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There is no free-will in a perfectly ordered universe.
The individual is reduced to a spectator of his own existence, coming to terms with choices already determined.
Reminds me of the christian infinite sinfulness, forcing guilt upon the 'sinner' who is made by a god that then holds him accountable for not choosing what he made him choose.

The unforeseeable is what makes the determined past, relevant in the present.
It is this past being challenged, continuously.

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It is chaos, the concept of the unforeseeable, that mystifies and gives value to order.
It is chaos that makes order divine, and establishes the dualism essential to the psychology of good & bad.
It is also chaos that makes the gradations of order possible - higher and lower.

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When people speak of depth they are speaking of the depths of love they want to drown in.
But I've known all kinds of depths, including that one, because I've been down low, and have risen, and then went down once more.

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The miser has reservations, based on his experiences. He knows that…
What does not kill you can break you; bend you over, into yourself; head closer to your genitals, and your feet, and damn you to a life of a beggar, a liar, a thief hoping for salvation in death.

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AutSider wrote:
RomeoGuy wrote:
The human world exists, the natural world exist, but for every species there is a different "world" (perspectives)

Well, from my perspective, the above means the same as:

RomeGuy wrote:
Split my head open with an axe, please

So I hope you don't mind when I proceed to act upon my perspective. Not that you'd have the time to. It'd be over very soon.

See, cowardly escapes into subjectivity can be dealt with very easily... just force it to endure the real-life consequences of its positions.

Avicenna wrote:
Anyone who denies the law of non-contradiction should be beaten and burned until he admits that to be beaten is not the same as not to be beaten, and to be burned is not the same as not to be burned.

It's easy when it's all words.

I am faster than a cheetah.

I'm stronger than a gorilla.

I can rip a lion apart with my bare hands.

World = perspective.

Black = white.

See?

It's easy.

Applying any of that in reality, though... another matter.

It is supposed to be deep and unexpected, worthy of fainting, that someone would challenge a rational/'objective' position of egalitarianism. Us 'objectivists', we're supposed to be shocked, horrified! Horrified that someone would propose that the egalitarian notion associated with Enlightenment Christian theology is thusly negated by their metaphysical subjectivity, rather than ontological. See, to them, everyone is equal except that people are evil who made things unequal at the present moment. Order, civilization, is 'evil'. This is the anachronistic idea of post-WW2 thinking, where Hitler profaned and supposedly betrayed all of hitherto civilization, defaming it for all time unless it is to be used as a means for the empowerment of the powerless and, in general, Communist theory.
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Whenever you hear words like 'deep', 'esoteric', 'soul', 'spirit', uttered by a modern, chances are he's looking for more than pragmatism. He's looking for emotion, feeling, the magical, mystical to preserve the possibility of the concepts he cannot live without.

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It's the same psychology, needing the same comforting, using different symbols/words, and metaphors.

As an example...the word spirit is common across the nihilistic spectrum....from Abrahamism to Humanism.
It is the equalizer.
It's what they can turn to to imply a depth, where the lowest-common-denominator is shared by all.
If it's not 'love' then it's 'value' and if its not 'value' then its 'power'.
It's not the word/symbol but how you use it - how you apply it, what you insinuate with it.
If it's not God, then it's the State or Society, or something more abstract like One, or Order, or Whole.
The symbol/word is a teaser...a tickler, stimulating your nervous system until you release your deepest anxieties.
You become a participant in your own manipulation.  

They need immortality to make their sacrifice in reason worth it, and to justify their fate - what they cannot overcome.  
They need 'depth' to make all art equal, because it has hidden meanings, or is inspiring and profound to someone.
Because all ought to be artists.
If you cannot see it, then you are crass, unsophisticated, shallow, or you simply do not get it.
Their meanings are hidden, occult, and very private, personal, subjective.

This kind of trickery is grade school psychology, and feminine peer pressuring manipulation.

How much fArt has been sold to imbeciles, at a high price, using these methods?
The fArtist implies there is depth in his work - value, only the few can see...the special.
He usually hires an expert to do it for him.
If you cannot, then there's something wrong with you.
It's not that it's crap, but you cannot appreciate it.
Suckers buy into that kind of marketing all the time.

The audience spills its psychosis into the work, and sees it reflected back, as if it was intentional.
All the fArtist does it make the work so ambiguous that every meaning can be accommodated - making him popular.
His fArt is so bad that its surreal, unreal, metaphorical, so that everyone can see whatever they want in it - see themselves.

This type of fArt is about psychology, not world, or reality, or philosophy.

With no objective standard then it all becomes a matter of psychological manipulation, using human needs, desires, innate human need to belong to a group, to be appreciated, to achieve status within it, to find a mate worthy of his ideals, to not be excluded, to be loved and valued.
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As with everything Nihilistic, it is reversed.

Where a rational man, a man connected to nature....all is non-existent, until proven otherwise; all is untrue until evidence is offered to the contrary,; all is impossible until proven to be possible and then probable....the nihilist begins from the equalizing nil: all is possible, all exists, all is real, until proven otherwise.

The difference between Bottom<>Up & Top<>Down thinking.
The difference between realism and idealism....subjectivity and objectivity....pagan and abrahamic...the man who wants to know, and the man who wants to remain blissfully ignorant.

The pagan realist begins with the real and builds upward towards the idea(l).
The abrahamic idealism of nihilism begins with the idea(l) and tries to build, to connect, to the real, to the world - backward thinking pretending to be progressive.

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What Aryan could fully experience the sublimation of shame into pride as experienced by a Jew before the wailing wall, bobbing his head submissively to his god's authority?
What westerner could ever truly relate, on a visceral level, to the self-abnegation of the Buddhist monk, giving his self to the unknown?
What barbarian could ever comprehend the masculine joy of Hellenic, Dorian, defeat?


Will we not all face a final defeat?

The dance that leaps above the earth, wanting to escape before falling with a gracious submission to the inevitable.
We may visit strange lands we have no historical connection with, and relate, and imitate and feel a connection...but we can never be them.
You cannot visit Hellas, in Athens and Sparta, and become a Hellene....even in its present decrepit state, infected by Judaic pride through shamefulness.
The Greek approach is more masculine.
Melancholic joy in an inevitable defeat.
To dance at your own funeral.

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If asked: "What do you prefer, a life of comfortable numbness in uniformity, or a lifetime of suffering as a distinctiveness", the pagan will always reply...."More suffering".

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Hypersensitivity to symbols/words, to metaphorical actions, exposes an overemphasis on noetic constructs, with a variable evaluation of actions.
Art, as representation, is inflated to be equal to what is represented.
On this level one can go over....as one is on the edge between noumenon and phenomenon, gene and meme, entering the realm of nihilism where symbols/words exceed in meaning actions, and deeds.

Nihilism is the choice of the ideal over the real - meme over gene, theory over application.
once made the nihilist can split into pure and positive...one choosing to dismiss all as equally meaningless, equally idealistic, and the other choosing to find meaning in everything, and anything, noetic and phenomenal....distinguishing only by the amount of pleasure they provide.
Hedonism, the anthropic principle, becomes the distinguishing principle.

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Rites of Passage
Any immature boy who has found in a male, other than his father, other than of his bloodline, will remain subordinate to such a male, either because he is dead, and cannot be overcome,a s he has become idealized, or because this male is of another, alien culture, that cannot be related to, other than through idealization.
The boy becomes entrapped in his own noetic reactions upon first contact, that does not proceed to demystification,. with the direct experience of such a male and his imperfect becoming.
The same effect can be experienced when a child grows in a family where the father is dead, or that has died before the age of the child's ascension - maturation.
The father figure becomes an idealized representation of everything the child needs and/or desires.
An icon it will refer to when confronted by an imperfect, challenging, uncertain world.

The child cannot overcome its own idol, trapping it in a state of adolescence.

The natural process of overcoming, alienation and then reaffirmation of what has been idealized, cannot proceed to its end.
Child never advances above the state of childish idealization, finding in itself both the perfect ideal (meme) and the imperfect physical (gene).
It cannot differentiate and so it is held ion captivity, in perpetual adolescence.
A condition characterized by immaturity, anxiety, seeking of self in other, a love/hate relationship in relation to authority, unstable identity, dependence on external affirmation...

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Heisman on Jesus...
Meme contra Gene...

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Death of God produced nihilism
Nietzsche diagnosed this, and this was his greatest contribution.
He called himself a psychologist, a diagnostician.

What then will be the outcome of this nihilism?
A return of a binary, God, pretending to be a synthesis of one.
A new religion, adopting Abrahamism but adding to it the elements that revealed its lies.
A more abstract, mathematical religion, renaming the same comforting concepts, repackaging them in scientific jargon, and incorporating even Nietzsche into its dogma.
A reinterpretation of the same dis-ease, using more updated symbols/words, icons and idols.

Masses need superstition - simple concepts they can relate to on a physical, visceral level, as good/bad, positive/negative - on/off.
Reassuring certainty, comforting, a way of coping with the unknown....the unforeseeable, with chaos.

Christianity 2.0, in the west.

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Jewish slave morality - to attain infinite value.


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The entire work...worth listening to if you cannot read through 2000 pages of text.
I think the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] contains more, and this is a piece of it.
It's an 'insider's view' not permitted to those not of the same meme.
What we Aryans know, we cannot speak of.



Note...Heisman shot himself on the grounds of Harvard because as a Jew he had to remain true to his own identity and embrace death, the negation of life, returning to the void.

How philosophy became psychology....or psychology, wearing the mantle of spirituality, became philosophy.
Words/Symbols, describing the idea(l) free from the despised, threatening real, offering freedom, escape, salvation to the growing masses of degenerates - by-products of complex social systems and civilization.
The reason why Democracy is a compromise of the gifted to the base.

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The slave declares his value as being so high, so supernatural, that no natural master could ever own him.
He liberates himself from the idea, the possibility, of his ownership, and therefore his enslavement.
Space = possibility.
Slave morality posits that his value is beyond space/time and thus impossible to be paid from within it.
His slavishness is supernatural, and impossible... either because no existing man can pay the price of his value, or because he is already owned by a supernatural being – he belongs to it (King of kings), and so cannot be owned by any other.
But then he is master of the impossibility of himself, and therefore never mastered by himself.

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God, in the abrahamic tradition may not be a absolute contradiction, because such an extreme would be an antithesis to reality, which would be unreality, so it is a degree of inversion, or corruption of natural processes....the idea(l) out of harmony with the real: degree of dis-agreement, of dis-harmony.

Nihilism is the inversion of the real....starting from the real.
A successful inversion would begin with a successful interpretation of the real, just as a successful lie would begin with an awareness of the truth.
Lies are not anti-truth....they are corruptions of the truth.....or the fact.

An abrahamic god is not a god in the Pagan, Hellenic sense.
He is a representation of an abstraction, with varying degrees of reference to natural order - from the extreme to the less, within the nihilistic paradigm.

It is a word given to a theory, or an abstraction, or a noumenon....which is constructed, in the mind, by recombining abstractions gathered from interacting with world, and re-synthesized in ways that refer to nothing outside the mind.
This would be reflects in the usage of symbols/words, and how they are placed within a sentence.
The misapplication, and redefinition, and application in a sequence not according to experience, would indicate the mind's corrupted motive.

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Jews are not known for their physical prowess nor for their artistry. they left nothing of any value as civilization or art.
They've always appropriated form the hosts they we enslaved by, and they adapted what they took to their circumstances.
The very idea(l)s of Nihilism are not their invention.
They are a combination of Egyptian and Persian spirituality, used to accommodate their slavish psychology desiring to find pride in their shame, and power in their weakness.

The concept of a one-god can be found in Hellenic schools of philosophy, and the Persians are the ones who created the dualism of God/Satan, and the foundations of Modern moral dualism.
The Jews did not invent these concepts, they stole them.
Existing on the periphery of the cultures they tried to carve out a living from, they became scavengers - a piece here, and a piece there, recombined to gratify a slavish psychology that noetically overturned their reality.

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Hate is a submission to sympathy, just as much as love is.
Antipathy is the opposite of sympathy, and both place self in the position of other, and judge by feeling.

Empathy feels no emotion, but only understands other clearly.
Desire or nausea may follow, but not precede.

The difference is subtle but decisive.
It's the same difference as can be found in the nihilistic conception of asceticism and the pagan conception of the same.

Empathy, is a denial of self, as is asceticism....but not as a end, but as a means.

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To exist as living becoming, one must appropriate a part of space/time, to begin organizing in accordance to your will.
To sustain life one must appropriate energies similar to those lost, and to convert them to useful.

To live is to deny a part of space/time, possibility, to another.....and to take what another needs.
It is agon.....struggle....war.

Our struggle is mostly against forces we cannot conceptualize, so we construct anthropomorphic imagery to help us.
At times we are even at war with ourselves, because harmony is not absolute, and there remain repulsion even between the patterns participating in what you call 'I'.

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We float on a sea of water we cannot drink, without risking the internal balances, harmonies we need to continue....we thirst in an ocean of water we cannot process, digest. world is full of energy, but we only need it in a specific form, so we need, and we need because we lack this form.

We breath and think nothing of it, because oxygen is so abundant we consider ti infinitely abundant....but place us in a low oxygen environment and then every breathe the other takes is an attack on us.
That's when we realize what life is....a battle.

How do you teach this to a mind that has only known abundance, that has only experienced superfluity to the point where it takes it for granted - a spoiled brat?
You cannot.
You can only hope for more austere times to weed out idiocy.

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Meaning is a map of interconnections, or how patterns, phenomena, relate to one another, converted to mental maps, or noetic representations of these external to the mind relationships.....thereof language cannot be used arbitrarily because symbols/words and their application//utility, and their sequences, their placement in a sentence, in accordance to linguistic conventions, mirror these relationships.

When they are purposefully misused then the motive is either to group them into metaphors or to intentionally confuse, and mystify.
There are many reasons, many motives, but the main is to hide, from reality, or to impress others with a relieving alternative to reality, or to pretend you are saying something meaningful when you are saying something meaningless.
Meaningless would be a noetic map, of relationships that does not correspond to anything outside the mind.

Myths, if understood literally and not metaphorically, are meaningless.

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Cosmos cannot be described to be full, nor empty....positive, nor negative, good nor bad....but only in relation to an organism do these concepts make sense, because only an organism, is separating itself from the world, with a membrane/skin, attempting to construct a whole, using itself as a standard to categorize and judge everything not part of its emergent unity.

Only for an organism do the concepts of lacking and overflowing have meaning.

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A war of idea(l)s is a war using words and symbols.
A war over the hearts and minds of human beings.
Sheltering and feminization has made the majority psychotic – fragile little men-children, and eternal 'victims' – Moderns.
The majority will be on the side of the ones who offer them the most convenient, and easy escape, or the most imaginative, self-consistent alternative to dismiss the real world.
They have the numbers, as they always did... but now they are given pseudo-power in the form of ‘rights’ and a vote that can be easily manipulated by those who declare human nature as 'too complex' , or a social construct, and then use it in politics, in marketing, in medicating psychology, and in Modern fArt.
Our kind almost went extinct many times in our history: the Ice Age, when our race began, and then during the 14th century and the Black Plague that nearly wiped us out.
We are in the midst of a new plague. A mental parasite, a dis-ease of the brain…a virus of the mind – spirit.
Most of us will perish... cleansing our gene-pool from its accumulated garbage, but a few will survive.
The brightest, the strongest, the most resistant, the most ingenious and noble.
They will bring forth a new enlightenment, and the old shall become new again.

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The 'zombie apocalypse' is a metaphor describing this plague, and the masses of brain, dead, substance-less individuals with no sex, no race, no identity other than their hunger for 'blood'....a symbol for life.
Walking-dead craving a life they can no longer have. a life they lost and now fantasize, idealize as everything which is lost is to those who have lost it.

We idealize our friends, our family members after they are gone.
We forget their reality, their presence, with the good and the bad, and we only recall the 'good', or the 'bad', depending on what our relationship with them when they lived.

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Zombies live in their own 'reality'.
Not even animals, because animals exist in reality.
These creatures exist in their noetic universe - their mythological realm....where myth has replaced the real, and the real is now a shadow of the mythological - inversion.
Their flesh is in tatters, hanging onto a rotting skeleton they cover with clothes, perfumes to replace what they willingly leave behind wanting to appropriate what is not theirs because they have left themselves behind.
Zombies have no past. They are sexless, race-less....walking hunger, stumbling desire - gluttony defines them.
A hunger for what they know not - for what they've forgotten.
A piece here, and a piece there, they synthesize themselves continuously altering their superficial appearance - image.

They want to become social constructs - fashion trends, an icon to be re[placed every year with a new, updated version decided by the majority.

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What do zombies consume, trying to assimilate what is not theirs so as to heal what is rotting in them?
What do they want? What do they need?
They consume health, they feeds on blood, on life, on warmth - the organic.
They are metaphors for the noetic - the theoretical, the abstraction with no reference, no reality.
They are the memetic virus personified.
Spiritual rotting corpses, taking from others to replace what is being scraped away, dropping off of them as they stumble on.
They have to consume to continue to be animated.
When they stop they turn inward, into themselves, placing themselves in a state of waiting - viral cycles. Then movement triggers them to act - the smell of blood attracting their hunger.
They must take what they cannot make.  
It does not matter what...all that matter is that it bleeds and is warm - it is not ill.
Zombies do not discriminate. They have no dietary preferences.

Masses of them move, like swarms of insects.
They identify with their shared hunger, because they have nothing else to identify with.
The dis-ease stripped this away from them...and for many it was wilfully.
They participate in their own zombification.

The mental parasite enters the mind, using symbols/words and it gradually disconnects the frontal cortex from the parts that control movement, and consumption.
Everything else rots...leaving gaping holes that can hold nothing....requiring constant replenishing.
What is consumed passes though them, never settling, never being absorbed.
What is left is their nervous system, with no body, and no cohesive mind.
Just a nervous system. Moving. Gnashing. Licking.
Pure need.

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Zombies are mythological creatures existing in noetic realms.
The real is mostly a hindrance to them. An obstacle. A problem they want to solve. A prison.

They are trapped by their past - sum of nurturing = nature.
They are trapped by the real, by natural order....they seek a secret way, an occult realm to escape into.
Their bodies trouble them.
A conundrum - they want to leave the flesh behind, but they need it to continue their quest, so they thieve what they have rejected.

Zombies exist only as noetic constructs. They are ethereal, airy, spiritual....with no connection to the corporeal...at least none they want to retain.
They want to be immortal, feeding on mortality.
They want to destroy the real because they have rejected it and have become creatures of the unreal, the surreal.    
Zombies are ideologues. Theoretical creatures existing in mythological worlds.

The world is their metaphor for the mythological.
The phenomenon is their noumenon.
Their idea(l) is the real, and the real is their idea(l).

They have no use for cohesive language. They invent their own methods of communicating their idealism.
They cannot be contained within natural order. They exists outside of it.
They consume the living to continue their way through the unliving.
The dead are their idols. They can dig them up, and rearrange their bones to make a new version of the old.

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