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Under the spell of self-denying purification, it took decades before they could admit that man was essentially selfish, and the selflessness was a absurd fabrication.
Now, waking up to this fact, the child embraces it as it would a toy denied to it for far too long.
Selfishness is now presented as a profound insight.

Only Abrahamics could feel proud of such an awakening.
it's like a comatose patient waking up to the real world, feeling proud and a bit sad that he has left the dreamworlds behind and is now willing to begin recuperating.
Will he ever walk?
Run?
Depends on his constitution, his will and how long he was in a coma....suffering some terrible dis-ease.

I know we have to encourage cripples but when they can hardly stand and they pretend they are soaring....then you want to melt the wax that's holding together their ear-waxed wings.
It's a sinful pleasure, I know...but I'm no Christian.

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Undermining European men for centuries...

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Part of the modern mental sickness - last Man's psychosis - is not only an addiction to dualistic concepts, in their either/or absolutism, an obsession with book references, an easy deference to idols and iconic popular figures (personality worship), but a big one is their attempt to reduce language to a subjective tool of projecting personal distress,  or to reduce it to meaninglessness.

It's all part of the symptoms of degeneracy and decline, propagated by masses of brain-dead morons who believe they've overcome Abrahamism when they've simply changed the lingo.
It's part of the same mental disorder.

What do you think prophets and messiahs were?
Why do you think these fucks congregate around texts and sacred books?

"Prophets" were the idols of their time - rock stars...the Nietzsches of their age. The opening act.
"Messiahs" - magicians using language, and sleight of mouth tricks, to manipulate masses of brain-dead zombies.  
"Apostles" - groupies, clique, entourage; the magician's go-fors, his yes-men.

These things repeat. This shit has been happening for centuries.
Masses were their worshippers, audience, admirers....people of the book, by the book, for the book.
The masses of Desperate Degenerates worshipped them like.... gods.
They constantly referred and deferred to them. followed them around, hoping to be gifted a glance, a smile, a touch...anything.

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Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
What is hate? Why are so many people prejudiced against hate? It is often believed that hate is hateful and should be hated. It is often some of the very same people who also believe that intolerance is intolerable and should not be tolerated. Well then, instead of making a virtue of hypocrisy let us something different: let us actually try to understand hate.
My subject here is not all varieties of hate, but rather, the kind of hate associated with racism or xenophobia. The roots of this form of hate can be discerned in its original evolutionary function as a genetic adaptation. Racism, xenophobia, and other hate feelings may be the product of an immunological response of a kin selective social body. From this sociobiological perspective, the love mechanism of Christianity functions as an inhibitor of the sociobiological-body immune response of hate towards strangers. If xenophobic hate is like a sociobiological immune response to foreign bodies such as strangers, Christian memes dismantle the capacity for resistance to foreign social bodies by dismantling the capacity for hate. Christianity meme-viruses are comparable to the HIV virus that causes AIDS in that the religion, like HIV, specifically attacks the immune system. In attacking the immune system of a kin selective body, Christian meme-viruses spread as a ‘religion’ with effects that are comparable to AIDS. What kills the AIDS victim in the end is usually not the HIV virus itself, but rather, opportunistic diseases that exploit the reduced capacity for immunological resistance by the victim.

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Yockey, Francis Parker wrote:
During the American occupation of England, 1942–1946, several large race battles occurred, with both sides using automatic weapons, between American troops and Negro troops, both of whom were there on a mission against England and Europe. The limited utility of Culturally-parasitic groups for purposes of military conscription is shown by this example. Actually, these Negro troops were a part of an American command engaged in the destruction of Europe, but a slight social incident in a public-house was enough to cause a flaming-up of the racial hatred developed by the sharing of the same life by parasite and host. Troops from parasitic groups have little value if they are always two steps away from a race riot, and the Rationalists and Liberals discovered this by experimentation, rather than by looking at the chronicles of 5,000 years of the history of High Cultures. These Negro troops showed their willingness to destroy America as well as Europe. These examples of heightened tension between host and parasite are but the simpler form of the disease of Culture-distortion arising from parasitic activity. They differ only in degree from the resistance to Culture-parasitism. Much more serious is that form in which the parasite moves squarely into the public life of the Culture, or the Culture-nations, and directs their policy into his own channels.
Neither in America nor in South Africa has the Negro attained to this significance. Nor yet have the Japanese, Chinese, Levantine, or Indian groups in America. One group, however, has brought about a major Culture-distortion throughout the entire Western Civilization and its colonies on every continent, and that is the rear-guard in the West of the fulfilled Arabian Culture, the Church-State-Nation-People-Race of the Jew. From the Arabian Culture, which was inwardly fulfilled by about 1100 A.D., the Jew derived his world-outlook, his religion, State-form, Nation-Idea, People-feeling, and unity. From the West however he has derived his race and his Life-mission. We saw the developing of this race in the ghetto-existence during the first 800 years of our Western Culture. As Rationalism became more articulate — from 1750 on — and the Jew sensed the wider possibilities for him of the new Life-phase of the West, he began to agitate against the ghetto which he had created for himself in the early days as symbol of his unity, spiritual and physical. This race had a different ideal type from the Western, and this influenced the material which passed into the collective blood-stream of the ghetto-race. In the middle of the 20th century one sees Jews with Nordic pigmentation, but the racial purity has adapted the new material to the old racial look. To 19th century vertical racism, these phenomena were uncanny, but the 20th century has seen the primacy of the spiritual in race-formation. When it is said, therefore, that the Jew derived his race from the West, it is not meant that he drew entirely on the stock of the Western peoples to recruit his own — although this did, and does, go on to some extent — but that by serving, through its own Cultural imperative, as a totally alien mass around the Jew, the West prevented the dilution and disappearance of the Jewish unity.

Nobody hears about what happened in post-war Germany, or the curious case of Patton's death.

What is certain is what applies for genetics also applies for memetics. What changes is the 'code' - from DNA to Semiotics; from nucleotide to word.
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Same survival strategies; similar methodologies.
Gene-based types, and species, give way to home-based types and cultural species.
Natural selection becomes social selection - survival of the fittest becomes survival of the most adaptive to changing trends and social constructs.

Technology is an externalization of man's knowledge and understanding of his own biological processes - making Know Thyself a fundamental principle; similarly, memes are externalizations of man's knowledge and understanding of his evolved relationship with environment - reality.
It is abstraction - mental model - converted to art, via a medium other than the original neuro-biological.
What is externalized is an esoteric psychology, evolved over thousands of years of natural selection, and hundreds of years of social selection.

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Vidal, Gore wrote:
Big oil, big steel, big agriculture avoid the open marketplace. Big corporations fix prices among themselves and thus drive out of business the small entrepreneur. Also, in their conglomerate form, the huge corporations have begun to challenge the very legitimacy of the state.

Monotheism, goes hand-in-glove with monopolies.
Totalitarian thinking, is absolutist; its primary ideal is uniformity in oneness, or uniformity in nil.
'Fixing prices' fixes values, and values are how individuals evaluate their own lives.
Chomsky's 'Manufacturing Consent' has to be given an addendum: Manufacturing Needs & Desires. Let us call them 'wants' to differentiate them from biological needs and libidinal desires, evolved naturally.
Manufacturing 'wants' leads to the establishing of 'happiness', the 'ideal lifestyle' bought on credit – chains of debt producing a New World Order slavery. For slaves cultivated in such circumstances, the very idea of 'freedom' becomes a 'myth', cultivated through linguistic corruptions.

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Appropriation and corruption are the two basic methods of parasitism.
A parasite, masking as belonging to the host, hijacks its processes and directs them towards its own goals,contradicting the original.
Memetic-Parasites will appear as part of the host-meme, adopting its semiotics, wearing the garment of its highest ideals, reinterpreting and redefining its language, revising its icons and idols, and the narratives associated with them.
In the process the host is dominated from the inside-out, making its end a matter of time.

Zombification.

The first signs can be witnessed in language and its application.
words gradually lose meaning, by first detaching from their original. The abstractions, they refer to completely ideological; concepts with no references outside human artifices, all immersed in glorified romanticism.

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Nihilism reaches the level of paroxysm when it develops within urban environments. Self, becoming aware of itself, juxtaposing itself with other, can only compare itself with other humans. In nature the juxtaposition can be one with another species, or natural forces, but in a metropolis nature has been pushed to the periphery, limited to zoos and parks that imitate its environments – the only juxtaposition available is with humans and human contrivances.
An urbanite can be born and raised within urban setting, never coming in contact with anything remotely resembling wild nature. Nihilism is cultivated within human artifices. Man's perceptual-event-horizons, dominated by semiotics – commercial signs, road signs, everywhere he looks signs sending him an overt or covert message; environment regimented and dominated by man-made order.
Narcissism can be cultivated within these circumstances; a mind believing that everything is a sign directing a message specifically to it. Metropolitan environments surround the individual with human artifices, representing human understanding and knowledge. An individual may come to believe that the cosmos is similarly arranged – all is ordered; all is anthropocentric.
Human semiotics acquire a potency they lack outside of Mega-Metropolitan environs. Nature remains indifferent to human symbols and words, but within the Mega-Metropolis words & symbols have a feminine impact – seducing and manipulating – controlling perceptions, manufacturing images, cultivating wants through the manipulation of natural needs and desires.
Within these mega-urban setting Nihilism flourishes and parasites emerge to exploit the power of human semiotics. Within these artificial environments the sequence of genes to memes can be inverted successfully. It's not the physical, the tangible, that is given an external extension via the symbol/word, but the extension is attempted to be given a physical presence via the symbol/word.
Not physis to metaphysis but metaphysis to physis – selectively sampling and assimilating reality into its ideological parameters.
The past is erased, along with history, and then rewritten to accommodate the idea/ideal, which is proclaimed divine, i.e., God. Words become world creating magical forces, rearranging the past to produce a different type of consciousness.
Romantic idealism, i.e., naiveté, is no longer a death rattle, but a call to communion leading to salvation. Nonsensical terminology, triggering human needs & desires, recruits the fantasies – addictions and obsessions – of the target audience into its inspiring obscurantism, full of insinuating symbols and words, void of substance but full of untapped promise.
Parasites flourish because environment evolves a new survival strategy, based on nihilism and the manipulation of reason and human representations.

Urbanity is a cesspool within which new forms of vermin are socially selected, emerging to take advantage of artificial circumstances, producing psychosis unprecedented in the history of mankind.

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Yockey, Francis Parker wrote:
Culture-parasitism arises in the same way that parasitism arises in politics. A parasite is simply a life-form which lives in or on the body of another life-form at its expense. It involves thus the direction of part of the energy of the host into a direction alien to its interest. This is quite inevitable: if the energy of an organism is being spent for something other than its own development, it is being wasted. Parasitism is inevitably harmful to the host. The harm increases in proportion to the growth and spreading of the parasite. Any group which takes no part in the Culture-feeling, but which lives within the Culture-body, necessarily involves a loss to the Culture. Such groups form areas of anesthetic tissue, as it were, in the Culture body. Such a group, by standing outside the historical necessity, the Destiny of the Culture, inevitably militates against that Destiny. This phenomenon is in no way dependent on human will. The parasite is spiritually without, but physically within. The effects on the host-organism are deleterious both physically and spiritually. The first physical effect of non-participating groups within the body of a Culture is that the numbers of the Culture-population are thereby reduced. The members of the alien group take the place of individuals belonging to the Culture, who thus never come to be born. It reduces artificially the numbers of the Culture-populations by the numbers of the parasitic group. In animal and human parasitism, one of the numerous effects on the host is the loss of nourishment, and Cultural parasitism is analogous. By reducing the numbers of Culture individuals, a Culture-parasite is depriving the Cultural Idea of the only form of physical nourishment it needs — a constant supply of human material adequate to its life-task.

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Weininger, Otto wrote:
Hypochondria is diverted self-hatred and paranoia.
Weininger, being a Jew (Magian, Abrahamic), can easily diagnose a self-contradicting neurosis, because it is inherent in the very ideology of Judaism – also described as the "Jewish paradox," i.e., to attain power through an identification with powerlessness. Also producing the Messianic complex.
To be in internal conflict - memes contra genes – here reaches the level of nonsensical paradoxes that can only lead to disease – mind, self-hating, and body, self-preserving; a clash manifesting an esoteric tension that produces neurosis; nihilism and realism in conflict within the same mind/body synthesis.
Herein lies the root of Jewish linguistic “genius”. If we keep in mind that language is an expression of the nervous system, which is the synthesis of mind/body, then we see in Abrahamism – as with all nihilistic variants – an internal discomfort expressed linguistically (semiotics) as a dissonance between words and deeds, or the ideal and the real.
For Weininger and Heisman this internal dissonance resulted in suicide – too much personal intellectual integrity that could not use duplicitous methods to alleviate this esoteric turmoil.
In Christianity a new 'sin' had to be invented to prevent the "logical choice" for those who took to heart Biblical narratives; Islam deals with these internal contradictions with exoteric violence agaisnt a world it cannot consolidate within its internalized dogma - between meme and gene the meme takes precedence.

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The parasite introduces a pathogen into the host it is feeding on, and then scrambles to repair the damage when the host begins to show signs of a coming immanent demise, due, to a large part, to the parasite's infections methods of making the host vulnerable to its parasitism.
It's classic parasitical paradox....if you factor in the shift from gene-based to meme-based parasite, using language and psychosomatic strategies.

It's the old parable with the fox and the scorpion.


The meme is not concerned with the biological life-form. It is self-perpetuating.
This has to do with Dawkins' '"selfish gene"....to which we add the "selfish meme".
A self-perpetuating ideology, i.e., dogma, religion, idea/ideal, which is contrary to the organism's genetics, producing a dissonance of mind/body, where the mind is held as absolutely divine, usurping everything tangible, physical, empirical.

In Nihilism the "mind" - and its language reflects this internal schism - is held as Divine - God....and so it is the only place where "absolutes" can 'exist as vague, obscure, and self-contradicting concepts
Through this reinterpretation "logos" - language, semiotics - acquire a divine quality, usurping everything and anything empirical - physical, of nature (physis).

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When an Empire reaches the peak of its power, it slowly goes over the proverbial edge and begins sliding downward.
At first its acceleration is slow, but it begins to speed up, over time.

Like a house that is left to rot, because the owner is growing old and unable to keep up with its maintenance....a tell-tale sign is the emergence of vermin - a few cockroaches, at first coming out under the cover of darkness, then, gradually, rats are openly running around on its premises in broad daylight.

Art, especially language, acquires a conventional sue that reflects this deterioration.
The masses acquiring behaviours that were once considered debauchery are now claiming conventionality, normalcy as their excuse.
Increasingly language becomes nonsensical, referring to nothing beyond the participant's degradation - an internal lingo.
Degeneration making the unconventional conventional.

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The nature of the enemy, the essence of a disease, dictates the type of remedy to be applied.
Nihilism uses language to infect and exploit - infecting the host from the "inside out," through the mind.
Its medium is language - words/symbols.

To combat such a disease you must adjust the approach to its methodology.

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Lasch, Christopher wrote:
Most of the evils [!] discussed in this book originate in a new kind of paternalism, which has risen from the ruins of the old paternalism of kings, priests, authoritarian fathers, slave masters, and landed overlords.
Capitalism has severed the ties of personal dependence only to revive dependence under cover of bureaucratic rationality. Having overthrown feudalism and slavery and then outgrown its own personal and familial form, capitalism has evolved a new political ideology, welfare liberalism, which absolves individuals of moral responsibility and treats them as victims of social circumstance. It has evolved new modes of social control, which deal with the deviant as a patient and substitute medical rehabilitation for punishment. It has given rise to a new culture, the narcissistic culture of our time, which has translated the predatory individualism of the American Adam into a therapeutic jargon that celebrates not so much individualism as solipsism, justifying self-absorption as 'authenticity' and 'awareness'.

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The funny thing about naive idealists, or "positive nihilists" - is not their romanticism couched in poetics and prose, but their inclination, most often than not, to be positive towards the status quo.
The dominant power, the most popular ideology in their local, is their ideal - ignoring the negatives and accentuating the positives to a degree that approaches the sort of delirium one experiences in the throws of passionate love - eroticism - the lust/love of irrational pathos.
Suck selective reasoning can only be awakened, over time, by the powers of reality. Yet, most of the times, it fails, because no matter what occurs, the ideal is never questioned - the object of erotic pathos is never soiled, one's open obsessive addiction, is never doubted - it is always some other factor, leaving the subject of their passion uncorrupted.
A halo hovers over it. Pristine and clean....its imperfections covered by a cloud of obscurantism....a vague mist hiding the unclear boundaries of its perfect holistic wonder.

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A loser will always compensate by siding with the winners.
The slave with the master.
The weakling with whomever is dominant.

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Nietzsche, Friedrich wrote:
All things that live for a long time gradually become saturated with reason that their origin in nonreason thereby comes to be seemed improbable.
Man synthesizes the rational with the irrational, to associate the latter with the legitimacy of the former, decreasing its threatening effect.
Over time, he conveniently forgets the disharmonious synthesis, and cannot discern the former from the latter.

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Heisman, Mitchell wrote:
The pragmatic transition from biological evolution to technological evolution is characterized by the liberation of individual selfishness at the expense of the individual’s selfish genes.
Instead of the subordination of individuals to the propagation of their selfish genes, genes are subordinated to selfish individuals. Instead of the individual adapting so that the genes can survive, the genes adapt so that the individual can survive. Adaptation to survive is displaced by those who survive to adapt.

Nihilism is a mental disease that inverts the sequence of causality.
Rather than from genes to memes it proposes a meme to gene process; rather than from multiplicity the fabrication of singularities it proposes the construction of multiplicity from the presumption of a singularity; rather than bottom<>Up thinking it applies Top<>Down emoting; rather than adapting the ideal to the real, it wants to adapt the real to the ideal; rather than describing existence as a "positive" because it produces life, it describes the absence of life's demands upon the world, as a "negative" that defines the world; rather than noumena representing phenomena - simplifications and generalizations of the fluctuating apparent - it reverse the process where phenomena become representations of noumena.
Everything is inverted linguistically, because such minds are impotent to reverse reality to accommodate their psychosis.
Without a one-god the modern goes insane, making himself god's replacement. Where god was an idealization of man, man becomes an idealization of the Divine; man pronounced himself God when god was declared dead.
Like in the New Testament narrative, Jesus, the man-god synthesis, is reborn as god-man, or simply god that has "overcome" his manliness.
The Jews simply declared their Judaism a God, and where all other tribes had rejected them they "accepted" themselves as godly - king of all earthly kings. They had to reject the Christian attempt to make mankind Divine, because this would negate their "chosen" status.The pagan corruption of Judaism, represented by Christianity, was rejected as a threat to their self-idealizing, elitist, inversions, and to this day Christianity is their most formidable nemesis.

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Heine, Heinrich wrote:
In dark ages people are best guided by religion, as in a pitch-black night a blind man is the best guide; he knows the roads and paths better than a man who can see.
When daylight comes, however, it is foolish to use blind, old men as guides.
Which is to say, in the dark the handicapped become dominant, having experience living with their handicap.

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A nihilist is a child that refuses to grow out of the traumatic loss of what it has outgrown intellectually.
Seeking vengeful retribution, for its previous gullibility, it finds the accused in its own parents, but then, when this cuts too close to itself, it finds fault in a world that denied validity to its infantile ideas, painting, with scarlet lettering, the world as “negative,” so as to evade the shame of discovering it in itself.

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The practice of castrating slaves, as the Muslims did, reveals an attitude towards their own circumcised masculinity – a mark of submission that had to idolize the divine penis, feeling threatened by all worldly members that showed no similar mark of self-abnegation.
In modern times ex-slave members are idealized as a form of worshipping what has been cut away and lost; that which is closest to the primal becomes a reminder of the price that must be paid to be chosen.
Divine masculinity is worshipped through its lowest animalistic representations, in their most extreme manifestations, by those who have proven their worthiness through a symbolic sacrifice, e.g., symbolic self-castration, proudly bearing the sign of their emasculated shame.
This, now, becomes the mark of “overcoming,” showing worthiness by offering symbolic proof of how much the individual is willing to give-up, and suffer, for a lifetime.
The slave, and his penis, is now venerated as that which has been lost; used as a proxy of what has to be ideologically cut-out of existence.

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Let's explore the development of nihilism through the eyes of a hypothetical infant.

An infant is born and raised by its care-takers - parents or otherwise - upon which it placed complete trust.
During the first years it has no sense of self, but only of other, experiencing world through its caretakers - acting as proxies.
These caretakers teach it to believe in Santa Clause, or the Tooth Fairy,a s a way of inspiring its sense of wonder, or as a way of alleviating distress.
Child begins to literally believe in both, even though these are metaphorical concepts with no substance in the real world - ideas/ideals.
When the child reaches a certain age it gradually begins to sense that these concepts, it literally and completely believes in, because they've been cultivated by its primary care givers, who it unequivocally trusts.
It begins to doubt those it trusts. A breach begins to form.
Simultaneously it's self-awareness begins to develop - and the two are not coincidental by accidental - increasing its sense of vulnerability, and insecurity, in relation to others; a fact that increases its dependence and its need for those constructs it once believed it.
In time it awakens to the fact that Santa clause and the Tooth Fairy are fairy tales told to children by parents, to make them feel safe and cared for - belonging to a magical world where children remain innocent forever.
A breach of trust widens. Those upon who it had placed its trust have proven to be untrustworthy, for they perpetuated a literal believe in what is actually lacking in substantiality.
Trust in other begins, and is accompanied with a distrust in self, multiplied by its increasing sense of insecurity and vulnerability.
Loss of trust in one's self and its own ability to discern the truth form a lie, is a traumatic event - maturity.

To cope with this loss of trust, and of that which it took for granted as literal, the child becomes distrustful and cynical towards other.
Now there are two ways this can develop.
The child may dismiss other as altogether a source of the negative, i.e., that which contradicts, and dissolves all the magical fairy ales the child needs, or it may develop into a rejuvenated second childhood which transfers its unequivocal trust upon another.
Resentment for the parents may be too intimate to endure, so the child may transfer its negative accusation upon some amorphous, intangible, abstraction, such as God, or Universe.
Keep in mind that as this is happening the child's self-awareness is also gradually growing, ans is its sense of insecurity and vulnerability, in relation to an unknown other.

Adolescence is a period of coming to terms with one's self, and those fairy tales you believed when you were an infant.

We notice how a child may accuse the world of being "negative" because it contradicts its infantile noetic constructs, which it now needs more than ever.
Notice how it does not place the negative, in the concepts it once took for granted, but accuses the world for dispelling them or for not realizing them.
So, universal morality, a one-god, purpose to give meaning to its experience of existing - as need/suffering - are not negated but remain the "positive" which the "negative" cosmos denies substance to.
Like that child that becomes disillusioned with its parent's ideas of Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy gradually abandons the concepts, but cannot overcome the trauma, or the need for them, transfers its distrust for its parents, and for itself, to an obscure otherness, naming it 'evil' or 'negative' so as to identify it in relation to itself as the 'positive'.
The fairy tale is a supportive component of self, and its coping, so it is also 'positive' and cannot be negated, nor doubted....but only repalced.
This is what I've called the noumenon/phenomenon dissonance.....where 'good' and 'positive' is associated with the noumenon, the "abstraction", the idea, i.e., the subjective, confronted by a cold, and indifferent "objective" reality.

Distrust and resentment of the parents, who first introduced it to the wonderful ideas of Santa and the Fairy, is transformed into a negation of the objective, i.e., the world.
Broken trust in the "care" of others - their motives - and distrust of self, and its ability to discern truth from lie, gradually develops into a total negation of other, as obscure abstraction, and the utter trust in self - subjectivity, where things are clear, pleasure and pain are immediate and predictable.
The fairy tale is now produced by the child, so as to replace the one's it has lost - having outgrown them.
This may become a transference of trust in more sophisticated fairy tales - such as Marxism, or Abrahamism - often unable to break trust because they never make any clear promises, but remain obscure enough to mean anything and everything, for anyone at any time.
A sophisticated fairy tale, appropriating its won inevitable failure to produce what it implies, in the form of vagueness, or plausible deniability.
The child never grows out of its infancy - it merely progresses from a lower level fairy tale to a more sophisticated one.
It's trauma is carried on, and is expressed in how it names the world that denies validity to its mental constructs - so a world void of a one-god, universal morality, purpose etc. is "nihilism", and not its own concepts which, if realized, would negate the experienced real.
Such a child cannot change its definitions and understanding of terms like 'god', or 'morality', or 'meaning' - refusing to grow out of its infancy. It refuses to adjust them to its growing experiences with the real, because it has not overcome the traumatic event of its first disillusionment and loss of trust in those it most trusted.
If it cannot have what it needs, nobody will be permitted to have it - resentment becomes a vengeful negation of all that contradicts its defensive strategy, or its renamed and repackaged - to be more adult - fairy tale.

Such a loss of trust in other, and of self, may gradually develop in a dependence on otherness if it remains idealized - in other words other-worldly, Trust is redirected towards the non-existent, and the non-experienced noumenon. - that which can never disillusion, or break the bonds of trust, because it does not exist other than as idea/ideal - in the mind, viz. subjectivized.
Now trust is placed upon what is personal, most intimate, and cannot be challenged or contradicted by anything outside self.
Distrust of self, in relation to otherness, is replaced with a trust in self, that detaches from otherness, using it only to project all that is negative - including distrust for one's own judgements.
If abstracted enough, then it cannot let it down, or reflect back its resentment; absorbing the projected negativity into its void.
A new care taker is found to place the child's distrust and resentment; one which will never challenge it, or disappoint it, because it does not actually exist.
The 'nil' is now reborn as a method of negating otherness, thusly reducing anxiety, and the comparisons of developing self-awareness.
The other becomes an apothecary of negation, leaving the positive for the self - subjectivity is cleansed of negativity, and projected upon objective otherness, ergo the nihilists nullifies the existent - sometimes absolutely, sometimes selectively, as was described in the Trojan Horse method.



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Plainly speaking, a nihilist is someone who having been disillusioned and disappointed over the years does not begin with the obvious, in seeking the negative in himself, but defensively begins with the more convenient process of seeking fault in the world or other than self.
We see this clearly in the conventional definition and understanding of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.].
The name nihilism, and its definition, is, itself, part of nihilism, because it begins with the presumption that the belief in god, universal morality, intrinsic value, purpose, and the very understanding of these concepts, including meaning, is "positive", whereas their rejection is "negative", even though they are not necessary for the existence or the evolution of these concepts.
Recovering Abrahamism, feeling proud of their maturation out of its infantile rhetoric, inevitable seek shelter in Marxism, offering an updated, more modern, less infantile rhetoric - the basic principles underlying both is not abandoned.
The definition of the words imply the negation of the existent, which is preserved rather than abandoned for better definitions, reflecting a more objective understanding, i.e., one based on the accurate perception and interpretation of phenomena.
In other words concepts represented by the word 'god', as it is defined by modern nihilists, is nihilistic; morality, as it is defined by nihilists, as either being founded no a one-god, or in a universe, is itself nihilistic. Both can be defined in ways that require neither, nor are dependent on cultural or human validation, because they exist independently, and man discovers them in existence, either as forces of nature or as evolved behaviours facilitating a specific survival strategy.
But children refuse to grow out of their infantile beliefs, or their infantile trauma - if god is implausible, then all is negated along with this idea/ideal; if they can't have Santa Clause then nobody is allowed to have a gift.

If all cannot be equal in and through the absolute-one, then all will be equal in and through the absolute nil.

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Nihilism is entirely noetic - abstract - so it can only externalize itself linguistically, i.e. semiotically.
Nihilism is a linguistic contraption. It has no other reference other than symbols/words on text, or as art, or as spoken words - all art-forms.
It does not exist independently. It's core values and principles, are absolutely absolute - an absolutely noetic, theoretical, ideas/ideals.
Even its identifying moniker "nothingness" has no external reference - noetic through and through.

It must corrupt and undermine language so as to negate it - detaching it from reality and converting all concepts into ideologies founded on abstractions.
This is the essence of subjectivity.  
A form of self-deceit with many psychological applications.

Positive nihilists, for instance, do so to then fabricate superstitious, supernatural, surreal positive concepts - finding validation through the seduction of others.
The number of minds it proselytizes becomes evidence of its "truth". It has no other standard other than popularity, because it can only exist in minds of a kind that can conceptualize abstractions.
Pure nihilists, conversely, do so to undermine everything, even the very utility of language, so as to insinuate parity through negation. They seek parity in uniform negation; collective nil; equality in and through the concept nothing, raised to the level of an absolute that usurps absolute thingness.

Here we see the bipolar dualities of nihilism and its binary method - 1/0, absolute order/absolute chaos, oneness/nothingness - black/white, either/or.
The emotional expression of conviction constitutes the very presence of an absolute - faith; relationships become evidence of substance.
The existence of the symbol/word for absoluteness constitutes evidence of its existence - the representation is the represented; words/symbols representing it and other similarly non-existent phenomena.

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Krishnamurti wrote:
It's no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.

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"Beyond reasonable doubt" has transformed into either "beyond reason", or "beyond doubt".

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A nihilist becomes intoxicated by the power of his abstract annihilation of other forms of nihilism; joy erupts in him, at the ease with which he destroys earlier versions of his own psychosis - he "advances", feeling more powerful, progressing towards an end to all endings - his own.
Drunk on the imagined power, he numbs his pain to let the mirth flow freely, exceeding his purview, and then he begins to erase large swaths of space-time - he forgets in clouds of inebriated obscurity - beginning with the past; then proceeding to lay waste of a future he will not be a part of, leaving himself the shallow realm of his understanding, stretched to its limit through mentors and idols of his ephemeral worship.
Like all absent idols, they can never contradict their memory, with their sobering presence. They become, like an artist's work, the property of the one recalling, within the limits of his own mind. Their intentions engulfed by the interpreter's own.

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When will they discover a virus that is not genetic at all, but entirely memetic, i.e., the nihilistic-virus?
Not found in pig faeces but propagated via a parasite-meme, i.e., a meme that is entirely nihilistic, linguistic, ideological.
Think of a parasite/meme symbiont...a parasite that does not expel the virus but integrates it into its own parasitism, as if it were "divinely chosen" to do so.

Now that would be mind-blowing.

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Cognitive dissonance may be the source for nihilism's impact on the mental state of the individual - a conflict between the body's movement towards increasing order, contradicted by an ideology that is detached from natural order - dissonance of the real and the ideal.
Neurosis is the by-product of such cognitive dissonance. Finding relief in chemicals, alcohol, self-numbing etc.

Narcissism & Schizophrenia - a schism seeking an escape from the internal dissonance.
Psychosis & Cynicism - an attempt to relieve the body of the accumulating dissonance in the form of laughter, viz., ridicule, mockery.

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