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Reproduction specialization, called gender roles, express themselves in every aspect of the human condition, and so also philosophically, or how the individual is inclined to relate to reality.
Nihilism, as a by-product of an organism awakening to world and its own place within it, or what we call self-consciousness, also manifests two distinct variations of world annulment – masculine & feminine forms of nihilism.
One, I call ‘positive’ (masculine), because it constructs alternatives to what is missing in the world, and what it desperately requires to cope with it, and himself within it; the other I call ‘pure’ (feminine) as it expresses a submission to what is desired but absent, even if it will outwardly pretend so that it retains an advantage.
Woman, as agency of nature, is in eternal conflict with herself - feminine mystery. She cannot deny chaos, like a man can deny it.
This does not mean she is aware of it herself, nor that if she is that she will admit it.
The former projects into the world ‘missing’ what is needs, what it constructs in its own mind; the latter is desperate but unable, or unwilling, to create and to then believe in its own creation, so it seeks what it desires in others, though it may not fully buy into them.

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A memetic virus mirrors the strategy of viruses that affect the body, it also follows the same life-cycles: 1-Attachment, 2-Penetration, 3-Uncoating, 4-Release, 5-Assembly, 6-Biosynthesis.
For a memetic virus, such as Nihilism, the transmission is via symbols/words, and the same cycle is this:
1-Attachment: mind comes in contact with a nihilistic idea(l) in text, or word of mouth narrative.
2-Penetration: abstractions penetrate the mind as ideas, in the form of metaphors.
3-Uncoating: nihilistic virus gradually unfolds its meaning, corrupting pre-existing ones.
4-Release: New abstractions arise, that have no reference to reality, or that directly contradict what is experienced.
5-Assembly: these abstractions are combined into new unities, contradicting the sensually perceived world.
6-Nihilistic meme enters the core of the mind’s conceptualizing, gradually detaching it from reality, and engulfing it in tis subjective, private uni-verse, of self-referring absolutes.  
The absolute is taken literally rather than as a simplification/generalization constructed by the brain itself.  



Since we are analysing a memetic virus that mirrors genetic, or physical, viruses, we must describe it in memetic terms.
A memetic virus enters the mind as symbols, such as numbers/words, socioeconomic, cultural images, carrying with it meaning.  
The mind must be primed for the virus to be effective, making it inconsequential to all life that does not share the ability to learn and react to signs, and to associate them with specific emotions, images, concepts, meanings.



Since we are analysing a memetic virus that mirrors genetic, or physical, viruses, we must describe it in memetic terms.
A memetic virus enters the mind as symbols, such as numbers/words, socioeconomic, cultural images, carrying with it meaning.  
The mind must be primed for the virus to be effective, making it inconsequential to all life that does not share the ability to learn and react to signs, and to associate them with specific emotions, images, concepts, meanings.
Its meaning detaches the mind from reality, and gradually places it in a catatonic state – inverting; turning inwards, esoteric, narcissistic.
In some cases it results in fragmentation as parts of the mind remain true to the original genetic programming and others succumb to the virus – compartmentalization, or what Orwell described as ‘double-speak’.
Jaynes described it as Bicameral Mind – the gradual emergence of self-consciousness, being experienced as an external will speaking inside the organism’s mind.
He claimed the Homeric Age was full of such instances of confusion.
What we now call conscience, or internal dialogue, was believed to be spirits, and then gods, speaking directly into the mind.
A type of schizophrenia brought about by superstition and ignorance.
Town-Square Messiahs, and hermits, claimed to be hearing god speak to them.

The nihilistic virus has a different effect.
It slowly detaches mind, at the nervous system, from body, the physical, or from world, from phenomena.
The sick mind falls into a state similar to the process of dying. It becomes oblivious to the world outside itself - passing away, while still living.
The sick individual falls into deep sleep - narcosis, a coma. Its brain continues to produce imagery only it can experience.
With this virus the mind seeks to assimilate other minds into its dream-world, or its esoteric mythology, drawing sustenance from the text  it was originally infected by.
It may be given an idol, or find one, or construct one out of a dead man who represents its ideal, corresponding to its deepest needs and fears.
The idol becomes a go-between, a proxy, it continues to live through.

The world is no longer of any relevance to it. What passes through its narcosis is ignored or is integrated into its dream-world, as validation.
World no longer challenges it, but inhibits it, or serves to validate its dream-world.
World is not engaged but selectively sampled, or completely ignored.
In its mind it begins to live its fantasies, its ideal life, no longer able to deal with reality.
In nature something similar occurs when a prey is taken down and is devoured while still living.
The animal seems oblivious, as if it does not know what is happening to it. The brain flooding its system with natural narcotics, saving it from the worse pain it can ever experience.
Something similar occurs with individuals that have experienced a traumatic event - one they cannot deal with without risking madness or severe damage.
The mind compartmentalizes it and pushes it out of consciousness - it forgets.
But not entirely. Triggering stimulation may resurface the memory, or they come out in dreams as nightmares.      

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The simplest organism uses its primitive senses to distinguish patterns,
It has no culture telling it what to see and how to interpret it.
It has no education to direct its judgments.
It has an evolved a simple but effective way to discriminate.

Only the human organism, infected by a mental parasite, can be convinced that what it perceives as different is, in fact, the same, or that what it perceives is not actually so, or that it is illusion, or that it is actually the opposite of what it appears to be.
Only one organism can be trained to selectively discriminate and to trust its own evolved sensual awareness, formulating or adopting all kinds of excuses to discredit them.
Do other animals require a PhD in molecular biology to distinguish what is edible from what is toxic to it?
Do other animals require third-party affirmation to judge what their own senses are exposing them to?
They may not know what makes the other different, but they know that it is different.
They may not know why they are attracted to another but they are attracted to it.
They may not know why one mate is more fit than another, but they know it because they've evolved an intuitive method of judging.
Only humans have developed an entire philosophy to discredit their own awareness and to become cognitively blind to what is sensually obvious.
Only the human animal, the manimal, has developed an entire list of excuses to disregard his own evolved intuitions, and to substantiate theoretical abstractions that have no sensual validation.
Why?
Because only the manimal can develop a memetic virus that would be in conflict with its genetic dispositions.
An insane primate.
A manimal that delves into internal fabrications to escape a world that will not go away, and that is shared by all living organisms.
A sick, depraved manimal capable of exceptional deceit.

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Translating, and/or interpreting, the phenomenon into a noumenon is the simplification of stimulation into neural impulse, producing in more primitive organisms, a localized reaction that cascades throughout it via the process of (inter)action – cell interacting with cells in its vicinity.
The process evolves from translation to interpretation and from simplification to generalization.
Stimuli are translated into nervous energy, also producing a localized effect, simplified to nervous energy, and then transmitted, via the nervous system, to the brain where it is interpreted, connected with other nervous energies into relationships of meaning, called generalizations.
Most of the data is lost in the process of translation, transmission, and interpretation, making the inclusion of details a measure of data that is not lost but incorporated into the generalized interpretation – abstraction, mental model.
The more data included in the abstraction, in a cohesive harmonious ‘whole’, the more sophisticated the mental model, or the interconnections that give meaning to what is received.
From the start, the translation from stimuli to nervous energy is a simplification of the phenomenon into what can then become noumenon. This describes a reduction in the amount of possibilities being processed – dimensional reduction.
Therefore, when we speak of translation and interpretation we mean a cutting away of spatial/temporal dimensions. More primitive organisms cut-away more dimensions, processing only a fraction of probabilities, unable to process spatial possibilities.
Plants, for example, have no capacity to perceive space/time, possibilities, but only deal with probabilities with their immediate (inter)actions with patterns, or what is ordered.
More sophisticated organisms can deal with space/time possibilities as the not immediate but the theoretical possible. They can pre-empt immediate contact by using memory – precedent.
Plants have a rudimentary form of it in that their genes are stored memories, produced by past experiences – experiences (nurturing) that preceded their emergence and passed on to them via reproduction.
Sophisticated organism, such as mammals, have an additional pool of stored memories due to their brains – experiences.
Experiences may produce reactions that come in conflict with genetic memories, beginning the process of mind/body conflict.
Here is where Nihilism takes root, beginning as a neurological discomfort, seeking relief.

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Only the human manimal can use the (re)actions to its own automatic processes of translation and interpretation to discredit them, or to synthesize an alternative that have no external reference, or invert it, essentially believing the opposite of what it perceives.
Only the human manimal is capable of this kind of self-induced neurosis, as it strives to escape from the reality of itself and the world it finds itself within.
A by-product of self-consciousness.

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Worship of the un-real, the surreal, that which cannot be presented as phenomenon nor expressed using 'common language' is an indirect method of worshipping death.
It is death worship masked as positive perspectives, feel good outlooks, and pseudo-intellectual jargon.
It is a way of manipulating vanity, not as an outlook but as a cover.

Same as when a moron purchases a nonsensical piece of f-Art to adhere to peer pressure and the popular image of enlightenment.
Th buyer has no clue, nor can he make sense of what he is purchasing, but does so to pretend that he does....like the books on the bookshelf of his 'study' is supposed to imply that is is cultivated that he knows and he understands.
Best we can hope for from such douche-bags is that they know and can defer and refer to, such as Hume, Nietzsche, Spengler, Schopenhauer etc. as if they actually understood, beyond their subjective, emotional interactions.
Like a Liberal who listens to Wagner without a clue as to what he is listening to and what it means.
I would say that all Nihilists re clueless about their theoretical naive utopias, because they have no experience with them.
They exist as mythological, literal, realm their naivete can escape into.

Like the theoretical world where no conflict exists and all are equal and nobody suffers.
It's the self-serving hope pushed to its compartmentalized extreme.

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Worshipping the dead is the idolization of those who cannot answer, cannot contradict, cannot challenge.
Dead thinkers, dead ideas, dead ideals; theories with no pragmatic success, no precedent, no reference other than in theory, as idea(l), as noumenon.
Death worshipping is the worshipping of what cannot contradict with presence, cannot respond.
It is the overtaking of presence to substitute it with theory, with ideals; with naive, infantile fantasies – mythology taken literally.
Ideals constructed in the mind, like toys – and have no application outside of it.
Manchild, Hebrew ideals, attracting only infantile womanly spirits.
They are ideals of the slave, dreaming of a fast and easy escape from his predicament.

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Transsexualism and this recent invention of new terms to describe gender identities is part of Nihilism and its implied occult esotericism.
What does the transsexual claim?
That his/her identity is a subjective construct, and he would rather be the one who decides.
His reasoning is based on an innate, invisible, internal 'spirit', or soul that feels out of place in the body it occupies or in the identity it was given by society – collective subjectivity.
Tangible physical body is replaced by intangible, theoretical, spirit.
(S)He also claims that language is inadequate to define what he is, or how he feels, and that new words have to be invented to define 'it', or that old words have to be redefined, or used in unconventional ways.
The same dis-ease expressed through a different symptom.
A dis-ease linguistically based and passed from host to host – memetic virus and/or parasite.
Because language is what defines culture, or meme, it can then be claimed that all social identities are a matter of symbols – referring to abstractions.  
This relates to money and how it has been detached from the gold standard.
With no tangible standard to evaluate money in relation to other commodities the concept of money becomes entirely abstract, and because everything can be purchased using money, everything has an abstract value founded on a shared judgment, or a personal (subjective) one.
Furthermore, since money refers to numbers, and they are a type of language, therefore everything is a matter of social conventions or personal judgments.
Money can refer to anything and purchase anything... and so all language can be applied to anything, and define anything.
Marxism and Capitalist materialism converted to the abstraction of symbols (numbers/words).
It follows from a simple premise: all can be converted to symbols, and all symbols can be detached from the tangible and made abstract, therefore all identity can be invented and connected to feelings, whims, fashion, or whatever standard the individual, or the collective chooses to use.
Misers still practicing shameless usury.
The delusion that money can compensate for everything nature denied to the individual, and that the individual can sell his/her body, sacrifice it, to buy a new spirit, and pay it off yearly.
Debt slavery is the primordial sin converted to Marxist/Capitalist economics.

The meaning of value is lost to subjectivity.
Its true meaning is a reference to a juxtaposition in relation to a tangible goal, or in relation to the self and its physical needs/desires.
Now it can mean anything, to anyone, at any time.
Bread can fluctuate according to supply/demand becoming the tangible, but what of intangible concepts, like love, fame, truth?
These can have any cost, because it's all subjective.....therefore all must be made subjects and all attempts to make them tangible is to deny them their subjectivity.
Subjectivity is code for American individualism - freedom. Freedom from king and country, from god, but more importantly from the past, and from its determined manifestations which are present - presence, or appearance.
Money can buy you freedom from your authoritarian past, made apparent.
It's a liberation from the apparent, and an escape into abstraction, the intangible the theoretical....the subjective, or esoteric, occult.

The weakness the virus exploits is found in this anxiety concerning the inescapable past, and in the desire to flee from it, to be freed from it, because the past is not 'in the past' but it is presence.
What is the only factor that makes absolute determinism fail?
Chaos, defined as randomness.
But for the feeble spirit this is worse than a determining and dissatisfying past.
Fear, becoming thymos and Desire, becoming eros, clash - fragmentation, a shattering of the psyche.

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PostSubject: Re: Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms Nihilism: Signs & Symptoms - Page 10 EmptySat Dec 16, 2017 8:12 am

Similarities between the triad, Judaism, the mother, and the offspring Christianity and Judaism:

Besides the common reference to Abraham as their spiritual father, and Jerusalem as the worldly seat of their shared references, their primary commonality is founded in their status as Religion - not to be confused with spirituality and doctrines such as Buddhism and Hinduism.
Hinduism, in particular is an Aryan spirituality, and Buddhism is a later development, similar to how Christianity relates to Hellenism.  
---All three worship death and dying, indirectly.
---All three are expressions of positive Nihilism.
'Positive' nihilism proposing a linguistic contraption, a symbol, that negates the sensually perceived and experienced world.
---All three believe in an absolute.
Absolute beginning & end.
Absolute one, whole, order, certainty (faith) - absolute order given an anthropomorphic essence, and in the case of Islam and Christianity a form, image - icon.
Judaism refuses to conceptualize their abstraction,l Islam refuses to depict it, and Christianity, affected by pagan idolatry has no qualms.
Christianity is the outcome of Judaism coming in contact with Aryanism through Hellenism.
Cross-contamination is the outcome.
Christianity is the contamination of Aryanism by Judaism, and the splintering of Judaism into Zionism and Humanism, culminating in Marxism, is the contamination of Abrahamism by Hellenism.
Christianity selectively adopts Hellenism, replacing pagan traditions, concepts, metaphors, mythologies with Judaic adaptations of them.
For instance, the multiplicity of the dodecatheon and Hellenic narratives metaphysically representing natural forces with deities and heroes, are replaced by the concept of a triadastic singularity (father/son/holy spirit), corrupting the Platonic concept of psyche (chariot rider and reigns and stallions), corrupting the concept of the Platonic ideal and replacing it with their eternal soul, or perfect spirit, and converting the deities and demi-deities with their saints, and Hellenic Heroes, such as Heracles, with their martyrs.
---All three offer 'salvation' from an undesirable existence....differing only in the method and the time/place, and through which representative - Messiah.
Islam and Christianity have their own, and Judaism awaits him, as the coming of Armageddon.  
Christianity, infected by Hellenic love of world and life, has its icon, its Messiah represent the world's redemption.
Jesus 'redeems the world' to make it anti-nature - cleansing it of its past (primordial sin). Followers, 'true believers' the faithful are the saved in waiting - enduring this life to gain access to the more real reality of an after-life - life via death. What dies is the body, the physical, the phenomenon is destroys leaving only the noetic, mind....renamed soul, spirit.
Point of inversion is the nervous system, where body meets mind. there the Christian places Jesus as a representative, an icon, of inversion, of vague transition from body to mind - rebirth.
Mind is eternal...able to pass-on from body to body through language.
Genetic memories are converted to memetic ones, and the idea(l) can survive in any body that accepts god's word = learns to speak and read the language and to decipher its meaning appropriately, in accordance to Scripture, the shares meme.
God survives as Book, and he is made body by the people of the Book.        
---All three have words, written in Sacred Books, as their reference point, which distinguishes them as Religions.
They place 'word' the symbol, as a representation of mind, above the physical, the sensual, the aesthetically accessible.
Mind usurps body, and body is made into a entrapment, an illusion, a vehicle for the spirit/soul, which is their way of saying mind.
From there we get the current denial of appearance, and the idea that some are trapped in the 'wrong body' or that races and sexes are social construct, because appearances are 'superficial'.
Mind is malleable and can create its own alternate reality by sampling the sensually perceived.
This is comforting to the Abrahamic,a s it is to all Nihilists, including the later to develop secular forms, such as Marxism, humanism and trans-humanism.
Mind can synthesize abstractions into any combination and then represent this invention with a symbol, and give it a name, a word, or a number.
Everything can be invented in a similar manner to usurp the real.
Subjectivity raised to the position of Divine power that rejects and then replaces objective reality, natural order - world.
Natural order is associated with the nil, and depicted by evil, - Satan.
In mathematical language it becomes the 0, in opposition to the positivity of the singularity, the one - 1.
One is the mental abstraction projected to replace fluid reality.
It's 'positivity' is really a negation of what is.
The singularity, the one, cannot be found externally, but can be felt, experienced in some internal alternate realm...in the mind, as a vague concept.  This refers to the mental fabrication of the abstraction that synthesizes stimulation into abstractions, into mental models.
What is worshipped is this mental model, conveniently placed internally where none can test it, nor validate it, not disprove it.
It is the platonic ideal made esoteric, rather than projected in an external, beyond realm, where perfection exist and this world is but a mere shadow of it, as Plato believed.  
We must remember that Plato represents Hellenic decline and his depiction of Socrates is of a man that exposes this decline to itself.
The "gadfly" stinging the Athenian rump.
This imagery is not accidental if we connect it to his image of the psyche and the two stallions that represent passions. Socrates is the horse-fly biting the rump of Athenian passions, in an Athens that has surrendered the chariot, the polis, to their frenzy.
We must also keep in mind his admiration for Sparta if we wish to fully understand why Socrates returns to Athens, after the war, as a changed man. A man that has discovered the wisdom of keeping quiet and not sharing his thoughts with the masses of mediocre minds that do not possess his wisdom.
He is depicted as monotheistic afterwards, as a necessity for the promotion and maintenance of stability within the polis. The masses need an absolute, a certainty, a singular idea - a simplified/generalized idea(l) to submit to.
Multiplicity, of gods, as well as ideas, are a complexity, a burden only the few can bear without drowning in them.
The ideal leader is the one who does not want to lead, and shies away from all positions of authority because he most feels the weight of it - Philosopher King.

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Jews have the Tanakh, later writing the Talmud.
Christians have the Old Testament, later witting the New Testament.
Muslims have the Quran.
Unlike other spiritual texts, the Text is the final reference point.
The words are not metaphorical, representative of a externally validated reality, but are the final reference point, as their basis is linguistic, it is the Word, the symbol that does not represent the externally experienced but usurps it, denies it, contradicts it – annuls it.
Word is the final arbiter.
What is word?
Representation of the nervous system's reaction to world.
Like hedonists make pleasure their all-encompassing meaning, placing the nervous system's reaction as the highest wisdom – the effect as a cause.
The nervous system is where the conversion of phenomenon to noumenon occurs.
It is where body becomes mind, through yet incomprehensible processes.
Processes that translate sensual data into nervous energies and then into sensation, emotion, and finally, in higher life-forms into abstraction.
This is the point of mystification, the narrative of holy inception, when the Holy Spirit comes down to earth to convert the mind into body... an inversion of the process.
God, as mind, pre-exist body, and the body is its creation.
Nihilism inverts everything.
It begins with word, and it also begins as mind as the given that then creates the body - noumenon creating phenomenon, therefore the subjective is all, and the objective world is its construct.
Consciousness precedes world, it does not emerge from it.
This is what Abrahamism is.
This is what the dis-ease called Nihilism is.
Everything is inverted and then this inversion is clouded in linguistic ambiguity, and places in a beyond, or a within, where it cannot be judged by the common mind, even if it had the will and the courage to do so honestly.
Meme precedes genes.
Mind precedes body.
Words, language, semiology, precedes reality.

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Because world, or what we call reality, can only be conceptualized as a singularity, a whole, a one, the mind falls into the error of assuming it is so.
It's an easy step from a shared reality to a oneness.
But reality is fluid, is (inter)activity, it is Flux, so never one, complete, whole, or a singularity.
It requires an artistic mind to comprehend this.
The majority lack the imagination or the courage.

When we speak of subjectivity we speak of a fluid interpretation of world, but when we speak of world we also speak of fluidity.
This is an additional reason consciousness is constant and never final, never ending.

Mind attempts to keep-up with world - this concept has been described as a 'falling away'.
Subjective mind constantly reaffirms reality by interpreting it.....and world is constantly changing, rearranging, and only exhibits patterns of consistency, relative to a human life-span, seeming eternal.
Our laws of logic and nature are these patterns in patterns that predict interactivity.

This is reflected in the process of interpretation which is based no on/off mechanism, producing binary logic and dualism.
What does on/off mean?
This is related to energy/matter being defined as faster/slower rates of interactivity.
A neural pulse (energy), flows through a neural cluster (matter) and this is the state of ON
No neural pulse flows through a neural cluster, an interconnected neurological network of cells, and this is the state we call OFF.
From this simple on/off consciousness is produced, and since it is the mechanism used to think, to be aware, the mind must become sophisticated enough to realize that this is a mechanism interpreting reality. The artistic sensibility.
This evolution is akin to that which realized that self-consciousness was not an external will speaking to the individual, but the individual speaking to itself - Bicameral mind.
For a primitive mind conscience may feel as if some otherness is speaking to it, when it is a different part of he brain becoming aware and criticizing and analyzing the rest of the brain.
Schizophrenia is an evolutionary step towards full consciousness of self.
A condition easily degenerated to in the case of illness, or trauma.
anxiety/fear, relative to world outside brain, can produce schizophrenia as a self-protective mechanism of compartmentalization - where to contradictory opinions can be held simultaneously as being 'true' - or as a way to distance ego from self - mind from body disconnect.

Approach to the objective means a synchronization of the unity of patterns, as a manifestation of past, harmonizing, with the interactivity of patterns (order) we call world.
This would be absolute synchronization and determinism.
Chaos, or random energies, spoil the perfection and make will possible.
In an absolutely determining universe consciousness would be superfluous, or a condition that would require a god, or an alternate reality to justify its emergence and continuance.
Consciousness is necessary only because the cosmos is not entirely governed by order.
Life is the ordering in opposition to randomness. A constant affirmation of order.

Change is not radical, order is.
Liberal have it backwards because they are Nihilists and this dis-ease is characterized by inversion.  
If they are not constructing fantasy realities using code, symbols, words, they are dismissing all language as meaningless.
If they are not worshipping the abstractions in their deal - idealism - they are indirectly worshipping chaos, as a way to escape past, and its manifestation as presence, dreaming of becoming pure noumenon - spirit, mind - leaving the apparent, the physical, the body behind.
This is the secular form Abrahamic transcendence takes.  

How would we identity such a fantasy concept of pure mind - god?
Through the only expression of mind permitted.....language.
'First came the word'....it is written in their shared spiritual code.
Words help them theoretically escape a determining past, cleaning themselves of 'sin', reawakening (reborn) as pure mind - as spirit in gods Scripture, gods word.
Secular Nihilists make themselves gods in training....finding a master to guide them towards their transcendence using symbols/words.
The idol, the icon, must be dead....so as to not blemish the ideal with reality, and acts as the Holy Ghost did in the Biblical tale.
The mind disconnects from the physical, the brain from the body, and becomes thought.....thought is divine, it is omnipotent.
It is not limited by space/time, by dimensional possibilities.
Absolute Subjectivity.
A reality in the brain usurping the one outside of it.
But such an alternate world needs followers, needs other minds to lend it credence and to become assimilated into a shared project.
It has no other way to validate and maintain itself.  
This fits in perfectly with the cycles of the memetic virus that must infect more minds to survive.
Parasite (see [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]) hijacking the organism processes - dominating its will. Hijacking brain, and through brain the body.
The physical, the body becomes a vehicle validating the idea of an external consciousness - a god.

This is not anything terribly innovative. Nature has already evolved such a reproductive strategy.
Neither is nihilism something unique.
It is the natural byproduct of consciousness producing self-consciousness.

Variations of nihilism, as I've noted, are multiple.....because they have no natural order to limit them.
They are noetic, thought.
Restrictions that apply to the real, do not apply to the spiritual, the theoretical, the abstract.
Of course nihilism re-synthesizes the already experienced of world, so this is its only limit - the individual's real life experiences, its second-hand reading, and its imagination.
Then it becomes a matter of connecting the same abstractions in novel ways that are also positive, and seductive.
This alternate reality must be as sophisticated as the kind of minds it seeks to assimilate into its mythology.
In ancient time with an illiterate, more ignorant populace, the mythology could be simpler.
Gradually it has to become more sophisticated, sampling form increasing knowledge of world, to attract a new kind of mind, but with the same weaknesses and cowardice....the same anxieties.
This is how the secular forms of nihilism emerge.

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I'm experiencing the utility of the absent absolute, from all its facets.

We have those who literally use abstractions in their mind, and represented by symbols/words, such as the #1, to justify a belief in it, and then we have the opposite utility and those who use its absence as validation for any and every belief.
For the last the absence of an absolute means an absence of certainty, of absolute truth - an argument from the negative.
Unable to accept gradations of superior/inferior, they resort to a simple method of using the absence of absolute truth as an argument for any truth, for subjectivity.
An opinion is not judged as superior/inferior based on its quality and quantity of references to a shared world but is equated with any and every opinion because man in not omniscient and is still relatively ignorant, therefore, for them, all opinions are equally valid, with the only acceptable criterion being popularity - how many minds lean towards one direction and not the other.

For them this is reason enough to postpone judgment indefinitely.....as unresolved,a s having no final certainty, as being forever debatable.

For example, for Christians their inability to prove their definitions of the word 'god' is converted to a advantage.
It proves their faith, with the sacrificing of reason and logic on the altar of their deity.
The absence of definitive proof is placed on those who are unconvinced - prove a negative, they demand.
Finally, the absence of absolute knowledge is reason enough to not discount the existence of their god.

They then refuse all opinions and definitions as superior because nothing can ever be accepted as such....only absolute certain superiority....never a degree of it.
They dismiss all superior probabilities so as to remain fixed on their preferred possibility.

If there is no absolutely objective, no whole no one, then in their demented psychology, all is equally subjective, unless it is more popular.
Subjectivity is measured as weakness that becomes strength only in quantities.
Qualities are dismissed as subjective.

At the same time they demand that the majority intervene to adjust the cost/benefits of their subjective opinion if and when they dare to apply it, or live by its principles.
Intuitively they know their world-views are emotionally based, and that if they actually lived by them they would suffer grave consequences.
Instead of finding error in their own mind they blame everyone else for the consequences that the majority cannot prevent from affecting them.
So, it's the racist system that is holding their mixed race child back, and their belief that races are social constructs still stands; it's a evil world that prevents the faithful from living up to their own dogma's values; it's the wrong application of Marxism that is to blame for its failure; it's the failing of others that the individual is trapped in a linguistic, moral, conundrum...it's always someone else's fault, because self is never to blame...and when ti is it is placed in equality with all others, because failure must be distributed equally and not be a burden upon the individual.
So, it's not that they, as individuals, are inferior, and weak, but that all humanity is so....and it must be pulled down to their level of inferiority, and weakness....all must fail, if they've failed; all must be mistaken if they've fallen into big mistakes in their lives...all language is meaningless if they've failed to use it properly.

Most of these degenerates do not want a resolution, they worship being lost in confused chaos.
There where they's inadequacies become lost in confusion and their inferiority finds equality in chaos.
The simplest concepts become large philosophical mysteries that have not been resolved because no absolute final answer has been given.
All superior probabilities are accused of arrogance and of presenting the absolute, because their inferiority cannot measure up, cannot offer an alternative, better, answer, a superior definition and explanation.
With no God, no absolute, what is superior has to be degraded and slandered and made to be equal to the feeble and the irrational.

Every opinion is subjective - equally a personal opinion, and any attempt to place the standard outside the mind is rejected, slandered, ridiculed...
Concepts like beauty have to be made subjective because someone may be hurt by placing the standard outside the mind.
Defining concepts like 'love' by using evolution and a pragmatic approach demystifies the word that, for them, must remain mystical and magical and a personal affair.
Defining 'self' as a continuum of memories, demystifies it for them. They need identity to be vague, subjective, mystical, so that men can claim to be trapped in women's bodies...
Defining 'gender' as the memetic application of a genetic, biological, specialized, reproductive role, demystifies it, and takes it away form their subjetification.

Defining any word that deals with the human condition by connecting it to perceptible, testable, verifiable, external behavioural standards is, for them, unacceptable, a threat.
Morality has to remain attached to the mystery of Abrahamism...the "Thou shall not" of a divine omnipotence because to attach it to a evolutionary, social method of survival is too down to earth for these hypocrites to tolerate.
If the mystification of an absolute named God, is absent, then all is left up to the individual's whims - his/her psychology.
All attempts to root it in observable reality is an attempt to present self as a god....in their demented mind.


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Unable to offer a superior explanation and theory, the degenerate uses the absence of a final, absolute, certain one, as an excuse to remain unconvinced and faithful to the delusions he has attached himself to in order to remain sane and to not feel ashamed.
Unable to offer a more objective opinion he wants to tear all down to his/her level of subjectivity, seeking emotion, self-comforting, self-flattery, delusion, narcissism, egotism in everyone else - projecting his own guilt, and unburdening himself from its shame.
He cleanses himself with an admission of sin.....but wants to project ti on everyone else, to feel pure and honest in his self-deceit.
He wants to become innocent by accusing all of a crime - all are guilty, therefore my admission is my purification, my weakness is my strength.
All are guilty - but I am free because I accept this guilt.
I am clean because I confess.

The abrahamic dogma..
All must admit to being equally guilty, becomes ....all are equally ignorant, therefore my admission of ignorance places me in gnosis - I know that I know nothing.
All must admit to being equally weak, because there is no omnipotence, therefore no superior/inferior strength, only equality in feebleness - I know I am weak, is a strength.

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Every and any absurdity can be justified and validated when you redefine the words that are used to represent them.
Like the words - God, Love, Man, Woman, Morality, Truth, Value, Self etc.

Proper definitions are not only rooted in a collective symbolism, called language, and represented by a text called ''dictionary' reflecting a shared history, but also by a shared reference point in what we call 'world' or 'reality'.

Symbols/Words connect historical past, with immediate presence.
The symbol/word (language) is a nexus connecting gene to meme, in a continuum - connecting noumenon with phenomenon, through sensual perceptions; connecting idea(l) to real.

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The advantage of Nihilism is that it redefine words in ways that cannot be proven sensually, forcing the evidence internally where anything can be used as justification if it has some payback.

When the Abrahamics changed the Hellenic definition of the word 'god' they mystified it and made it provable only internally.
Made the concept provable only esoterically - a private, subjective matter of faith and belief.

Abrahamics and secular nihilists, Moderns, do not want top define words externally - they reject all evidence, all relationships that are not internal.
They degrade language, so as to reinvent it, only accepting the dictionary as a necessary part of communication, and refusing all means that are not personal and subjective.  

'Beauty' cannot be externalized and measured using a standard all can be held accountable to....no, it must remain subjective, so that nobody is ever hurt, is ever made to suffer.
Hellenic definitions of beauty, as symmetry and proportionality, are rejected, because beauty, the word, must remain mystical, and only experienced internally - in the eye of the beholder.
'Truth' if it is not absolute, means private conviction.
God, if it is not Abrahamic absolute order, must mean nothing.
'Race', 'Sex', take your pick.
Denying it its potential hurtfulness the individual mind is trying to prevent it in himself.
His 'altruism' is self-serving....and to hide it he must accuse the other of it - his shame is converted to guilt and projected upon the other.

Guilt is expunged with admission, confession....and the making of amends, which usually includes a form of ritualized proselytizing - the world must admit its own sinfulness....means, it must be brought down to guilt, and then it must, it ought, to cleanse itself by admitting to it; all must confess to the same guilt, to bring about the 'good world' - Utopia: paradise on earth.

Although the definition of the word 'god' is nonsense, it is now the endless topic of debate, forcing all into a shared state of ridiculousness.
Just like the word 'absolute'.
How do some attempt to deny the Abrahamic definition of 'god'?
Well by constructing an equal, to it, word - just as ridiculous and absurd.
The atheist is pulled into the theist's delusions, and dialogue is over a word that is nonsensical -  'truth is there is no truth' and 'there is a absolutely no absolute' expresses this nonsensical state of being trapped in Nihilistic rhetoric.

The nihilist has only the word to show as evidence, and his usage of it to express conviction, certainty, emotional vigour, ego, and so on...
He cannot show an absolute - an indivisible, immutable, perfect, whole, singularity - but he can speak the word associated with his feeling, emotion, sensation, abstraction.
Same goes for the words, god, beauty, love, truth, race, sex, and so on....
They all describe an internal process, because they are intentionally defined in ways that have no external reference.
They are purposefully made subjective, to escape objective reality....which cares not.

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If you are trying to use words to self-gratify, to comfort yourself,t o flatter yourself,, to masturbate then ti si an easy affair.
Of course those who masturbate know that some form of external stimuli makes the experience more enjoyable, so how do Nihilists compensate for the absence of an external reference?
They place their delusions, their definitions and references in another's mind - usually a dead icon....or in some beyond, or beneath alternate universe.
Fantasy becomes more enjoyable with such projections.

Obsession and addiction to other, to an-other, is the outcome.
Icon is idealized, and if gone, if discredited, it is quickly replaced with a new one.


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Abrahamic, made secular humanist - Nihilist - absolves himself of shame by adopting guilt, and then absolves himself of guilt by accusing an-other, or by accusing all of his own guilt.
Decreasing its effect by sharing it.
Neurosis is shame that cannot be expunged by the admission of guilt, and by this method of projecting.

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Evaluations of degrees, of a cost/benefit analysis, is simplified to the simpler binary either/or absolutism.
If not all, then nothing.
If, for me, nothing, then nothing for all.
If all for everyone, then all for me.

It's simple, quick and very intuitive.

On/Off switching....dualities, binary.
1/0 - One/Nil
Either/Or...good/evil....Good/Bad...God/Satan....friend/foe....
Conscious/Unconscious.
Sympathy/Antipathy
Love/Hate

Love = perfect, good, absolute positive.
Hate is the negation of it - its inversion.

No gradations, no degrees, no superior/inferior.
It would be like mathematical language minus fractions.

If you love life then life is perfect, whole, complete.
If you show the slightest negative them you negate its love....you hate life.
if you love your family, then they can only be loved if they are perfect, whole, ideal.
If you love your children and wife, they are perfect - they ought to be, at least in your mind.
You must not admit to an imperfection otherwise its a blemish that negates the absolute perfect love.
Subjectivity helps...it's all in the 'eye of the beholder'.
If you love your wife, she must be beautiful, smart, perfect in every ways, otherwise you are admitting a blemish that spoils the ideal, the perfect, the absolutely divine.

Erotic blindness...frenzy of passion.
Not rational agape where the friend, the loved one is loved despite his imperfections and in relation to others and their blemishes.
Either/Or...it all is pure, or it is all tainted.
In the state of lust/love, erotic frenzy, your lover can do no wrong. Everything he or she does is perfect, cute, amazing.....and as passion dissipates over time what was amazing is mundane, and what was a cute quirk becomes an annoying habit.
Now the ex-lover can do no right.

The enemy is always void of all virtues, and the friend always void of vices.

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Immunizing against a virus has to be adjusted to the degree the virus has taken hold of the host's processes; how much of its original biology has been corrupted and infected.
First diagnosis is whether the patient can be saved, or if he is too far gone to be returned to his original state.
Second is what parts of its organization can be salvaged and how much has to be amputated - surgically removed.
Third is an evaluation of the patient's constitution, and if its body can take the interventional surgery - how well it can endure the trauma.
Then the doctor has to map out the infected areas with meticulous precision, and keep a steady hand.

The easiest method is to immunize the child before it is infected - preventative medicine.
All other methods are desperate measures.

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Cosmetic surgery is always about covering-up, and hiding the accumulated trauma of dis-eases, and/or event(s).
We can include the accumulated effects of interactivity, and the friction, upon the body, leaving behind traces and weakening its ability to repair the damage.

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How do Abrahamics symbolize their ideological liberation from the physical world that binds them and damns them to need/suffering?
Where do they place the point of their distinction from other organisms, including humans who have not been chosen to be freed, or have not found their liberation?

In the symbol/word.
Logos.
The animal that speaks is the animal with a soul, meaning the words outlive the body, the meme outlives the gene, the idea in the mind, outlives the body.
The animal that speaks is the animal that can be saved from the physical, the corporeal....and they are willing to sacrifice body to gain a symbolic eternity.

But what is speaking through the hosts?
The parasite, the memetic virus, the dis-ease, putting the body in a feverish frenzy, in a narcosis, full of delusions, dreams....
How numb the body feels to the mind that becomes detached from it.
A feeling of liberation. The mind soaring into fantasy unhindered by the physical, the tangible, the real, all too real.
In the fever the mind can dream of being king, emperor, god, as it slowly rots in its self-induced  coma.
Misery loves company.
The ill ones will want to make all ill, and then redefine the meaning of the word 'health'.
What does 'health' mean, when all are sick - in an infirmary?
It means the same as 'beauty' and 'love' to the ugly and the desperately lonely...to those willing to sacrifice intellectual integrity just in the hopes of finding a lifetime of mind-numbing bliss.

If you can say it, it is so.
If you can speak the words, write them down, make them tangible on paper, as art, then the inside is placed outside....the ideal is converted to the physical.
If you can convince a few desperate, cowards, then popularity becomes the external validation.
The lie becomes the truth if enough believe it.
What did the Jews learn from the Nazis?
Goebbels, Joseph wrote:
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
A nice Hebrew name for a good Christian socialist.

Shelter the people from the costs, repeat a pleasing, a positive, lie, and they will be your minions.
Watch the transsexuals and the women.
Sheltered, they repeat a pleasant lie, not fearing the consequences, demanding the State intervenes on their behalf, when reality comes too close for comfort.
Shelter the Negroes, tell them a pleasant lie, free them from their genetic past - the sum of all their past nurturing - and then intervene when they fail to measure up to the standards....or lower the standards to accommodate their lower performances.

The nihilist believes that if he can fool the world for long enough, then his lie will become truth.
Why is he so naive?
Because of his lack of talent regarding language, and art in general.
Because of his cowardice and desperation.
Because of his NEED.
Having been conveniently convinced that all hurtful categories are really social constructs; having been given a world detached from reality and made mystical, idealistic, theoretical; having associated humanity with world, he believes that by changing the minds of men, he is changing reality itself, and that if he convinces enough of them he is altering reality.
He is trapped in the comforting embrace of his linguistically supported subjectivity. A warm womb of naive idealism.
If he awakens to find himself in the cocooning cubicle, in his noetic pod, surrounded by sleepers like himself, he may want to fall asleep again, and to return to his dreams, or he may desire to destroy the world, meaning humanity, because he cannot endure the real world, beyond the simulations and simulacrum.
How can he live in a world where he is a constant reminder of how weak and cowardly he is; how unable to endure it?
How can he look at himself when his appearance reminds him of his shameful past, and all the mistakes he made trying to escape its determinations?
How can he hope to compete?
He would rather destroy competition, and conflict, or destroy the entire world, than risk being exposed as what he truly is.
How can a boy raised in a sheltered world, believing he is extraordinary and special, endure waking up to a world where he is barely mediocre?
How much money would he need to compensate?
How much self-deceit could he purchase?

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Top<>Down thinking, begins with the goal, the idea(l).
Presented as utopia, paradise, solution - as singularity, one, whole.
With nihilism it begins with a symbol/word.
It then works backwards integrating phenomena into the already established noumenon.
Its 'creativity' resides in how it can redefine and rename reality so as to fit it into the 'given'.
For such minds the world is only a problem in as much as it resists integration into the starting, self-referential, cohesive, idea(l).
Everything, including that which contradicts it, is re-formed and baptized, to integrate it.
The idea(l) remains unchallenged. All is eventually renamed and reshaped.
This is why the starting symbol/word is always vague, and mystical.
If it were not then the process would be impossible, and futile.
The starting premises, placed on the pinnacle, remains as obscure as required for the slow integration, towards the base, spreading to encompass all reality - a pyramid.
In Nihilism the pyramid is inverted, placing the point of departure in the individual. In his mind (subjectivity) - as idea(l), upon which the entire cosmos is to be balanced, in an ever-expanding arc.
A feat impossible, in reality, but entirely plausible in theory, because all this is occurring in the mind.
The individual is the focal point, out of which the entire universe is created; seemingly 'upward' when it is inverted downward; seemingly outward when it is inverted inward.

The individual is convinced he is exploring reality hen he is expressing his reaction to it.
The symbol/word is usually what the individual feels most vulnerable and anxious about.
It represents his greatest need.

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I enjoy watching nihilists in dialogue.

Their point of contention is a word, is the word, and how to define it internally, making a final agreement impossible.
They all detach it from world and then mystify it - which means to convert the word from a reference to a phenomenon into one that refers only to a noumenon, an ideal.
The tangible, experienced is converted to a theoretical abstraction that can only be shared linguistically, and not shared as an experience outside the mind.
If it were outside the mind a final agreement would be possible.

Then the issue becomes one of determining which version is more pleasing, is more hopeful and emotionally rewarding, and which is most believable, or is self-consistent, has a coherence that even a man-child can appreciate and embrace, having matured out of his earlier infancy.
He needs more believable fairy-tales. Same themes, only housed in more mature-sounding rhetoric.
Debates can continue forever, because there is no external, independent, standard to hold both accountable to it.
It becomes political, and politics is marketing, and marketing is about emotional manipulation and selling dreams to needy feeble fucks.

But there's a different manimal to be found in all this.
He appears rational, skeptical, until you realize he is averse to nihilistic idealism because he's fallen head over heals for it, in the past; has been its 'sucker', and is now cynical to all positive sounding propositions, using language.
What is his maturation process in lieu of his incapacity to trust his own judgment, and having been disillusioned, has become weary of all opinions and all judgments - his own and those of others?
His 'solution' is akin to that used by a heart-broken old maid that, in her dying spinster years, has decided that all men are liars, cheats, and savage exploiters of innocent girls.
He decides that having no mind to judge, because his mind has let him down repeatedly, that the easy solution is similar to that which evolves into a fear of darkness - fear of what cannot be justified, erring on the side of caution, so as to save self from possible, unforeseeable, damage.
Self-protective tactic.
Fear of darkness evolves in diurnal species that are essentially 'blind' when the sun falls and the moonlight is insufficient.
This Modern creature feels 'blind' to the world, because he has fallen into traps only social sheltering has prevented from becoming physically permanent. All that remains is the psychological scarring that is expressed in an automatic wincing....like when you've been struck so many times that the slightest movement causes an automatic, exaggerated, reaction.
This creature has a similar uncomfortable reaction to words.
He is so reluctant to trust them that he must seek popular judgment to appease his anxiety. He defers to popular judgment, because his has failed him.
He cannot trust words, especially those referring to his wounds.
So, how does this creature deal with his fear?
He sides on the side of caution, and dismisses all words, except those that are trivial and harmless, as being meaningless.
Innocuous platitudes.
Unlike the more macho manly 'positive' nihilist, overcompensating for his emasculation with bravado and the esoteric mystification of language, by disconnecting them from reality and making them tools to exploit and be exploited, this more feminine psyche rejects all language, like a jilted lover.
'Hell has no wrath like that of a spurned female'.
He, now a she, refuses to reconnect words to their rightful place, fearing that her exposure to the real world will be worse than the hurt she suffered when she fell in love with pretty words, spoken by charming boys.
Words that were proven to be empty of all substance.
She disarms others of the power words had over her.
Our girl has grown-up into a bitter woman who cynically denies all substance to words, and like all aging minds places her last hopes on the social netting, hoping to live-out her last days, trying to forget and to forgive.

On and on they will go....back and forth, debating the word 'god' for instance, when both have defined it by first detaching it from reality, and not as the Aryans defined the word.  
The dialogues happens within the nihilistic paradigm - ping pong for imbeciles.
Positive Nihilism, contra pure Nihilist - one/nil....Binary dualism.
Absolute one, or absolute nil.
An abrahamic battle of nit-wits...only one side now identities with secular nihilism, Marxism, or some version of the Frankfurt School.  
A meaningless debate over a meaningless word - a word purposefully made meaningless.
A word that refers only to abstractions in the mind....and has no reference in the world, as it did for the Indo-Europeans.

Then, when ping-pond with one ball tires....a new ball replaces it....a new meaningless word.
They mistake the back and forth for open-minded intellectual debate, when its the back and forth of idiots playing with words.
Pick a toy....a word. Make it plastic, artificial.
Make it meaningless, by disconnecting it from reality, from the earth.
Make the word into an idea that cannot be exposed as being wrong because it is entirely subjective - divine they call it.
Divine or magical.

Shall we play with the word 'love' or will it be 'morality' just to pretend we have complicated interests?
Take the word that refers to a behaviour, an observable, testable, perceived interaction, and make it divine - mystify it, by cleaning the earthy mud away.
Make it mystical, magical, subjective.
It must be subjective because in this game, everyone plays and nobody wins and so nobody loses....so nobody has to improve their game-play.
All will 'agree to disagree' in time....and nobody is keeping score, except that of the crescendo of cheers and jeers.
See, this game is not about rules and lines and points, or determining who is best, but it's about style, form....
Doesn't matter if you hit the ball with talent and accurately strike a point within the game space, but only that you swing with charm and a bit of feminine elegance....maybe with a pirouette, or an impressive leap and cry.

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It's interesting to analyze the progression of this mental dis-ease over the centuries.
Early Abrahamism had dissociated god and self from the corporal realm – their brain was partially detached from the body.
They believed they were 'spirits' trapped in the mundane world, spirits trapped in the body.
Spirits, is a metaphor for mind.
But they still maintained contact with the world via the words male/female and race and so on.
The dis-ease has progressed, for the ones proud of this progression calling themselves progressives.
These days even words like race and sex are no longer connected to body.
Men claim to be trapped in female bodies and women in male bodies.
The body, as a manifestation of past, is an entrapment, because it is not as easily denied and ignored, or not as flexible as the mind is.
Mind is more malleable.
Brain does not feel pain, for one.
It is an organ encased in a skull, like fetus in a womb.
It processes data, including pain, via the nervous system, through the spinal cord.
Moderns are essentially dreaming of becoming mobile paraplegics.
Their mind, now trapped by a body they do not accept, do not identify with, wanting to go rogue – desiring to liberate itself from the limitations imposed upon it by this cumbersome 'vehicle', wanting to soar free from its earthly roots.
Metaphor for salvation, and eternal life is this dream of mind being transferred to a more durable, less limiting, vehicle, to become whatever the dram dreams of becoming, no longer hindered and reminded of its past by the dreadful body.
Entrapment is common with nihilists.
The physical is what the body represents.
Appearance is how the mind experiences the body – visually, sensually.
Everything apparent must be denied by the nihilist, and then replaced by sensations, fantasies, ideas.
Mind wants to go to heaven – wants to go to an ideological realm... a spiritual world, where mind can be anything, dream of being anything.
In paradise there is no need, no suffering... meaning the brain is detached from the body's pain, its physical needs.
Like a dying man slowly loses contact with the world around him, as he slips away, towards death, we can recognize this progression, this passing-away, by his gradual sensual disconnection from reality, from the corporeal world.
We can also see this progression of the dis-ease we name nihilism, and can trace back to ancient times, in Abrahamic spiritualism.
Desire to self-numb, begins with the disconnection from the forces of nature, via the word 'god', and the disconnection from past, from ancestry, through the words 'spirit/soul'.
The words are the real point of detachment in the nervous system.
Christians added the word 'love' to their repertoire of detachments.
With them emotions could also be disconnected from, and converted to external deities - made divine or malicious – God/Satan. This represents their conversion from physical reactions to mental constructs – and this made them more malleable by the mind.
Hate and love no longer visceral, an automatic physical reaction to stimuli, but a matter of choice.
Now, the disease has progressed to also include disconnection from biology, from the apparent, via the words race and sex, male and female.
Gradually words are used to disconnect from world.
This is why both positive and pure nihilists agree on the magical power of words, and that language ought not to be reconnected to phenomena, but be further spiritualized, mystified.
They do not seek clarity, but relish confusion.
Confusion is a symptom of inebriation, of numbness... they want to remain 'high', and avoid the sobering weight of words.
Philosophy replaces religion for the secular nihilist.
In philosophy he can get his 'high', because there words are found in abundance.
It's the perfect discipline to find and detach words from reality, making his numbness more profound, his disconnected deeper.
A spiritual journey towards salvation, with the slow snipping away of mind from body, the noetic from the apparent, the real from the ideal, at the point of connection - the nervous system, represented by language.

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'truth' another misinterpreted word.
Among the degenerate it is a tautology with reality, rather than a perspective of it.
What this implies is static, whole, complete knowledge of reality, rather than an ongoing adjustment of mental interpretations to constantly changing circumstances....with only the perception of patterns governing the interaction of patterns.
For the degenerates it means absolute perspective, or omniscience, or Godly knowledge.
When they use the term it means, whether they know it or not, that they are in contact with divine knowledge - the indivisible, immutable, singularity, that shifts but does not alter its completeness.
It's a noetic perspective of the entire whole uni-verse., reduced down to a formula, or a symbol, or a word.
M-theory where 'm' stands for myth.

To know the 'truth' is to know god, the divine, for the degenerate...or to know of its existence.
The degenerate may offer a humble admission that he does not know the truth, but only knows of its existence.
Truth is now dependent on faith, and it also promises salvation.
The select few can know of the occult presence of 'truth' and have proven worthy of its secrets.

In Aryanism 'truth' means opinion and/or interpretation of interactivity, in other words existence.
To know truth is to know of a superior interpretation of a fluctuating existence. It is to understand, what is known - to perceive a pattern within the interacting patterns.
but this is not static, final, complete...it is forever falling away, demanding continuous readjustments - this is why consciousness is ongoing and not a final destination.
To perceive patterns in the patterns is to make the immediate less surprising, more predictable.

This implies levels of cognition.
Animals perceive patterns interacting; humans can perceive patterns governing the behaviour of these patterns (we call these natural laws when dealing with phenomena, or logic when dealing with noumena), therefore the next step up is the perception of patterns governing the patterns that govern the interacting patterns.
Patterns are by no means eternal, immutable, final....because interactivity produces attrition, and what we experience as change and measure as time.
Expanding universe is the perception of fragmenting possibilities, produced by (inter)activity.
The process is not so fast as to prevent the emergence of life, but it is continuous.
Dimensions fragment, chaos increases creating a movement toward absolute chaos which is never finalized - we call this linear time.
Now there are two possibilities, at this point....1- either there is an equal and opposite movement toward ordering, creating a universe where life is localized or 2- the movement towards chaos produces the possibility of a new universe emerging, as the expansion of space means an increase in possibility, because space=possibility, therefore the possibility that a near-perfect singularity will emerge becomes increasingly probable.
The second theory implies multi-verses and our own but a link in a chain of endless creation.
The first implies a temporal looping where life is but unaware of ordering and can only experience disordering - emerging as a reaction to it - therefore life=need/suffering.
I'm more inclined to accept #2 as more probable.

Whatever the case may be, 'truth' means no more than interpretation of reality, and interpretations are judged by how accurately they represent what is commonly perceived or experienced.
Truth is another way of saying 'subjective perspective', and these are more or less accurate, never absolute, never final, never complete, whole...because the cosmos is not so.
Absolute truth is another way of saying God in the abrahamic sense of the word....in other words within the nihilistic paradigm.
Secular Abrahamics pretend to have overcome Abrahamic superposition, and to have matured, but they have only altered the words they use to describe the same absurd concepts.
they, for example rename 'god' their one god, using a mathematical abstraction = #1, and think they are advanced and rational, because the symbol is part of scientific jargon.
But if the symbol 1 is understood literally as an absolute, a singularity, then they have replaced God with this secular symbol. They've only changed languages, but remain as childish and obtuse as ever.
Like when they replace English terms with Greek or Latin ones to pretend they are speaking of something intellectual and profound, when all they are doing is translating the same absurdities into another linguistic form.
Their usage of symbols/words is not meant to clarify, to bring forward into the light, into lucidity, but used to mask their hypocrisy and their lies, resting upon the same psychological anxieties.

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The idealization and mystification of symbols/words can only result in contradictions when applied in reality.
Modern cynicism is the outcome of mystifying concepts and idealizing words.
The child grows up expecting to experience 'love' in the manner it has been described to it, as something unreal and magical, only to be faced with its pragmatic and primal nature.
Three ways to react to such an awakening.

1- The child blames itself for the failure, leading to a lifetime of guilt and insecurity.
2- The child blames the world for the failure. The ideal is not questioned, but some 'evil' power is preventing it from being fully realized - conspiracy of others.
Child does not question the definition and its own romantic, idealistic understanding of the word - its divine mystification - but only those who cannot understand it, as it does. It's not him, nor his understanding and usage of the word, but others and their inability to understand and apply the word as it does.
3- The child blames the word itself. All words, in fact.
It's not how it understood it, but the word itself is a trick, a lie, a symbol of deceit. It distrusts all symbols/words, especially those that refer to its vulnerabilities, its wounds.

The proper usage of words is their placement as connectors between noumenenon, and interpretations of world, and the phenomenon, the world of inter-activity.
The word 'love' is not a mystical magical word, referring to a divine, occult force.
It is a word referring to a particular behaviour, an interactivity, with specific functions.
You can feel but more importantly perceive, see love in action.
The word refers to a behaviour, and not to a unreal, hidden force, entity.

We can say the same for words like 'morality', 'human', 'race', 'sex'....and so on.  


I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

Mind connects with body via the nervous system.
Nervous system manufactures abstractions by translating stimulation from inside and outside.
In more sophisticated organisms, with a large brain part of this nervous system, the stimuli are interpreted and given a symbol (word/number).
Language is the nervous system reacting to stimuli and translating them into a form the organism can use.
We can now see that language is the product of the nervous system.  
Therefore language is the link between noumenon and phenomenon.
A lot can go wrong in this process.
The fact that nervous system can be corrupted to detach rather than attach, makes language crucial in this effort.
Language is the point where the mind is disconnected from body, or the ideal is detached from the real, or the noumenon is disassociated from the phenomenon.
The degree to which this occurs determined the degree to which nihilism has infected the organism, via its nervous system, using language as a viral way into its internal processes.  

The memetic dis-ease, I've called nihilism, by properly defining the term that has been appropriated by the dis-ease itself, can now be diagnosed as a linguistic one.
Nihilism is a linguistically based and propagated mental disorder that gradually detached mind from body, the abstraction from the real.
For many of the infected this disconnection is pleasant, because, for them, reality is not flattering, nor acceptable.
The dis-ease spreads within the feeble and desperate, and by exploiting weakness in the organism.

Cynicism is the growing distrust in the organism's own nervous system.
Since misery loves company, the individual spreads this distrust as a way to compensate for its presence.
Romantic idealism is the distrust of the nervous systems of others.
It's not the fault of the symbols/words, nor of its application and usage of them, but it is the fault of someone or everyone else who fail to use and apply the words as it does, or purposefully reject their proper usage.
No matter how many times the word fails to in a successful experience, the individual does not alter its understanding and application of it.

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By placing the nervous system at the centre, or in-between mind/body - a nexus connecting or disconnecting - we may say that Moderns comprehension of 'spirit/soul' refers to this organic network.
They call spirit what is rightfully called mind, and they ascribe to it eternal life, when they ascribe to it symbols/words.
Language outlive the organism, and memes outlive genes.
You cannot kill an idea... you can only discredit and forget it.
Bury it.
The idea, converted to its crystalline form, can remain inert for as long as the material used to encode it endures.
Nihilism can remain in books, as text, for thousands of years, awaiting a host to infect.
Nihilism being entirely and completely noetic, abstract, and existing and reproducing, spreading, through language.
Now we know that nihilism is a neurological dis-ease – a severe reaction to reality.
Turning inward onto itself. Enveloping, cocooning itself in language, suing symbols/words.
Its multiple manifestations, its memes, are how the virus expresses itself outward.
Its primary effect is a disassociation of the physical from the mental – body from mind is alienated.
We see this in anti-racism, anti-sexism dogmas.
Appearance is not essence, for them.
The body is an illusion, or a superficial enveloping of a divine, occult, idealized essence... called 'spirit', or a 'soul'.
Notice how only humans have these mystical constructs... because only humans use language.
Language, or the ability to apply and use symbols, referring to emulate abstractions, is how spirit and soul are defined – logos.
Abrahamism converts logos to the disassociation of mind from body – body being the carrier of primordial sin, and mind the only escape.
Essentially it is a severing of the body from the mind, at the point of their merger – the nervous system.
Moderns express this psychosis in the current identity crisis - man trapped in woman's body, woman trapped in man's body... a demand to control the adjective....
Controlling the adjective is the control over value judgments.
Controlling these result in controlling verbs, and nouns.
The War like no Other takes on its linguistic, semiotic form.

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Greek intellectual revolution is rooted in their contribution of vowels. Physically, to form vowels you must open the mouth, in comparison to the closed, or tightness of the mouth required to form consonants. This symbolic gesture represents their intellectual openness, reflected in their cosmopolitanism. In contradiction to Abrahamic exclusivity. Christianity and Islam adopted this openness, Islam in its aggressive assimilation of world, and Christianity in its cosmopolitan salvation, or redemption, of world. Contact with Hellenism produced the Christian ideal of universal salvation, but it kept the nihilistic aspects of its original spirituality - anti-life, anti-world, anti-reality.

Hellenes sampled from cultures around the Mediterranean basin, adapting them into their own spirit of openness and Indo-European traditions.

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Yet, the unwise contradict her, and call themselves wise, or do not listen and call themselves aware.
Are you going to agree with nature, or are you expecting her to agree with you?
Nature speaks but Moderns are humming an internal song, and do not heed.
Nature speaks clearly, openly, directly, but Moderns sing louder their own tune, annulling her, burying her voice in their noise.
They prefer their internal voice....singing to themselves a wonderful, soothing, flattering lullaby.

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Proper definition of words is not only to adhere to the dictionary conventions of a language, and it certainty does not mean to define a word is whatever manner I prefer....it means connecting the word to an apparent phenomena all can perceive.
It is not an arbitrary, subjective, definition based no socioeconomic power... it is the connection of the symbol/word to the real world interactivity, so that when I say 'dog' and another says 'chien' it does not matter that we use different words, except in that we cannot communicate our thoughts to each other,  because what matters is that both words refer to the same phenomenon, the same interactivity of patterns, the same behaviour, appearance...
We may use a different symbol/word but we cannot help, if we are honest and have integrity, but agree about the reference.
Our agreement is not accidental nor based on a power balance....it is based no our sharing the same reality, the same environment, the same world.
If one was raised to call it 'chien', and I was raised to call it 'dog'  is irrelevant, because we both refer to the same phenomenon, the same organism with specific behaviours.
Our evaluation of the dog is also not accidental. We may agree on the benefits or usefulness of a dog because of traits the dog possesses and not because we were raised in a particular way, or use different words to refer to it.
But what if a third calls the chien and dog, a cat...or some other words like 'door' and then justifies this by either claiming the cat is trapped in the body of a dog, or that 'door' can be mystically defined as the esoteric essence of a dog, using poetics to validate this mystification, like a dog pens doors into new possibilities, or opens the human heart to its unity with all organisms so 'door' is the proper name for dog?
Well, you can't reason with such imbeciles, and it is a waste of time to even try.
The first wishes he were not human, or not the human that he is, so he sues the 'cat trapped in a dog's form' as a indirect way to imply his own entrapment...and the moron who uses prose and mystical linguistics to make of the dog a profound concept,, justifying his usage of 'door' is really unable to distinguish himself in any other way but by the convolution of words and then finding gullible imbeciles to buy into his stories.
It's easier to exploit feebleness, and manipulate idiocy, than to distinguish yourself within the confines of natural order. the first is dependent on human genetic inferiority, while the latter is faced with an indifferent hard world that is not swayed by human word juggling.

Just think about how much easier it is to convince a fool that an ass is a car, to actually building a car.
About as easy as rearranging and replacing words to fool a moron that you are inventing a new philosophy, than to actually perceive something new, and offer a insight all can appreciate and share....and test for themselves.
Esoteric is a cop-out....a trick, an excuse for... "I cannot show you, but only tell you, because my truth is 'in here', or 'under there' or 'out there'".  
Renaming a chimpanzee 'Sasquatch' may convince an imbecile that you found a new species, but it will not change the truth about you and your need to do so.

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