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That is devastating.

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100% repeat of history. It's uncanny.

Like Satyr says, the American 'messianic' delusion is shattering.
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Reminded me of this...
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...which reminded me of this...
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...giving us a genealogical branch on the ideological tree of nihilism.
We may trace it back further, through Judaism, into Zoroastrianism, and then back through the ages to when consciousness of consciousness began the process.
Every step is an appropriation, interpretation, adjustment, and inevitable corruption of the previous...but the sequence is linked by a pattern of denial of the phenomenon by the idea/ideal, i.e., noumenon - a repulsion of body by mind - a desire to dismiss or transcend the flesh.

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History is written by the victors, and it is revised to agree with an image and an objective they wish to cultivate.
Subtle adjustments of events, and their meaning; concealment or downgrading other events as less decisive or as uncertain etc.
There are many feminine ways to spread gossip and undermine another.

Then they criminalize historical revisions so as to prevent any alternative versions from challenging their narratives.
He who controls the past determines the future. But there are no certainties and no absolutes.
Nature exposes lies and corrects pretences.
Words do not suffice to change the past, as it is continuously manifesting as presence.
The present exposes the accuracy of a narrative concerning the immutable past.

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PostSubject: Re: History History - Page 4 EmptyThu Oct 28, 2021 7:18 pm

It's easy to understand History when you realize those who accomplished and were victorious, can repeat or demonstrate their previous successes today.

Those that cannot repeat it, did not earn it beforehand, not 100 years ago, not 500, not 5000.
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PostSubject: Re: History History - Page 4 EmptyMon Dec 06, 2021 3:03 pm

Since it's the independence day


70% of finnish losses was only caused by artillery if I remember it right
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I see.
Used to love this board game with pieces that looked like that.
A war strategy game.
Axis & Allies it was called ...before computers made such game obsolete.

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Satyr wrote:
I see.
Used to love this board game with pieces that looked like that.
A war strategy game.
Axis & Allies it was called ...before computers made such game obsolete.  

I actually think people who make videos like this play games like hearts of iron 4 or anything by Sid Meier.
I don't think they are obsolete, it just takes time to put all the pieces on the table and actually get people to play for many hours and actually learn the rules.

I've played tabletop games and going to someone's house to and playing for 6-8 hours can be very exhausting, even
if the game was way more simple/straightforward than civilization.

I know at least 3 complete WW2 fanatics, at least two of them basically know the armor plates of each tanks and which freaking ammo type will penetrate which tank and from which angle. (not that it's needed in these more grand strategy games yet they enjoy the slower one's as well)
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I knew Troy had an influence over the creation of Rome but didn't know it was still referenced to in other areas of Europe. I'm surprised that they would be held up as the heroes or ideal despite the flaws i personally see in a city-state willing to defend a seducing coward and fight behind walls which I would imagine would also be seen as a form of cowardice in general (Even having women "amazons" fight for them, which remind me of the modern western militaries). I'm also surprised with how the Spartans were alluded to have ties with with the chosen which I think might be a stretch...

Is it just a romantic bias towards prosperous/stable societies in general? The consequences of which are apparent to us, but not those still living in times of heath?

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History can be revised - past reinterpreted in the present - but it cannot be changed.
Those who fail to interpret it as precisely as possible condemn themselves to repeating it, failing to learn from its example.

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Attempting to revise history to agree with an ideology is like selectively concealing or cultivating the body to agree with an ideal.
The entirety of the body and how it relates and performs within the world, both within manmade and natural environments, is what reveals the ideal's advantages and disadvantages; the ideal's motives, its presumptions and errors.

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"In 1991, Ukraine had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world and by 1996, it had completely disarmed. " Lately I have had very hard to trust anything I read.
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Yes Ukraine once had the third largest nuclear arsenal.
Gave it up in some kind of agreement to reduce nuclear proliferation. the Americans, at the time, feared these weapons would fall in the "wrong hands".

It is said that one of the reasons Putin invaded was because Ukraine was starting to talk about rebuilding its nuclear arsenal.....though a smaller one.

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Iraq = 438,300 km²
Ukraine = 603,600 km²

Iraq mostly Muslims fighting with each other if not for Hussein.
Ukraine only has the antagonism of Ukraine - who once fought with Hitler - and Russophones - who mostly fought against Hitler.

America uses shock and awe, reducing all invade countries to rubble - subsequently making billions in rebuilding what they destroyed.
This is one reason for their lower casualties.
Russia doesn't want to destroy Ukraine but occupy it as intact as possible.
The difference in fighting skill is evident between Europeans and Arab Semites.
The terrain is also a factor.

Iraq invasion lasted about 2 months. Then it fought on for years.
Ukraine invasion is in its first week. I suspect a pro-russian government will be set up and Russia will leave, helping it with weapons, information, and special forces etc.

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Boman, Thorleif wrote:
The Greeks have given the world the science of history; the Israelites gave the world historical religion. In contrast to all their neighbours, both peoples knew what history is; this is no consequence of their mental giftedness, for there is another reason.

Boman, Thorleif wrote:
Nature and history are correlative terms, like being and motion, space and time. Existence can be experienced as both. Nature is then existence construed as something that exists, while history is existence construed as development and continuous happening. Nature is the content of space, and history is the content of time.

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