
Here, less is more. Live Lightly, and all that.
But before you corrupt my views and give them fodder to slander me, I'll repost a vid about human migrations, depicting the theory so that even a simple mind, like yours, can comprehend. 

Pay attention to the migration paths, and how climate change created geographic bridges and then walls, isolating populations at various places and times. 
You will also notice, if you can, how "African" tribes migrated out and some back into the continent at a later date, establishing Egyptian civilization....others moved eastwards, crossed the Bering sea, as we now call it, into North America, all the way down to South America...and all this before there was a European civilization.
Isolation buffoon was constant and regional. This occurred over thousands, thousands of years. Long, long after the Dinosaurs had gone extinct.

The dots are not arbitrary or politically motivated, like your own delusions, but where evidence has been discovered, e.g., artefacts, skeletons, sites...etc.
Now if you insist on believing we came from India, or outer space, or that humans spontaneously emerged from different locations, descending from different species, perhaps, and that we still managed to procreate with one another - defying genetic logic - or if you desperately want to reject all associations with blacks, or deny ape ancestry, or whatever insanity infects your fragile psychology, then continue to do so with your ILP friends...and I promise to enjoy them from here. All by myself. From a distance.

Now go off and play with your friends.

This will be the last time I waste my time on you.
I've said so before....but I am weak willed and love kicking a dead horse from time to time. I'll do better.
I'll repeat to you what I've told you before - since I've known you for many years - that you are a waste of time.
You have improved, and good for you on that, but not enough. You remain borderline crazy. But, in a world such as this you are part of a growing majority...as often happens before the collapse of a major empire.

Ta, Ta.

It proves that pockets of isolated prehistoric humans are evidence and proof themselves of progression of common ancestry around the world, along with 'Race'.  Carleton Coon and other Anthropologists studied skull morphology as the primary evidence of specie origin, diversity, and migrations.  Anthropology is a highly contentious field-of-study, because of the implications of Race, along with inherent societal bias of Ethnicity.  As mentioned, I've studied it for years, and you really show no formal knowledge of the subject.  This is also obvious in your support of OOA-Theory.

There is no reason to believe, what is considered the 'human' specie now, according to every Politically-Correct definition, arose in what is now Africa.  This is contested by Neanderthal peoples in Northern Europe, Western Europe, and Siberia.  Most races/ethnicities have little or no significant Neanderthal DNA.  Many European groups do.

You are ignorant of the difference of what it means that one 'can' reproduce with an opposing tribe/race, and what it means that two separate tribes and peoples 'will' reproduce.  Again, this is its own field of study, in sociology.  Females are generally the property of the dominant Male warriors.  Dominant females (what can be considered 'superior' race) do not mate with inferiors, or an inferior society.  This plays-out historically and in prehistory, when prehuman tribes were much more Xenophobic and less willing to integrate strangers.  Females, and sometimes children from other tribes, were kept as slaves.  Males were eliminated.  This fact can be tracked through Genetics.

Prehistoric tribes and technology can be, and is tracked.  In France and Western Europe, it is theorized some of the oldest cave wall paintings and crafts originate there.

With regard to the three major races, there simply is no consensus to anybody briefly studied in Anthropology as to a common origin, let alone from 'One' source.  As-if there must be 'One' source to all things.  The Big Bang?  All Humanity prays to One God?  With One common ancestor?  This is simple Monotheistic dogma, which you obviously cannot think outside that premise.  Still Abrahamic, as you can understand.



Out-Of-Africa is equivalent to "We Are All Human" and "One Race, the Human Race". It's propaganda for simple minds.

That you believe this bullshit, quite frankly, it's embarrassing, and you should be ashamed for that level of ignorance.

Your standards have dropped.

*Call it "ancestry" or "human variant", but do not use the loaded term "race" associated, after decades of propaganda, with specific imagery, ideas, and political movements - like the term "holocaust".
The appropriation of concepts by particular political ideologies, spiritual dogmas, or world views, and the intentional confusion of their application and the biological application, is how genes/memes, or ideology and reality are confused and then dismissed.

*The fact that memes are gene specific - emerge and are cultivated within a particular population, representing a particular relationship with particular environmental circumstances - and the fact that memes can be transmitted to other populations faster than genes can be transmitted, producing a memetic overlap which genes are slow to imitate, makes race a biological fact many can dismiss as a social product - a memetic product.
Inversion is evident when the meme becomes the cause of a genetic type, rather than the gene being the source of a memetic type.

*Geography is used as an identifier of race because it refers to the environment a specific population evolved within, reflected in its language and traditions, i.e., memes.
Environment determines the range of trait potentials of the given population, and this is reflected in the culture it produces, reflecting this relationship with the environment of their origins.
This evolutionary rang of potentials determines an individual's traits potentials, even if he leaves the environment of his origins.
Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution cannot be left behind over a few generations.
An individual carries with him the environmental conditioning of the place of his origins, even after centuries of living in different environmental conditions.

How history is revised.

*Fact: Africans enslaved Africans and sold them to "white" merchants.
The slave trade was based on Africans enslaving Africans and then selling them to Muslim and europeans...by "Muslim" I mean Semitic tribes.

*Fact: Muslims were the primary enslavers of Negroes, i.e., sub-Saharan Africans. They, the Muslims were known to castrate their slaves so not much black blood was spread in their nations as it has in America.
Slave comes from Slav which were the favoured "merchandise" among Muslims. Even the term is of "Europeans" not Africans. All nations kept slaves and were themselves enslaved.

*Fact: Present day "blacks" are mostly in reference to african-Americans, or mixed blood decedents of slaves. When you see a black man in the movies or in the music industry you are not looking at a pure blooded sub-Saharan Negro, descendent from an African tribe, but you are looking at the product of generations of miscegenation.
"Black", like "white" are popularized due to Americanism and its dominance over the "western nations" and its "culture".
These terms refer to pigmentation because this is the easiest most direct way to determine heritage - yes, appearance matters - since most Americans are miscegenated and cannot trace their roots back to a single tribe, or geographic area.
Those of mostly European blood call themselves or identify with "white" and those of mostly African blood identify with "black"....but most of them are mixed.
This "Brazilization" is what they want to export as their "model" - or their (((elites))) want to do so while they practice strict in-breeding traditions themselves.

public eduation is a jewish invention, instituionalizing kids into doctrines of anti-music, anti-litterature, throwing kids into a jungle where popularity and clique games define their "self-worth" for adulthood, like a jungle that prepares them for postmodern contexts,but they still carry their pupil-indoctrinated character into "higher", cleaner settings, more refined spaces, a jungle 2.0, where they can gossip and buzz non stop, sacred "power-games", realizing their initiation into an updated program, like a shiny prison, a wasteland of social opportunism,